Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Watched the game, but was out of the country doing so and haven't heard any feedback yet. What was the consensus? Did the game live up to the hype?
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How good was the Pats-Colts game? (1 Viewer)
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Easily worth the price of admission.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Yea....I watched the game sick, with no audio, and on a laptop. I thought it was pretty good, but it definitely wasn't a good environment for me to really figure out how good the game was, or what the reactions were.
twitch
Footballguy
Loved the outcome, but I was genuinely bummed about the officiating. Not at all complaining about a win. Because its a win. But as a Pats fan in this game, you felt cheated and helpless. Otherwise, there were alot of dropped passes, not many good drives early. The game had little momentum or flow. Strange game. But the drama was definitely there.
Road Warriors
Footballguy
I thought it was great to see two teams with top 5 offenses and defenses face off. Neither team has a true weakness. I think it did live up to the hype, because both teams came to play, they're both very evenly matched and it came down to handful of plays being made in the end, on both sides of the ball.
I agree that the flags took something from the game, but in all, it was one of the most intense regular season games I recall in a long time.
I agree that the flags took something from the game, but in all, it was one of the most intense regular season games I recall in a long time.
Phlash
Footballguy
Come on twitch, its comments like these that make people hate the Patriots.The game was stupid but we won. Like Belichick said, winning feels good, lets leave it at that =]
Sweeper
Footballguy
It was an exciting game and I would even go so far as to say one of the most exciting games this season. Part of the reason why it was so good is because of who played.
If it was the same result from a Bills/Jets game, it wouldn't have been nearly as exciting. But watching two of the best teams in the NFL play a very physical game that was up for grabs right up until the last few minutes kept me on the edge of my seat all game.
It's not the breakout game that ends up 48-45, as we were all expecting but it certainly lived up to all the hype.
If it was the same result from a Bills/Jets game, it wouldn't have been nearly as exciting. But watching two of the best teams in the NFL play a very physical game that was up for grabs right up until the last few minutes kept me on the edge of my seat all game.
It's not the breakout game that ends up 48-45, as we were all expecting but it certainly lived up to all the hype.
twitch
Footballguy
Youre right, my bad. This isnt the 'venting' thread? Couldnt help but voice my opinion, but tried to make it clear I wasnt complaining. Just being honest. I thought it was a very good game. I didnt think it was top 5 of the year for pure football. Top 5 drama because of the 'importance' of the game, as regular season games go.
3C's
Footballguy
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
Since I don't watch pre-game (or mid-week) talking-head garbage, I can't really speak as to the hype, except in my own mind. As far as I'm concerned, it lived up to the billing. Both came to play, both defenses were on their game and it was close the whole time. I don't think anyone could have kept either team in check except each other. I think they're easily the two best teams in the league, and neither fell apart under the pressure.
Great game. And for what it's worth, the officiating was on par with every other game. In a close contest, fans sometimes obsess over perceived bad calls. It wasn't perfect, but nothing out of the ordinary.
Great game. And for what it's worth, the officiating was on par with every other game. In a close contest, fans sometimes obsess over perceived bad calls. It wasn't perfect, but nothing out of the ordinary.
twitch
Footballguy
Not going to dwell on this. Its not nessecary. But NE's been playing football for nearly 50 years. But they set a franchise record for penalty yards at nearly 150, and there was nothing 'ordinary' about it.
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
IMO it was a great game; especially the end 
A lot of people may have been dissapointed that there wasn't more scoring, but both defenses played well and the game was played with a playoff intensity from start to finish.
I was very impressed with Indys defense and their game planning and I was impressed with the way NE hung in there even when it didn't appear to be their day. Obviously the game could have gone either way and it was close the whole way so I thought it was terrific
A lot of people may have been dissapointed that there wasn't more scoring, but both defenses played well and the game was played with a playoff intensity from start to finish.
I was very impressed with Indys defense and their game planning and I was impressed with the way NE hung in there even when it didn't appear to be their day. Obviously the game could have gone either way and it was close the whole way so I thought it was terrific
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Dvorak
Footballguy
Agreed. Colts-Pats wasn't even the best 4 o'clock game last week. Browns-Seahawks was much more exciting.It was a good game, but not even the game of the week.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Ya, I thought the defenses played well. When NE needed some plays down the stretch, their defense came though. I think one player made the difference between last year and this year and it's clearly Randy Moss.Down by 10 points with under 10 mins to play, Brady basically just throws up a ball that looked like a punt and Randy Moss comes down with it inside the 10 yard line. That's not luck, it's Randy Moss but without him the Patriots lose this game by 10 plus points.These two teams look destine to play again, I look forward to the rematch and we'll see if the lack of running game hurts the Patriots in the cold weather. In playoff games, usually the team that can run the ball is the team that wins but the Pats passing game is exceptional so general rules really don't apply to them.I do feel that Indy's overall game plan is the right way to beat the Pats. You have to pressure Brady AND you have to run the ball on them. The Colts proved they could do both so that gives them a shot when they get some of their other players back that didn't play this past weekend.The undefeated season for the Patriots looks a lot smoother now. They have to play Baltimore who looks like a beaten team and the one game that may be interesting is Pittsburgh but at home.As I said before the game, lets just play this game to decide who gets home field advantage and then press the Fast Forward button to the AFC Championship game to see who gets to go to the Super Bowl beccause everything else really doesn't matter.IMO it was a great game; especially the endA lot of people may have been dissapointed that there wasn't more scoring, but both defenses played well and the game was played with a playoff intensity from start to finish.I was very impressed with Indys defense and their game planning and I was impressed with the way NE hung in there even when it didn't appear to be their day. Obviously the game could have gone either way and it was close the whole way so I thought it was terrific
Brother Mouzone
Footballguy
Browns games are always exciting.Agreed. Colts-Pats wasn't even the best 4 o'clock game last week. Browns-Seahawks was much more exciting.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
There were a couple of great plays and the drama of the two top teams battling it out was good, but overall I thought the game was pretty mediocre. Neither team really brought their A game IMO. You have to give some credit to the defenses for playing well, but I think that both offenses just looked like they weren't clicking. WRs dropping balls all over the place, a few bad passes, etc.
((Morpheus))
Footballguy
They don't have a chance.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
Well, you can argue that playing in the dome was tough on the Pats, and they made mistakes they wouldn't normally make. But the calls weren't outlandish. I don't think you can automatically blame setting a franchise record on the refs, as if they're not allowed to commit that many penalties. Like I said, it wasn't perfect but not out of the ordninary. Certainly nothing comapred to the Seahawks/Steelers Super Bowl. That was one game where I felt the calls were unusual. But Pats/Colts was officiated normally. Maybe that's not good enough for a "playoff" type of game, but that's how I saw it.
daveandken
Footballguy
They were leading in the 4th quarter and they "don't have a chance" in the playoffs? Wow.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
I think you have a flimsy excuse for hope...but not a real reason. The Colts won't get 200 combined yards out of Addai in NE, and that will negate any advantage of having other guys back. This was their chance-- at home. I don't see things going well for them on the road in January against the Patriots.
twitch
Footballguy
BroadwayG
Footballguy
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
I didn't see it, but could you tell me what was so great about that game? It was close, and neither team could run the ball. By the box score, it looks like pass to Engram/pass to Engram/pass to Engram...pass to Winslow/pass to Winslow/pass to Winslow. Was there something particularly amazing that isn't captured in the highlishgts or stats? Like I said, I didn't see it so I don't know.It was a good game, but not even the game of the week.
timschochet
Footballguy
Who knows what will actually happen in January, but I don't think we have to worry about the Colts believing in themselves or that they can win. there are three teams in this league that will NEVER question themselves: the Pats, the Colts and the Steelers. That is because the core of each of these teams have been through the playoff wars and all have recent SB rings. You cannot underestimate this fact. None of these three teams are going to be in awe of anybody else. New England is better than Indy, who is better than Pittsburgh, no question. But confidence is not an issue here.
GregR_2
Footballguy
It could have been more than 150. There were a few non-calls that went the Pats way that I thought balanced out some of the bad calls that were made against them. Like the holding that got Brady the corner for the 20 yard scramble on 3rd and long.
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
There is no question Moss is a difference maker, but I am not sure I agree with the description of the 55yd pass. The pass was a pretty good one and went right where it needed to be just slightly under thrown; another 2 yards and it would have been a td.NE didn't run the ball as well as Indy, but their per carry average was the same so it wasn't as if they were terrible. It will be interesting to see what happens "IF" they should meet in the AFCC game in Foxboro. I think the dynamics have changed somewhat this year with Indy being more like NE has been in the past (meat & potatos offense, good solid defense) while NE is more of a finesse offense, but still a solid defense. I think Indy is better prepared for playing outdoors in January than they have ever been in the past. However, Freeney and Mathis are less effective on the road where they do not enjoy the advantage of having the crowd noise and silent count helping them get off the ball so fast and I think that could make a big difference.Undefeated could happen (I think it will), but it sure as heck won't be easy and I would add the BUF road game and NYG road game as potential pitfalls.Ya, I thought the defenses played well. When NE needed some plays down the stretch, their defense came though. I think one player made the difference between last year and this year and it's clearly Randy Moss.Down by 10 points with under 10 mins to play, Brady basically just throws up a ball that looked like a punt and Randy Moss comes down with it inside the 10 yard line. That's not luck, it's Randy Moss but without him the Patriots lose this game by 10 plus points.These two teams look destine to play again, I look forward to the rematch and we'll see if the lack of running game hurts the Patriots in the cold weather. In playoff games, usually the team that can run the ball is the team that wins but the Pats passing game is exceptional so general rules really don't apply to them.I do feel that Indy's overall game plan is the right way to beat the Pats. You have to pressure Brady AND you have to run the ball on them. The Colts proved they could do both so that gives them a shot when they get some of their other players back that didn't play this past weekend.The undefeated season for the Patriots looks a lot smoother now. They have to play Baltimore who looks like a beaten team and the one game that may be interesting is Pittsburgh but at home.As I said before the game, lets just play this game to decide who gets home field advantage and then press the Fast Forward button to the AFC Championship game to see who gets to go to the Super Bowl beccause everything else really doesn't matter.IMO it was a great game; especially the end
switz
Footballguy
I'm tired of the whining about the penalties. There was perhaps ONE bad call that went against the Patriots in that game. But there were a ton of non-calls where the Patriots should have been penalized. The Patriots commit more penalties than most teams from my observation, and until this season, they never got called for them.If you feel like the Colts got away with non-calls, then you now feel how every NFL fan felt whenever the Pats played their team over the past 5 years.GregR said:
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Very good game -- one of the best five this year, although I agree that the Seattle/Cleveland game was better. I found myself watching more of the Seattle/Cleveland game in the later stages at the bar we were at.
I would say it did live up to the hype, simply because it was a good game that had a great 4th quarter comeback. However, sound bad officiating and the Colts missing some key players did take a little bit away from the game.
I would say it did live up to the hype, simply because it was a good game that had a great 4th quarter comeback. However, sound bad officiating and the Colts missing some key players did take a little bit away from the game.
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Assani Fisher
Footballguy
He said that the officiating wasn't "out of the ordinary" not that NE's committed penalties were ordinary.twitch said:
videoguy505
Footballguy
Hated it. 3-0 after the first? Snooze. Couldn't hold my attention.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
Sorry to hear that, because it was a pretty exciting 3-0. Addai was running well, Brady was feeling the pressure, Gonzalez *just* missed hanging on for a touchdown and Vinatieri missed a long field-goal. After one quarter, the Colts felt great about moving the ball but bad about only having three points. The Patriots felt good about the close score but bad about sputtering at the start of the game. You could tell it was going to be a good one.A low score doesn't mean a boring game.Hated it. 3-0 after the first? Snooze. Couldn't hold my attention.
twitch
Footballguy
There was a hideous call from the very beginning that had to be reversed when NE challenged it. It was an obvious non-reception with the Colts receiver's foot all over the line that was called a catch. The ref was standing right there. And it was only the beginning. 'Ordinary' just isnt the way I would describe the officiating on that particular day.
switz
Footballguy
So you're basing your "hideous" officiating stance on one bad call.
Pats fans = sore winners 
kevthegrad
Footballguy
The Packers vs KC game was as dramatic and a more exciting ending....or equally exciting, with maybe 1/15th the hype.
Therefore, no, there is no way this game lived up to the hype but yes, it was good.
Therefore, no, there is no way this game lived up to the hype but yes, it was good.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Wasn't even the best game last weekend.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
In terms of the Brady pass to Moss, I guess I can't argue the fact it wasn't where he needed it to be, he caught it. Just the way it was thrown, so high and up for grabs it just looked to me as a pass he was hoping Moss would just go up and get. I don't want to say a luck play because when you have Moss, odds are he'll be the one to get it, not the DB. But I just don't think it's your conventional deep pass throw, meaning unless you have Randy Moss to throw to, that play doesn't work. I don't really think Moss had anyone beat on that particular play he just is physicaly gifted athlete that can do things other people can't.Like that pass earlier in the game, where he was running across the middle, moss reaches up and out with one handed to bring in that ball. If that is thrown the same way to anyone else in the league, that ball is maybe tipped, maybe just overthrown and that could possibly be an interception with the safety just waiting behind the receiver for the overthrow. Instead, it's a big first down.So, no matter how good Brady is or how good the defense is.....they are the same as last year, which is good. Now you throw in Moss into that same team he's what put them over the edge. I believe NE loses that game by 10 points without Randy Moss. On that game alone he was worth a 4th round pick. Shoot, maybe on the catch alone he made at the end of the game he was worth a 4th round pick.NE_REVIVAL said:There is no question Moss is a difference maker, but I am not sure I agree with the description of the 55yd pass. The pass was a pretty good one and went right where it needed to be just slightly under thrown; another 2 yards and it would have been a td.NE didn't run the ball as well as Indy, but their per carry average was the same so it wasn't as if they were terrible. It will be interesting to see what happens "IF" they should meet in the AFCC game in Foxboro. I think the dynamics have changed somewhat this year with Indy being more like NE has been in the past (meat & potatos offense, good solid defense) while NE is more of a finesse offense, but still a solid defense. I think Indy is better prepared for playing outdoors in January than they have ever been in the past. However, Freeney and Mathis are less effective on the road where they do not enjoy the advantage of having the crowd noise and silent count helping them get off the ball so fast and I think that could make a big difference.Undefeated could happen (I think it will), but it sure as heck won't be easy and I would add the BUF road game and NYG road game as potential pitfalls.Iwannabeacowboybaby! said:Ya, I thought the defenses played well. When NE needed some plays down the stretch, their defense came though. I think one player made the difference between last year and this year and it's clearly Randy Moss.Down by 10 points with under 10 mins to play, Brady basically just throws up a ball that looked like a punt and Randy Moss comes down with it inside the 10 yard line. That's not luck, it's Randy Moss but without him the Patriots lose this game by 10 plus points.These two teams look destine to play again, I look forward to the rematch and we'll see if the lack of running game hurts the Patriots in the cold weather. In playoff games, usually the team that can run the ball is the team that wins but the Pats passing game is exceptional so general rules really don't apply to them.I do feel that Indy's overall game plan is the right way to beat the Pats. You have to pressure Brady AND you have to run the ball on them. The Colts proved they could do both so that gives them a shot when they get some of their other players back that didn't play this past weekend.The undefeated season for the Patriots looks a lot smoother now. They have to play Baltimore who looks like a beaten team and the one game that may be interesting is Pittsburgh but at home.As I said before the game, lets just play this game to decide who gets home field advantage and then press the Fast Forward button to the AFC Championship game to see who gets to go to the Super Bowl beccause everything else really doesn't matter.NE_REVIVAL said:IMO it was a great game; especially the end
switz
Footballguy
Almost all of Brady's passes to Moss this year have been thrown up for grabs. I'm not sure if Brady just can't grasp Moss' speed to hit him in stride, or he figures throwing it up gives Moss a better advantage over the DB, but if it were any other WR, those would be picks or incompletes.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I disagree with everyone saying how it wasn't the best game of the weekend. I thought this game was perfect in a sense there's still some questions out there that need to be answered for next time's game.
If you're a Colts fan, you can think positively they you can run the ball effectively on NE. You know that your best wide receiver will probably be in game shape by the time they play again. You saw that the defense was able to put pressure on Brady and in turn that seemed to make him not play up to the caliber we've seen in some other games.
If you're a Pats fan, you won a game against a great opponent and may not have played your best. When the chips were down, you showed Championship material in scoring 2 Td's late on the road. The defense played big when they had to and it looks like the Colts don't have a real answer to stop Moss, but does anyone.
This game will be remembered at the end of the season. Some people mentioned some other games that maybe were nail biters but when you're BSing with your buddies next offseason, you won't remember who won those games but you will remember this game, because it was memorable.
To me, it was perfect. It makes me want to see another one and I hope we get it.
If you're a Colts fan, you can think positively they you can run the ball effectively on NE. You know that your best wide receiver will probably be in game shape by the time they play again. You saw that the defense was able to put pressure on Brady and in turn that seemed to make him not play up to the caliber we've seen in some other games.
If you're a Pats fan, you won a game against a great opponent and may not have played your best. When the chips were down, you showed Championship material in scoring 2 Td's late on the road. The defense played big when they had to and it looks like the Colts don't have a real answer to stop Moss, but does anyone.
This game will be remembered at the end of the season. Some people mentioned some other games that maybe were nail biters but when you're BSing with your buddies next offseason, you won't remember who won those games but you will remember this game, because it was memorable.
To me, it was perfect. It makes me want to see another one and I hope we get it.
