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How do I find out information on 'style' of a defense? (1 Viewer)

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Let me explain. I read an article earlier this week that quoted Chris Johnson saying that some games he'll have more touches and some games Lendale will. The article stated that when TEN plays smaller, quicker defenses Lendale would be featured more. When they are playing bigger, slower defenses, then CJ will be featured more.

The question is, where do you find this information (the makeup of a particular defense)? The reason I ask is that I have both CJ and LenDale and it would be useful to know what Fisher knows. They played JAC this past week and they are a physical defense and that's probably why CJ started and played more. This weekend they play CIN. I'm wondering how that D would be categorized.

 
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Check out the IDP forum. Also, there are some FBG articles like Reading the Defense and such that discuss general defensive philosophies which would be helpful for what you are looking for.

 
Let me explain. I read an article earlier this week that quoted Chris Johnson saying that some games he'll have more touches and some games Lendale will. The article stated that when TEN plays smaller, quicker defenses Lendale would be featured more. When they are playing bigger, slower defenses, then CJ will be featured more.The question is, where do you find this information (the makeup of a particular defense)? The reason I ask is that I have both CJ and LenDale and it would be useful to know what Fisher knows. They played JAC this past week and they are a physical defense and that's probably why CJ started and played more. This weekend they play CIN. I'm wondering how that D would be categorized.
Thanks Jayrod. There are definitely some general scheme thoughts for each team pinned in the IDP forum, among some other good discussion. Feel free to post questions like this in the IDP forum as well. We're not much for team defense discussion, but any discussion of NFL defensive concepts, specific defensive players, etc is very welcome there.How to characterize the Cincinnati defense? I'll spare you from my usual lengthy rant, but much of the problem with the Bengal defense is that it can't be characterized as anything -- there's no identity, no single leader whatsoever. Mike Zimmer would like it to be an aggressive, attacking the gaps in the front seven, press coverage on the outside with a mix of line games and blitzes on passing downs.However, the front seven doesn't do anything well. There's potential for good all-around play on the ends, but all you'll see is a smattering of pressure. The defensive tackle rotation is inconsistent at best. Ideally, Zimmer would have a space-eating physical nose tackle and a disruptive three-technique. He's got neither. So, much of the run defense is left to the linebackers, led by Dhani Jones. Yes, that Dhani Jones. None of the backers are particularly physical; neither are the linemen. You'd have to classify this group as a smaller, quicker defense that isn't particularly quick. And tackling continues to be a major issue across the entire unit.The upshot is, this defense is so mediocre that either play could and would be successful against this group. Johnson can easily outflank the backers, White should be able to move between the tackles and run through the arm tackling of the middle of the Bengal defense.
 
Let me explain. I read an article earlier this week that quoted Chris Johnson saying that some games he'll have more touches and some games Lendale will. The article stated that when TEN plays smaller, quicker defenses Lendale would be featured more. When they are playing bigger, slower defenses, then CJ will be featured more.The question is, where do you find this information (the makeup of a particular defense)? The reason I ask is that I have both CJ and LenDale and it would be useful to know what Fisher knows. They played JAC this past week and they are a physical defense and that's probably why CJ started and played more. This weekend they play CIN. I'm wondering how that D would be categorized.
Thanks Jayrod. There are definitely some general scheme thoughts for each team pinned in the IDP forum, among some other good discussion. Feel free to post questions like this in the IDP forum as well. We're not much for team defense discussion, but any discussion of NFL defensive concepts, specific defensive players, etc is very welcome there.How to characterize the Cincinnati defense? I'll spare you from my usual lengthy rant, but much of the problem with the Bengal defense is that it can't be characterized as anything -- there's no identity, no single leader whatsoever. Mike Zimmer would like it to be an aggressive, attacking the gaps in the front seven, press coverage on the outside with a mix of line games and blitzes on passing downs.However, the front seven doesn't do anything well. There's potential for good all-around play on the ends, but all you'll see is a smattering of pressure. The defensive tackle rotation is inconsistent at best. Ideally, Zimmer would have a space-eating physical nose tackle and a disruptive three-technique. He's got neither. So, much of the run defense is left to the linebackers, led by Dhani Jones. Yes, that Dhani Jones. None of the backers are particularly physical; neither are the linemen. You'd have to classify this group as a smaller, quicker defense that isn't particularly quick. And tackling continues to be a major issue across the entire unit.The upshot is, this defense is so mediocre that either play could and would be successful against this group. Johnson can easily outflank the backers, White should be able to move between the tackles and run through the arm tackling of the middle of the Bengal defense.
Thanks, Jene. Definitely good info here. Another observation is that the bigger McClain had good success against the CIN D, whereas the faster Ray Rice struggled somewhat (2.9 YPC). Could that bode well for LenDale doing better than CJ this weekend?
 
Let me explain. I read an article earlier this week that quoted Chris Johnson saying that some games he'll have more touches and some games Lendale will. The article stated that when TEN plays smaller, quicker defenses Lendale would be featured more. When they are playing bigger, slower defenses, then CJ will be featured more.The question is, where do you find this information (the makeup of a particular defense)? The reason I ask is that I have both CJ and LenDale and it would be useful to know what Fisher knows. They played JAC this past week and they are a physical defense and that's probably why CJ started and played more. This weekend they play CIN. I'm wondering how that D would be categorized.
Thanks Jayrod. There are definitely some general scheme thoughts for each team pinned in the IDP forum, among some other good discussion. Feel free to post questions like this in the IDP forum as well. We're not much for team defense discussion, but any discussion of NFL defensive concepts, specific defensive players, etc is very welcome there.How to characterize the Cincinnati defense? I'll spare you from my usual lengthy rant, but much of the problem with the Bengal defense is that it can't be characterized as anything -- there's no identity, no single leader whatsoever. Mike Zimmer would like it to be an aggressive, attacking the gaps in the front seven, press coverage on the outside with a mix of line games and blitzes on passing downs.However, the front seven doesn't do anything well. There's potential for good all-around play on the ends, but all you'll see is a smattering of pressure. The defensive tackle rotation is inconsistent at best. Ideally, Zimmer would have a space-eating physical nose tackle and a disruptive three-technique. He's got neither. So, much of the run defense is left to the linebackers, led by Dhani Jones. Yes, that Dhani Jones. None of the backers are particularly physical; neither are the linemen. You'd have to classify this group as a smaller, quicker defense that isn't particularly quick. And tackling continues to be a major issue across the entire unit.The upshot is, this defense is so mediocre that either play could and would be successful against this group. Johnson can easily outflank the backers, White should be able to move between the tackles and run through the arm tackling of the middle of the Bengal defense.
Thanks, Jene. Definitely good info here. Another observation is that the bigger McClain had good success against the CIN D, whereas the faster Ray Rice struggled somewhat (2.9 YPC). Could that bode well for LenDale doing better than CJ this weekend?
Maybe.Worth noting that Rice was 10-41 in the first half. Looked like the Bengals may have made a couple of halftime adjustments in that game, mostly putting eight in the box, which hurt Rice early in the second half. After Dhani Jones went out with an injury, Corey Mays was a total non-factor in the middle and the Bengal defense was on the field for 25 snaps (discounting kneels and adding plays wiped out by penalty in the fourth quarter) when McClain finished them off. The defense as a whole spent over 36:00 on the field in that game, and nearly 25:00 of the 30:00 second half minutes.I'd bet on both having a better than average chance at good games this weekend. It's a very similar matchup to last week -- Bengal offense will have to find a way to have extended drives against a great defense and the Bengal defense will be facing a run oriented offense. The only difference will be that this game is in Cincinnati. I'm not worried about the VY issue; I think the Titans are a bigger threat in many respects with Collins at QB.
 

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