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I dont see him with those numbers just because I see him being drafted by either Cleveland (sharing with jamal), Arizona (sharing with edge) or minny (sharing with chester). I see his numbers being pretty pedestrian for the first year atleast.I think eventually he can be very good tho, He has the skillsI can't decide how good this kid will be. It seems if he is ON the field, he really does have the chance to be a special player. Sometimes I think he could be like Steven Jackson, right out of the gate. Just curious, how do you sharks rate this kid? Anyone see him having 1000+ yards and 8-10 TDs this year?
Unless he goes to a significant RBBC situation, numbers less than this would be a disappointment. His talent is high end. However, his situation may preclude him from having the oppprtunities to have high end production.I expect 4.3+ YPC and 8TDs and probably about 20-25 catches. At this point, I wouldn't project attempts.I can't decide how good this kid will be. It seems if he is ON the field, he really does have the chance to be a special player. Sometimes I think he could be like Steven Jackson, right out of the gate. Just curious, how do you sharks rate this kid? Anyone see him having 1000+ yards and 8-10 TDs this year?
That is not based on any production expectation for this year. It is based on the fact that talented young rb's become top of the first round dynasty backs immediately upon getting a full time job and producing.
Crap offenses don't stay crappy when you add a guy like Peterson.
Unless he can play QB and OL while being the RB then I disagree. Of course he will help a bad team but it will take more than just his presence to make a winner out of a loser.
Alright, someone has to say it. Everyone was probably saying the same thing about LT when he was drafted to the Chargers. Peterson will turn any team around with his dynamic playmaking abilities and his infectious attitude.
You got a steal my friend.
I agree with this.
I think the knee-jerk reaction to this is that he runs so upright that running inside in the NFL will become much more difficult. However, from what I remember of him playing at OU - when he engages a defender he doesn't stay as upright and is properly crouched to take hits, or elude them or so on. I think the problem may be that so often people see him running down the sideline or in huge amounts of space becuase of the monstrous number of big gains he's been in that we see him when he's running without defenders attacking him.Colin Dowling said:
We'll see. LT was no where near hyped as much as AD has been when he came out.
I agree 100% at this point.
No doubt. Let's just go ahead and give him the MVP and a Pro Bowl appearance. Hell, maybe we should put him on the HOF ballot right now! LOL!!! The higher this guy gets propped up the further he has to fall down. Think Benson from 2 years ago. Not comparing the attitudes just the hype surrounding them. It makes no sense. He's done nothing in the NFL yet. Why put unreasonable expectations out there before he is even drafted? Now if he lands in a good situation then we have reason to get excited from a FF perspective. Just don't tell LT he's being compared to a rookie.
LT was a dominant collegiate player in a second tier conference. Peterson's been dominant for one college season, 2 years ago. Nothing to compare him with LT at this point.
In 2000, before LT, SD was 30 in team offense. The next year (obviously adding Brees as well) they were 15 (though they never really moved up until Gates joined and Brees really came into his own)Of course, part of that was LT's ability to catch the ball and get out in the flat, which helped them create offense even with a subpar line. Peterson seems to bring that to the table too, so he could have a dramatic effect on a crappy offense, if he indeed lives up to the hype. (That's an invaluable asset behind a subpar line, and let's be honest is a big reason Houston should have considered VY).
Look at his yards per carry. It's nearly the same all 3 years (5.7, 5.1, 5.4). In 7 games last season he had 1100 total yards and 13 TDs. In his Freshman year, he had 1900 yards and 15 TDs - that's only 2 more TDs in nearly twice the games. His rush yards per game was 148 Freshman year, 145 Junior year. I submit to you Peterson was just as dominant in 06 as he was in 04.And let's not forget his "non-dominant" Sophmore year with a high ankle sprain where he only gained 1100 yards and scored 14 TDs in approx. 9 games.
I know, why compare AD to a retired linebacker?
I guess we should be comparing AP to Deuce and Eddie according to NFL.com rather than LT2:Compares To: Deuce McAllister, New Orleans … McAllister is a much better receiver, but both are blessed with exceptional size and speed. Peterson is a punishing runner, but might be best served trying to avoid defenders rather than overpower them, considering that he has had several big injuries that have affected his play. He runs more like Eddie George between the tackles, getting too tall in his stance, but with his lower body power it is evident he can break tackles, gaining 71 percentage of his yardage after initial contact.
I was making the Eddie comparison before NFL.com was.
I actually already think he is a top 5-8 RB in a dynasty league.After LT, Jackson, LJ, and Bush i think he is worth the risk. So i'd rank him as my #5 RB.He's a good enough back to excel in every system. I expect him to quickly become one of the top 5-8 dynasty RBs. After the handful of elite guys, he's as good as anyone.
But let's not pretend that system isn't important. Jamal Lewis was a great back for a few years in Baltimore, but he never put up truly elite FF stats because Baltimore had weak supporting talent. Think he would've done better on the Seahawks, Rams, or Chiefs?
I wouldn't...not a lot of guys have a few 1800 yards rushing seasons underneath the belt....I'd at least wait to see where he lands before setting such lofty goals. Basically, I'll take the under.
I'm definitely taking the under on that prediction.
thats why we all avoided Barry Sanders when the Lions drafted him.
So now we are comparing AP to Barry Sanders? I didn't know there was another RB that was comparable to BS. Now he was truly an exception to the rule. Walter Payton was too, though he finally got a SB when CHI got a DEF. I am not ready to compare AP to these guys, he has a lot to prove to the league before we can annoint him with comparisons to these legendary RBs.
Tomlinson has a big advantage over Peterson in terms of body type and lateral quickness. Peterson is agile for a tall back, but he's basically a straight line runner.
A few 1700+ rushing seasons might have been a bit of an overstatement, but i think as far as rushing yards he'll lead the league a couple times during his career.So give him an 1,800 yard rushing season and a couple 1,600+ seasons over his career, i don't think that is going to be hard for him to achieve if he avoids major injuries.I really think some people are forgetting what a beast this guy is due to him missing time last year. There aren't many better pure runners in the NFL.
For every guy like Gore or Tomlinson, there are several guys like Cadillac Williams, Willis McGahee, Ronnie Brown, and Kevin Jones. Situation matters. A good supporting cast = higher YPC and more TD opportunities.
Were you trying to make a point? What does Gore leading the weaker NFC in rushing have to do with this thread?
