Henry, Walker, and Gold shopped by Denver (1 Viewer)

[gianmarco]

Broncos RB Travis Henry, WR Javon Walker, and LB Ian Gold are all being shopped, but the team is up against the clock.

Henry's $6 million option bonus is due Feb. 29, Walker's $5.4 million bonus is due March 4, and Gold's $500,000 bonus is due March 3. Meanwhile, John Lynch's retirement decision should be made by March 4, when he is due a $1.12 million bonus.

Source: Denver Post

Should be interesting to see if/where these guys land. Don't see any of them moving before those bonuses are due, though.

 

[az_prof]

Can they cut them to avoid the bonuses?

 

[KoolKat]

Broncos RB Travis Henry, WR Javon Walker, and LB Ian Gold are all being shopped, but the team is up against the clock.

Henry's $6 million option bonus is due Feb. 29, Walker's $5.4 million bonus is due March 4, and Gold's $500,000 bonus is due March 3. Meanwhile, John Lynch's retirement decision should be made by March 4, when he is due a $1.12 million bonus.

Source: Denver Post

Should be interesting to see if/where these guys land. Don't see any of them moving before those bonuses are due, though.

I hope we can move all of them.

 

[Andy Herron]

Can they cut them to avoid the bonuses?

Sure can, and I'm sure they will, other than possibly Gold. If they don't get any takers, that is. Which is a stretch for Henry and Walker.

 

[Balco]

They will all be cut.

 

[Swanson]

What's all the talk about Denver bringing back Henry at a reduced rate. Do you think he renegotiates his deal lower or was that just coachspeak from Shanny. According to everyone in this post it seems that the prevailing opinion is that he is cut or moved(most likely cut).

 

[saintfool]

They will all be cut.

bingo.

 

[Swanson]

So then what's Denver's move in the backfield? Selvin Young, Andre Hall and bring in a quasi-bruiser? They need too much help on the Defensive side of the ball as well as OL/WR to make a RB a high draft pick.

 

[Brutis]

So then what's Denver's move in the backfield? Selvin Young, Andre Hall and bring in a quasi-bruiser? They need too much help on the Defensive side of the ball as well as OL/WR to make a RB a high draft pick.

This class is so deep at RB they can wait til rd2 or rd3 to get a RB to split carries with Selvin.

 

[Gottabesweet]

I'm sure Walker will be dealt for a second day draft pick.

 

[FUBAR]

So then what's Denver's move in the backfield? Selvin Young, Andre Hall and bring in a quasi-bruiser? They need too much help on the Defensive side of the ball as well as OL/WR to make a RB a high draft pick.

This class is so deep at RB they can wait til rd2 or rd3 to get a RB to split carries with Selvin.

I don't see Denver drafting a back until the 4th at the earliest, like Swanson said too many needs elsewhere.

 

[rascal]

So then what's Denver's move in the backfield? Selvin Young, Andre Hall and bring in a quasi-bruiser? They need too much help on the Defensive side of the ball as well as OL/WR to make a RB a high draft pick.

This class is so deep at RB they can wait til rd2 or rd3 to get a RB to split carries with Selvin.

Try round 4 or later.

 

[Swanson]

I know I am beating a dead horse with this...but everything I see coming from Henry's mouth is that he wants to make things right in Denver even if it means coming back at a discount(meaning re-negotiating after he is cut). Does anyone see this as a possiblity or do you think Denver just wants to move on? Do you think they are comfortable heading into next season with Young, Hall and a 4th rounder or later?

 

[Mikey16x]

shanny is crazy... he never minded giving the rock to alot of no names in the past... it's actually kind of his M.O... i wouldn't be surprised one bit to see selvin being the #1...

i.e... orlando gary? i think... tatum bell, droughns, mike bell. Not only that, if your a veteran fantasy football player relying on shanny one thing is certain.. "one thing is for sure, your never going to be sure"

 

[LordOpie]

I just hope they learned their lesson with Henry.

Next time, do at least a little bit of a background check and if the guy is great, but lacks character... don't sign him.

 

[Routilla]

I wouldn't give anything for any of them.

 

[simmonjm]

I'm sure Walker will be dealt for a second day draft pick.

With his injury history and upcoming roster bonus im not so sure he will be traded. At this point im not even sure he could pass a physical.

 

[Balco]

The last thing the Broncos need to focus on is running back. They finished ranked 9th in the NFL in that category. Out of their top trio of backs, Travis Henry averaged the lowest yards per rush (4.1).

They need to look at O Line and another receiver if they are going to focus on Offense. Its that front seven on D that needs the most attention.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

They will all be cut.

bingo.

concur.

 

[SSOG]

I just hope they learned their lesson with Carter Gardner Clarett Henry.

Next time, do at least a little bit of a background check and if the guy is great, but lacks character... don't sign him.

Fixed. Of course, I disagree with the main point- do you think the Patriots wish they'd steered clear of Moss or Dillon because of character concerns? And if the Broncos were trying to rid themselves of character concerns, Brandon Marshall would be the first guy out of town.Nobody minds character risks when they work out, but everyone's up in arms when they don't. There's a reason why they're called character risks.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

I just hope they learned their lesson with Carter Gardner Clarett Henry.

Next time, do at least a little bit of a background check and if the guy is great, but lacks character... don't sign him.

Fixed. Of course, I disagree with the main point- do you think the Patriots wish they'd steered clear of Moss or Dillon because of character concerns? And if the Broncos were trying to rid themselves of character concerns, Brandon Marshall would be the first guy out of town.Nobody minds character risks when they work out, but everyone's up in arms when they don't. There's a reason why they're called character risks.

I see what you're saying, but I don't think that's an apt comparison. I actually give the Patriots a lot of credit for going against conventional wisdom on these two players who were perceived as having huge character concerns whereas the biggest problem for both players was that they were exceptionally talented and ultra competitive players stranded with an historically inept team, coaching staff, and---most importantly---franchise management/ownership. The Bengals franchise of the Corey Dillon era and the Raiders franchise of the Randy Moss era stand out even among other rotten franchises as two of the most odious in NFL history. True monuments to bumbling ineptitude, lack of vision, backwards thinking, and general incompetence. The Patriots correctly identified two proud players who would play their hearts out just for the chance to participate on a real NFL team again.

 

[SSOG]

I just hope they learned their lesson with Carter Gardner Clarett Henry.

Next time, do at least a little bit of a background check and if the guy is great, but lacks character... don't sign him.

Fixed. Of course, I disagree with the main point- do you think the Patriots wish they'd steered clear of Moss or Dillon because of character concerns? And if the Broncos were trying to rid themselves of character concerns, Brandon Marshall would be the first guy out of town.Nobody minds character risks when they work out, but everyone's up in arms when they don't. There's a reason why they're called character risks.

I see what you're saying, but I don't think that's an apt comparison. I actually give the Patriots a lot of credit for going against conventional wisdom on these two players who were perceived as having huge character concerns whereas the biggest problem for both players was that they were exceptionally talented and ultra competitive players stranded with an historically inept team, coaching staff, and---most importantly---franchise management/ownership. The Bengals franchise of the Corey Dillon era and the Raiders franchise of the Randy Moss era stand out even among other rotten franchises as two of the most odious in NFL history. True monuments to bumbling ineptitude, lack of vision, backwards thinking, and general incompetence. The Patriots correctly identified two proud players who would play their hearts out just for the chance to participate on a real NFL team again.

So Randy Moss driving over a traffic cop, leaving the field while the game was going on, and saying he only played when he wanted to play- all before he ever donned the silver and black, mind you- don't count as character concerns?*A* problem with Randy Moss was that he was disgruntled while on a historically inept franchise. Another problem was that he liked smoking marijuana, committing vehicular assault, and completely ignoring his teammates in his own quest for the most personal glory with the least effort possible. You could wipe his Oakland years completely off the books and he'd still have character concerns that arguably dwarfed those even of Maurice Clarett (who, like Moss, was lazy, played when he wanted to play, and always wanted everything the easiest way possible, but without anywhere near as much criminal stigma, at least at the time the Broncos drafted him). The difference, of course, is that Moss is an all-timer in spite of his character flaws, while Clarett couldn't even make the practice squad.

If you'd prefer a different analogy, though, there's always Terrell Owens to the Cowboys, or Cris Carter to the Vikings, or the Chargers drafting Luis Castillo in the 1st after he tested positive for steroids, or dozens of other success stories of people taking a chance on a guy with character concerns and being rewarded for it. There are stories of failures, too, which is why players with character concerns come with a significant discount.

 

[H.K.]

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Report: Bucs considering trade for J. Walker

The Bucs and Broncos are in trade discussions involving Javon Walker, according to the St. Petersburg Times.

The sides have done business in the past, but it'd be a surprise if a deal actually happens. Walker is almost certain to be cut before his $5.4 million option bonus comes due March 4. If healthy, he'd be an excellent fit in Jon Gruden's West Coast attack, but his balky knee makes Walker a huge risk. Feb. 21 - 6:53 pm et

 

[BusMan]

1. Henry just resigned for less money so the RB situation in Denver appears to be relatively set going into 2008. I'd guess they don't draft a RB, but if they do, it'll be late. They've had great success finding viable college free agent RBs the past two years, so I can envision them going that same route this year.

2. The Walker to TB trade discussion is interesting. The Broncos definitely have a need for a WR if Walker is gone, as they'd likely want someone who could push Stokley to his natural slot position. I can see taking a WR earlier in the draft because I'm not sure what kind of quality there is in FA. Wouldn't it be crazy if the Broncos tried to pry Moss out of NE though?

3. I don't really see why Gold is considered too expensive, although I know he had a down year last year. He's a fast LB who I expect will have increased production in Slowik's scheme. He should rebound nicely now that he won't have to be responsible for outside run contain. He was always better using his speed to fly to the ball, and he's actually not a liability in pass coverage. If Slowik runs a lot of zone blitz as expected, Gold's speed with be an asset in rushing the passer.

Should be an interesting couple of weeks for the Broncos.