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HOF - Curtis Martin IN.... Bill Parcells OUT (1 Viewer)

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Cris Carter out again? But Curtis Martin IN? What ####### joke the Pro Football HOF is.

 
Still can't believe Carter didn't make it again. The HOF is more of a museum of football history than a place for all time greats.

 
Glad to see Tez finally got the nod. He was the bright spot of the 90's for a mediocre Seahawks team. After his rookie year he dominated for a decade starting 151 of 160 games. Tough guy with a never ending motor. Loved watching that guy play.

/homer

 
I guess I am supposed to trust that a group that does not rubber stamp Parcells, with his 2 Superbowl wins and his former asst. with 6 Superbowl wins, understands the game to game impact of an OL over guys who just catch bunches passes and score lots of TDs.

 
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I'm fine with Martin getting in, but there's no way this class deserved it more than Carter. This is getting ridiculous.

 
Moderators are in a bitter mood tonight. Probably the Eagle fan, Wood. Anyway, good that Carter and Bettis aren't further diluting the HOF. Perhaps an unpopular sentiment among some, but seriously, the mediocrity in that building has swelled. No reason to make the institution even more meaningless with compilers.

 
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'Ministry of Pain said:
'Tony Jabroni said:
Cris Carter is well deserving of the HOF.
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Did he ever have a reception that propelled the Vikings into the Super Bowl? Next round of the playoffs? Playoffs? He caught a lot of balls, I am not anti-Carter getting into the HoF but I'm also OK making him wait a little while too.
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lol @ Vikings & Super Bowl... ;) As a Packer homer, I watched this guy work his magic for numerous years. I'm a fan. :shrug:
 
'coolnerd said:
I guess I am supposed to trust that a group that does not rubber stamp Parcells, with his 2 Superbowl wins and his former asst. with 6 Superbowl wins, understands the game to game impact of an OL over guys who just catch bunches passes and score lots of TDs.
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If you're suggesting that Dawson and Roaf aren't deserving you are way off base. Dawson should have been first ballot.
 
'PlasmaDogPlasma said:
'coolnerd said:
I guess I am supposed to trust that a group that does not rubber stamp Parcells, with his 2 Superbowl wins and his former asst. with 6 Superbowl wins, understands the game to game impact of an OL over guys who just catch bunches passes and score lots of TDs.
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If you're suggesting that Dawson and Roaf aren't deserving you are way off base. Dawson should have been first ballot.
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Sugesting that neither should go in over Parcells or Chris Carter...Honestly, I would place either over Curtis Martin... a long time good to very good, not ever considered at the level at his job that Parcells, Carter, Dawson or Roaf was at his. Too much which writer can present the best case in the process.
 
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Cortez Kennedy??? Yes, he had a great career, and yes he should definitely be in the HOF but I have a real problem putting him in ahead of Carter or Parcells.

I feel pretty much the same way about Martin.

 
There is no way you can convince me that these writers don't hold grudges against players that weren't media friendly.

No way that Curtis Martin deserves to go in before Chris Carter and his 130TD's.

Same goes for Doleman (who I think deserves it), but Charles Haley and his 5 rings should enjoy induction first.

 
'Tony Jabroni said:
'Ministry of Pain said:
'Tony Jabroni said:
Cris Carter is well deserving of the HOF.
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Did he ever have a reception that propelled the Vikings into the Super Bowl? Next round of the playoffs? Playoffs? He caught a lot of balls, I am not anti-Carter getting into the HoF but I'm also OK making him wait a little while too.
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lol @ Vikings & Super Bowl... ;) As a Packer homer, I watched this guy work his magic for numerous years. I'm a fan. :shrug:
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:goodposting:
 
'coolnerd said:
Sugesting that neither should go in over Parcells or Chris Carter...Honestly, I would place either over Curtis Martin... a long time good to very good, not ever considered at the level at his job that Parcells, Carter, Dawson or Roaf was at his.
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I think Martin was considered at least as strong relative to his peers as Carter was. Carter never finished in the top 5 in receiving yards in a year, and while he did finish #1 in TDs three times, "all he does is catch touchdowns" is a bit of a joke but also indicates areas where his game wasn't really as good as his peers. He does deserve to be in the Hall, but not any more than Martin does (except that Carter's been passed over a few times already).
 
If someone makes a thread asking of a player is a HOF worthy candidate, my answer is automatically yes. We are now giving out participation trophies for ####### football HOF.

 
'Hedgehog said:
congrats to Curtis Martin - 1st Jet HOF inductee for a long time....possibly since Namath?
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Two undistinguished, undeserving jet representatives. Namath more so than Martin. At least one can make an argument about Martin's qualifications, weak as they might be, with a straight face.
 
'cobalt_27 said:
'Hedgehog said:
congrats to Curtis Martin - 1st Jet HOF inductee for a long time....possibly since Namath?
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Two undistinguished, undeserving jet representatives. Namath more so than Martin. At least one can make an argument about Martin's qualifications, weak as they might be, with a straight face.
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That's hilarious. I mean, not just your argument, but that your avatar is the Breakers. That's some great stuff. Maybe next time I'm being dragged somewhere in chains, I'll be able to catch a game.
 
Parcels and cc are both part of the media, they have rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

The HOF is more political then achievement based. Not surprised at all by the parcels and cc snubs.

 
'cobalt_27 said:
Moderators are in a bitter mood tonight. Probably the Eagle fan, Wood. Anyway, good that Carter and Bettis aren't further diluting the HOF. Perhaps an unpopular sentiment among some, but seriously, the mediocrity in that building has swelled. No reason to make the institution even more meaningless with compilers.
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:goodposting:
 
Absolutely watering it down with compilers. He should have been hurt more or quit before he became the 4th all-time leading rusher, because what's really important in football and other sports is fleeting greatness and injuries.

 
'rockaction said:
Absolutely watering it down with compilers. He should have been hurt more or quit before he became the 4th all-time leading rusher, because what's really important in football and other sports is fleeting greatness and injuries.
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Any Jet fan ever feel like we had a hall of fame rushing attack with Martin? I know I never did. To be honest, in his prime, Freeman McNeil was a better running back. I get that he's the 4th all time leading rusher. He was good, and I was happy he was on the Jets, but I never thought I was watching an all-time great when he was playing.
 
'rockaction said:
Absolutely watering it down with compilers. He should have been hurt more or quit before he became the 4th all-time leading rusher, because what's really important in football and other sports is fleeting greatness and injuries.
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So sustained good-ness and a lucky roll of the dice where injuries are concerned is all it takes now? Other than being a Steeler who was on a SB winning team, of course.I'll pass on both thanks. The Hall should be reserved for great players IMO.
 
Staying injury-free as a running back is total luck and has nothing to do with strength, balance, work ethic, and controlled and functional movements. Surely, it is just like rolling the dice to stay injury-free for over ten years, including leading the league in yards and success rate in your tenth year. Ask the guys who dump thousands of dollars a year in the off-season at training facilities, run with weight vests, do one-legged squats, flip tires, stabilize their knees, keep their ankles and hips flexible, eat properly, get good rest, etc.

I love this.

Hank Aaron, compiler of home runs and lucky in his longevity.

 
'rockaction said:
Staying injury-free as a running back is total luck and has nothing to do with strength, balance, work ethic, and controlled and functional movements. Surely, it is just like rolling the dice to stay injury-free for over ten years, including leading the league in yards and success rate in your tenth year. Ask the guys who dump thousands of dollars a year in the off-season at training facilities, run with weight vests, do one-legged squats, flip tires, stabilize their knees, keep their ankles and hips flexible, eat properly, get good rest, etc. I love this. Hank Aaron, compiler of home runs and lucky in his longevity.
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Seriously? You just compared Curtis Martin to Hank Aaron. That's phenomenal.
 
'cobalt_27 said:
'rockaction said:
Staying injury-free as a running back is total luck and has nothing to do with strength, balance, work ethic, and controlled and functional movements. Surely, it is just like rolling the dice to stay injury-free for over ten years, including leading the league in yards and success rate in your tenth year. Ask the guys who dump thousands of dollars a year in the off-season at training facilities, run with weight vests, do one-legged squats, flip tires, stabilize their knees, keep their ankles and hips flexible, eat properly, get good rest, etc. I love this. Hank Aaron, compiler of home runs and lucky in his longevity.
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Seriously? You just compared Curtis Martin to Hank Aaron. That's phenomenal.
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That's a whole 'nother level of dumb than we usually see here. Curtis Martin. Hank Aaron. Same guy.
 
'wdcrob said:
'rockaction said:
Absolutely watering it down with compilers. He should have been hurt more or quit before he became the 4th all-time leading rusher, because what's really important in football and other sports is fleeting greatness and injuries.
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So sustained good-ness and a lucky roll of the dice where injuries are concerned is all it takes now? Other than being a Steeler who was on a SB winning team, of course.I'll pass on both thanks. The Hall should be reserved for great players IMO.
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I think next year they're going to be putting in Myron Cope.
 
'cobalt_27 said:
'rockaction said:
Staying injury-free as a running back is total luck and has nothing to do with strength, balance, work ethic, and controlled and functional movements. Surely, it is just like rolling the dice to stay injury-free for over ten years, including leading the league in yards and success rate in your tenth year. Ask the guys who dump thousands of dollars a year in the off-season at training facilities, run with weight vests, do one-legged squats, flip tires, stabilize their knees, keep their ankles and hips flexible, eat properly, get good rest, etc. I love this. Hank Aaron, compiler of home runs and lucky in his longevity.
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Seriously? You just compared Curtis Martin to Hank Aaron. That's phenomenal.
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Hank Aaron hit 755 home runs, never hitting over 44. He played for twenty-two years. He never had an on-base percentage of over .403. He won one MVP and three gold gloves. If you can't see how your argument is similar, you're phenomenal.
 
'ConstruxBoy said:
'cobalt_27 said:
'rockaction said:
Staying injury-free as a running back is total luck and has nothing to do with strength, balance, work ethic, and controlled and functional movements. Surely, it is just like rolling the dice to stay injury-free for over ten years, including leading the league in yards and success rate in your tenth year. Ask the guys who dump thousands of dollars a year in the off-season at training facilities, run with weight vests, do one-legged squats, flip tires, stabilize their knees, keep their ankles and hips flexible, eat properly, get good rest, etc. I love this. Hank Aaron, compiler of home runs and lucky in his longevity.
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Seriously? You just compared Curtis Martin to Hank Aaron. That's phenomenal.
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That's a whole 'nother level of dumb than we usually see here. Curtis Martin. Hank Aaron. Same guy.
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Like I said, if you can't see how your argument is similar in the breakdown, then go ahead. Compiler. What's your argument?
 
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