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David Dodds

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Drafted from the 11th hole of a 12 team league.

Rules: Start 1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK and 1 Def.

Mock Draft is 12 rounds, but we were suppose to assume we had 16 picks (ie some teams did not add PK, Def, a 2nd QB, etc)

Pass yards = 1 pt per 20 yards passing

Pass TDs = 4 pts

Interceptions = -1 pts

Rush/Receive yards = 1 pt per 10 yards

Rush/Receive TDs = 6 pts

Kickers get 3 per FG and 1 per EP

Defense is TDs, sacks, interceptions, and fumbles only

Here is the team I drafted today:

Name/Team/Bye/Pick

Quarterbacks

Plummer, Jake DEN (4) - 9.11

Bledsoe, Drew DAL (3) - 12.02

Running Backs

Williams, Carnell TBB (4) - 1.11

Jackson, Steven STL (7) - 2.02

Green, Ahman GBP (6) - 6.02

Wide Receivers

Ward, Hines PIT (4) - 3.11

Jackson, Darrell SEA (5) - 4.02

Horn, Joe NOS (7) - 5.11

Coles, Laveranues NYJ (9) - 7.11

Bruce, Isaac STL (7) - 10.02

Tight Ends

Witten, Jason DAL (3) - 8.02

Defense

Bears, Chicago CHI (7) - 11.11

 
Please take your schtick to the Assistant Coaches Forum.

Don't these newbies ever learn?

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LOL! - Sorry David, this had me laughing in my living room...I think you did fairly well, other than Ahman at 6 - that might be a reach (hard to know without the complete draft)... I'm not sold on him getting back to his hey-days... even though, no one is there in their backfield (Gado excluded) to compete with him... fumbles, injuries have me worried about Green...

I can see that you have him at RB3... but...

 
Love the QB tandem, both are solid top 8 QBs this year if healthy. Also think Caddy and Jackson are both RB1s in a 12-team league, so you did well there, and Ahman is a decent RB3. Your receivers leave a little to be desired, particularly if DJax isn't at full speed because of his most recent surgery. But for a May 3rd draft... :thumbup:

 
Love the QB tandem, both are solid top 8 QBs this year if healthy. Also think Caddy and Jackson are both RB1s in a 12-team league, so you did well there, and Ahman is a decent RB3. Your receivers leave a little to be desired, particularly if DJax isn't at full speed because of his most recent surgery. But for a May 3rd draft... :thumbup:

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I agree with all of the above. Overall, very nice draft.
 
Drafted from the 11th hole of a 12 team league.

Here is the team I drafted today:

Name/Team/Bye/Pick

Quarterbacks

Plummer, Jake DEN (4) - 9.11

Bledsoe, Drew DAL (3) - 12.02

Running Backs

Williams, Carnell TBB (4) - 1.11

Jackson, Steven STL (7) - 2.02

Green, Ahman GBP (6) - 6.02

Wide Receivers

Ward, Hines PIT (4) - 3.11

Jackson, Darrell SEA (5) - 4.02

Horn, Joe NOS (7) - 5.11

Coles, Laveranues NYJ (9) - 7.11

Bruce, Isaac STL (7) - 10.02

Tight Ends

Witten, Jason DAL (3) - 8.02

Defense

Bears, Chicago CHI (7) - 11.11

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Williams and Jackson are a nice pair, I guess. I'm not a big fan of Jackson, but if you are, that's where you have to take him. I guess I'm just concerned b/c you only have one backup RB, and he's not reliable from an injury standpoint, a competition on his team standpoint, and a crappy O-line standpoint. Still, Green is good value in round 6.I liked the Ward and Jackson picks in the 3rd/4th turn. Good WRs, consistent, with lots of upside. Joe Horn in the 5th is an ok pick, I guess, but I would have liked to konw what was available at TE and QB at that point. I'm not sold on Brees' recovery, and with Bush in town, I suspect the best days are in Joe Horn's rear-view. I guess I'm not a big fan of your 5th/6th turn.

7th round is another spot I'm gonna nitpick on. While I do think Coles is underrated, and represents good value, I think he would have been there in the 9th... and I guess I'd rather gamble on someone else at that spot, given the QB instability in NY. If you were getting PPR, fine, but otherwise, this is a reach. Witten in the 8th is a fine pick.

The 9/10 turn was my favorite. Plummer will put up numbers, and Isaac Bruce is a terrific 10th round pick. He will outproduce guys taken 6 rounds ahead of him.

 
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Great picks in green. Bad picks in red.

Quarterbacks

Plummer, Jake DEN (4) - 9.11

Bledsoe, Drew DAL (3) - 12.02

Running Backs

Williams, Carnell TBB (4) - 1.11

Jackson, Steven STL (7) - 2.02

Green, Ahman GBP (6) - 6.02

Wide Receivers

Ward, Hines PIT (4) - 3.11

Jackson, Darrell SEA (5) - 4.02

Horn, Joe NOS (7) - 5.11

Coles, Laveranues NYJ (9) - 7.11

Bruce, Isaac STL (7) - 10.02

Tight Ends

Witten, Jason DAL (3) - 8.02

Defense

Bears, Chicago CHI (7) - 11.11

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I guess I'm just concerned b/c you only have one backup QB, and he's not reliable from an injury standpoint, a competition on his team standpoint, and a crappy O-line standpoint. Still, Green is good value in round 6.

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I can't agree with this. I think Bledsoe in the 12th of a redraft is great value with Owens, Glenn, and Witten to throw to. Not reliable from an injury standpoint? Why? He's played 16 games in 6 of his last 7 seasons. Competition on his team standpoint? Barring injury, Bledsoe is as entrenched as a 2006 starter as any QB in the league. You don't really think Parcells is about to put Romo or Henson in there do you? Crappy O-line... meh... I suppose, but Bledsoe was a top-8 QB last year and has TO this year. I see this as a very good pick in round 12.The 'you only have one backup QB' comment disregards David's statement that although they only drafted 12 rounds, they were to assume 16 rounds, and presumably QB3 would have been taken then.

 
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I guess I'm just concerned b/c you only have one backup QB, and he's not reliable from an injury standpoint, a competition on his team standpoint, and a crappy O-line standpoint. Still, Green is good value in round 6.

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I can't agree with this. I think Bledsoe in the 12th of a redraft is great value with Owens, Glenn, and Witten to throw to. Not reliable from an injury standpoint? Why? He's played 16 games in 6 of his last 7 seasons. Competition on his team standpoint? Barring injury, Bledsoe is as entrenched as a 2006 starter as any QB in the league. You don't really think Parcells is about to put Romo or Henson in there do you? Crappy O-line... meh... I suppose, but Bledsoe was a top-8 QB last year and has TO this year. I see this as a very good pick in round 12.The 'you only have one backup QB' comment disregards David's statement that although they only drafted 12 rounds, they were to assume 16 rounds, and presumably QB3 would have been taken then.

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Bledsoe is an absolute ridiculous value in the 12th. I thought the TO hype would push him a lot higher.
 
Can't believe Jackson made it 2.02. Personally I would've taken him with your 1st pick but you can't hate getting him with the 2nd.

 
Name/Team/Bye/Pick

Quarterbacks

Plummer, Jake DEN (4) - 9.11

Bledsoe, Drew DAL (3) - 12.02

Running Backs

Williams, Carnell TBB (4) - 1.11

Jackson, Steven STL (7) - 2.02

Green, Ahman GBP (6) - 6.02

Wide Receivers

Ward, Hines PIT (4) - 3.11

Jackson, Darrell SEA (5) - 4.02

Horn, Joe NOS (7) - 5.11

Coles, Laveranues NYJ (9) - 7.11

Bruce, Isaac STL (7) - 10.02

Tight Ends

Witten, Jason DAL (3) - 8.02

Defense

Bears, Chicago CHI (7) - 11.11

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With out seeing the draft Ward is the only guy I may not have taken...my guess is that a QB or WR with more upside was available. Ward's yardage numbers were subpar last year(less than 1000) and his TDs kind of saved his overall scoring...not exactly what you like to see from the 35th overall pick in the draft, especially with no convincing reason that his numbers will improve. Your DJax pick kind of saved you at WR.(I have him ranked as my #3 WR this year.)Also, I would have drafted DD instead of Steven Jackson...but I'm higher on DD than most this year.

 
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I guess I'm just concerned b/c you only have one backup QB, and he's not reliable from an injury standpoint, a competition on his team standpoint, and a crappy O-line standpoint. Still, Green is good value in round 6.

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I can't agree with this. I think Bledsoe in the 12th of a redraft is great value with Owens, Glenn, and Witten to throw to. Not reliable from an injury standpoint? Why? He's played 16 games in 6 of his last 7 seasons. Competition on his team standpoint? Barring injury, Bledsoe is as entrenched as a 2006 starter as any QB in the league. You don't really think Parcells is about to put Romo or Henson in there do you? Crappy O-line... meh... I suppose, but Bledsoe was a top-8 QB last year and has TO this year. I see this as a very good pick in round 12.The 'you only have one backup QB' comment disregards David's statement that although they only drafted 12 rounds, they were to assume 16 rounds, and presumably QB3 would have been taken then.

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I don't think you're disagreeing with what Z-Dog meant to say. You're just disagreeing with his typo.I'm pretty sure he meant RB instead of QB.

 
I guess I'm just concerned b/c you only have one backup QB, and he's not reliable from an injury standpoint, a competition on his team standpoint, and a crappy O-line standpoint. Still, Green is good value in round 6.

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I can't agree with this. I think Bledsoe in the 12th of a redraft is great value with Owens, Glenn, and Witten to throw to. Not reliable from an injury standpoint? Why? He's played 16 games in 6 of his last 7 seasons. Competition on his team standpoint? Barring injury, Bledsoe is as entrenched as a 2006 starter as any QB in the league. You don't really think Parcells is about to put Romo or Henson in there do you? Crappy O-line... meh... I suppose, but Bledsoe was a top-8 QB last year and has TO this year. I see this as a very good pick in round 12.The 'you only have one backup QB' comment disregards David's statement that although they only drafted 12 rounds, they were to assume 16 rounds, and presumably QB3 would have been taken then.

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I don't think you're disagreeing with what Z-Dog meant to say. You're just disagreeing with his typo.I'm pretty sure he meant RB instead of QB.

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Ah, I see what you mean. Those comments would make much more sense talking about Green than Bledsoe, and they were in the RB paragraph. Thank you. I didn't see how Z-Dog could be saying about Bledsoe what he was saying. :)
 
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I guess I'm just concerned b/c you only have one backup QB, and he's not reliable from an injury standpoint, a competition on his team standpoint, and a crappy O-line standpoint. Still, Green is good value in round 6.

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I can't agree with this. I think Bledsoe in the 12th of a redraft is great value with Owens, Glenn, and Witten to throw to. Not reliable from an injury standpoint? Why? He's played 16 games in 6 of his last 7 seasons. Competition on his team standpoint? Barring injury, Bledsoe is as entrenched as a 2006 starter as any QB in the league. You don't really think Parcells is about to put Romo or Henson in there do you? Crappy O-line... meh... I suppose, but Bledsoe was a top-8 QB last year and has TO this year. I see this as a very good pick in round 12.The 'you only have one backup QB' comment disregards David's statement that although they only drafted 12 rounds, they were to assume 16 rounds, and presumably QB3 would have been taken then.

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Typo on my part - should have said RB, not QB. :bag:

 
Can't believe Jackson made it 2.02.  Personally I would've taken him with your 1st pick but you can't hate getting him with the 2nd.

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I agree with picking jackson at 1.11 ....... Im not sure what was left but Williams seems to be a bit of a reach for me, just not sure that he is a #1 RB.
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They're not experts if Jackson was still on the board at 1.11, not to mention 2.02Anyone who believes that David Dodds (or any of the other guys there) is an expert, however, should definitely read this week's TMQ. And that group of "experts" should send cards of thanks to Mel Kiper.

This is not to insult Dodds, who is obviously a very nice guy, and who (in my opinion) did a great job of drafting a team here. It's just that the idea of expertise in fantasy football is laughable--so long as everyone stays updated on who's injured, who's starting, etc., the playing field is extraordinarily level. Expertise is defined by an extreme ability above that of normal laypeople--NBA players are experts at playing basketball, and would beat your average recreational ballplayer 100 times out of 100 in a pickup game. An "expert" fantasy football player would be lucky to win 12% of the time in a 10-person league full of guys who are knowledgeable to simply stay up-to-date on who's hurt and who's not, who's starting and who's not, and how those players have performed over the last couple years--a description which accurately describes tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of aficionados.

Actually, the single most important trait of successful FF players is simply the ability to sucker people into bad trades. More winners come from that than anything else.

 
Expertise is defined by an extreme ability above that of normal laypeople--NBA players are experts at playing basketball, and would beat your average recreational ballplayer 100 times out of 100 in a pickup game.  An "expert" fantasy football player would be lucky to win 12% of the time in a 10-person league full of guys who are knowledgeable to simply stay up-to-date on who's hurt and who's not, who's starting and who's not, and how those players have performed over the last couple years--a description which accurately describes tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of aficionados.

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That's not how I'd define expertise. There are definitely such things as expert poker players, even though, as with fantasy football, an expert would be lucky to win 12% of the time in a 10-person Turbo NLHE SNG full of guys familiar with basic poker tourney concepts.Some things just involve more luck than other things.

I think a better definition of expertise would specify the top X% of the population to be experts -- e.g., the top 1% of fantasy football enthusiasts would qualify as experts just by virtue of being in the top 1%, even if they only have a very slight advantage over someone who's barely in the top 25%.

JMHO. Interesting hijack.

 
an expert would be lucky to win 12% of the time in a 10-person Turbo NLHE SNG full of guys familiar with basic poker tourney concepts

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I'd disagree with this on an empirical basis. Unless turbo means the blinds go up every ten seconds or so, an expert poker player playing against a bunch of guys familiar with basic tourney concepts should expect to win around 20% of the time, or 100% more than a random chance. In fantasy football, that expectation is much lower.I think your definition of expertise is very useful in some areas--when you're asking for an expert electrician, or an expert on immigration law, all you're really looking for is someone who has attained a level of knowledge that one might define as expertise.

In competitive arenas, however, such as chess, basketball, online video gaming, etc... expertise is generally defined as the ability to win in those competitions at a much higher rate than most normal enthusiasts in the competition. That simply isn't the case in fantasy football, which is why the idea of expertise in fantasy football is so laughable. The idea of expertise in football playing, coaching, coordinating, etc. obviously is not so laughable.

 
an expert would be lucky to win 12% of the time in a 10-person Turbo NLHE SNG full of guys familiar with basic poker tourney concepts

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I'd disagree with this on an empirical basis. Unless turbo means the blinds go up every ten seconds or so, an expert poker player playing against a bunch of guys familiar with basic tourney concepts should expect to win around 20% of the time, or 100% more than a random chance.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We can change it to fixed-limit triple draw lowball and it'd probably be accurate with the blinds going up only every five minutes. But that wasn't really my point. ;) Edit: A better example might be in blackjack. An expert who makes optimal strategy deviations based on the count might win 44% of the hands he's dealt, while somebody who just sits there following a basic strategy chart might win 43% of the hands he's dealt. That's a very small advantage, percentage-wise. But one guy is an expert while the other guy is just some donkey with a chart. (The greater monetary advantage would come from knowing when to vary one's bet rather than from knowing when to deviate from basic strategy; but that's not my point, either.)

 
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Can't believe Jackson made it 2.02.  Personally I would've taken him with your 1st pick but you can't hate getting him with the 2nd.

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I agree with picking jackson at 1.11 ....... Im not sure what was left but Williams seems to be a bit of a reach for me, just not sure that he is a #1 RB.
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They're not experts if Jackson was still on the board at 1.11, not to mention 2.02Anyone who believes that David Dodds (or any of the other guys there) is an expert, however, should definitely read this week's TMQ. And that group of "experts" should send cards of thanks to Mel Kiper.

This is not to insult Dodds, who is obviously a very nice guy, and who (in my opinion) did a great job of drafting a team here. It's just that the idea of expertise in fantasy football is laughable--so long as everyone stays updated on who's injured, who's starting, etc., the playing field is extraordinarily level. Expertise is defined by an extreme ability above that of normal laypeople--NBA players are experts at playing basketball, and would beat your average recreational ballplayer 100 times out of 100 in a pickup game. An "expert" fantasy football player would be lucky to win 12% of the time in a 10-person league full of guys who are knowledgeable to simply stay up-to-date on who's hurt and who's not, who's starting and who's not, and how those players have performed over the last couple years--a description which accurately describes tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of aficionados.

Actually, the single most important trait of successful FF players is simply the ability to sucker people into bad trades. More winners come from that than anything else.

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"They're not experts if Jackson was still on the board at 1.11, not to mention 2.02"That's a matter of opinion. It's hardly fact, which seems to be the basis for your argument.

Experts do exist. And no they aren't the talking heads on ESPN. Experts working for NFL teams. Having non-NFL "experts" suck at projecting the draft, is flawed. They're not experts. If you're an expert talent evaluator, you're not working at ESPN. That doesn't mean experts don't exist.

As for 12%? That's just pulling numbers out of thin air. You really think a statistically analysis of WCOFF would result in the best players having a 2% edge year in year out?

I don’t buy that.

 
Drafted from the 11th hole of a 12 team league.

Rules: Start 1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK and 1 Def.

Mock Draft is 12 rounds, but we were suppose to assume we had 16 picks (ie some teams did not add PK, Def, a 2nd QB, etc)

Pass yards = 1 pt per 20 yards passing

Pass TDs = 4 pts

Interceptions = -1 pts

Rush/Receive yards = 1 pt per 10 yards

Rush/Receive TDs = 6 pts

Kickers get 3 per FG and 1 per EP

Defense is TDs, sacks, interceptions, and fumbles only

Here is the team I drafted today:

Name/Team/Bye/Pick

Quarterbacks

Plummer, Jake DEN (4) - 9.11

Bledsoe, Drew DAL (3) - 12.02

Running Backs

Williams, Carnell TBB (4) - 1.11

Jackson, Steven STL (7) - 2.02

Green, Ahman GBP (6) - 6.02

Wide Receivers

Ward, Hines PIT (4) - 3.11

Jackson, Darrell SEA (5) - 4.02

Horn, Joe NOS (7) - 5.11

Coles, Laveranues NYJ (9) - 7.11

Bruce, Isaac STL (7) - 10.02

Tight Ends

Witten, Jason DAL (3) - 8.02

Defense

Bears, Chicago CHI (7) - 11.11

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Obviously, RB gets pretty thin by the 11th pick, and they choices seem reasonable. I am a homer, but I think this is finally SJax' year.I LOVE 3 of your WR picks (DJax, Horn, and Coles) All had down years, and all are capable of top 10-15 numbers, with DJAX being top 5 potential.

 
Can't believe Jackson made it 2.02.  Personally I would've taken him with your 1st pick but you can't hate getting him with the 2nd.

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I agree with picking jackson at 1.11 ....... Im not sure what was left but Williams seems to be a bit of a reach for me, just not sure that he is a #1 RB.
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They're not experts if Jackson was still on the board at 1.11, not to mention 2.02Anyone who believes that David Dodds (or any of the other guys there) is an expert, however, should definitely read this week's TMQ. And that group of "experts" should send cards of thanks to Mel Kiper.

This is not to insult Dodds, who is obviously a very nice guy, and who (in my opinion) did a great job of drafting a team here. It's just that the idea of expertise in fantasy football is laughable--so long as everyone stays updated on who's injured, who's starting, etc., the playing field is extraordinarily level. Expertise is defined by an extreme ability above that of normal laypeople--NBA players are experts at playing basketball, and would beat your average recreational ballplayer 100 times out of 100 in a pickup game. An "expert" fantasy football player would be lucky to win 12% of the time in a 10-person league full of guys who are knowledgeable to simply stay up-to-date on who's hurt and who's not, who's starting and who's not, and how those players have performed over the last couple years--a description which accurately describes tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of aficionados.

Actually, the single most important trait of successful FF players is simply the ability to sucker people into bad trades. More winners come from that than anything else.

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Well put. :goodposting:
 
Fantasy football is obviously based on a lot of speculation, whether it be from previous performance, gut feeling, or the players situation. No one can predict with great accuracy how a player will do year in and year out. The "expertise" comes from taking the best value each round, and knowing when to pull the trigger on Top TE, rookie sleeper prospects, and trades (etc...).

I speculate that S. Jax will be a monster this year. I have him rated higher than Caddy. That's just my gut feeling. So, I love the value you got there. Same goes for D Jax, I just think he's in for a big year based on how he perfored when healthy, and the fact that he has a better #2 WR this year to prevent some of the double teams.

Not sold on Caddy, I had him last year and loved it when he was hot, but I'm worried about the wear and tear already. If he can hold up all year, he'll be top 10 for sure. Alstott being gone is a plus too.

Bledsoe was a steal. He has a lot of weapons and it pretty durable. Same goes for Plummer.

You don't have the home run hitters, but solid from top to bottom. Hard to get a home run hitter at 1.11, unless you take a WR.

 
Experts do exist. And no they aren't the talking heads on ESPN. Experts working for NFL teams. Having non-NFL "experts" suck at projecting the draft, is flawed. They're not experts. If you're an expert talent evaluator, you're not working at ESPN. That doesn't mean experts don't exist.

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You're not even close to the point here. Of course there are expert talent evaluators out there. Of course most of them work in the NFL.That has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that "expertise" at fantasy football is an impossible concept to support, and meaningless as a description.

 
Great picks in green.  Bad picks in red.

Quarterbacks

Plummer, Jake DEN (4) - 9.11

Bledsoe, Drew DAL (3) - 12.02

Running Backs

Williams, Carnell TBB (4) - 1.11

Jackson, Steven STL (7) - 2.02

Green, Ahman GBP (6) - 6.02

Wide Receivers

Ward, Hines PIT (4) - 3.11

Jackson, Darrell SEA (5) - 4.02

Horn, Joe NOS (7) - 5.11

Coles, Laveranues NYJ (9) - 7.11

Bruce, Isaac STL (7) - 10.02

Tight Ends

Witten, Jason DAL (3) - 8.02

Defense

Bears, Chicago CHI (7) - 11.11

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:shock: When the hell did you get back?????

Just kidding - I'm glad - I respect your fantasy opinions a great deal, and it's good to have you back. :thumbup:

 

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