HOU RB Tate injures ankle. Carted off field (1 Viewer)

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Texans RB Tate hurts right knee

Ben Tate, RB HOU

News: Texans RB Ben Tate hurt his right knee on his second carry of the game at Arizona on Saturday night. Tate took a handoff to the left side and actually looked strong in picking up 12 yards when Cardinals LB Daryl Washington took him down by his right leg and his knee was driven into the turf. Tate writhed in pain while being attended to by trainers before getting helped to the sideline without putting weight on his leg. Minutes later he was carted from the sideline to the locker room with his right leg undressed and a trainer putting pressure on his right knee. Tate finished with 7 yards on two carries plus a 5-yard catch.

Analysis: Initial speculation is that the injury is serious for Tate based on the play and his subsequent carting. A season-ending injury would devastate the Texans, though they are prepared with Arian Foster and Steve Slaton proving to be capable options (Foster started and Slaton saw significant playing time). We'll keep you posted on the latest with Tate, who was considered a No. 3 RB in seasonal leagues worthy of a pick around Round 6 or 7.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

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Starting RB Foster looking the part

Arian Foster, RB HOU

News: Texans RB Arian Foster got the preseason start on Saturday at the Cardinals and looked the part of a first-team running back. He had 31 yards on four carries including a smooth 21-yard run down the left half of the field on his first carry. His other three touches didn't produce many yards but did prove that he's a good fit for the Texans' cut-and-go run game as he showed no hesitation with any of his runs.

Analysis: Combine Foster's good-looking outing with suspect play by Steve Slaton (22 yards on 10 carries with a fumble lost) and a potentially serious knee injury to rookie RB Ben Tate, and there's a real chance that the Texans could give Foster the starting job by the start of the season. That could lead to some pretty decent stats -- he finished last year with 216 rush yards, two rushing touchdowns and 93 receiving yards in games against the Dolphins and Patriots. We're inching him up our rank lists and would consider him a borderline No. 3 Fantasy RB if Tate's injury keeps him out for a while. The days of Foster being a late-round flier just might be behind us.

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[cr8f]

Tried trading Foster to Tate owner for Rennie Curran with no success 2 weeks ago.

Last year the team loved Foster.

 

[pantherclub]

Tried trading Foster to Tate owner for Rennie Curran with no success 2 weeks ago.

Good stuff here

 

[nysportsfan]

Anyone see the play? It's usually not an ACL when you fall on the knee, but that doesn't mean it's not serious. Just curious if it was a twist or a bruise-type injury, the latter seems likely from the description. Foster could be a big pickup.

 

[cr8f]

Anyone see the play? It's usually not an ACL when you fall on the knee, but that doesn't mean it's not serious. Just curious if it was a twist or a bruise-type injury, the latter seems likely from the description. Foster could be a big pickup.

No but this is from CBSTexans RB Tate hurts right knee: Texans RB Ben Tate hurt his right knee on his second carry of the game at Arizona on Saturday night. Tate took a handoff to the left side and actually looked strong in picking up 12 yards when Cardinals LB Daryl Washington took him down by his right leg and his knee was driven into the turf. Tate writhed in pain while being attended to by trainers before getting helped to the sideline without putting weight on his leg. Minutes later he was carted from the sideline to the locker room with his right leg undressed and a trainer putting pressure on his right knee. Tate finished with 7 yards on two carries plus a 5-yard catch. (Updated 08/14/2010).

 

[kutta]

I saw the play but they didn't really show any replays to get a better look. It looked like a typical tackle with a hard hit to the legs, but again, I only saw it live and no replays. Tate did look HUGE though. I'm not sure how big he is, but he looked like a big boy out there.

And poor Steve Slaton. He fumbled on the goal line. Again. It didn't even look like much of a hit - he ran into the pile and the ball just popped out. That can't be good for him.

 

[RalphMouth]

Move Foster up the draft board and I also think Schaub should be moved up a bit as well. Houston will be passing a lot this season.

 

[Mimo]

According to Jerome Solomon (Chron writer) via Twitter a source says the Tate injury "Does not look good and could be major"

 

[sportsphysio]

Anyone see the play? It's usually not an ACL when you fall on the knee, but that doesn't mean it's not serious. Just curious if it was a twist or a bruise-type injury, the latter seems likely from the description. Foster could be a big pickup.

I haven't seen the play; did he land straight down on his knee while it was bent? If so, this is the typical mechanism for a PCL tear (the ligament behind the ACL).

 

[coolnerd]

Everything I am hearing from HOUSTON sources is that it is the ankle not the knee, but there are varying reports as to the seriousness.

 

[nysportsfan]

Anyone see the play? It's usually not an ACL when you fall on the knee, but that doesn't mean it's not serious. Just curious if it was a twist or a bruise-type injury, the latter seems likely from the description. Foster could be a big pickup.

I haven't seen the play; did he land straight down on his knee while it was bent? If so, this is the typical mechanism for a PCL tear (the ligament behind the ACL).

This was my thinking. Haven't seen a replay, so I can't even guess at this point.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

from CBS: A report says Texans RB Ben Tate suffered a high-ankle sprain.

 

[Fantasy_Freak]

Everything I am hearing from HOUSTON sources is that it is the ankle not the knee, but there are varying reports as to the seriousness.

CBS had the following blurb:Ben Tate, RB HOUNews: Texans RB Ben Tate has a high-ankle sprain according to post on Twitter by the sports director of KILT-AM in Houston. That actually feels like welcomed news after Tate was carted off the field Saturday night at Arizona. On his second carry of the game, Tate took a handoff to the left side and actually looked strong in picking up 12 yards when Cardinals LB Daryl Washington took him down by his right leg and his knee was driven into the turf. Tate writhed in pain while being attended to by trainers before getting helped to the sideline without putting weight on his leg. Minutes later he was carted from the sideline to the locker room with his right leg undressed and a trainer holding down his right knee. Tate finished with 7 yards on two carries plus a 5-yard catch.

 

[nysportsfan]

Not great news, but better than ACL. HAS can really take time to recover, simply look at Turner last year.

 

[delusional]

time to find the sharpie and draw a line

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

ruh roh:

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I think RB Ben Tate, the second-round pick from Auburn, is done for the year because of a broken ankle. We'll find out Sunday.

 

[jamil]

These guesses are all over the place. Guess we'll have to just wait on some official news.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38710384/ns/...ts-player_news/

The Houston Chronicle's John McClain believes the ankle injury suffered by RB Ben Tate in Saturday's preseason opener could be season-ending.

McClain is hearing that Tate's ankle is broken. The Chronicle's columnist Jerome Solomon also cites a source close to Tate as saying the injury "does not look good and could be major." The Texans are expected to have an announcement on Sunday. What seemed like a newly deep backfield suddenly looks like the Arian Foster Show after Tate's injury and Steve Slaton's fumbling issues resurfacing.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

With Slaton being an injury concern himself, and Foster being unproven, will the Texans look to add a veteran guy of some sort as insurance or do they feel comfortable with what they have going forward?

Time to bump up the Houston passing attack me thinks.

 

[GregR_2]

With Slaton being an injury concern himself, and Foster being unproven, will the Texans look to add a veteran guy of some sort as insurance or do they feel comfortable with what they have going forward?Time to bump up the Houston passing attack me thinks.

There have been reports that Chris Henry has been looking very good in camp (tonight, 2 for 6 and a 14 yard reception). There is also 2nd year RB Jeremiah Johnson, who missed last year on injured reserve with a shoulder injury but looked good tonight (5 for 33 including a 15 yard run).If Tate is out I wouldn't be surprised if the backs who make the roster are ones they already have, but I'd not be surprised if they brought in someone else for competition at least. Hard to even make an educated guess at this point though. Hearing what Kubiak thought of the RBs tonight may help.

 

[Futz]

With Slaton being an injury concern himself, and Foster being unproven, will the Texans look to add a veteran guy of some sort as insurance or do they feel comfortable with what they have going forward?Time to bump up the Houston passing attack me thinks.

I'm not sure I understand your train of thought. Foster has already been running with the first team with Tate (preinjury) already third in line for touches. Tate gets possibly severly injured and now the Texans change their offensive philosophy? The only thing it does is clarify the running back situation IMO. It simplifies things and they move forward with their plan of attack. The only thing that changes is that Foster becomes a #2 type of fantasy back.

 

[netnalp]

Texans should bring Westbrook in for a tryout, see if he has anything left.

 

[kip stabone]

Texans should bring Westbrook in for a tryout, see if he has anything left.

Thoght I saw he signed with Rams.

 

[cr8f]

With Slaton being an injury concern himself, and Foster being unproven, will the Texans look to add a veteran guy of some sort as insurance or do they feel comfortable with what they have going forward?Time to bump up the Houston passing attack me thinks.

I'm not sure I understand your train of thought. Foster has already been running with the first team with Tate (preinjury) already third in line for touches. Tate gets possibly severly injured and now the Texans change their offensive philosophy? The only thing it does is clarify the running back situation IMO. It simplifies things and they move forward with their plan of attack. The only thing that changes is that Foster becomes a #2 type of fantasy back.

The team loved Foster last last season though bringing someone in is a good idea. McClain said "I think RB Ben Tate, the second-round pick from Auburn, is done for the year because of a broken ankle. We'll find out Sunday."

 

[thekidd2009]

With Slaton being an injury concern himself, and Foster being unproven, will the Texans look to add a veteran guy of some sort as insurance or do they feel comfortable with what they have going forward?Time to bump up the Houston passing attack me thinks.

I'm not sure I understand your train of thought. Foster has already been running with the first team with Tate (preinjury) already third in line for touches. Tate gets possibly severly injured and now the Texans change their offensive philosophy? The only thing it does is clarify the running back situation IMO. It simplifies things and they move forward with their plan of attack. The only thing that changes is that Foster becomes a #2 type of fantasy back.

The team loved Foster last last season though bringing someone in is a good idea. McClain said "I think RB Ben Tate, the second-round pick from Auburn, is done for the year because of a broken ankle. We'll find out Sunday."

Assuming Tate is done for the year and Foster wins the starting job, how many touches is Foster going to get?

 

[DansRams]

With Slaton being an injury concern himself, and Foster being unproven, will the Texans look to add a veteran guy of some sort as insurance or do they feel comfortable with what they have going forward?Time to bump up the Houston passing attack me thinks.

I'm not sure I understand your train of thought. Foster has already been running with the first team with Tate (preinjury) already third in line for touches. Tate gets possibly severly injured and now the Texans change their offensive philosophy? The only thing it does is clarify the running back situation IMO. It simplifies things and they move forward with their plan of attack. The only thing that changes is that Foster becomes a #2 type of fantasy back.

The team loved Foster last last season though bringing someone in is a good idea. McClain said "I think RB Ben Tate, the second-round pick from Auburn, is done for the year because of a broken ankle. We'll find out Sunday."

Assuming Tate is done for the year and Foster wins the starting job, how many touches is Foster going to get?

Last year Houston backs had 374 carries (qb's 51 more). I would have to imagine Foster would get 250 and 30 catches this seasonThat would give him potentially 1000 yds rushing and 250 receiving + 10 tds...top 15-18 RB?

 

[Tango]

Schefter reports over Twitter an hour ago that it also may be a season ending injury and that we will find out today. This was without any attribution to John McClain (so we assume he has his own source).

And, for those few that care this much...Houstontexans.com reports that:

. Kubiak will likely provide an update on Tate's status during his 3:30 p.m. CT press conference on Sunday.

 

[KellysHeroes]

dammm. that really stinks

 

[pantherclub]

I think this moves Foster up about 3 rounds and he looks to have a solid RB#2 year in him. From antsports his adp is currently round 10. I see him now as a round 7-8 type pick. He essentially has no competition outside of Slaton.

 

[shadyridr]

I think this moves Foster up about 3 rounds and he looks to have a solid RB#2 year in him. From antsports his adp is currently round 10. I see him now as a round 7-8 type pick. He essentially has no competition outside of Slaton.

I think this moves him into the 5th at least with the other risky RB2s like Harrison, Bradshaw, etc

 

[pantherclub]

I think this moves Foster up about 3 rounds and he looks to have a solid RB#2 year in him. From antsports his adp is currently round 10. I see him now as a round 7-8 type pick. He essentially has no competition outside of Slaton.

I think this moves him into the 5th at least with the other risky RB2s like Harrison, Bradshaw, etc

If he has another game or two like last night then you are probably right. Although that would be a touch high for my taste. He would be a steal from the 7th on though.

 

[skillz]

I think this moves Foster up about 3 rounds and he looks to have a solid RB#2 year in him. From antsports his adp is currently round 10. I see him now as a round 7-8 type pick. He essentially has no competition outside of Slaton.

The box score shows Slaton lost a fumble last night too. If he has fumbilitis again, then that's even more of an opportunity for Foster to be the man.

 

[Tango]

I think we would need to assume they will sign another back if Chris Henry hadnt been impressing as he has. Fortunately for Foster fans, Westbrook and Kolby Smith are the best two out there. After the fumble last night, I think Slaton might be more worried about a Westbrook signing than Foster.

 

[Casting Couch]

Houston Texans' Running Back, Ben Tate, may be lost for the season because of a broken right ankle. Tate suffered the injury during the team's first pre-season game.The team is expected to release a report today.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

With Slaton being an injury concern himself, and Foster being unproven, will the Texans look to add a veteran guy of some sort as insurance or do they feel comfortable with what they have going forward?Time to bump up the Houston passing attack me thinks.

News of an injury to a rookie backup RB is going to affect your ranking of Matt Schaub? How is the situation different than last year? Also, "me thinks"?

 

[HAM]

I think this moves Foster up about 3 rounds and he looks to have a solid RB#2 year in him. From antsports his adp is currently round 10. I see him now as a round 7-8 type pick. He essentially has no competition outside of Slaton.

The box score shows Slaton lost a fumble last night too. If he has fumbilitis again, then that's even more of an opportunity for Foster to be the man.

It was one of them goal line fumbles too. Head down and driving, just dropped the ball

 

[fruity pebbles]

Obviously good news for Foster but still think people are writing Slaton off too early after the fumble last night. He'll be the third down back minimum and he is still dynamic in space which he showed once again last night with the 20 yard reception. Slaton averaged over 4 catches a game last season so even as a COP back and pass catching specialist he still holds a lot of value. And theres always the upside he regains his rookie running form. Fumbles werent a problem in college and his rookie year so it can be corrected. Foster is the obvious play, Slaton is for the gamblers.

 

[Houston turmOiler]

Foster looked terrific last night with the first team. He looked terrific in the last 2 games of the season last year as well. Slaton came in with the second team and didn't look very sharp. He seems to run into the back of his blockers quite a bit. He looked frustrated several times on the sidelines (our second team OTs are quite a dropoff from Winston and Brown). He looks really good and fast if he's out in space though, and he caught a short pass on a 3rd down and dusted whoever it was trying to cover him for a first down. The fumbles are killers though. It was on the goalline and he ran right up the back of one of his linemen and the ball just popped up into the endzone where Arizona recovered. I'm assuming Tate's done, and I thought Jeremiah Johnson looked like a much better runner than Chris Henry.

IMO Foster looks like a pretty darned good pick right about now. It appears Slaton is showing that he's best suited for a change of pace role, or maybe something like how the Saints use Reggie Bush. Foster's hungry and showing he's our best all around RB right now. He even blocks and catches well. I'm thinking something like Pierre Thomas but Foster's virtually guaranteed goalline touches now. He should also catch a decent amount of passes, even with Slaton around. I don't think we can trust Slaton enough to keep Foster from getting well over 200 carries the way things look right now.

 

[bluesclues]

In dynasty format - where does Ben Tate fall?

Can he be a sleeper for 2011?

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

In dynasty format - where does Ben Tate fall?Can he be a sleeper for 2011?

I think he falls far. If Foster or Slaton prove they can handle it in 2010, he'll be 3rd string.He isn't first round material like Mendenhall either.

 

[identikit]

per Rotoworld:

Texans coach Gary Kubiak confirmed Sunday that Ben Tate will need surgery on his injured ankle.

Tate insists the ankle isn't broken, but it's got to be dislocated at least. It's unclear if the Texans will place him on injured reserve. Arian Foster is even more locked in as Houston's starting tailback, and worth a mid-round pick in all fantasy drafts. The Texans may have to keep Chris Henry on the roster as a third-string runner. Tate is undraftable in re-draft leagues.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...d=5742&sn=t

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

per Rotoworld:

Texans coach Gary Kubiak confirmed Sunday that Ben Tate will need surgery on his injured ankle.

Tate insists the ankle isn't broken, but it's got to be dislocated at least. It's unclear if the Texans will place him on injured reserve. Arian Foster is even more locked in as Houston's starting tailback, and worth a mid-round pick in all fantasy drafts. The Texans may have to keep Chris Henry on the roster as a third-string runner. Tate is undraftable in re-draft leagues.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...d=5742&sn=t

oof. i've never heard of a sprain that required surgery...

 

[Tango]

I think we would need to assume they will sign another back if Chris Henry hadnt been impressing as he has. Fortunately for Foster fans, Westbrook and Kolby Smith are the best two out there. After the fumble last night, I think Slaton might be more worried about a Westbrook signing than Foster.

Quoting myself above, GK made it clear adding a new RB is a possibility:(on whether he would keep four running backs on the 53-man roster) "Yeah, that's always an option. Obviously you've got three active all the time and you usually keep four. If not, one of them may be on your practice squad. But gosh, they're all so young, so that's a big possibility that we do. There's also a possibility if we're going to lose (RB) Ben (Tate) for a period of time that we could be looking, too. We've got a long way to go. There's a lot of training camp left, preseason games left just to get to opening day and we're sitting here staring at four young backs right now, so it's kind of scary."

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Link

Texans rookie Tate to undergo ankle surgery

Running back to go on IR after injury in preseason opener

By JOHN McCLAIN Copyright 2010 Houston Chronicle

Texans rookie running back Ben Tate is expected to undergo surgery on Tuesday to repair the broken ankle he suffered in Saturday night's 19-16 preseason defeat at Arizona.

Tate, the second-round pick from Auburn, was injured at the end of a 12-yard carry when he was tackled by rookie linebacker Daryl Washington.

"It’s a very significant ankle injury and will require surgery," coach Gary Kubiak said today. "It’s very unfortunate and doesn’t look good."

Kubiak said the Texans are planning to schedule the surgery for Tuesday.

Tate, who will be placed on injured reserve, was running third team behind Arian Foster and Steve Slaton. The injury means Chris Henry and Jeremiah Johnson will move up a spot.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

The way Kubiak is talking, is there a chance Tate never has an NFL career?

 

[identikit]

The way Kubiak is talking, is there a chance Tate never has an NFL career?

I don't see anything like that in Kubiak's statement.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

The way Kubiak is talking, is there a chance Tate never has an NFL career?

I don't see anything like that in Kubiak's statement.

"Very significant, very unfortunate, and doesn't look good"...wouldn't sit well with me if I owned him in dynasty.But no matter what I write bro, if I said the sky is blue, you would say it's yellow. It's unfortunate but it's proven time and time again you like to oppose just about anything I suggest or write no matter what it is and that's fine. Sometimes you see coaches come out and say players will miss the season but will make a full recovery and be ready to compete again next season, etc...just didn't find much of that in his comments.

 

[identikit]

How I read what Kubiak said

'very significant ankle injury' = not a simple spained ankle, or even a high ankle sprain

'doesn't look good' = will require surgery and will need significant time to heal/rehab, won't be able to help the team in 2010

'very unfortunate' = sad for a rookie who barely got a chance to show what he could do in the NFL

Anything more than that is just speculation.

Nothing yellow about it.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Said over and over this guy would be a bust. While injury was not the reason why or is he to blame this injury gives him a huge push towards bustville. The people who passes on spiller to take Tate must feel pretty silly now.