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ICON211

ICON211

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In one of the league's I play in we have a "home field advantage" rule. There are two divisions and the rule states that each division winner gets a points advantage over their opponent in the playoffs. The division winners receive 3 points plus 1 1/2 points for each win they have more than their opponent. I led the league in points this year, but only had 7 wins and my opponent had 11 so he received a 9 point "home field advantage." I outscored him by 4 but he advanced to our title game based on the extra points added to his score. I think this is the stupidest rule of all time and have been complaining about it since the league's inception, but there are some other people in the league that think it is fair and valid. Am I crazy or is this a good rule?

 
ICON211 said:
In one of the league's I play in we have a "home field advantage" rule. There are two divisions and the rule states that each division winner gets a points advantage over their opponent in the playoffs. The division winners receive 3 points plus 1 1/2 points for each win they have more than their opponent. I led the league in points this year, but only had 7 wins and my opponent had 11 so he received a 9 point "home field advantage." I outscored him by 4 but he advanced to our title game based on the extra points added to his score. I think this is the stupidest rule of all time and have been complaining about it since the league's inception, but there are some other people in the league that think it is fair and valid. Am I crazy or is this a good rule?
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This rule would never fly in any of my leagues.
 
You joined the league. You should have known the rules. This is the worst time to claim ignorance. You had all year to know and complain about it. The fact that you are doing it only after you clearly lost based on the rules just makes you a :confused:

 
buymeagoat said:
You joined the league. You should have known the rules. This is the worst time to claim ignorance. You had all year to know and complain about it. The fact that you are doing it only after you clearly lost based on the rules just makes you a :cry:
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Not claiming ignorance the league has been in existence for a number of years and I have known what the rule is and always thought it was garbage and wanted to know what other people thought about it.
 
I like the rule. It is a clever way to give a team a home field advantage in a situation where it could not otherwise exist. You stated that you won by four while that simply isn't true. He won by 5 based on how the league works. I doubt you'd be here complaining if you would have won. There's nothing wrong with this rule. It is just like every other rule...it just is. If you don't personally like it, leave.

 
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I think the rule is fine. In a H2H league, the goal is to get wins, not points. Rewarding teams for extra wins makes some sense and the fact that you scored more points has nothing to do with it IMO.

 
I think it is a horrible rule and would never play in a league like that.

Why are you playing in a league that you don't like the rules?

 
One of my leagues used to do +3 for home field, but we did it all season and everyone had the same number of home games. This was voted out about 10 years ago. I kind of liked it, but the idea of 1.5 points based upon record difference sounds crazy.

 
cheese said:
I think the rule is fine. In a H2H league, the goal is to get wins, not points. Rewarding teams for extra wins makes some sense and the fact that you scored more points has nothing to do with it IMO.
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In this particular league the division winner gets these points and they accrue based on the # of wins over the wild card opponent. The problem is the league is too small (8 teams) to have by weeks. If they did than 6 of the 8 teams would make the playoffs. That would diminish the value of making the playoffs. There needs to be some incentive for winning the division, otherwise, what's the point of having 2 divisions. I don't like the points. Too arbitrary. Worse than bonus points. Players should get what they earn. The rule has remained in place due to majority. As bad as it as they feel it's better to have something than nothing. This is the first time in this leagues history where the points effected the outcome. They need a better solution.
 
I like it.

We all play H2H rather than total points and use kickers rather than just ignoring them because we're simulating real football setups. In real football playoff seedings matter more than just in terms of who you play, because we clearly see teams battling for home field. Having a little "home field advantage" in FF sounds fun to me and is something I'm going to bring up this offseason in my league (though it will likely get shot down).

I do think that the number of points being awarded in this case are a bit excessive (I would say a flat 3 points for "home field" sounds about right), but the spirit of the rule is cool.

 
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Point of information...

In this league we avg 170+ ppg- so our HFA at its's highest is really only less than 5% of the total avg score..

 
I led my league in points one year and didn't even make the playoffs! The commish said something about the "rules" and about it being a "head to head" league. Whatever that means! What a stupid rule! I clearly had the best team but the "rules" totally messed up my season!

Then in this other league, I was STACKED at QB. I had Brees, Manning and Rodgers but that commish screwed me too! Something about only starting 1QB a week. Total BS. My team was awesome!

 
There is no home field advantage in FF - it's a BYE advantage. Having one week off to prevent the upset.

I don;t care for this idea - which is attempting to make a home field advantage - but I'm not dead set against it either.

 
Our league has 1 point home field advantage. It pretty much gives the tie to the home team...it only mattered once all season.

 
FavreCo said:
'Home field advantage' in FF. :goodposting: Dumbest rule ever.
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Not really. If you subscribe to H2H format (randomness at its best), which most people prefer, what is wrong with the concept of home field? In real football, home field advantage is a factor. Why not in fantasy?The thing I really like about it is that it makes the regular season a little more important. Have a great regular season, have a little bigger edge in the post season. Nothing insurmountable but an edge.
 
Mjolnirs said:
One of my leagues used to do +3 for home field, but we did it all season and everyone had the same number of home games. This was voted out about 10 years ago. I kind of liked it, but the idea of 1.5 points based upon record difference sounds crazy.
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Why "crazy"? If a 12-1 team were matched against a 7-6 team (pretty extreme delta), you would be talking a 7.5 point advantage. Again, keep in mind, this advantage is earned during the season.
 
We use HFA advantage in my long running league (14 years), but just in the playoffs.

A tie in the regular season is just a tie, but in the playoffs, a tie counts as a win for the higher seeded team, thus being their "HFA" in the playoffs.

It has never had to be used in our league's history, the closest being this year where I lost in the conference championship by 1 pt, but still would have lost had the game been tied because the team I played was a higher seed.

 
Perhaps they can institute a way to give points to the team that has the highest point total as well. That would make all parties happy. I do kind of like it. It takes the luck out of the game a little.

 
DropKick said:
FavreCo said:
'Home field advantage' in FF. :hot: Dumbest rule ever.
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Not really. If you subscribe to H2H format (randomness at its best), which most people prefer, what is wrong with the concept of home field? In real football, home field advantage is a factor. Why not in fantasy?The thing I really like about it is that it makes the regular season a little more important. Have a great regular season, have a little bigger edge in the post season. Nothing insurmountable but an edge.
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No it's the dumbest rule ever. Do you set up speakers and pipe in crowd noise into your living room when you watch the games and your opponent's players have the ball? :lmao: You should.
 
I'm in a long-running league with a crazy HFA rule. In the playoffs, the higher-seeded team is awarded 5 points for every game they finish ahead of their opponent in the regular season. It's designed to reward teams who had great regular seasons, but sometimes a 1 seed could have as much as a 15-20 advantage in a playoff game. I always thought that was way too arbitrary and unfairly valued schedule luck, but I can never get a majority a votes to change the rule.

Anyway we just had our championship game and I faced a 10 point HFA deficit going in (I was 8-6 vs a 10-4 opponent). I overcame the 10 points and won anyway, first time in 6 years the #1 seed didn't win the title. Talk about a sweet, sweet victory.

 
DropKick said:
FavreCo said:
'Home field advantage' in FF. :lmao: Dumbest rule ever.
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Not really. If you subscribe to H2H format (randomness at its best), which most people prefer, what is wrong with the concept of home field? In real football, home field advantage is a factor. Why not in fantasy?The thing I really like about it is that it makes the regular season a little more important. Have a great regular season, have a little bigger edge in the post season. Nothing insurmountable but an edge.
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In theory it might sound kind of cool to have a hfa in fantasy, but in practice it is awful. I know it sounds like I am crying about it, but in my siituation this year I led the league in points then scored the most points of all the teams in the playoffs and my team was eliminated. Just bad.
 
ICON211 said:
In one of the league's I play in we have a "home field advantage" rule. There are two divisions and the rule states that each division winner gets a points advantage over their opponent in the playoffs. The division winners receive 3 points plus 1 1/2 points for each win they have more than their opponent. I led the league in points this year, but only had 7 wins and my opponent had 11 so he received a 9 point "home field advantage." I outscored him by 4 but he advanced to our title game based on the extra points added to his score. I think this is the stupidest rule of all time and have been complaining about it since the league's inception, but there are some other people in the league that think it is fair and valid. Am I crazy or is this a good rule?
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we also use decimals for scoring system, to make it even harder to tie.. so for playoffs, we changed to the following:if you're tied in a playoff game, you use your entire reserve roster ( players you've benched) to determine outcome..selecting one player wasn't fair,so we just said use your entire backup roster..everyone's cool with that because it means you've still got a fighting chance that your backups are worth more than you opponents..but using decimals has greatly cut down on ties in our league..its better than a generous point being awarded to decide a playoff winner..
 
FavreCo said:
DropKick said:
FavreCo said:
'Home field advantage' in FF. :cry: Dumbest rule ever.
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Not really. If you subscribe to H2H format (randomness at its best), which most people prefer, what is wrong with the concept of home field? In real football, home field advantage is a factor. Why not in fantasy?The thing I really like about it is that it makes the regular season a little more important. Have a great regular season, have a little bigger edge in the post season. Nothing insurmountable but an edge.
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No it's the dumbest rule ever. Do you set up speakers and pipe in crowd noise into your living room when you watch the games and your opponent's players have the ball? :lmao: You should.
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Wait, don't you have pep talks to your players before the game and at half time or am I the only one? :football:
 
DropKick said:
FavreCo said:
'Home field advantage' in FF. :wub: Dumbest rule ever.
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Not really. If you subscribe to H2H format (randomness at its best), which most people prefer, what is wrong with the concept of home field? In real football, home field advantage is a factor. Why not in fantasy?The thing I really like about it is that it makes the regular season a little more important. Have a great regular season, have a little bigger edge in the post season. Nothing insurmountable but an edge.
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:thumbup:
 
Petition to have the rule changed in the offseason.

If the rule continuously is left in place then the ball is in your court.

Leave or stop gripping about it.

The only thing that is worse about having a rule in place you consider dumb is constantly #####in about it.

Also,

I love reading grown men criticizing other leagues dumb rules.

Good thing it's only those owners who play in those dumb leagues filled with imaginary teams, making imaginary football decisions :rolleyes:

 
ICON211 said:
In one of the league's I play in we have a "home field advantage" rule. There are two divisions and the rule states that each division winner gets a points advantage over their opponent in the playoffs. The division winners receive 3 points plus 1 1/2 points for each win they have more than their opponent. I led the league in points this year, but only had 7 wins and my opponent had 11 so he received a 9 point "home field advantage." I outscored him by 4 but he advanced to our title game based on the extra points added to his score. I think this is the stupidest rule of all time and have been complaining about it since the league's inception, but there are some other people in the league that think it is fair and valid. Am I crazy or is this a good rule?
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Seems good enough to me. Its the rule of the league, in force year in and year out. All other things being equal, the existence of such a rule would not prevent me from joining a league that had this rule in place.The rule is part of your league's scoring system.

Under your league's scoring system, your opponent's team scored more than your team did.

Because his steam scored more points than yours, he won.

I outscored him by 4 but he advanced to our title game based on the extra points added to his score.

The logic underpinning that sentence could be used to criticize any scoring rule.

I outscored him by 6 but he advanced to our title game based on the extra points added to his score because we don't penalize QBs for interceptions, unlike real leagues.

Am I crazy or is this a good rule?

If there is no option for neither, I'm leaning toward your being crazy here.

 
Hate the rule. In the league I used to run the only thing "home field" got you was the tiebreaker. I have another league where the home team gets 2 points, which is a reasonable advantage to those teams who dominated enough to get one of the top seeds. Giving 9 or 10 extra points is just nuts.

But as others have said, it appears others are in favor of the league, so you'll have a decision to make on whether or not it bothers you enough to quit. I have a league that has a week 17 championship, which I absolutely hate, but the league is such a blast otherwise, that I live with it.

 
I like that rule ... seems like a good way to give the team that performed better throughout the season a small edge, but one that can be pretty easily be overcome

 
ICON211 said:
DropKick said:
FavreCo said:
'Home field advantage' in FF. :goodposting: Dumbest rule ever.
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Not really. If you subscribe to H2H format (randomness at its best), which most people prefer, what is wrong with the concept of home field? In real football, home field advantage is a factor. Why not in fantasy?The thing I really like about it is that it makes the regular season a little more important. Have a great regular season, have a little bigger edge in the post season. Nothing insurmountable but an edge.
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In theory it might sound kind of cool to have a hfa in fantasy, but in practice it is awful. I know it sounds like I am crying about it, but in my siituation this year I led the league in points then scored the most points of all the teams in the playoffs and my team was eliminated. Just bad.
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You keep going back to how you scored the most points in the regular season. That really means close to nothing in a head to head league. Your reg season is summed up by your 7 wins, not by your points.
 
Not opposed to home field advantage but don't like that rule for home field advantage. I think for home field advantage, some leagues allow the higher seeds to pick who they play that week rather than arbitrarily matching up the no.1 and no.4 seed when the no.4 seed could be a better team than the no.3 seed. That seems like a reasonable advantage to me. When you factor in points, I think it gets a little fuzzy because how exactly do you determine what home field advantage amounts to in points? Whatever you decide would be flawed.

 
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I like the rule to a point. The problem with awarding an advantage based on record is simply that you are rewarding a team for getting lucky enough to have the schedule line up in their favor. No skill is involved in determining how many points are scored against you. I would like the home field advantage more if it were awarded to the team with more total points. This way you would still have the "randomness" of the H2H schedule but even out the luck factor by giving a slight advantage to the team that actually did something to earn it. Either way, I like the rule. It adds a little fun to the game.

 
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RBM said:
ICON211 said:
DropKick said:
FavreCo said:
'Home field advantage' in FF. :goodposting: Dumbest rule ever.
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Not really. If you subscribe to H2H format (randomness at its best), which most people prefer, what is wrong with the concept of home field? In real football, home field advantage is a factor. Why not in fantasy?The thing I really like about it is that it makes the regular season a little more important. Have a great regular season, have a little bigger edge in the post season. Nothing insurmountable but an edge.
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In theory it might sound kind of cool to have a hfa in fantasy, but in practice it is awful. I know it sounds like I am crying about it, but in my siituation this year I led the league in points then scored the most points of all the teams in the playoffs and my team was eliminated. Just bad.
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You keep going back to how you scored the most points in the regular season. That really means close to nothing in a head to head league. Your reg season is summed up by your 7 wins, not by your points.
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I think there is enough luck in the regular season as far as scheduling that once the playoffs start everyone should be on equal footing.
 
A simple rule in a h2h league I'm in, which I like, is that ties go to the home team. Rarely happens, but a small way to reward the more successful/deserving squad coming in. Also a way to have an ever so-slight advantage for home teams. And finally, to get rid of ties.

Well, it happened twice this season. One guy freaked, even though the rule has been there forever.

Funny, when people all of a sudden think something isn't fair because it didn't go there way. Good stuff. :goodposting:

 
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