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Houston Texans forever - Mixon to miss at least first four games (5 Viewers)
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Major
Footballguy
Hahaha, I was also enjoying that
This team is really impressing me - Not giving into injury excuses and playing as a complete unit with lots of heart. Can't wait til they get healthy. My friends at the game said the atmosphere felt like the early 2010s Turn Down For Watt days.
And yeah, give that OL coach a raise and lock in Slowik for another 5 years.
GregR
Footballguy
Nico 7/168/2td.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I’ve always liked Ryans and he has this team playing really well. Lot of nice players and Stroud certainly looks the part. After all the Watson nonsense, this has to feel really good for Texans fans.
Hahaha, I was also enjoying that
This team is really impressing me - Not giving into injury excuses and playing as a complete unit with lots of heart. Can't wait til they get healthy. My friends at the game said the atmosphere felt like the early 2010s Turn Down For Watt days.
And yeah, give that OL coach a raise and lock in Slowik for another 5 years.
Schedule is shaping up to not be very daunting either. As long as the defense doesn’t pull another week 2 and completely not show up there are a lot of winnable games on this list:
ATL 2-2
NO 2-2
Bye
CAR 0-4
TAM 3-1
CIN 1-3
ARI 1-3
JAX 2-2
DEN 1-3
NYJ 1-2?
TEN 2-2
CLE 2-2
TEN 2-2
IND 2-2
GregR
Footballguy
Hahaha, I was also enjoying that
This team is really impressing me - Not giving into injury excuses and playing as a complete unit with lots of heart. Can't wait til they get healthy. My friends at the game said the atmosphere felt like the early 2010s Turn Down For Watt days.
And yeah, give that OL coach a raise and lock in Slowik for another 5 years.
Schedule is shaping up to not be very daunting either. As long as the defense doesn’t pull another week 2 and completely not show up there are a lot of winnable games on this list:
ATL 2-2
NO 2-2
Bye
CAR 0-4
TAM 3-1
CIN 1-3
ARI 1-3
JAX 2-2
DEN 1-3
NYJ 1-2?
TEN 2-2
CLE 2-2
TEN 2-2
IND 2-2
Wow. Jets and Bengals had looked to be NFL contenders but neither looks good. That doesn't leave a whole lot of high caliber opponents. Tampa might be playing above their heads. Jacksonville and Cleveland and maybe New Orleans might be the best of the bunch there.
Major
Footballguy
Is it me or is this the first time in many many years where the Texans are actually closing out opponents comfortably and not blowing leads in the 2nd half? It's a pretty cool feeling to win games without any stress attached. All the credit goes to Ryans and his coaching staff. They have these guys locked in.
Hahaha, I was also enjoying that
This team is really impressing me - Not giving into injury excuses and playing as a complete unit with lots of heart. Can't wait til they get healthy. My friends at the game said the atmosphere felt like the early 2010s Turn Down For Watt days.
And yeah, give that OL coach a raise and lock in Slowik for another 5 years.
Schedule is shaping up to not be very daunting either. As long as the defense doesn’t pull another week 2 and completely not show up there are a lot of winnable games on this list:
ATL 2-2
NO 2-2
Bye
CAR 0-4
TAM 3-1
CIN 1-3
ARI 1-3
JAX 2-2
DEN 1-3
NYJ 1-2?
TEN 2-2
CLE 2-2
TEN 2-2
IND 2-2
Wow. Jets and Bengals had looked to be NFL contenders but neither looks good. That doesn't leave a whole lot of high caliber opponents. Tampa might be playing above their heads. Jacksonville and Cleveland and maybe New Orleans might be the best of the bunch there.
Yeah, its not nearly as rough as it looked before the season started. Obviously it is early in the season but there is a whole lot of mediocre / up & down teams down the entire remaining list. If the improvement on both sides of the ball isn’t smoke and mirrors we look poised to have a much better record than I was originally thinking. Maybe even a shot at the playoffs if they can hold their own in the division and play like they did against JAX and not how they did against Indy.
GregR
Footballguy
Stroud's performance put him at 1,212 yards for the season, surpassing Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert and Andrew Luck for the second-most yards through four starts to begin a career. He trails only Cam Newton's 1,386 yards.
WaltonGoggins
Footballguy
Wow Texans fans what can we say was that a win or was that a win? I hate that I'm beginning to expect the Texans to win now. I don't like that feeling and still focusing on wanting them to improve week to week and feel like their coaching are competent which is something I've begged for forever. For possibly the first time in franchise history I've felt that they have competent coaching who tries to maximize their strengths and masks their weaknesses. They actually seem to have a game plan and are finding ways to counteract other teams strengths.
A few things I've noticed --
1. The defense is solid against the pass but still softer against the run. They have made up for it by having multiple hats hitting the runner over and over but hopefully they can improve on this.
2. One of the hardest hitting defenses I've seen this season. I haven't got to see every team and not saying they are the hardest hitting in the NFL but I'd be surprised if out of the top 10. You can tell DeMeco Ryans practices hitting hard and often and it's not just coach speak to media.
3. Second week in a row where they have shut down opposing offense. They have played bend don't break defense and it's working.
4. Offense still leaving points off the board. This can be a good or bad thing. Good in that they aren't playing "lucky" and have a lot to improve upon, bad that it can come back and haunt them.
5. The makeshift offensive line has played way above their heads and should be given the game ball second week in a row. I can't expect this to continue but luckily Texans will begin to get some of their starters back.
6. Stroud doesn't play like a rookie. We all now this and he still has things to improve but poise is there and he's passed the eye test. I have to believe he will hit some rookie wall at some point. It's encouraging that he still has room to improve and it's playing out of mind lucky type of football.
7. Looks like it's Collins and Tank as the outside WR and Woods in the slot. Jordan (TE) again was targeted which shows Stroud isn't locked in to 1 or 2 WR. Collins blew up but that doesn't mean the rest won't get theirs. I can see ATL next week lock in Collins and Woods or Tank or Jordan or Schultz more open and get more targets.
8. Can Texans actually make the playoffs? Their schedule it's daunting and who is heads and shoulders better in their division? I still think they have got to experience some growing pains this season but tied at 2-2 in division I can't automatically say it's impossible they can't get in.
9. The coaching has been more than competent and just seeing solid coaching putting their players in the best position can turn a team into one of the worst to at worst an average team.
10. Speaking of coaching, second week where the other team begins to take the momentum and you get the "here we go typical Texans will now collapse" feelings we've had hundreds of times in the past only for the Texans to buckle down and regain momentum.
11. National media besides Chris Simms brief mention about Stroud it's been fairly quiet about what they've done in 2 weeks. You'd expect the NFL to showcase a high drafted QB breaking records and on pace to do some things most have not seen. I get there was the 70 point MIA story 2 weeks ago the overshadowed their win but this Sunday thought for sure it would be a bigger story. I don't care if they continue to fall under the radar. You can see on social media that most consider the Texans to be last year Texans. Different coaching and players not the same team so not sure why most consider them to be just as bad.
A few things I've noticed --
1. The defense is solid against the pass but still softer against the run. They have made up for it by having multiple hats hitting the runner over and over but hopefully they can improve on this.
2. One of the hardest hitting defenses I've seen this season. I haven't got to see every team and not saying they are the hardest hitting in the NFL but I'd be surprised if out of the top 10. You can tell DeMeco Ryans practices hitting hard and often and it's not just coach speak to media.
3. Second week in a row where they have shut down opposing offense. They have played bend don't break defense and it's working.
4. Offense still leaving points off the board. This can be a good or bad thing. Good in that they aren't playing "lucky" and have a lot to improve upon, bad that it can come back and haunt them.
5. The makeshift offensive line has played way above their heads and should be given the game ball second week in a row. I can't expect this to continue but luckily Texans will begin to get some of their starters back.
6. Stroud doesn't play like a rookie. We all now this and he still has things to improve but poise is there and he's passed the eye test. I have to believe he will hit some rookie wall at some point. It's encouraging that he still has room to improve and it's playing out of mind lucky type of football.
7. Looks like it's Collins and Tank as the outside WR and Woods in the slot. Jordan (TE) again was targeted which shows Stroud isn't locked in to 1 or 2 WR. Collins blew up but that doesn't mean the rest won't get theirs. I can see ATL next week lock in Collins and Woods or Tank or Jordan or Schultz more open and get more targets.
8. Can Texans actually make the playoffs? Their schedule it's daunting and who is heads and shoulders better in their division? I still think they have got to experience some growing pains this season but tied at 2-2 in division I can't automatically say it's impossible they can't get in.
9. The coaching has been more than competent and just seeing solid coaching putting their players in the best position can turn a team into one of the worst to at worst an average team.
10. Speaking of coaching, second week where the other team begins to take the momentum and you get the "here we go typical Texans will now collapse" feelings we've had hundreds of times in the past only for the Texans to buckle down and regain momentum.
11. National media besides Chris Simms brief mention about Stroud it's been fairly quiet about what they've done in 2 weeks. You'd expect the NFL to showcase a high drafted QB breaking records and on pace to do some things most have not seen. I get there was the 70 point MIA story 2 weeks ago the overshadowed their win but this Sunday thought for sure it would be a bigger story. I don't care if they continue to fall under the radar. You can see on social media that most consider the Texans to be last year Texans. Different coaching and players not the same team so not sure why most consider them to be just as bad.
GregR
Footballguy
Yes, it's pretty quiet in the national media. Seen more talk about Pickett being out than about the game or Stroud.
I did see Jason McCourty picked them for his "Which team made the biggest statement Sunday" this morning on Good Morning Football.
Edit to add: Jamie Erdahl gave her game ball to Nick Caserio. As she put it "We are classically trained to doubt what the Texans are trying to put together". Part of that is including getting Demeco for coach, as well as the roster overhaul.
Edit again to add: ESPN's NFL Live also had a segment on Stroud, including playing his quotes at the podium that have been getting a lot of play already today around town.
I did see Jason McCourty picked them for his "Which team made the biggest statement Sunday" this morning on Good Morning Football.
Edit to add: Jamie Erdahl gave her game ball to Nick Caserio. As she put it "We are classically trained to doubt what the Texans are trying to put together". Part of that is including getting Demeco for coach, as well as the roster overhaul.
Edit again to add: ESPN's NFL Live also had a segment on Stroud, including playing his quotes at the podium that have been getting a lot of play already today around town.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I was one of the few posters that walked around kicking tires with you guys over the summer.
You let me unleash on the Owner/FO and you also allowed me to share that I thought CJ Stroud was the absolute right move
It's early but I see marked improvement in some areas including the defense, the way the OL has rallied without Tunsil, there is a lot to discuss beyond just the QB
But look at what happens when you have a QB that can deliver the football and make good decisions quickly
I'm happy for the fan base but will never forgive what the Texans FO/Owner did and how they handled things after the KC loss in the Playoffs and everything that unrolled for like 2 years after
It's a new day in Houston, we could go on and on about the fear of success because last time they crumbled when they appeared to be on the cusp of being a real NFL team.
I hope they can continue to keep the fire going for '23.
They also traded up to No 3, that looks like a very wise move, not sure if they have a 1st next year or not, but they are trending in the right direction
Houston is going to beat the snot out of a few more teams this year,
This is one of those seasons where they are catching people off guard and they are throwing roundhouse punches that are connecting and knocking people the **** back.
Cheers!
You let me unleash on the Owner/FO and you also allowed me to share that I thought CJ Stroud was the absolute right move
It's early but I see marked improvement in some areas including the defense, the way the OL has rallied without Tunsil, there is a lot to discuss beyond just the QB
But look at what happens when you have a QB that can deliver the football and make good decisions quickly
I'm happy for the fan base but will never forgive what the Texans FO/Owner did and how they handled things after the KC loss in the Playoffs and everything that unrolled for like 2 years after
It's a new day in Houston, we could go on and on about the fear of success because last time they crumbled when they appeared to be on the cusp of being a real NFL team.
I hope they can continue to keep the fire going for '23.
They also traded up to No 3, that looks like a very wise move, not sure if they have a 1st next year or not, but they are trending in the right direction
Houston is going to beat the snot out of a few more teams this year,
This is one of those seasons where they are catching people off guard and they are throwing roundhouse punches that are connecting and knocking people the **** back.
Cheers!
Major
Footballguy
This is the only bittersweet part of their recent success for me. Caserio didn't want CJ and was likely forced on him by McNair. I think this team would be in a much better situation with a better front office given all the picks and fire power they've had in recent years. I think they often overpay, panic and fail to play hardball with other teams/players. This season is trending in the right direction but I credit Demeco more than the front office.
GregR
Footballguy
We still have Cleveland's first round pick next year. We gave 1.12 (from Browns for Deshaun), our 2.02, our own 2024 1st and 3rd, and got 1.03 (Will Anderson) and 4.03 which we then traded for the Eagles 2024 3rd.
At the moment we're both 2-2. Originally there has been grumbling that it was too much to give up for one player with how many needs we had, especially as our own 1st might be not only a top ten pick, but could be a pick in a year you could potentially get a haul from someone wanting one of the top QBs.
Sending our own 2024 1st is looking better than it was. Though I imagine most people would still pick Cleveland's pick to be the worse one, but not by nearly as much as it looked 4 weeks ago.
GregR
Footballguy
A bit early to put stock in these. But the ESPN FPI predictor thing on draft order has the Bears with the top two picks, with Carolina's pick being #1. Talk about a possible haul if it works out like that.
They have our pick that Cards own as pick #15, and the Browns pick we own as pick 19.
They have our pick that Cards own as pick #15, and the Browns pick we own as pick 19.
GregR
Footballguy
Anyone have a PFF login? Curious what Christian Harris' rating is. Noticed he had 13 tackles Sunday.
Also, what are our CB ratings? I see Tavierre Thomas looks like he's 3rd in the league, and Stingley and Nelson 5th and 8th? Is that right, or is it not sorting by what I think it's sorting by? Their stats are hidden but seems like it's sorting in order anyway.
And Harris 5th and To'o To'o 6th and Perryman 9th?
Also, what are our CB ratings? I see Tavierre Thomas looks like he's 3rd in the league, and Stingley and Nelson 5th and 8th? Is that right, or is it not sorting by what I think it's sorting by? Their stats are hidden but seems like it's sorting in order anyway.
And Harris 5th and To'o To'o 6th and Perryman 9th?
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MTskibum
Footballguy
Harris is terrible according to pff, 105 overall for linebackers, his one saving grace is he is 29th for linebackers in coverage.
Thomas is second in coverage, 4th overall. Nelson is 12th in coverage and Stingley is Stingley is 50th in coverage.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I'm surprised but CJ Stroud sits on my waiver wire in a few leagues and I guess some folks don't know he's had 3 20+ pt weeks in FF, ranks 10th in a couple of mine.
9. Jalen Hurts
10. CJ Stroud
-Another thing I want to point out is Houston right now is one of the WORST teams you can stream a Def/ST against, many have tried and failed thru the first month of '23
I cannot get over Tepper trading up to No 1, when he did it I thought Texans just lost out big time for what Lovie pulled in his final game with a head set on, think about how awful 2022 was for a Houston Texans fan...fast forward and that blundering idiot takes a shrimp No 1 overall and I posted everywhere how much better I thought Stroud was as a No 1 overall pick and was mostly heckled and that's another reason i checked in here, I had a feeling we might see something special sooner over later.
Stroud has nothing to do with what transpired before he touched down in Houston.
And he fell right into y'alls lap. And it would seem he has weapons he can exploit immediately.
I'm not sure if Nico is looking better because of Stroud but he's a classic 3rd year breakout at WR and that guy is HUGE, god help a cornerback that has to get him on the ground.
I think CJ has a lot to do with the success of both Collins and the instant "IT" factor we recognize in Dell.
Ladies and Gentlemen there was/is ACDC, I give you the latest QB-WR-WR trio out of Houston
"CJDC"
9. Jalen Hurts
10. CJ Stroud
-Another thing I want to point out is Houston right now is one of the WORST teams you can stream a Def/ST against, many have tried and failed thru the first month of '23
I cannot get over Tepper trading up to No 1, when he did it I thought Texans just lost out big time for what Lovie pulled in his final game with a head set on, think about how awful 2022 was for a Houston Texans fan...fast forward and that blundering idiot takes a shrimp No 1 overall and I posted everywhere how much better I thought Stroud was as a No 1 overall pick and was mostly heckled and that's another reason i checked in here, I had a feeling we might see something special sooner over later.
Stroud has nothing to do with what transpired before he touched down in Houston.
And he fell right into y'alls lap. And it would seem he has weapons he can exploit immediately.
I'm not sure if Nico is looking better because of Stroud but he's a classic 3rd year breakout at WR and that guy is HUGE, god help a cornerback that has to get him on the ground.
I think CJ has a lot to do with the success of both Collins and the instant "IT" factor we recognize in Dell.
Ladies and Gentlemen there was/is ACDC, I give you the latest QB-WR-WR trio out of Houston
"CJDC"
Major
Footballguy
It's been fun catching up on all the articles and videos praising CJ and the Texans this past week. I guess we're a team to watch out for. Not only that, I'm grateful Houston is finally fielding a team that's fun to watch. It's been a solid decade of frustration and absolute boredom. All those Division winning BOB led teams were always fools gold in a weak division.
GregR
Footballguy
Yeah, we need to win 2 of the next 3 I think or we will get relegated back to not worth talking about.
So practice reports are the OL alignment has been:
Tunsil LT. Titus Howard LG. Patterson C. Mason RG. Fant RT.
And Juice not ready to return yet. Wonder if he would get tried at guard. Assume they won't want to move Patterson with how he is playing.
So practice reports are the OL alignment has been:
Tunsil LT. Titus Howard LG. Patterson C. Mason RG. Fant RT.
And Juice not ready to return yet. Wonder if he would get tried at guard. Assume they won't want to move Patterson with how he is playing.
Major
Footballguy
Patriots one of three teams who have not scored over 20 pts yet.
Hi BOB.
QB Whisperer by the way
GregR
Footballguy
TampaMike19
Footballguy
So much for wanting to fire Caserio.
Hou vs Cle week 16 could be interesting too
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Y'all seem to be on a good trajectory and you got the most important position right. Really impressed with the roster construction. Long ways from being contenders but def got the ship headed in the right direction again.
GregR
Footballguy
Cleveland Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson will miss a second consecutive game with a right shoulder injury, the team announced Friday.
PJ Walker will start at quarterback Sunday against the San Francisco 49ers.
Watson has not had a full practice since Sept. 22 while dealing with a bruised rotator cuff to his throwing shoulder.
PJ Walker will start at quarterback Sunday against the San Francisco 49ers.
Watson has not had a full practice since Sept. 22 while dealing with a bruised rotator cuff to his throwing shoulder.
Major
Footballguy
Yep. The only frustrating thing today was seeing CLE upset SF.
GregR
Footballguy
Nice article that Faust posted in the Stroud thread. I liked it best for the insights it gave into some of the stuff Demeco has been doing to get the team where they are.
