I have never paid for anything quite simply because I can't imagine needing anything more than I get here. I wouldn't say I'm a total shark(I don't play in any leagues over $250 and I don't completely dominate each year), but from reading these boards I feel like I know all there is to know about basic FF strategy and about the players each year.I know that $20 is rather insignificant, but honestly what else is there that can't be found on these boards, at nfl.com, or at pro football reference?I guess maybe if I ever decided to join a high stakes league, then those extra little tidbits would make it worthwhile, but as it is, I barely have enough time to read all of the stuff here yet alone to study more info thrown at me.
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I resisted paying for information for years. Mostly because I consider myself very good at finding information, and in the past I have really enjoyed keeping up with all the little stories around the league that help make fantasy decisions. Being well-researched was part of the hobby. This year I subscribed basically for the he|| of it. Like you, I've become busier as the years go by. It was worth more than double the money in time saved alone.Thanks to the staff for all their hard work, and happy holidays FootballGuys.
Tick
Footballguy
I believe they're worth it many times over.The Draft Dominator is great and would be worth the money by itself.The stading weekly articles are great and would be worth the money by themselves.The email updates/game reports are great and would be worth the money by themselves.The IDP coverage is great and would be worth it. I was going to say borderline-worth it, but I remembered the EOTG articles - those things are very nice for IDP.
Scrap Iron
Footballguy
I'm making my third straight trip to the Super Bowl since subscribing in 2003. I don't think it is coincidence. The theory of Dynamic Value-Based Drafting which some of these guys promote and the custom VBD cheatsheet have helped me dominate my drafts.
I had the draft at my house for a 3rd league at work.. a bunch of new people.. well 2 other guys didn't have any papers and hadn't done any homework, so I let them follow along with me, checking out the rankings based on our scoring... I had set up the draft dominator to handle the draft... all three of us made the playoffs out of 12... I'd say it's well worth it.. this is my third year using it I think...
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B. Nugget
Footballguy
I have been coming to this website for the better part of 2 football seasons just to read the Shark Pool, and I have learned a lot just from the people that post here. Some are definitely more knowledgeable than others and you can definitely tell who the homers are, but once you weed all of that out, there is no question that the average poster is an above average fantasy football guy and it is humbling sometimes with how much work they put into their projections, etc…It is truly amazing that they have lives outside of fantasy football. Having said all of that, I was planning on subscribing this year, but missed the $20 early bird special, so I decided to wait until closer to football season and then put it off and put it off until it was mid-season and then there wasn’t much point in doing it if I hadn’t already. I will be a subscriber next season.My testimonial: I am playing in the championship this year for the first time in 3 years, and my 4th championship appearance overall. I had a horrible season last year due to some bad drafting, and got bounced in the first round of the only playoffs I made out of 5 leagues. This year I made 3 out of 4 and have a legitimate chance at winning my first 2 championships. It wasn’t that I didn’t know what I was doing before, but I’ve learned a couple of valuable lessons like valuing a player too much and overpaying in the draft and hurting other positions or drafting a Kicker or Defense too early. (I had been guilty of doing each of those things in the past.) In a couple of very competitive leagues, I have been very strong this year and I don’t think I would be in this position if it weren’t for this website. I had been playing fantasy football for 6 years before I found this site and I feel my knowledge and skill has doubled without subscribing, so I can’t wait until next year when I have more info at my fingertips. Also, I will be subscribing next year if for no other reason than to run the draft dominator during my live drafts. In one league this year, the commish (who I play in the championship this week) had the draft dominator plugged into the TV so we could all follow the draft and cut back on the “Is Brett Favre still available” questions. It was the first time I realized what a great tool it is, but probably not for the reasons that everybody else would. For example, by about round 6 or 7 I hadn’t taken a QB and I happened to glance at the screen to see how many people still had to pick before it got back to and noticed that I was fairly close to the turn and everybody around me had already taken a QB while I was getting RBs and WRs and of course, my stud TE. I was able to actually hold off for 2 more rounds and got the same QB that I would have taken if I hadn’t looked up at the screen. It may sound trivial, but those are the kinds of things that can hurt you during a draft and because of the software, I didn’t hurt my draft.B. Nugget
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
FWIW --A friend and I have competed head-to-head in 2 different leagues the past three years. He has paid for numerous services (FBGuys, footballinjuries, etc.) and I have paid for absolutely nothing.We've both finished in the money all three years.On the other hand, he was horrible at FF before he starting paying.YMMV
Islander
Footballguy
I generally support most of what has been said here. If FBG doubled their price I would stay, which speaks loudly about what I think of this site. Since most of this thread is about positive feedback, I will add one of the few negative points I have to say about FBG.The IDP projections are almost worthless to me. Despite the numerous suggestions by several people to project decimal INTs, FFs, etc., the projections remain integers and therefore make no sense in several instances. The projections should be decimal just like TDs for offensive players, otherwise you just go out on a limb saying so and so will get 1 INT and 1 FF but you know very well that the expected value of the number of INTs in any game is rarely 1.00 for any player. If I was a betting man and all those projections were offered to me as over/under, I would be extremely rich because most of the time, the overall projections for specific players are way too high or way too low (most of the time way too high). The correlation between projected scores by IDP and actual scores is much weaker than for offensive players. Therefore the defensive projections are not very reliable and have a lot of room for improvement. I would love the site to significantly improve IDP projections and other IDP content in the future. All that being said, IDP is an up and coming area of FFL that is less developed so I understand why it's not as much advanced as other areas. Overall this site is 4-star.
Nope, don't use FFToday for information at all...I would list the sites that I frequent for a little information here-and-there, but that is a "no-no" here...
Plus also, it really doesn't matter as fantasy sports is 100% luck anyway...
[/QUOTE]"100% luck"? No offense but that is what most of the guys who lose every year say...."It was all luck". Please, Fantasy football is about 50% luck and 50% "skill". Having good information helps will the "skill" part.
Either way, thanks for your imput.
[/QUOTE]1. He was joking2. No way its that much skill, especially with a single elimination playoff. More like 75 luck/ 25 skill imho.
GridironMenace
Footballguy
You need to be careful of what you say around here. The mods will suspend your account if you even hint that the pay content around here is bad. That has happened to me twice.IMO, this site is not worth the money. The pay content is not valueable to me. Their predictions are way off and their articles are more aimed for the newbie IMO.The only thing that is worth the money is the draft dominator. Not for the predictions, but moreso for the organization. That to me is worth it. Otherwise, the only reason to come here is the forum which is the best to get info from other fantasy football players. That is worth its weight in gold. Get the DD. If the DD isn't valueable to you, then I would look elsewhere for pay content.
grabnmcbutt
Footballguy
3rd year subscriber here. Is the site worth the money? Yes, fee is very reasonable for all that you get. I also have been a paying subscriber to fantasyguru.com and found the information comparable to that sight. The first two years I was a member of both and this last year a member of just footballguys. I stopped fantasyguru only because of the cost, I think it was like $30 this year.My biggest problem with football guys is the timing of the information. This year it seemed very slow, most parts did not post until very late at night close to midnight. I posted a complaint on this board which was promptly locked and was told to email footballguys, which I did and never recieved a response. I like looking at information and updates through out the day at work 
so the late night information like cheatsheets or predictions or 200 forward was not seen until the next day.At this time I am thinking I will do both again but if I decide on only one it will be fantasyguru simply because I believe I got comparable information more timely than here.
so the late night information like cheatsheets or predictions or 200 forward was not seen until the next day.At this time I am thinking I will do both again but if I decide on only one it will be fantasyguru simply because I believe I got comparable information more timely than here.
Kleck
Footballguy
Because you brought it up I don't have a problem sharing the facts. You've had your account suspended two times, and neither had anything to do with what you mentioned. The first was for circumventing the language filter, and the other was for being a general #######.People question, debate, and complain about the services we provide all the time. Not problem with that. It has lead to several improvements in what we provide.
We try to be specific in what we allow on the message boards. You can refer to the FAQ pinned at the top of the Free For All for more details.
TexanFan02
Footballguy
I've subscribed for the last two years, so here's my take:This site is invaluable for preseason information, leading up to the draft. Plus the Draft Dominator is neat. It's worth it just for that. During the season, there's so much info put out that I don't even attempt to read it all. Nor do I need to, I can get most of the pertinent info I need in the Shark pool. The only thing I really look at is the Passing and Rushing matchups, and that's only if I'm on the fence about two players. Sometimes I might have a depth chart question, which I could answer on the pay side, but I can also get that info in the Shark pool, or at KFFL or Ourlads. Overall, I think the content is worth paying for, especially before your draft. I also pay just because I like using the free message boards. I used to subscribe to KFFL for the same reason, because they have a great news service. But then they got more expensive. I still think they're better at news, but this site is better at FF content, so pick accordingly.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I initially signed up just because I felt like I should pay something to support keeping the shark pool running - it's still THE best part of the site.
From time to time I'll read some of the pay comment, and I'll definitely check out the cheet sheets for a second opinion when I've got tough decisions to make.
To me I can name the best part of the pay content in one word: kickermania. I think Dave Hermann has a crystal ball or something because he gets this right an incredible majority of the time. I always draft kickers last and feed off the waiver wire for them throughout the season. This guy called Rakers way back before the season started for instance. He also made me aware of Rob Bironas, and one week when I was hurting at kicker made the baffling yet incredibly productive recommendation of Paul Edinger (who won me my game that week). If you use kickers in your league, this one feature may be worth the price alone - it makes sense of and predicts something I used to think was completely random.
From time to time I'll read some of the pay comment, and I'll definitely check out the cheet sheets for a second opinion when I've got tough decisions to make.
To me I can name the best part of the pay content in one word: kickermania. I think Dave Hermann has a crystal ball or something because he gets this right an incredible majority of the time. I always draft kickers last and feed off the waiver wire for them throughout the season. This guy called Rakers way back before the season started for instance. He also made me aware of Rob Bironas, and one week when I was hurting at kicker made the baffling yet incredibly productive recommendation of Paul Edinger (who won me my game that week). If you use kickers in your league, this one feature may be worth the price alone - it makes sense of and predicts something I used to think was completely random.
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I subscribed last year and that was it. The info isn't all that great. sure there's lots of it but nothing special. You could find most of it on your own. The message boards are where all the info is. just cruise through here a couple times a week and you'll know EXACTLY what is going on. If you feel you HAVE to throw your money away it might as well be here though, the 20,000 dollar contest makes it worth it. good luck,VILL
Mr. Anonymous
Footballguy
Draft Dominator (see link below)
raft Dominator is a software program that takes 1) your league's scoring rules and structure, 2) David Dodd's projections, and 3) VBD (using whatever baseline you set), and determines the "value" of players in a draft, based on your league's scoring rules.Before we move on, this by itself is hugely valuable. Applying your league's scoring rules to a set of projections is difficult and very meaningful. Applying VBD (properly instituted) is a key insight that is done automatically for you. The format is very user-friendly, and you can run mock drafts very easily, either using VBD or (more commonly) average draft values that are downloaded into the software weekly until the season starts. So you get a reasonably good sense at how people would draft, and what choices will be available to you.
Now, using the output, there are issues. One - David Dodds might be wrong about a) a given player's projections or b) the relative ranking of one position player vs. another. That's why I tend to see where a given position player (say, RB#12) deserves to be taken, using league scoring VBD, and then mentally slot who I believe is RB#12, among a group of three or four candidates. We all do this with cheatsheets. Two - your league scoring rules applied to projections and the actual scoring that would be produced by those projections are slightly different. To give one example, RBs in my league get no points for yards until 75 (2 pts), 100 (4 pts), etc. There is no way to replicate this in the scoring setup. You can get fairly close, but it's always going to be giving me some points for sub-75 yard days. To get around this, I prepare a separate, hand made excel spreadsheet, using the same VBD baselines, that uses our league's scoring history for RB #1, #2, QB #7, etc. Then (for lack of anything better) I use Dodd's ranked-players to fill those slots (though, if I have time, I reorder them a bit), then VBD that, then I determine when RB#3 or QB#7 has been historical drafted in my league (those are my average draft positions). I have that peice of paper with me at the draft, which I scratch off, as well as Draft Dominator. Draft Dominator is more dynamic than my paper, while my paper is more customized to my league that Draft Dominator.
I believe it is possible to populate Draft Dominator with your league's scoring instead of projections, but it appears to be difficult and you lose a lot of information, so I have just done this the easy way.
Now, take a look at this (don't know how it differs from the paid version), and imagine that once you've drafted, you can import the draft results (by team) into Lineup Dominator, and then each week (from week 1 you can see weeks 1-15) and rolling through the weeks, you'll be able to see your expected scoring (using your league rules) for any given week, what your record is "expected" to be, what players are available that might be better than yours - forward the rest of the season, or for given weak weeks. And using strength of schedule as a factor in the expected scoring for the week.
Imagine thinking about doing a trade; putting it into your lineup; and then being able to say "this trade seems to make sense; and actually improves my scoring for the year; however, it weakens me in weeks 16 and 17 to below an acceptable level. However, if I trade so-and-so (who's weak those weeks) for another player, and then pick up such-and-such, whose strong those weeks, then that trade is a home run." That's what you can do with lineup dominator. Of course, things may change afterwards, but your gut - and this kind of information - works wonders. And your gut will not tell you, at a glance, what effect a trade will have on you in some out week. You can even see that it strengthens you in your weakest week, or a week that you play a division opponent.
http://footballguys.com/download2.htm
Now, their predictions will be wrong about given players' performances (though, no more than a well-informed fantasy player, and much less than a non-expert like me), but the methodology is very well founded, and so user-friendly that you only have to download updates to implement for each week. That's why we all beg for updates as soon as possible - our brains can't systematically apply all of these variables (esp. strength of schedule) on the fly.
That's why I have always said, and say now, that I am happy to pay double the cost if those funds are necessary to improve the product here, even by 20-30%. "Faster" being the number one way things could be improved. Not that they aren't impressively fast now. Second best thing to do - make it possible to use a) consensus projections or b) select among several sets of projections. Third - allow more peculiar scoring rules to be applied (which requires weekly projections at the beginning of the season - a tall order). Fourth - there is no fourth.
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Synthesizer
Footballguy
It's tough to beat the $20 pricetag. I like the weekly waiver wire player descriptions and the game summaries give me an idea of exactly how each of my players performed. Some of the preseason player write-ups and articles were pretty good too. Plus the $20,000 contest was really cool and I was hooked on it all year long. All-in-all, lots of bang for the buck.
crazyhorse
Footballguy
I've never paid for the info, so I can't comment on it. I will say that there are some free forums out there though that will give you alot of up to date information. You just have to look.
perry147
Footballguy
I thought you were "fishing" but I can see now that you are serious. This site has the best information on Fantasy Football and more of it. You get more information than you could possibly read in a week if you wanted to read everything. More stats than you will ever need. Example: What WR has the most passed thrown his way when inside the ten? With this site you can get information like that as well as Draft Dominator,Data Dominator and many other tools. It is worth every penny.
GridironMenace
Footballguy
That is complete and utter bull####!!!!!I want to see the posts where I was "circumventing the language filter" whatever the hell that means and the post where I was being an ###. I've asked nicely 3 times prior for an explanation and never got a response. I've PM'd Joe about it this time and have yet to get a response. Perhaps you want to be the good mod and show me what I did wrong. I would love to see it. If you don't want to put it on this thread then PM it to me. I demand to know what I did, because it is complete crap as I did nothing wrong...ever, but yet have been suspended twice without as much as a PM letting me know what I did wrong. That is not a way to run a forum, much less a damn business as you take money from people here. Show me what I did wrong...PLEEEAAASSSEEEE!
Kleck
Footballguy
No problem. You were first suspended by Joe Bryant on Dec 12 2005, 06:45 AM
The note made after this entry is "repeat tool". You were suspended 1 day.The second time was on Oct 14 2005, 07:13 PM when you referred to another poster as "SCHLONG!" Joe suspended your account three days that time as it was a second time.
He doesn't bother sending someone a PM when he suspends an account. He doesn't have the time or patience for it. You can contact him <bryant@footballguys.com> if you want to debate it.
Neither was a case of you being suspended because you questioned the content on our site. We know we don't have your business, nor your future business. No problem. These boards remain free for your use as long as you follow our posted guidelines.
Crusaderfan
Footballguy
I've been a member for a few years now and every year I have won at least one of my 3 leagues. yeah - I've been burned by Barlow last year and both the Jones boys this year but it would have happened if I followed other sites advice also. Those guys just never panned out.I'm more than happy with what I find here for the price of a case of beer - LOL. I look at their cheatsheets, look at their projections then decide for myself what to do. I use their info as suggestions - you still gotta think a little bit.The feature I find most valuable is the target statistics. Seems I'm always digging for that breakout WR and to me - targets is the place to start.Willie
Mr. Pink
Footballguy
OK, now that that's over I'll chime in with my thoughts on the pay content of the site.I am particularly fond of the matchup breakdowns and the target data. Both are next to impossible to find anywhere else. The info on breakdowns focus on how a team is performing recently, rather than throughout the season. Makes a big difference, especially when looking at a team like the Patriots who have had issues defensively all season, but through health and cohesion, have performed at a high level over a three game span.That's just a part of what I like about the pay content, but there is much more. My best advice is find out for yourself.I've been in fantasy football since 1997. Total points, head to head, redraft, keeper, dynasty...you name it. I have made a grand total of one Super Bowl appearance in that time (no more than two leagues a season). This year, my first as a paid subscriber, I am in the SB in both leagues. Could be a coincidence, but I will defer to the FBGs.
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RoarinSonoran
Footballguy
Two 1sts and a 3rd (shoulda been a 1st if I had tanked the final regular season game) in the last three years in my money league. Screwed up this year and didn't put a lot of study into it, and so had a crappy season, but I did have some bright moments, thanks to FBG.Currently leading the $1000 Survivor I contest, so that's a plus as well. Been a member since the old cheatsheets.net days, and will continue to do so.
Screwed up this year and didn't put a lot of study into it, and so had a crappy season, but I did have some bright moments, thanks to FBG.Currently leading the $1000 Survivor I contest, so that's a plus as well. Been a member since the old cheatsheets.net days, and will continue to do so.
GridironMenace
Footballguy
Oh I see, so Joe doesn't have time to PM his clients when something doesn't go the way he wants? He doesn't have the time or he just doesn't give a rats behind (can I say that) about the people that pay to use this site? Poor business IMO. I would like Joe to chime in here on this matter. As others have said, they have e-mailed and PM'd the admins here and never got back a response. What kind of "customer" service is that? You are right, you won't get back my business next year. I subscribed this year to see what it was about and there is nothing here worthy of money. Everything you can find here can be found for free and much faster at any one of 15 other webpages. Again, if Draft Dominator leaves here, so does 80% of the paying subscribers. Whoever makes the DD, should really start their own webpage and just supply the dominator. They would make a lot more money and this webpage would turn into a forum.
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WarRedbirds
Footballguy
I'm a miser when it comes to paying for information on the Internet, but I ponied up this year and am glad I did. The matchup data has improved my starting lineup almost weekly.
crazyhorse
Footballguy
There are sights that have much of the info in one place. If people want to pay for info so be it, there our other options out there though.You could read the sports page in your local paper and find out much of what you need/want to know already.
Fullback Fro
yesno
IF you want someone to organize the info for you pay the $$.
WarRedbirds
Footballguy
This is my first year subscribing, and I've finally made the championship game of my big money league after 7 years. Coincidence???
On the various message boards out there, you get the viewpoints of a lot more people though. If you have the time, it is by far a superior resource. If you don't have the time to gather the information yourself, sure - it's worth the money. But if you're a guy that combs the box scores, reads a message board or two regularly, and keeps updated on a news source or two, it's information you already have and not really worth paying for.
On another note, one of the things that really disappointed me about the pay services was that they almost entirely ignore dynasty/keeper formats and it doesn't seem to be something that will be addressed anytime soon. The information on the message boards is far superior in this area, and is of course free.
smcindoe
Footballguy
The cheatsheets, rankings and Top 200 forward are easily worth the price. Easily.(Just be aware that if you ever mention actually using that content, there will be a race for people to be the first to sneer "do your own research" at you. I've never really figured out why that is, it just is.)
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General Tso
Guest
Best $$$ you can spend in my opinion. Joe and company do a tremendous job.
jeff_eaglz
Footballguy
Lots to comment on here.First, I'm an advocate for this site, been using it for years (I saw that "cheatsheets.net" comment - had even forgotten that...). The tools are great, and there's so many of them that are out there that I haven't even used them all probably to their full effectiveness. I have used DD, VBDapp and Trade Dominator. I like the Custom Cheatsheet (to your own scoring system) and even the "My Players" feature to follow your main guys.Some like the IDP coverage, and that's a huge "up and comer" in fantasy football. Some like Lineup Dominator. Some like Game Matchup. Some like Pass/Run Matchups and the Cheatsheets.I use a lot of it, but not all. There's just too much.Timeliness could be better, but I've gotten off my butt and offered to help them out on this site. I've been a game recapper for 3-4 years, and I love the info I get just from intently watching games I normally wouldn't watch. The discussions on sleepers in the preseason is key, and the boards add a ton of value for in season players to watch (Gado.... come on, who else knew him?). I know John Hansen and listen to his show with Adam Kaplan on Sirius Friday nights often, and they were even scooped on Gado. But that's not pay content.Anyway, there's a ton of stuff every week, and you can use it to your own effectiveness. It helps me with lineup calls all year, and the recaps let me know what happened if Galloway put up a zero one week. (Targets targets targets).Anyway, I think it is great value.I would like to see other's suggestions for improvements...
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blenderfrog
All your base are belong to us
FBG is the second best pay site I've seen , with the contest and software that comes with subscribing, it's more than worth its cost.
, with the contest and software that comes with subscribing, it's more than worth its cost.
laxiepoo
Footballguy
I'm a first-year subscriber, and I think this site is top-notch.I was given a 3 week trial for one of the major fantasy sites out there, and it simply could not compare to the layout, easy interface, and in-depth information that I've found here at FBG.I'll echo another poster's thoughts about even if you don't subscribe, do yourself a favor and pony up the $8 for the FBG Preseason Magazine. So much better than the other two major mags available.Joe and crew - thanks for a great first year. Me and my subscription dollars will be back next season =)
cstu
Footballguy
Joe doesn't have time for people like yourself who arrogantly think they can bypass the rules that we all follow. You don't think a lot of us want to circumvent the language filter sometimes to emphasize a point? Sure we do, but we realize it's not necessary and it's a detriment to the community if everyone were allowed to do so. If you don't want to pay for the service, that's your perogative but don't blame Joe for not responding to someone who appears to just be trying to cause trouble.
Dino
Footballguy
In the last five years I have gotten 1st place 4 times and 2nd place once (this year) during the regular season. I have won 3 championships, and am playing in the championship game this week. And FBGs has helped for sure.Here are my favorite features - with what I would like to see improved1) Lineup Dominator (LD) - needs to be update earlier in the week 2) In season top 200 (really top 300) - Dodds does a comprehensive job, needs to do a better job matching the LD - I believe Dodds works to hard on the site, so it might be a good idea to get more FBGs people involved. I also must mention that this year Dodds has been quit a bit off with his WR rankings compared to prior years, especially guys rated 10+.3) Joe’s FF E-mails4) Experts Draft Sheet - I create my own cheat sheets every year using this, Dodds/Joe list and lists from other sites I use, but I find the experts lists the most accurate.5) SOS - strength of schedule - also part of LD6) Weekly projections7) Data Dominator, target stats, goal line stats, and other stat services.8) Draft Dominator - would be rated much higher if it included input from more experts9) Trade dominator - with the LD around not as useful 10) Round Table11) Waiver Wire / Upgrades and downgrades12) Good message boardNegativesTimeliness 
Responsiveness to customers Waiver wire advise could be a little betterFBGs have little to do with this one, but there are too many FF wise useless posts, too many mesage board wars, and just too much imaturity.
2) In season top 200 (really top 300) - Dodds does a comprehensive job, needs to do a better job matching the LD - I believe Dodds works to hard on the site, so it might be a good idea to get more FBGs people involved. I also must mention that this year Dodds has been quit a bit off with his WR rankings compared to prior years, especially guys rated 10+.3) Joe’s FF E-mails4) Experts Draft Sheet - I create my own cheat sheets every year using this, Dodds/Joe list and lists from other sites I use, but I find the experts lists the most accurate.5) SOS - strength of schedule - also part of LD6) Weekly projections7) Data Dominator, target stats, goal line stats, and other stat services.8) Draft Dominator - would be rated much higher if it included input from more experts9) Trade dominator - with the LD around not as useful 10) Round Table11) Waiver Wire / Upgrades and downgrades12) Good message boardNegativesTimeliness Responsiveness to customers Waiver wire advise could be a little betterFBGs have little to do with this one, but there are too many FF wise useless posts, too many mesage board wars, and just too much imaturity.
Da Good Da Bad an Da Ugly
Footballguy
I've ponied up some coin over the years for various pay sites. Over the last two years this is the only site I suscribe too. It is heads and shoulders above the competion in both content and services provided. Joe and Co. do an awesome job and the message board here is one of the best due to the quality of posters. During the off season this message board is a wealth of information and a respository of knowledge. It is without reservation that I recommend FBG's to anyone provided they don't play in one of my local money leagues....
Biabreakable
Footballguy
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I've used almost all of them over the past few years and this year it was FBG's turn to get my cash.I would say the most user-friendly features are on this site for the purposes of usefullness prior and during the season. I think they do their best in-house work during the preseason and around draft time. Everything during the season is typically obvious fluff that you can get anywhere.For the most part 98% of the information out there is going to be duplicated everywhere. You may get a story here or there that turns out to be golden from different websites, but for the most part is the same stuff.The only real differences is how it is presented and how quickily you can decipher what they are attempting to tell you.That's really what FBG's has been able to accomplish where some other places tend to fail.With all that said, I still haven't got a whole lot from the "pay content" this year. I'd like to think that's because I am already in the know so to speak on those issues. Most of it I just flip through because it's obvious stuff to me.The majority of the "breaking news" that is truely important to FF players is readily available right here on the free message boards and that's where I see any 'real' info that makes me stop and think.I do like some of the tools that FBG puts out and I do like their little 20k contest, so I'll most likely be paying up again next year. That doesn't mean I'll get a ton out of their site. I just like toys.
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