How Long Will Favre Take To Decide? (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

I'm a Brett Favre fan. But it seems uber lame to me that he's dragging this decision out so long.

Green Bay needs to know now what he's going to do. Lots and lots of moves that would be made (or not made) based on his decision.

How long do you think he'll wait? And how much pressure do you think is really being put on him by the team?

J

 

[gman8343]

I think he's waiting to see what they do in free agency. If he feels they have a legitimate shot at being competitive, he'll come back. If it looks lik they're rebuilding, he's gone.

Isn't this an annual thing with Favre now, like Groundhog Day?

 

[Warpig]

I'm a Brett Favre fan. But it seems uber lame to me that he's dragging this decision out so long.

Green Bay needs to know now what he's going to do. Lots and lots of moves that would be made (or not made) based on his decision.

How long do you think he'll wait? And how much pressure do you think is really being put on him by the team?

J

I think that he really wants to come back but he wants to see what they do via free agency. Why else would he be taking so long? If they bring in a couple key free agents and have a good draft then I think he's back. Just my two cents. (I'd put the emoticon but I don't know where you guys get the cool ones from).

 

[facook]

I'm a Brett Favre fan. But it seems uber lame to me that he's dragging this decision out so long.

Green Bay needs to know now what he's going to do. Lots and lots of moves that would be made (or not made) based on his decision.

How long do you think he'll wait? And how much pressure do you think is really being put on him by the team?

J

I think that he really wants to come back but he wants to see what they do via free agency. Why else would he be taking so long? If they bring in a couple key free agents and have a good draft then I think he's back. Just my two cents. (I'd put the emoticon but I don't know where you guys get the cool ones from).

Which seems like a self-defeating prospect for the Packers. By the time Favre decides whether or not they've made enough progress in FA, GB may have missed out on the best FA QBs. And they definitely can't wait for him to make his decision until the draft, or they're faced with starting Rodgers next year. I agree with JB - Favre needs to make up his mind and let the Packers move on one way or another.

 

[Sinrman]

I think he's waiting to see what they do in free agency. If he feels they have a legitimate shot at being competitive, he'll come back. If it looks lik they're rebuilding, he's gone.

Isn't this an annual thing with Favre now, like Groundhog Day?

Exactly.

 

[msommer]

Maybe he is waiting for the fate of the CBA to be determined.

I am pretty sure retirement has some cap implications so it could have serious effects on GB if he retires now as opposed to playing half heartedly in 2006.

 

[Bears_Man2]

Others have hit it. If the Packers show they're going to be competitive, he'll be back. I wouldn't want to come back to that either & whole heartedly agree with him waiting it out to see what management does. Bringing Green back is a step, but I'd hardly believe that'd make him return.

Sign Owens, draft D.Ferguson or Mario Williams & Favre returns. Green Bay needs help at wide receiver even with a returning Javon Walker. Can't assume he'll be 100% in 2006.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

As most of you know, I'm a big fan of the Packers and Favre. It pains me to write this but I don't see how he can come back after the comments he made to Mort.

If he doesn't play well to start the season, the media and the fans will start to turn on him questioning why he came back if his heart and head were not into it. I was very discouraged at the interview with Mort. I do think the Packers can rebound and make a run at the playoffs if he were to return.

I had hoped he would state he would return but it would be his last season so he could concentrate on playing football to stop all the retirement questions. Let alone all the problems the team suffered this year, I'm convinced the retirement talk became a distraction. His wife stated during the MNF game against Baltimore that not one day goes by that he isn't asked about it and she was just as much to blame as anyone.

 

[salmonstud]

The signing of Ahman Green coupled with Walker projected to be able to go this year equals Favre's return for one more season. I would be shocked if Bret hangs them up this year.

 

[Couch Potato]

I think he'll announce his decision sometime between a couple weeks after the start of free agency and the NFL draft. I also think he'll play, and will announce it will be his last year. Fla\/\/ed is right that the retirement questions have to stop if he returns, and announcing it will be his last year is the only way to do that. He'd also get to enjoy the opportunity to say his goodbyes around the league in style this way.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

I've heard that he is slated to show up at Green Bay's annual Fan Fest, which if I'm not mistaken is this coming weekend. It was at this Fan Fest last year that he made it known he'd be coming back. If he does indeed attend, look for an announcement. And imo, why come to Fan Fest at all, much less make an announcement, if not to announce a return for 2006.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I've heard that he is slated to show up at Green Bay's annual Fan Fest, which if I'm not mistaken is this coming weekend. It was at this Fan Fest last year that he made it known he'd be coming back. If he does indeed attend, look for an announcement. And imo, why come to Fan Fest at all, much less make an announcement, if not to announce a return for 2006.

Thanks Mr. A. I hope he says something there. Is it for sure this weekend?J

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

I've heard that he is slated to show up at Green Bay's annual Fan Fest, which if I'm not mistaken is this coming weekend. It was at this Fan Fest last year that he made it known he'd be coming back. If he does indeed attend, look for an announcement. And imo, why come to Fan Fest at all, much less make an announcement, if not to announce a return for 2006.

Thanks Mr. A. I hope he says something there. Is it for sure this weekend?J

Posted February 26, 2006 Driver, Butler added to Fan Fest

Green Bay Packers receiver Donald Driver and former Packers safety LeRoy Butler have added their names to the list of players who will be at the second Fan Fest, March 10 to 12.

The team also announced Friday that the tour through the team's locker room will take place on March 12.

Players expected to appear include Bart Starr, John Brockington, Santana Dotson, Nick Barnett, Nick Collins, Lynn Dickey, Antonio Freeman, Paul Hornung, Brian Noble, Aaron Rodgers and Frank Winters. Appearance times will be announced at the fest and are subject to change.

The event is sold out and tickets were mailed last week to those whose names were drawn.

— Press-Gazette

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Well, I've been saying all along that Favre still wants to play, just not in Green Bay. By holding off on the decision, he puts the pressure squarely on Ted Thompson to either pay the bonus and retain him, or don't pay the bonus and let Favre become a FA. If you read and listen to Favre closely, I think it's clear that he was hinting that he wants to move on because Green Bay just isn't that close to being good.

The talk about players being cut at any time, well, he's brought that up on several occasions. It's more than just passing conversation. Now, it's just turned into a staring contest.

Favre really doesn't want to stay in Green Bay, but doesn't want to be the bad guy and request his release. Thompson may not want to pay the bonus, but he doesn't want to be the GM that let Favre walk. Tough decisions ahead, but as Packer fan, I don't like the vibe Favre is putting out there.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

Yep, I just looked. Fan Fest is this coming Fri-Sun. (3/10-3/12)

EDIT: You guys are quick

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Yep, I just looked. Fan Fest is this coming Fri-Sun. (3/10-3/12)

EDIT: You guys are quick

But this article states Favre will not be therehttp://www.packersnews.com/archives/news/pack_25044722.shtml

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Favre really doesn't want to stay in Green Bay, but doesn't want to be the bad guy and request his release.

Every comment he has made in the past has stated he will retire as a Green Bay Packer.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Favre really doesn't want to stay in Green Bay, but doesn't want to be the bad guy and request his release.

Every comment he has made in the past has stated he will retire as a Green Bay Packer.

He's talking out of the both sides of his mouth. If you read between the lines, I think it's clear that doesn't want to play unless they're going to win. That doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't want to play at all.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

Let me add, that while not officially scheduled, my information came from two sources (not my own) that said Favre will attend. Milwaukee TV had Favre on a week ago saying he has a Packer charter set aside for him to fly in should he take the team up on the offer. My information is that he has since agreed to take that flight.

EDIT: I would think the appearance of Favre is desired to be a surprise, thus I don't think the team will be making any indication that he'll be there. If I remember correctly, wasn't Favre's attendance a last minute surprise last year as well?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Favre really doesn't want to stay in Green Bay, but doesn't want to be the bad guy and request his release.

Every comment he has made in the past has stated he will retire as a Green Bay Packer.

He's talking out of the both sides of his mouth. If you read between the lines, I think it's clear that doesn't want to play unless they're going to win. That doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't want to play at all.

Not really. His comments were based on frustration. The Packers never had a season like the last one under Favre. I'm sure it was tough on him mentally but that doesn't equate to him wanting to leave. Favre has always been truthful and upstanding with his comments. He hasn't spoken out of both sides of his mouth and he will retire as a Packer.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Favre really doesn't want to stay in Green Bay, but doesn't want to be the bad guy and request his release.

Every comment he has made in the past has stated he will retire as a Green Bay Packer.

He's talking out of the both sides of his mouth. If you read between the lines, I think it's clear that doesn't want to play unless they're going to win. That doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't want to play at all.

Hi MIYH,Do you have some quotes on this? I don't recall reading anything that way. I think I fall into one of those that would be really surprised to see him wind up with another team. I think guys like Kirby Puckett sort of reinforce that "one team" thing and Favre just seems like that kind of guy to me. And Green Bay is definitely that kind of place.

What have you heard/read him say?

J

 

[Warpig]

Well, I've been saying all along that Favre still wants to play, just not in Green Bay. By holding off on the decision, he puts the pressure squarely on Ted Thompson to either pay the bonus and retain him, or don't pay the bonus and let Favre become a FA. If you read and listen to Favre closely, I think it's clear that he was hinting that he wants to move on because Green Bay just isn't that close to being good.

The talk about players being cut at any time, well, he's brought that up on several occasions. It's more than just passing conversation. Now, it's just turned into a staring contest.

Favre really doesn't want to stay in Green Bay, but doesn't want to be the bad guy and request his release. Thompson may not want to pay the bonus, but he doesn't want to be the GM that let Favre walk. Tough decisions ahead, but as Packer fan, I don't like the vibe Favre is putting out there.

I totally disagree with this. The guy IS Green Bay. What do people think of when someone says Green Bay? Vince Lombardi and Brett Favre. There aren't many players out there that symbolize an entire society and Favre is one of them. When you are in the twilight of your career, why go somewhere and embarrass yourself like Namath, Montana, and the handful of others that decided to jump ship to another city because in their own minds they thought they still had 'it'? I believe Favre has no intentions whatsoever of going elsewhere and is weighing his options and watching what GB does in FA.

 

[Kleck.]

Jim Caston, local Madison ESPN radio show The Bull Pen, was calling it a "Cat and Mouse game" the other night. Favre wants to see what the Packers do in FA before he decides, and the Packers want to know what Favre will do before they get too involved in FA.

Sounds like Thompson will go ahead and make the FA moves he feels best for the team, but I'd hate to see all the FA QB's get nabbed up before Favre makes a decision to retire. I don't believe Thompson will let that happen and if it comes down to it, he will demand Favre's decision or move on as if Favre is gone.

 

[B-Deep]

I totally disagree with this. The guy IS Green Bay. What do people think of when someone says Green Bay? Vince Lombardi and Brett Favre. There aren't many players out there that symbolize an entire society and Favre is one of them. When you are in the twilight of your career, why go somewhere and embarrass yourself like Namath, Montana, and the handful of others that decided to jump ship to another city because in their own minds they thought they still had 'it'? I believe Favre has no intentions whatsoever of going elsewhere and is weighing his options and watching what GB does in FA.

Lets hold up a second here. I agree that Favre probably won't play anywehere else. But more power to him if he wanted to. I don't think it is embarassing to want to keep playing the game you love for as long as you possibly can. Would Namath and Montana have been "embarassing" had they just had crappy season with the same team they'd always been with? Was it not being a superstar or was it the other team that was embarassing? It is easy for us fans to forget these are human beings, most of whom LOVE what they do, and it is something they've been working at all their life. It cannot be easy to simply say, "that's enough" when there are teams that still want you and when you think you can still play.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

My theory is that Favre's comments about wanting to wait and see what the team does in FA is all part of a ploy to conceal his plans to announce this weekend. Without a smokescreen people might be more likely to expect a repeat of last year's Fan Fest announcement. This way he gets to surprise us all again, and let the Packer's fans once again be the first to know...something I really think is important to him.

On a side note: he has to know that actually waiting well into FA would really make him look like an ###. Either his heart is in playing, or it's not. And I have more faith in him than to believe he'd really leave Ted Thompson hanging knowing full well it actually hurts the team's chances to field a competitive team next year. Expect an announcement this weekend and all this talk of holding the team hostage to go away.

That's my theory/hunch...we'll know by sometime Sunday at the latest if I'm on to something.

 

[Sabertooth]

Jim Caston, local Madison ESPN radio show The Bull Pen, was calling it a "Cat and Mouse game" the other night.  Favre wants to see what the Packers do in FA before he decides, and the Packers want to know what Favre will do before they get too involved in FA. 

Sounds like Thompson will go ahead and make the FA moves he feels best for the team, but I'd hate to see all the FA QB's get nabbed up before Favre makes a decision to retire.  I don't believe Thompson will let that happen and if it comes down to it, he will demand Favre's decision or move on as if Favre is gone.

I don't think the Packers should base any free agency moves off of Favre. I'd assume he's not going to be here and proceed accordingly. If he comes back, great, if not, that's ok too. I mean, it's not like they are close to winning a super bowl or anything.IMHO, Favre missed his golden opportunity when he chucked that ball up in the 4th and 26 game a few years back. Completely reckless. Cost him his last shot at another Super Bowl.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Favre really doesn't want to stay in Green Bay, but doesn't want to be the bad guy and request his release.

Every comment he has made in the past has stated he will retire as a Green Bay Packer.

He's talking out of the both sides of his mouth. If you read between the lines, I think it's clear that doesn't want to play unless they're going to win. That doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't want to play at all.

Hi MIYH,Do you have some quotes on this? I don't recall reading anything that way. I think I fall into one of those that would be really surprised to see him wind up with another team. I think guys like Kirby Puckett sort of reinforce that "one team" thing and Favre just seems like that kind of guy to me. And Green Bay is definitely that kind of place.

What have you heard/read him say?

J

Not one specific quote, just a culmanation of his year's worth of interview talk. Just speculation on my part, I just get the feeling that he wants to move on if Green Bay isn't going to win. And by move on, I don't mean retirement, because Favre has said himself that he can still get it done physically.http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=388375

"His concern is he wants to win," McCarthy said.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=384771

"I don't know what he's going to do, but they need to really make a big push to tell him that they really want him back and, 'We're going to get some guys around you to try to make a run at this thing again.' "

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=382437

What's to say next year would be any different? And I'm not saying that my better days are behind me or anything like that, but there's no guarantee that next year will be better," Favre said. "And maybe the factors that contributed to our lack of success this year come up again. We have a ways to go to get back to where we were, and what direction this team wants to go may not include me - or may include me

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=381646

For the record, both say that they want Favre to return, although the theory is out there that the Packers are eager to commence reconstruction in a post-Favre era.

Would the organization actually try to run off The Man, The Myth, The Legend?

"It can happen to anyone," Favre said. "It really can. I'm not immune to it. I think that the organization and myself have a great relationship, and they can be honest with me because I've always been honest. But that could happen."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=381100

"Maybe they want to go in a different direction and they don't know how to tell Brett Favre, 'We want to go in a different direction.' "

Asked if he was aware this could be his last game, Favre said, "Absolutely. I'm well aware of that."

 

[Joe Bryant]

Favre really doesn't want to stay in Green Bay, but doesn't want to be the bad guy and request his release.

Every comment he has made in the past has stated he will retire as a Green Bay Packer.

He's talking out of the both sides of his mouth. If you read between the lines, I think it's clear that doesn't want to play unless they're going to win. That doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't want to play at all.

Hi MIYH,Do you have some quotes on this? I don't recall reading anything that way. I think I fall into one of those that would be really surprised to see him wind up with another team. I think guys like Kirby Puckett sort of reinforce that "one team" thing and Favre just seems like that kind of guy to me. And Green Bay is definitely that kind of place.

What have you heard/read him say?

J

Not one specific quote, just a culmanation of his year's worth of interview talk. Just speculation on my part, I just get the feeling that he wants to move on if Green Bay isn't going to win. And by move on, I don't mean retirement, because Favre has said himself that he can still get it done physically.http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=388375

"His concern is he wants to win," McCarthy said.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=384771

"I don't know what he's going to do, but they need to really make a big push to tell him that they really want him back and, 'We're going to get some guys around you to try to make a run at this thing again.' "

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=382437

What's to say next year would be any different? And I'm not saying that my better days are behind me or anything like that, but there's no guarantee that next year will be better," Favre said. "And maybe the factors that contributed to our lack of success this year come up again. We have a ways to go to get back to where we were, and what direction this team wants to go may not include me - or may include me

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=381646

For the record, both say that they want Favre to return, although the theory is out there that the Packers are eager to commence reconstruction in a post-Favre era.

Would the organization actually try to run off The Man, The Myth, The Legend?

"It can happen to anyone," Favre said. "It really can. I'm not immune to it. I think that the organization and myself have a great relationship, and they can be honest with me because I've always been honest. But that could happen."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=381100

"Maybe they want to go in a different direction and they don't know how to tell Brett Favre, 'We want to go in a different direction.' "

Asked if he was aware this could be his last game, Favre said, "Absolutely. I'm well aware of that."

Thanks MIYH,Good stuff. I didn't really read them that way but thanks for backing up your position. Quality post.

J

 

[Aaronstory]

As a devoted Packer fan, and a massive Favre fan, it pains me to say this-

I am sick of Brett Favre. I am sick of this pathetic "I'm not sure if my heart is into it" BS. You want to play and get paid $10 mil, or you don't and you go ride your tractor.

I am so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so

sick of this.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Favre really doesn't want to stay in Green Bay, but doesn't want to be the bad guy and request his release.

Every comment he has made in the past has stated he will retire as a Green Bay Packer.

He's talking out of the both sides of his mouth. If you read between the lines, I think it's clear that doesn't want to play unless they're going to win. That doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't want to play at all.

His comments were based on frustration.

That is quite possible. I just got a bad feeling listening to some of the things he said. I'm a Packer fan, born and raised. I just felt like he was hinting at something bigger than just being frustrated. We'll see how it plays out.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Favre really doesn't want to stay in Green Bay, but doesn't want to be the bad guy and request his release.

Every comment he has made in the past has stated he will retire as a Green Bay Packer.

He's talking out of the both sides of his mouth. If you read between the lines, I think it's clear that doesn't want to play unless they're going to win. That doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't want to play at all.

Hi MIYH,Do you have some quotes on this? I don't recall reading anything that way. I think I fall into one of those that would be really surprised to see him wind up with another team. I think guys like Kirby Puckett sort of reinforce that "one team" thing and Favre just seems like that kind of guy to me. And Green Bay is definitely that kind of place.

What have you heard/read him say?

J

Not one specific quote, just a culmanation of his year's worth of interview talk. Just speculation on my part, I just get the feeling that he wants to move on if Green Bay isn't going to win. And by move on, I don't mean retirement, because Favre has said himself that he can still get it done physically.http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=388375

"His concern is he wants to win," McCarthy said.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=384771

"I don't know what he's going to do, but they need to really make a big push to tell him that they really want him back and, 'We're going to get some guys around you to try to make a run at this thing again.' "

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=382437

What's to say next year would be any different? And I'm not saying that my better days are behind me or anything like that, but there's no guarantee that next year will be better," Favre said. "And maybe the factors that contributed to our lack of success this year come up again. We have a ways to go to get back to where we were, and what direction this team wants to go may not include me - or may include me

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=381646

For the record, both say that they want Favre to return, although the theory is out there that the Packers are eager to commence reconstruction in a post-Favre era.

Would the organization actually try to run off The Man, The Myth, The Legend?

"It can happen to anyone," Favre said. "It really can. I'm not immune to it. I think that the organization and myself have a great relationship, and they can be honest with me because I've always been honest. But that could happen."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=381100

"Maybe they want to go in a different direction and they don't know how to tell Brett Favre, 'We want to go in a different direction.' "

Asked if he was aware this could be his last game, Favre said, "Absolutely. I'm well aware of that."

Thanks MIYH,Good stuff. I didn't really read them that way but thanks for backing up your position. Quality post.

J

That's cool. That my dilemma. I can't tell if I'm just being too critical of his comments, or if there really is something there. It's hard to find the middle ground when you're a fan of Favre and Green Bay.

 

[Despyzer]

There's no way he'll retire before he gets his roster bonus. After that, he'll try to determine whether people are making a big enough fuss or him leaving or not. If not, he'll bring it up to the press a few more times. If there is no way he can draw enough attention to himself that way, then he may retire.

I think he'll play another year regardless. His ego can't be stroked sitting at home.

 

[CalBear]

When you are in the twilight of your career, why go somewhere and embarrass yourself like Namath, Montana, and the handful of others that decided to jump ship to another city because in their own minds they thought they still had 'it'?

Montana went to the playoffs both his years in KC, including to the AFC championship game in 1993. He had 60.7% completions, 29 TD and 16 INT, and averaged 217 yards passing in 25 games. There's nothing at all embarassing about that, and he got to play the game he loved for two additional years that the Niners wouldn't have given him.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

As a devoted Packer fan, and a massive Favre fan, it pains me to say this-

I am sick of Brett Favre. I am sick of this pathetic "I'm not sure if my heart is into it" BS. You want to play and get paid $10 mil, or you don't and you go ride your tractor.

I am so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so

sick of this.

Precisely why I think he washes away all of this with an announcement this weekend. And look for a story to come out making it clear that Ted Thompson knew his intentions in early March and that he was given certain assurances by the team on how the offseason would unfold to his liking. He'll add that he's rejuvenated about the team's plan to compete THIS YEAR, and likes the blueprint the team laid out to him. He'll say that all along his goal was to decide by Fan Fest and he really wanted the Fans to be the first to hear.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

There's no way he'll retire before he gets his roster bonus. After that, he'll try to determine whether people are making a big enough fuss or him leaving or not. If not, he'll bring it up to the press a few more times. If there is no way he can draw enough attention to himself that way, then he may retire.

I think he'll play another year regardless. His ego can't be stroked sitting at home.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Redhots GM]

Jim Caston, local Madison ESPN radio show The Bull Pen, was calling it a "Cat and Mouse game" the other night. Favre wants to see what the Packers do in FA before he decides, and the Packers want to know what Favre will do before they get too involved in FA.

Sounds like Thompson will go ahead and make the FA moves he feels best for the team, but I'd hate to see all the FA QB's get nabbed up before Favre makes a decision to retire. I don't believe Thompson will let that happen and if it comes down to it, he will demand Favre's decision or move on as if Favre is gone.

If I'm Thompson I need to know what Favre will do. I'm certainly not going to assume that he's staying and dip into FA accordingly. Nor am I assuming that he's gone.When crunch time comes I would tell Favre to **** or get off the pot. This is not Intramural football we're talkin' about.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

As a devoted Packer fan, and a massive Favre fan, it pains me to say this-

I am sick of Brett Favre. I am sick of this pathetic "I'm not sure if my heart is into it" BS. You want to play and get paid $10 mil, or you don't and you go ride your tractor.

I am so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so

sick of this.

Here we go again......the only time he has made any comments about his heart not being into it was in the interview with Mort.You haters really need to get a grasp of what Favre is about.

 

[Despyzer]

Here we go again......the only time he has made any comments about his heart not being into it was in the interview with Mort.

You haters really need to get a grasp of what Favre is about.

Maybe your man-crush is getting in the way of your ability to see what's really going on.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Here we go again......the only time he has made any comments about his heart not being into it was in the interview with Mort.

You haters really need to get a grasp of what Favre is about.

Maybe your man-crush is getting in the way of your ability to see what's really going on.

at the jealous haters

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Here we go again......the only time he has made any comments about his heart not being into it was in the interview with Mort.

You haters really need to get a grasp of what Favre is about.

Maybe your man-crush is getting in the way of your ability to see what's really going on.

Tell us about all the times Favre has made comments about his heart not being into it since you indicated it happens all the time.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

Maybe your man-crush is getting in the way of your ability to see what's really going on.

Maybe you'll feel pretty foolish having bought into all these media reports that Favre hasn't yet decided, and he's keeping the team at arm's length. Favre knows how bad these reports make him look. He'll clear it all up in one fowl swoop.

 

[Despyzer]

at the jealous haters

You are right! I wish MY quarterback threw 29 INTs last year! I'm SO jealous.

 

[Despyzer]

Maybe you'll feel pretty foolish having bought into all these media reports that Favre hasn't yet decided, and he's keeping the team at arm's length. Favre knows how bad these reports make him look. He'll clear it all up in one fowl swoop.

Freudian slip?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

at the jealous haters

You are right! I wish MY quarterback threw 29 INTs last year! I'm SO jealous.

Does your mom know you are on the computer?

 

[Despyzer]

Does your mom know you are on the computer?

This is an excellent strategy to use when you have nothing football-related to add to the conversation. Nice job.

 

[Couch Potato]

Do all Favre threads really have to deteriorate like this? Joe asked a simple question. Maybe we should keep it on topic.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

Maybe you'll feel pretty foolish having bought into all these media reports that Favre hasn't yet decided, and he's keeping the team at arm's length. Favre knows how bad these reports make him look. He'll clear it all up in one fowl swoop.

Freudian slip?

Nope...that's the expression

 

[Despyzer]

Do all Favre threads really have to deteriorate like this? Joe asked a simple question. Maybe we should keep it on topic.

Excellent point.

I think he'll play another year regardless.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

When you are in the twilight of your career, why go somewhere and embarrass yourself like Namath, Montana, and the handful of others that decided to jump ship to another city because in their own minds they thought they still had 'it'?

Montana went to the playoffs both his years in KC, including to the AFC championship game in 1993. He had 60.7% completions, 29 TD and 16 INT, and averaged 217 yards passing in 25 games. There's nothing at all embarassing about that, and he got to play the game he loved for two additional years that the Niners wouldn't have given him.

Plus he and Kansas City beat Steve Young and San Francisco in their regular season head to head matchup.

 

[glock]

Maybe you'll feel pretty foolish having bought into all these media reports that Favre hasn't yet decided, and he's keeping the team at arm's length. Favre knows how bad these reports make him look. He'll clear it all up in one fowl swoop.

Freudian slip?

Nope...that's the expression

Linky

ONE FELL SWOOP

[Q] From Joe Davis and Myrna Finnell: “I have always wondered about the expression one fell swoop. What can you tell me about it?”

[A] The phrase is one of those fixed expressions that we hardly think about most of the time. It means all at once, suddenly. It’s been around in the language for at least 400 years. Shakespeare is first recorded as using it, in Macbeth: when Macduff hears that his family has been murdered, he says in disbelief:

All my pretty ones?

Did you say all? O hell-kite! All?

What, all my pretty chickens and their dam

At one fell swoop?

The image that Shakespeare’s audience would have brought to mind at once was a falcon plummeting out of the sky to snatch its prey (like the kite for example, which was a bird of prey long before it became an aerial machine). You might guess that fell has something to do with fall, but it hasn’t. It actually means some thing of terrible evil or deadly ferocity. We now never see it outside this fixed phrase (or perhaps only occasionally in poetic use) but once it was a common word in its own right. One of its relatives is still about: felon, which comes from the same Old French source, fel, evil. Originally a felon was a cruel or wicked person; only later did the word evolve to mean a person who commits a serious crime.

There are actually four fell words in English; apart from this one, there is the verb meaning to cut down (intimately linked with fall), the one meaning an animal skin (as in the obsolete trade of fellmonger), and the one meaning a hill (as in the fells of Cumbria). They all come from different source words.