How does Brees signing shake up the draft? (1 Viewer)

[jchap31]

Saints will trade down and nab A.J. Hawk. Mario Williams is a bluff, since they have Charles Grant and Will Smith. We haven't had a stud LB since the Dome Patrol Days.

 

[saintfool]

Gotta think about which teams might be interested in trading up for Leinhart. Jets, Oakland, Minnesota, Baltimore, Buffalo, Arizona, Cleveland, Green Bay, San Fransisco, or Detroit. With the Jets, Oakland, Minnesota, and Baltimore being the most likely candidates. At pick 17, Minnesota may look a little low to compete but they have that extra second round pick.

ta-da!

Minnesota is the only one that makes sense as the others will either wait it out in hopes one (probably) drops and the others already have their QB in place, be it long or short term.

right. at worst, most of those teams can offer to swap places and a later round draft pick. say a 4th rounder?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

if you draft, say, the OT of the future at 1.2 in D'Brick then you have two young OT's to protect the delicate mister brees. he'll be fine playing behind the saints OL, regardless. it's not like he's past his prime. he's, what, 27? he appears to be heading into the season healthy enough. it's not like he's going to miss camp or anything.

it's a fine move. they get an effective QB. they have leverage in the draft. they save some $$ to boot.

I just think the allure of having Brick and Brown at the tackles for the next few years is too good to pass up. Especially for a recovering Brees AND McAllister.

 

[donkey]

My extremely down and dirty mock, based on the last couple days of activity:

1. Houston - Bush

2. New Orleans - Ferguson

3. Tennessee - Leinart

4. NYJ - Mario

5. GB - Hawk

6. SF - Vernon Davis

7. Oak - Young

8. Buff - Winston Justice

9. Det - Jimmy Williams

10. Arizona - Michael Huff

11. St. Louis - Tye Hill

12. Cleveland - Haloti Ngata

13. Baltimore - Jay Cutler

14. Philadelphia - Tamba Hali

15. Atlanta - Donte Whitner/Jason Allen

16. Miami - Chad Jackson

17. Minnesota - Chad Greenway

18. Dallas - Donte Whitner/Jason Allen

19. San Diego - Manny Lawson

20. Kansas City - Broderick Bunkley

21. New England - Ernie Sims

22. Denver - DeAngelo Williams

23. Tampa - Marcus McNeill

24. Cincinnati - Gabe Watson

25. NYG - Bobby Carpenter

26. Chicago - Leonard Pope

27. Carolina - Lendale White

28. Jacksonville - Kamerion Wimbley

29. Denver - Santonio Holmes

30. Indianapolis - Laurence Maroney

31. Seattle - Ko Simpson

32. Pittsburgh - Nick Mangold

As a Clemson Alum would love to see T.Hill go at 11. He is a great kid.

 

[saintfool]

if you draft, say, the OT of the future at 1.2 in D'Brick then you have two young OT's to protect the delicate mister brees. he'll be fine playing behind the saints OL, regardless. it's not like he's past his prime. he's, what, 27? he appears to be heading into the season healthy enough. it's not like he's going to miss camp or anything.

it's a fine move. they get an effective QB. they have leverage in the draft. they save some $$ to boot.

I just think the allure of having Brick and Brown at the tackles for the next few years is too good to pass up. Especially for a recovering Brees AND McAllister.

i agree. it makes a great deal of sense. i see only 2 players to target, if i'm the saints front office. d'brick and hawk. if minnesota makes an offer, featuring a 1st/2nd rounder then I totally jump on it. there are some solid LB's that can be had later in the draft. if we can trade down a few slots to grab hawk and grab a 3/4th rounder then i'm all over that too. however, if i am forced to pick 1.2 then d'brick is the choice and i'm very happy with it.

 

[Winston Smith]

if you draft, say, the OT of the future at 1.2 in D'Brick then you have two young OT's to protect the delicate mister brees. he'll be fine playing behind the saints OL, regardless. it's not like he's past his prime. he's, what, 27? he appears to be heading into the season healthy enough. it's not like he's going to miss camp or anything.

it's a fine move. they get an effective QB. they have leverage in the draft. they save some $$ to boot.

I just think the allure of having Brick and Brown at the tackles for the next few years is too good to pass up. Especially for a recovering Brees AND McAllister.

I agree, but I think a pretty decent T is going to be around at pick 34. The Saints currently have one of the worst 3 sets of LB in the NFL, and drafting an AJ Hawk, along with their recent signing of Scott Fujita, would help turn that around.That said, I would be ecstatic to have D'Brick.

 

[jonessed]

Brees' deal has an $8MM signing bonus and a $12MM option due in Spring 2007. Unless Brees plays lights out he is going to be restructured or let go after this year. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that NO might still get Leinart

 

[saintfool]

Brees' deal has an $8MM signing bonus and a $12MM option due in Spring 2007. Unless Brees plays lights out he is going to be restructured or let go after this year. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that NO might still get Leinart

According to the AP, it's $10 million up front and $12 million next year. linkSo it's player or team option though? That makes a huge difference, I think.

 

[msommer]

What is SD going to do for QB2 - Do they really believe in Feeley?

 

[imeimex]

With the signing of Brees, wouldn't a trade down to 4 and the drafting of Vernon Davis make some sense. See if Davis really is Antonio Gates on crack.

I personally wouldn't do it, they have a lot of needs and I think Hawk or Ferguson make the most sense. I wonder how different people would feel about Vernon Davis if he had a 4.5 instead of a 4.38. I still think most people put to much stock in the combines.

 

[imeimex]

Drew Brees - QB - Saints

ProFootballTalk.com reports the Drew Brees contract amounts to a one-year deal with a big option.

They say the deal calls for a $12 million bonus due prior to the 2007 season on top of his $8 million signing bonus. Thus, a one-year deal for $10 million is the cheap option, not much more than the franchise tag the Chargers could have slapped him with before he hit free agency. It presents the Saints with options even if they aren't able to trade the No. 2 pick. Mar. 14 - 8:19 pm et

Source: ProFootballTalk.com

 

[Jason Wood]

As I mentioned in another thread, Clayton was speculating about Mario Williams. He couldn't possibly be SURE they would draft Mario because I guarantee you the Saints aren't sure who they'll draft.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

I still think we (saints) should go fishing to see what picks we could trade down for. We have so many holes on defense & offense, and we can't really think anybody will stay here more than 3-5 years at this point. I'm sure the Saints will fumble this whole thing....like Drew Brees not being healthy come season start.

 

[saintfool]

Interesting quote from Loomis, from the AP story on 3/15:

General manager Mickey Loomis declined to rule out using the Saints' No. 2 overall pick in the draft on a quarterback but added, "Obviously, we've got our quarterback right here."

"I don't want to take anything out of play," Loomis said. "It definitely gives us a flexibility that we don't have to take a quarterback."

Loomis said the Saints hope to fill most of their needs through free agency and then take the best player available in the draft, which was what they did with the selection Deuce McAllister, even though Ricky Williams was already on the roster and coming off a strong second season in the league.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

How is McAllister's rehab going.

Wouldn't it be crazy if the Saints moved up to #1 and took Bush to replace McAllister? They took McAllister when they had Ricky Williams. Oh, the possitilities in this draft are ENDLESS!

 

[saintfool]

How is McAllister's rehab going.

Wouldn't it be crazy if the Saints moved up to #1 and took Bush to replace McAllister? They took McAllister when they had Ricky Williams. Oh, the possitilities in this draft are ENDLESS!

From KFFL... (is that allowed here??Saints | McAllister’s rehab going well

Fri, 3 Feb 2006 05:50:04 -0800

Sheldon Mickles, of the Advocate, reports New Orleans Saints RB Deuce McAllister (knee) said he's about two weeks ahead of schedule in his rehab from knee surgery and expects to be at full speed by the start of training camp in late July. McAllister looked fit and trim, right at his playing weight of 235 pounds. "I've been doing good," said McAllister, who became the franchise's all-time rushing leader three weeks before his right foot got caught in the turf at Lambeau Field and he went down without being hit. "I've been working out and was released to start jogging three weeks ago." McAllister will visit with his doctor in April and if all goes well, McAllister will likely be allowed to begin doing some football-related drills.

I have to agree that this is a great draft for a lot of reasons. I think the emphasis, still, is on the Saints but the Texans could really shake things up.

 

[psychobillies]

ESPN Anaylst John Clayton isnt so sure about the Saints drafting Dabrickshaw. He has recently told ESPN, that without a doubt, the Saints will draft the 6'7 defensive end from NCST. I believe this is the horribly wrong pick. Also, why would the people in New Orleans sign Brees? This is an absolute pointless move towards the franchise. They play in one of the toughest divisions in the entire NFL (Panthers, Bucs, Falcons). Therefore, getting Brees for this year wont win them games this quick. Why not draft a young QB, and ease him into the NFL, and make him your future. No one really knows how many more years Brees can give you, so overall BAD CHOICE by the Saints.

I think that a healthy Brees is better than all of the other QB's in our division(Vick, Delhomme, Simms). No matter how you slice it, that is a good thing for any team.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Saints will trade down and nab A.J. Hawk. Mario Williams is a bluff, since they have Charles Grant and Will Smith. We haven't had a stud LB since the Dome Patrol Days.

:fingerscrossed:

 

[kaso]

I don't know how much input he had from 60-63 when he was offensive end coach/head coach, but there is a history of taking QBs in or near the first:

2001

2. Marques Tuiasosopo, QB Washington

1991

1 Todd Marinovich, QB, USC

1980

1 Marc Wilson, QB, BYU

1968

1 Eldridge Dickey, QB, Tennessee St.

2 Ken Stabler, QB, Alabama

1962

1 Roman Gabriel QB, No. Carolina St

Tuiasosopo was Grudens pick, and there were reports that Gruden had to convince Al to take him there.IMO, Al would rather have the vetern QB come in to run the team, as that has been more of his way. Hostettler, Gannon, Collins, etc... all came in with experience. Now with that said, Davis might throw all that aside and grab Young based solely on his athletic ability. Young or V. Davis... especially with Davis's combine numbers.

And Al has been looking for a TE since Casper retired.

I just hope they go Def.