how does kevin jones stack up against (1 Viewer)

[Jackal]

curious as to how these two stack up against kevin jones

 

[wannabee]

Williams

 

[adrenaline]

Accidently hit view/null vote But I was voting Kevin Jones because he's the most likely to be a starter.

 

[gman8343]

I own all three in one dynasty league Hoping they all stack up great against each other...

 

[Ozymandias]

Kevin Jones has had some success in the NFL; but happened to be playing for a coaching staff that was a train wreck. He is scheduled to be the starter. It's an open question whether he will be a successful running back.

Williams and Addai are still not certain to be starters. They may offer more promise if they are, but it is still an open question whether they will be starters.

 

[Baracuda]

In a one year league, I take KJ. If we're talking about dynasty then I have to order them:

1. Williams

2. Addai

3. KJ

Both Williams and Addai look like they ultimately will be the solution for their teams. On the other side, KJ look so bad last year (and I'm not convinced he's Martz's guy) that if I were picking in a dynasty league, I would roll the dice on the other guys first.

 

[EBF]

I think he was a much better prospect coming out than either Williams or Addai.

 

[AnonymousBob]

He doesn't.

 

[Domination]

You are all fools. Addai is so overrated. He will be this year Arrington. As for Williams, he will be successfull, but this year hew still has to contend with foster. KJ will be able to do the same things as Jackson was able to do in Martz's offense.

 

[AnonymousBob]

You are all fools. Addai is so overrated. He will be this year Arrington. As for Williams, he will be successfull, but this year hew still has to contend with foster. KJ will be able to do the same things as Jackson was able to do in Martz's offense.

Get hurt?

 

[Domination]

Actually I was th smart one tha avoided Arrington. But I figured ti put the warning out tis year about the hype. Just like last year's was about Arington.

 

[tribecalledjeff]

Actually I was th smart one tha avoided Arrington. But I figured ti put the warning out tis year about the hype. Just like last year's was about Arington.

Why do you feel this way about Addai?

 

[jurb26]

I would rank them:

Redraft

Jones

Williams

Addai

Dynasty

Williams

Jones

Addai

 

[Noahs Troopers]

I think he was a much better prospect coming out than either Williams or Addai.

Agree on Addai.Williams was a top 10 prospect, I didn't realize Jones was rated higher, I thought he was a top 20 prospect? Could be wrong, it was a couple years ago.

 

[joffer]

Actually I was th smart one tha avoided Arrington. But I figured ti put the warning out tis year about the hype. Just like last year's was about Arington.

thank god you're here

 

[Rev]

You are all fools. Addai is so overrated. He will be this year Arrington. As for Williams, he will be successfull, but this year hew still has to contend with foster. KJ will be able to do the same things as Jackson was able to do in Martz's offense.

You're going to eat crow in about 8 months, when Addai has become the starter for Indy and is getting about 5 yards/carry. This thread will be a fun one to revisit.

 

[EBF]

Williams was a top 10 prospect, I didn't realize Jones was rated higher, I thought he was a top 20 prospect? Could be wrong, it was a couple years ago.

Williams was the 27th player chosen. Jones was the 30th player chosen. There's not much difference there, but my personal opinion is that Jones was the better prospect. Williams may have better instincts, but Jones has a lot more power, a better build, and similar athletic ability. One of the things that bothers me about DeAngelo is what a squirt he looks like on the field. I know he weighed 217 at the combine, but he only weighed 207 pounds at his Pro Day. More importantly, he just doesn't look like he runs with much authority. Defenders seem to bring him down with relative ease once they get their hands on him. I know he was able to handle a lot of carries at Memphis, but I really wonder whether he'll ever be a full-time starter in the NFL. It doesn't help that the team re-signed Foster, who may actually be the more talented back (I know it's always fashionable to favor the new guy, but these two had pretty similar pedigrees).

Jones has also had some trouble staying healthy, but I think he's the better talent. The downside for him is that the new coaching staff might not like his style and that Calhoun might be good enough to steal touches.

I wouldn't feel very comfortable counting on any of these guys, but I think Jones has the best combination of talent and opportunity. He should start and be fairly productive as long as he stays healthy.

 

[Rev]

One of the things that bothers me about DeAngelo is what a squirt he looks like on the field. I know he weighed 217 at the combine, but he only weighed 207 pounds at his Pro Day. More importantly, he just doesn't look like he runs with much authority. Defenders seem to bring him down with relative ease once they get their hands on him. I know he was able to handle a lot of carries at Memphis, but I really wonder whether he'll ever be a full-time starter in the NFL. It doesn't help that the team re-signed Foster, who may actually be the more talented back (I know it's always fashionable to favor the new guy, but these two had pretty similar pedigrees).

Here's a blurb on Foster's college career: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deshaun_Foster)Foster played at UCLA, where he set a team rushing record for true freshman with 673 yards and 10 touchdowns on 126 carries in 11 games. The next year he spent mostly on the bench with an ankle sprain, but still managed to record 375 yards and 6 scores on 111 carries. As a junior, he led the Bruins with 1,037 yards, wile scoring 13 touchdowns. His final year, he posted 1,109 yards with 12 touchdowns; he had six games of over 100 rushing yards. He set a school record with a 301 yard game against Washington, and tied a record with four touchdowns. He ended his college career in the team top 10 in touchdowns (44), rushing yards (3,194) and points (266).

Thats 1109/12 as a senior

1037/13 as a junior

375/6 as a soph

673/10 as a freshman

Foster's CAREER NFL rushing stats: 377 carries for 1563 yards and 4 TDs

Now let's compare these to DeAngelo's numbers in college:

1964/18 as a senior

1948/22 as a junior

1430/10 as a soph

684/5 as a freshman

Now to me, the two do not have a similar pedigree, especially given the fact that Foster's 4 years in the league have been only marginally successful. As to the idea that defenders easily bring down DeAngelo... I think his YPC speaks against that. It's hard to average over 6 YPC if you're easily tackled.

 

[EBF]

Now to me, the two do not have a similar pedigree, especially given the fact that Foster's 4 years in the league have been only marginally successful.

Pedigree has little to do with college statistics. Jerome Harrison outrushed Laurence Maroney last year by a wide margin. Does that mean Harrison has a better pedigree? Nope.When I say pedigree, I refer to the player's standing as a draft prospect. DeAngelo Williams was the 27th overall pick in 2006. DeShaun Foster was the 34th overall pick in 2002. That's pretty close.

As to the idea that defenders easily bring down DeAngelo... I think his YPC speaks against that. It's hard to average over 6 YPC if you're easily tackled.

He was effective in college. I never said he wasn't. My argument is that his game won't translate as well to the NFL as people might expect. Running against Tennessee-Chattanooga is not quite the same as running against the Pittsburgh Steelers.