Sabertooth
Footballguy
Any reports on Slaton? Does he have much value at this point with the restructuring of Green and the turf toe?
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Thanks, appreciate it. These types of threads are always useful, mainly info and not too much one-upmanship going on.
Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
Anyone know if Houston has taken a look at Najeh Davenport? He's a FA and these guys could certainly use the help! I think the Texans can still be an outside shot at wildcard in the playoffs ... but they need a running game that Ahman and Crystal Brown aren't gonna give them.
Looking for any new info on Slaton as well.
No nothing out. Houston's reporters are notoriously bad, so I wouldn't expect anything the team doesn't want you to know.If you want speculation from a die hard fan; I think they'll rest him for the first game or two and see how Green holds up. If Green somehow, miraculously, stays healthy, Taylor will probably back him up and spell him at times. If (or when) Green gets injured, Slaton and Taylor will probably enter into some form of a RBBC. Turf toe generally takes ~3 weeks of rest to heal, so that should put Slaton back around week 2.This is all assuming Brown gets cut, of course.
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BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Kubiak said Chris Brown still might be cut. They're looking at his back and still have one cut to make. He might be it.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Thanks for posting. Anything that helps clear up the mess at RB in Houston, or on my Brown/Taylor-laden rosters, is appreciated.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Kubiak talked some more and kind of made it sound like Brown will end up being cut. If he is, that leaves them with just three HBs. He said "obviously we'd still have some moves to make if that's the case." Said they'd look at the wire or possibly bring back Shipp or Walker.
coolnerd
Footballguy
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4574
NAME POSITION HT. WT. COLLEGE
Jon Abbate FB 5-11 245 Wake Forest
Shane Boyd QB 6-1 232 Kentucky
Alex Brink QB 6-2 208 Washington St.
Kevis Coley LB 6-1 228 Southern Miss.
Rosevelt Colvin DE 6-3 250 Purdue
Glenn Earl S 6-1 215 Notre Dame
Greg Eslinger C 6-3 292 Minnesota
Jamar Fletcher CB 5-10 180 Wisconsin
Darnell Jenkins WR 5-10 188 Miami (Fla.)
Ryan Krause TE 6-3 244 Neb. - Omaha
Gabe Long DT 6-3 290 Utah
Anthony Maddox DT 6-1 305 Delta St.
LeRon McCoy WR 6-1 219 Indiana (Pa.)
Ben Moffitt LB 6-2 245 South Florida
Jesse Nading DE 6-5 258 Colorado St.
Derrick Roberson CB 5-10 185 Rutgers
Marcel Shipp RB 5-11 224 Massachusetts
Mark Simmons WR 5-10 187 Kansas
Torrin Tucker T 6-6 315 Southern Miss.
Darius Walker RB 5-11 205 Notre Dame
Dexter Wynn CB 5-9 175 Colorado St.
NAME POSITION HT. WT. COLLEGE
Jon Abbate FB 5-11 245 Wake Forest
Shane Boyd QB 6-1 232 Kentucky
Alex Brink QB 6-2 208 Washington St.
Kevis Coley LB 6-1 228 Southern Miss.
Rosevelt Colvin DE 6-3 250 Purdue
Glenn Earl S 6-1 215 Notre Dame
Greg Eslinger C 6-3 292 Minnesota
Jamar Fletcher CB 5-10 180 Wisconsin
Darnell Jenkins WR 5-10 188 Miami (Fla.)
Ryan Krause TE 6-3 244 Neb. - Omaha
Gabe Long DT 6-3 290 Utah
Anthony Maddox DT 6-1 305 Delta St.
LeRon McCoy WR 6-1 219 Indiana (Pa.)
Ben Moffitt LB 6-2 245 South Florida
Jesse Nading DE 6-5 258 Colorado St.
Derrick Roberson CB 5-10 185 Rutgers
Marcel Shipp RB 5-11 224 Massachusetts
Mark Simmons WR 5-10 187 Kansas
Torrin Tucker T 6-6 315 Southern Miss.
Darius Walker RB 5-11 205 Notre Dame
Dexter Wynn CB 5-9 175 Colorado St.
coolnerd
Footballguy
BTW, I want to thank everyone about the kind comments concerning this thread. I stole the idea from the way another team was organized a year and half or so ago, so I can't take all the credit. Also, i get great help from Greg R, Bucka and others when I am actually doing non-fantasy stuff like work and not ignoring my family.
Note over the weekend, i will trasition to the in season thread, especially once the roster appears more set.
Note over the weekend, i will trasition to the in season thread, especially once the roster appears more set.
GregR_2
Footballguy
Definite big
for your work with this thread. Lord knows I am too scatter brained to every pull off something so organized, so it's really appreciated the time you've put into it.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I wonder if the review of Brown's injury is to determine if he's healthy and therefore eligible to be cut? IIRC you have to come to a settlement with an injured player before releasing them, no?
Cowtippers
Footballguy
I'm also curious on the extent of Slaton's turf toe. I read that he missed practice on Sunday, August 24th, but found nothing else to update that report during the week. Did he ever return to practice on a limited basis during the week?? or was he given the whole week off to rest the injury?
I never understand how this works. Why wouldn't they just keep one of those guys and cut someone else? Or wait until they know about Brown and then make the cut?
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
I would say it wasn't really shocking. He was pretty invisible out there. The local radio guys seemed to think it could go either way...
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
agreed. Kudos.RARELY is a thread structured so well and such a great source of cogent, relevant information. This thread should get an award or something.
I was surprised to see Maddox cut. He was all over the field last night with a sack and then just a play or two later an INT. Granted this was the 4th preaseason game with scrubs vs scrubs, plus the INT was just pure luck being in the right spot after a tipped ball. Looking at the box score it looks like he had an encroachment penalty too though.
I think they really like what N.D. Kalu is doing at DE for pass-rush situations. His play and Colvin's lack thereof made Colvin expendable. I would expect Kalu and Anthony Weaver to be rotating in and out at LDE depending on down and situation all year. Next April is a long way away but another legit pass-rushing end will likely still be high on the list of priorities for the Texans draft room. Mario can't do it all by himself.
I think they really like what N.D. Kalu is doing at DE for pass-rush situations. His play and Colvin's lack thereof made Colvin expendable. I would expect Kalu and Anthony Weaver to be rotating in and out at LDE depending on down and situation all year. Next April is a long way away but another legit pass-rushing end will likely still be high on the list of priorities for the Texans draft room. Mario can't do it all by himself.
coolnerd
Footballguy
The last thing that I heard was that it was considered minor, but the Texans are not exactly forthcoming about injuries. The best news is the concern seems to be around the Brown's back. they have only 4 total backs, and even though Brown may make the team or another veteran spare may get picked up, their actions seem to suggest that Slaton is healthy or will be shortly.
coolnerd
Footballguy
When they signed him...noWhen you watched him in pre-season ...yes
coolnerd
Footballguy
Kubiak, Smith on cuts
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4576
The Houston Texans released 21 players from their roster on Friday. The team has one more move to make before the 53-man roster limit deadline Saturday at 3 p.m. CT.
Coach Gary Kubiak and general manager Rick Smith discussed the moves Friday in a press conference at Reliant Stadium.
Head coach Gary Kubiak
(on the roster moves) “I think you guys are going to see, if I’m right, 21 names right there (on the released player list). So there is still one more move to make and we’ll make that one here sometime in the next 24 hours. Ya’ll can take a look at that and I’ll field your questions without me going through it.”
(on releasing DE Rosevelt Colvin) “Rosevelt, very difficult decision. I think we all know why we brought him here. We brought him in to try to use him as a specialist-type of player; a pass rusher. We worked with him at the end position; we worked with him at the linebacker position. The bottom line, when it was all said and done, to have a player on your team to just play nickel or just have that type of special role, it had to be special. We had to sit there and weigh him against other players that could play special teams and do some other things for the football team. When it was all said and done, we went in the other direction. You know, he busted his tail and did everything he could do. We tried to move him around as best we could, but when it was all said and done, the decision was made for a player that would do more things, especially from a standpoint of special teams.”
(on if he is concerned with RB Chris Brown’s back injury) “That’s the other issue right now. We are evaluating his injury as we speak. So he’s part of that process right now; that last move or that last thing that’s going to take place here over the course of the next 24 hours. We are still evaluating. We have some people looking at his back and some of the work that we’ve done over the course of the last three days and we’re trying to make a decision. That’s why there is still one missing (from the released players list).”
(on the decision to release DT Anthony Maddox) “Yeah, it was a tough decision between (DT Frank) Okam and Maddox. It was very close; Anthony did some real good things in the game last night. Frank took a step forward as a player last night. I’ll tell you just like I told Anthony. When it gets real close like that between two players, you know, we went young. And we did that in a couple spots. We are going with the young player that we think has a lot of upside. Is (Okam) there yet? No, he has a long, long way to go. But we think he gives us a big, big presence that we don’t have on this football team inside. We are expecting him to make a lot of ground. We are letting a good football player go in Anthony and the job he did for us. It was a decision of going young at that spot.”
(on how tough the decision at defensive back was) “Yeah, it was very difficult. We ended up, as of right now we’ve got nine (defensive backs). We went with four corners, of course (CB) Dunta (Robinson) being on PUP and we expect him back. Tough decision to make on (CB Derrick) Roberson to be honest with you. Played really well throughout the preseason. Struggled a little bit last night at times, but it wasn’t a lack of effort or anything he was doing. I think the fact that he has some practice squad eligibility came into our thinking there. So we’ll see what happens from that standpoint. Kept five safeties. We really like our two young safeties. Of course (S) Glenn Earl got caught up in that. Everything I just said about the (DT Anthony) Maddox situation, I could echo the exact same thoughts right there. We went with two young guys in (S Dominique) Barber and (S Brandon) Harrison. We do plan on playing Harrison outside some with some of the things we are doing. He’ll be one of the safeties that will play outside like he did in college, so he’ll play some corner also. We kept two young players here that we think have a chance to be good special teams players.”
(on the quarterback situation) “Well, it’s obvious who our two are and the type of players that they are. So we chose to go with two again. As far as the two young kids, we are considering both of them as a practice squad player. In all honesty, we are going to look at the wire also to see what’s going on there. As I told both of them young men, one of them could be coming back as a practice squad player or we could go in another direction. I don’t know, we’ll see how that pans out. You know, right now, we’ll go with our two, but you definitely like to have a third one around one way or the other. You all know I feel that way.”
(on going with three running backs) “Well, right now the number is four total, right? There’s three halfbacks, if you don’t count (RB) Chris (Brown) depending on what happens here with his injury. So we’re obviously short there. I think we all know, standing here today, there’s some moves to be made over the course of the next couple of days. We understand how short we are there if he is not available and ready to go. If that happens, you’re looking at the wire. You’re still making a decision. You could make a decision between (RB Marcel) Shipp and (RB) Darius (Walker) to come back, but to get down the numbers today we made these decisions.”
(on C Chris White being the backup center) “We see (G Mike) Brisiel and (C Chris) White. Chris, we’ve listed as our backup center. If we suit seven on game day, Brisiel will be our backup center. We are going to work as far as who we are going to suit on game day. As far as the roster and how we list them, Chris White will be listed as our backup center. Brisiel can do both, though.”
(on if there is concern about linebacker depth) “Yeah, I don’t want to use the word disappointment, because there is nothing you can do about it. We’ve got six guys there right now. Those six are pretty cut-and-dry decisions, but two of those players have basically been inactive. I mean, (LB Chuan) Thompson and (LB Xavier) Adibi have not played much at all this preseason. We know, potentially, what they can do for our football team. We needed to be done, so we’ve had patience with them. We expect Thompson back full speed for Pittsburgh. I think there’s still a little doubt about Xavier and his Achilles right now, but that has made it very, very difficult on us. It’s made it very difficult on (special teams coach) Joe (Marciano) as far as linebackers helping him on special teams. Another thing that was tough today was this (LB Kevis) Coley kid. He played his tail off last night. A really, really hard decision for us. We like him a lot. There’s still a possibility he could come back somehow, someway, so we’ll see.”
(on what the nickel and dime situation is) “Well, we can move some people around in there. Of course (CB) Fred’s (Bennett) a guy that goes inside. That is a concern, as far as who backs up Fred inside. (CB) Jacques (Reeves) has played some inside, so we can move some guys around. As we move forward here, over the course of the waiver wire here, over the next 24 hours, that is something we will be looking at. That is a little bit of a concern for us, but we thought both of those guys can do it.”
(on when he expects to make a decision about either Chris Brown or the last player to be released) “I don’t know. I have to wait until I have more information. Rick and I have to sit down with that. Rick can probably answer that better than I can because I’ve been involved with some other meetings here over the course of the last two hours. But we have a tough decision to make there, we just have to make sure we use all of our time and do the right thing about the kid.”
General manager Rick Smith
(on how disappointing it was about DE Rosevelt Colvin) “It is. As (head coach) Gary (Kubiak) talked about, the idea behind adding (DE) Rosevelt (Colvin) to our team was to add an element of pass rush. When you do something like that at the position of defensive end, he’s got to show something special if you’re going to carry a specialist on your roster. Those 53 positions are very sacred. We just didn’t feel like that element was there enough for us to carry a specialist. It’s disappointing. Everybody knows our relationship, and so I had hoped that he could add something to our team that obviously we feel like is not going to be there. We decided to move in a different direction.”
(on if DE N.D. Kalu’s performance in training camp had an affect on the decision with DE Rosevelt Colvin) “I think the two are mutually exclusive. I don’t think it had anything to do with it. (DE) N.D. (Kalu) did an excellent job this summer in the offseason, and you’re right, he did do some really good things, but I think that there is a place for another pass rusher in this defense. So I don’t think the two were related at all.”
(on the chances of CB Derrick Roberson getting picked up by another team) “He (CB Derrick Roberson) does, and that’s a risk you run when you elect to go this route. We certainly have been pleased with what we have seen as he has developed over the course of the summer and training camp. We’re hopeful that we can get him back to the practice squad. I think that the kid is on the come up. I think he is a developing player. I think he is a very diligent player. He’s a hard working kid, very competitive. We’re hopeful that we can continue that developing here, and at some point, he’ll realize his potential and make our roster.”
(on what went into the decision with cutting CB Jamar Fletcher) “Well, it was not anything different than any other thing. You’ve got to weigh what you feel like the guy adds to your football team versus some other positions. When you put a 53-man roster together, there are so many variables, as you all know, the different numbers of players at a particular position. We elected at this point to go with four corners and go heavier at some other positions. The complexion of what this roster looks like today and the 53 guys that are on here today, we haven’t even gotten to 53 yet. We’re still at 54 at this point. What that looks like when we get done tomorrow at 3 p.m., it could change in a week. It could change in two weeks. It does that. We’re constantly retooling, and our practice squad could change relative to what happens on the 53-man roster. It’s fluid. It’s a fluid process, and we understand that. The thing that we tried to do and the goal we set out to do was to put the best 53 guys together that we felt that would give us the best chance to go beat Pittsburgh. That’s what we’re doing.”
(on the tackle position situation with six players) “Yeah. We went a little heavy just like we just talked about. We went a little heavy on the offensive line. As you put a team together and you assess value and one position versus another position, we just felt like all those players at this point deserve to be on our team and give us a chance to go win and be competitive. If you look at our offensive tackle group, there’s a bunch of guys there, but (T) Ephraim’s (Salaam) been off for a little while with the knee. (T) Rashad (Butler) had a little bit of a shoulder deal yesterday. He’s going to be fine. All of the sudden you look like you’re heavy at a position, but injuries can take its toll on positions at certain times. I think a little bit of that has a little bit to do with it. Again, it’s just trying to get the best 53 guys at the end of the day.”
(on what is going on with the evaluation of RB Chris Brown) “We are trying to be as diligent as possible. We had another MRI ordered the other day, and we’re assessing that and assessing where we feel like he is as a player and what his contribution can be on our football team this year. We want to exhaust every opportunity that we can to make a good decision on that. So that’s what we’re doing.”
(on if the team realizes that RB Chris Brown can’t play, will the situation at RB be a problem?) “Well, I don’t know if it’s a problem. We’ve got three guys that we feel pretty good about, but we’ve only got four running backs when you count the fullback in (FB) Vonta (Leach). I think (head coach) Gary (Kubiak) talked to you about the fact that we’re really going to be watching the waiver wire over the next couple of days. We’ve already done some work as a pro scouting staff to anticipate where we think some players may be or who might be available. Certainly, we will continue to look at that, and then once the releases actually happen, we’ll take a look at who might be available and what are some of our other options if in fact (RB) Chris (Brown) is not available to us.”
(on the affect that Hurricane Gustav has on Texans' upcoming plans) “What I’m learning is that we could have this conversation a lot during this time of year. The thing that I would say to you is similar to what I said before a couple of weeks ago. We’ve got a hurricane preparedness plan. We’ve got various scenarios and various levels of that plan. Whatever happens will dictate where we go and what we do. We’re ready for it. We’ve got anything from nothing and just tracking where we’ve got internal communication going where everybody understands what’s going on, or the potential all the way up to packing everything up and leaving. So it runs the gamut. We’ll be prepared. We are tracking it. I actually spoke with Ron Hill at the league office a couple of days ago about it. We’re in touch with the league. We’re in touch internally, so we’ve got a plan.”
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4576
The Houston Texans released 21 players from their roster on Friday. The team has one more move to make before the 53-man roster limit deadline Saturday at 3 p.m. CT.
Coach Gary Kubiak and general manager Rick Smith discussed the moves Friday in a press conference at Reliant Stadium.
Head coach Gary Kubiak
(on the roster moves) “I think you guys are going to see, if I’m right, 21 names right there (on the released player list). So there is still one more move to make and we’ll make that one here sometime in the next 24 hours. Ya’ll can take a look at that and I’ll field your questions without me going through it.”
(on releasing DE Rosevelt Colvin) “Rosevelt, very difficult decision. I think we all know why we brought him here. We brought him in to try to use him as a specialist-type of player; a pass rusher. We worked with him at the end position; we worked with him at the linebacker position. The bottom line, when it was all said and done, to have a player on your team to just play nickel or just have that type of special role, it had to be special. We had to sit there and weigh him against other players that could play special teams and do some other things for the football team. When it was all said and done, we went in the other direction. You know, he busted his tail and did everything he could do. We tried to move him around as best we could, but when it was all said and done, the decision was made for a player that would do more things, especially from a standpoint of special teams.”
(on if he is concerned with RB Chris Brown’s back injury) “That’s the other issue right now. We are evaluating his injury as we speak. So he’s part of that process right now; that last move or that last thing that’s going to take place here over the course of the next 24 hours. We are still evaluating. We have some people looking at his back and some of the work that we’ve done over the course of the last three days and we’re trying to make a decision. That’s why there is still one missing (from the released players list).”
(on the decision to release DT Anthony Maddox) “Yeah, it was a tough decision between (DT Frank) Okam and Maddox. It was very close; Anthony did some real good things in the game last night. Frank took a step forward as a player last night. I’ll tell you just like I told Anthony. When it gets real close like that between two players, you know, we went young. And we did that in a couple spots. We are going with the young player that we think has a lot of upside. Is (Okam) there yet? No, he has a long, long way to go. But we think he gives us a big, big presence that we don’t have on this football team inside. We are expecting him to make a lot of ground. We are letting a good football player go in Anthony and the job he did for us. It was a decision of going young at that spot.”
(on how tough the decision at defensive back was) “Yeah, it was very difficult. We ended up, as of right now we’ve got nine (defensive backs). We went with four corners, of course (CB) Dunta (Robinson) being on PUP and we expect him back. Tough decision to make on (CB Derrick) Roberson to be honest with you. Played really well throughout the preseason. Struggled a little bit last night at times, but it wasn’t a lack of effort or anything he was doing. I think the fact that he has some practice squad eligibility came into our thinking there. So we’ll see what happens from that standpoint. Kept five safeties. We really like our two young safeties. Of course (S) Glenn Earl got caught up in that. Everything I just said about the (DT Anthony) Maddox situation, I could echo the exact same thoughts right there. We went with two young guys in (S Dominique) Barber and (S Brandon) Harrison. We do plan on playing Harrison outside some with some of the things we are doing. He’ll be one of the safeties that will play outside like he did in college, so he’ll play some corner also. We kept two young players here that we think have a chance to be good special teams players.”
(on the quarterback situation) “Well, it’s obvious who our two are and the type of players that they are. So we chose to go with two again. As far as the two young kids, we are considering both of them as a practice squad player. In all honesty, we are going to look at the wire also to see what’s going on there. As I told both of them young men, one of them could be coming back as a practice squad player or we could go in another direction. I don’t know, we’ll see how that pans out. You know, right now, we’ll go with our two, but you definitely like to have a third one around one way or the other. You all know I feel that way.”
(on going with three running backs) “Well, right now the number is four total, right? There’s three halfbacks, if you don’t count (RB) Chris (Brown) depending on what happens here with his injury. So we’re obviously short there. I think we all know, standing here today, there’s some moves to be made over the course of the next couple of days. We understand how short we are there if he is not available and ready to go. If that happens, you’re looking at the wire. You’re still making a decision. You could make a decision between (RB Marcel) Shipp and (RB) Darius (Walker) to come back, but to get down the numbers today we made these decisions.”
(on C Chris White being the backup center) “We see (G Mike) Brisiel and (C Chris) White. Chris, we’ve listed as our backup center. If we suit seven on game day, Brisiel will be our backup center. We are going to work as far as who we are going to suit on game day. As far as the roster and how we list them, Chris White will be listed as our backup center. Brisiel can do both, though.”
(on if there is concern about linebacker depth) “Yeah, I don’t want to use the word disappointment, because there is nothing you can do about it. We’ve got six guys there right now. Those six are pretty cut-and-dry decisions, but two of those players have basically been inactive. I mean, (LB Chuan) Thompson and (LB Xavier) Adibi have not played much at all this preseason. We know, potentially, what they can do for our football team. We needed to be done, so we’ve had patience with them. We expect Thompson back full speed for Pittsburgh. I think there’s still a little doubt about Xavier and his Achilles right now, but that has made it very, very difficult on us. It’s made it very difficult on (special teams coach) Joe (Marciano) as far as linebackers helping him on special teams. Another thing that was tough today was this (LB Kevis) Coley kid. He played his tail off last night. A really, really hard decision for us. We like him a lot. There’s still a possibility he could come back somehow, someway, so we’ll see.”
(on what the nickel and dime situation is) “Well, we can move some people around in there. Of course (CB) Fred’s (Bennett) a guy that goes inside. That is a concern, as far as who backs up Fred inside. (CB) Jacques (Reeves) has played some inside, so we can move some guys around. As we move forward here, over the course of the waiver wire here, over the next 24 hours, that is something we will be looking at. That is a little bit of a concern for us, but we thought both of those guys can do it.”
(on when he expects to make a decision about either Chris Brown or the last player to be released) “I don’t know. I have to wait until I have more information. Rick and I have to sit down with that. Rick can probably answer that better than I can because I’ve been involved with some other meetings here over the course of the last two hours. But we have a tough decision to make there, we just have to make sure we use all of our time and do the right thing about the kid.”
General manager Rick Smith
(on how disappointing it was about DE Rosevelt Colvin) “It is. As (head coach) Gary (Kubiak) talked about, the idea behind adding (DE) Rosevelt (Colvin) to our team was to add an element of pass rush. When you do something like that at the position of defensive end, he’s got to show something special if you’re going to carry a specialist on your roster. Those 53 positions are very sacred. We just didn’t feel like that element was there enough for us to carry a specialist. It’s disappointing. Everybody knows our relationship, and so I had hoped that he could add something to our team that obviously we feel like is not going to be there. We decided to move in a different direction.”
(on if DE N.D. Kalu’s performance in training camp had an affect on the decision with DE Rosevelt Colvin) “I think the two are mutually exclusive. I don’t think it had anything to do with it. (DE) N.D. (Kalu) did an excellent job this summer in the offseason, and you’re right, he did do some really good things, but I think that there is a place for another pass rusher in this defense. So I don’t think the two were related at all.”
(on the chances of CB Derrick Roberson getting picked up by another team) “He (CB Derrick Roberson) does, and that’s a risk you run when you elect to go this route. We certainly have been pleased with what we have seen as he has developed over the course of the summer and training camp. We’re hopeful that we can get him back to the practice squad. I think that the kid is on the come up. I think he is a developing player. I think he is a very diligent player. He’s a hard working kid, very competitive. We’re hopeful that we can continue that developing here, and at some point, he’ll realize his potential and make our roster.”
(on what went into the decision with cutting CB Jamar Fletcher) “Well, it was not anything different than any other thing. You’ve got to weigh what you feel like the guy adds to your football team versus some other positions. When you put a 53-man roster together, there are so many variables, as you all know, the different numbers of players at a particular position. We elected at this point to go with four corners and go heavier at some other positions. The complexion of what this roster looks like today and the 53 guys that are on here today, we haven’t even gotten to 53 yet. We’re still at 54 at this point. What that looks like when we get done tomorrow at 3 p.m., it could change in a week. It could change in two weeks. It does that. We’re constantly retooling, and our practice squad could change relative to what happens on the 53-man roster. It’s fluid. It’s a fluid process, and we understand that. The thing that we tried to do and the goal we set out to do was to put the best 53 guys together that we felt that would give us the best chance to go beat Pittsburgh. That’s what we’re doing.”
(on the tackle position situation with six players) “Yeah. We went a little heavy just like we just talked about. We went a little heavy on the offensive line. As you put a team together and you assess value and one position versus another position, we just felt like all those players at this point deserve to be on our team and give us a chance to go win and be competitive. If you look at our offensive tackle group, there’s a bunch of guys there, but (T) Ephraim’s (Salaam) been off for a little while with the knee. (T) Rashad (Butler) had a little bit of a shoulder deal yesterday. He’s going to be fine. All of the sudden you look like you’re heavy at a position, but injuries can take its toll on positions at certain times. I think a little bit of that has a little bit to do with it. Again, it’s just trying to get the best 53 guys at the end of the day.”
(on what is going on with the evaluation of RB Chris Brown) “We are trying to be as diligent as possible. We had another MRI ordered the other day, and we’re assessing that and assessing where we feel like he is as a player and what his contribution can be on our football team this year. We want to exhaust every opportunity that we can to make a good decision on that. So that’s what we’re doing.”
(on if the team realizes that RB Chris Brown can’t play, will the situation at RB be a problem?) “Well, I don’t know if it’s a problem. We’ve got three guys that we feel pretty good about, but we’ve only got four running backs when you count the fullback in (FB) Vonta (Leach). I think (head coach) Gary (Kubiak) talked to you about the fact that we’re really going to be watching the waiver wire over the next couple of days. We’ve already done some work as a pro scouting staff to anticipate where we think some players may be or who might be available. Certainly, we will continue to look at that, and then once the releases actually happen, we’ll take a look at who might be available and what are some of our other options if in fact (RB) Chris (Brown) is not available to us.”
(on the affect that Hurricane Gustav has on Texans' upcoming plans) “What I’m learning is that we could have this conversation a lot during this time of year. The thing that I would say to you is similar to what I said before a couple of weeks ago. We’ve got a hurricane preparedness plan. We’ve got various scenarios and various levels of that plan. Whatever happens will dictate where we go and what we do. We’re ready for it. We’ve got anything from nothing and just tracking where we’ve got internal communication going where everybody understands what’s going on, or the potential all the way up to packing everything up and leaving. So it runs the gamut. We’ll be prepared. We are tracking it. I actually spoke with Ron Hill at the league office a couple of days ago about it. We’re in touch with the league. We’re in touch internally, so we’ve got a plan.”
el-gato-grande
Footballguy
(on going with three running backs) “Well, right now the number is four total, right? There’s three halfbacks, if you don’t count (RB) Chris (Brown) depending on what happens here with his injury. So we’re obviously short there. I think we all know, standing here today, there’s some moves to be made over the course of the next couple of days. We understand how short we are there if he is not available and ready to go. If that happens, you’re looking at the wire. You’re still making a decision. You could make a decision between (RB Marcel) Shipp and (RB) Darius (Walker) to come back, but to get down the numbers today we made these decisions.”
Rudi Johnson
Rudi Johnson
Gopher State
Footballguy
What their saying in Houston Rudi Rudi Rudi!
thecardiackid
Footballguy
Texans placed RB Chris Brown (back) on injured reserve, ending his season.
An MRI may have shown structural damage to Brown's back. The 27-year-old is easily one of the league's most injury prone players. If he recovers, perhaps Houston will release Brown with an injury settlement. The Texans' lone remaining tailbacks are Ahman Green, Steve Slaton, and Chris Taylor. Aug. 30 - 3:57 pm et
Source: Houston Chronicle
An MRI may have shown structural damage to Brown's back. The 27-year-old is easily one of the league's most injury prone players. If he recovers, perhaps Houston will release Brown with an injury settlement. The Texans' lone remaining tailbacks are Ahman Green, Steve Slaton, and Chris Taylor. Aug. 30 - 3:57 pm et
Source: Houston Chronicle
coolnerd
Footballguy
Both..check the stats from the 3rd pre-season game.
coolnerd
Footballguy
coolnerd
Footballguy
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4580
Kubiak, tells you that its RBBC for now. Green and Slaton should be ready week 1
(on if someone else could get cut) “We’re not finished with our team, if that’s what you are asking. The wire comes out tomorrow, so we’ll be looking at that. (General manager) Rick (Smith) and I will be looking at that, probably tonight at midnight and throughout the morning. There are still some things that we think we could do to help our football team, so could that include a move or two? Yes, it could. It could also mean we stay pat. I don’t know, so we’ll see.”
(on what he plans to do with the running back situation) “I think we very well could (play three running backs in the game) because you have to remember that (RB) Ahman (Green) hasn’t played a lot. To all of a sudden go out there and start and think he is going to carry the ball 25 times this weekend, I think would be a mistake. We could very well play three guys in the game. Who ends up lining up behind Ahman, how we go one or two, we’ll make that decision as the week goes on. (RB Steve) Slaton has missed some time. He did not practice today, so we are trying to make sure his turf toe is ok before we move forward.”
(on what RB Steve Slaton is in position to do for the team) “He better be ready to go a bunch. We are really counting on him, and we just wanted to make sure we got him good and rested with the turf toe so it wasn’t a problem. I expect him to probably be out here Monday, but if not, if there is any doubt at all, I’ll wait until Wednesday. But there is no doubt he’ll be ready to go.”
(on what RB Steve Slaton has shown in terms of picking up the offense) “He’s been good. He’s made progress every week. His best week was the Dallas week, so that was a good thing, playing a defense very similar (to Pittsburgh’s) from that standpoint. This one is as fast as you’ll find and as physical as you’ll find, so he’ll have to be as good as he was against Dallas and take a step forward. He’ll get plenty of work, and we are counting on him.”
Kubiak, tells you that its RBBC for now. Green and Slaton should be ready week 1
(on if someone else could get cut) “We’re not finished with our team, if that’s what you are asking. The wire comes out tomorrow, so we’ll be looking at that. (General manager) Rick (Smith) and I will be looking at that, probably tonight at midnight and throughout the morning. There are still some things that we think we could do to help our football team, so could that include a move or two? Yes, it could. It could also mean we stay pat. I don’t know, so we’ll see.”
(on what he plans to do with the running back situation) “I think we very well could (play three running backs in the game) because you have to remember that (RB) Ahman (Green) hasn’t played a lot. To all of a sudden go out there and start and think he is going to carry the ball 25 times this weekend, I think would be a mistake. We could very well play three guys in the game. Who ends up lining up behind Ahman, how we go one or two, we’ll make that decision as the week goes on. (RB Steve) Slaton has missed some time. He did not practice today, so we are trying to make sure his turf toe is ok before we move forward.”
(on what RB Steve Slaton is in position to do for the team) “He better be ready to go a bunch. We are really counting on him, and we just wanted to make sure we got him good and rested with the turf toe so it wasn’t a problem. I expect him to probably be out here Monday, but if not, if there is any doubt at all, I’ll wait until Wednesday. But there is no doubt he’ll be ready to go.”
(on what RB Steve Slaton has shown in terms of picking up the offense) “He’s been good. He’s made progress every week. His best week was the Dallas week, so that was a good thing, playing a defense very similar (to Pittsburgh’s) from that standpoint. This one is as fast as you’ll find and as physical as you’ll find, so he’ll have to be as good as he was against Dallas and take a step forward. He’ll get plenty of work, and we are counting on him.”
coolnerd
Footballguy
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4582
Practice Squad
The Houston Texans announced Sunday that they have signed the following seven players to their practice squad:
NAME POSITION HT. WT. COLLEGE
Kevis Coley LB 6-1 228 Southern Miss.
Darnell Jenkins WR 5-10 188 Miami (Fla.)
Gabe Long DT 6-3 290 Utah
Jesse Nading DE 6-5 258 Colorado St.
Derrick Roberson CB 5-10 185 Rutgers
Mark Simmons WR 5-10 187 Kansas
Darius Walker RB 5-11 205 Notre Dame
Also, the team released tackle Cliff Washburn and signed defensive end Stanley McClover (6-2, 263), a 2006 seventh-round draft choice of the Carolina Panthers. In 11 games last season, McClover had seven tackles and a sack. The former Auburn Tiger was waived by Carolina on Saturday.
Edit 9/1
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4584#
Practice Squad
The Houston Texans announced Sunday that they have signed the following seven players to their practice squad:
NAME POSITION HT. WT. COLLEGE
Kevis Coley LB 6-1 228 Southern Miss.
Darnell Jenkins WR 5-10 188 Miami (Fla.)
Gabe Long DT 6-3 290 Utah
Jesse Nading DE 6-5 258 Colorado St.
Derrick Roberson CB 5-10 185 Rutgers
Mark Simmons WR 5-10 187 Kansas
Darius Walker RB 5-11 205 Notre Dame
Also, the team released tackle Cliff Washburn and signed defensive end Stanley McClover (6-2, 263), a 2006 seventh-round draft choice of the Carolina Panthers. In 11 games last season, McClover had seven tackles and a sack. The former Auburn Tiger was waived by Carolina on Saturday.
Edit 9/1
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4584#
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Cowtippers
Footballguy
According to the Texan's official web site, Slaton returned to practice today.........good news for those of us watching how he deals with turf toe.
From "HoustonTexans.com"
Running back Steve Slaton returned to the practice field after sitting out on Saturday with turf toe. The Texans' newest player, defensive end Stanley McClover, also worked out with the team.
From "HoustonTexans.com"
Running back Steve Slaton returned to the practice field after sitting out on Saturday with turf toe. The Texans' newest player, defensive end Stanley McClover, also worked out with the team.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Great thread. I've been popping in and out of here wondering if I should keep Slaton or cut him for Fargas. If his toe is OK, I think his upside is probably better.
coolnerd
Footballguy
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4587
Brandon Frye dropped with no additional move announced.
Brandon Frye dropped with no additional move announced.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I hope the Texans actually draft a decent RB one of these years so they don't have to continually scrape the bottom of the barrel for other teams' castoffs anymoer.
GregR_2
Footballguy
While I would love for us to get a great RB, the team has had other needs that were greater. The job that guys like Ron Dayne and Darius Walker did was still better than the play we'd gotten out of our O-line and secondary.And they did use a 3rd rounder on Slaton last year. I'm still not overly enthusiastic he is a long term solution unless the O-line suddenly starts opening giant holes that any capable back can run through.Andy Dufresne said:
WarRedbirds
Footballguy
Is there any chance that chris taylor can take this job?
GregR_2
Footballguy
Same here. Hopefully Molden will start to show something where he can be a competent #2 across from Dunta (assuming Dunta is ever the same player again) so we won't need to use the 1st at CB. But CB and DE are right now the bigger problem than is RB. RB just gets more press from the media because of fantasy football and because running back is more glamorous to talk about than is DE.I also think guard is a position we may have some need. But given how Gibb has done with later round and even undrafted lineman, I think after Brown at LT maybe that isn't something we need to try spending early picks on.
coolnerd
Footballguy
We are all in agreement here. While not fun every year to wonder about RB, after that 2-14 team which was at the bottom of the league on both defense and offense, the texans had a severe lack of talent. RB is a last piece of the puzzle or you might get lucky for a year or two type position. Still need another pass rusher, and at least one playmaker type in the secondary probably before I am just clamoring for a 1st round RB.
massraider
Footballguy
TEXANS AREN’T AND WEREN’T INTERESTED IN BELL
Posted by Mike Florio on September 3, 2008, 4:44 p.m. EDT
We’re told that the Houston Texans aren’t interested in adding free-agent running back Tatum Bell, contrary to a report from earlier today in the Detroit News.
And while it’s tempting to conclude that the Texans decided not to bring Bell to town based on the allegations that he stole running back Rudi Johnson’s bags on Monday, the truth is that the Texans were never interested.
The thinking is that Bell or his agent concocted the Texans story in order to generate positive buzz — possibly because they knew that plenty of negative buzz was coming.
Posted by Mike Florio on September 3, 2008, 4:44 p.m. EDT
We’re told that the Houston Texans aren’t interested in adding free-agent running back Tatum Bell, contrary to a report from earlier today in the Detroit News.
And while it’s tempting to conclude that the Texans decided not to bring Bell to town based on the allegations that he stole running back Rudi Johnson’s bags on Monday, the truth is that the Texans were never interested.
The thinking is that Bell or his agent concocted the Texans story in order to generate positive buzz — possibly because they knew that plenty of negative buzz was coming.
