How many games will Suh be suspended? (1 Viewer)

[mad sweeney]

reports on twitter saying he's getting a 2 game suspension.

@AdamSchefter Adam SchefterLions DT Ndamukong Suh is expected to be suspended at least two games.

That's absurd. Suh should've stomped on the guy's nuts, that's apparently not a suspendable act. I think Goodell goes down in history as the worst commissioner of all time in the NFL, assuming it survives his reign.

Survive his reign? Goodell has done/doing more to grow the league under his watch. I'm not a fan of some of the rule changes under his tenure but he's doing a very good job one the marketing/growing the business.

Like I said above, NFL in it's current form as an American sport with big hits and defense and receptions. Money making, sure it'd be impossible to stop that flow. But I think he'll alienate generations of viewers in his plans to bring in more viewers. His overseas expansion plans, fines, penalties for textbook plays, excessive rules for receptions and head hits, oppressive rules against defense etc.. are all detrimental and cause massive fan reaction every week. He works for the owners and his job is to rake in as much money for them as he can, but I really find myself disenfranchised with the league on an almost weekly basis and I'm not alone.

 

[thayman]

reports on twitter saying he's getting a 2 game suspension.

@AdamSchefter Adam SchefterLions DT Ndamukong Suh is expected to be suspended at least two games.

That's absurd. Suh should've stomped on the guy's nuts, that's apparently not a suspendable act. I think Goodell goes down in history as the worst commissioner of all time in the NFL, assuming it survives his reign.

Survive his reign? Goodell has done/doing more to grow the league under his watch. I'm not a fan of some of the rule changes under his tenure but he's doing a very good job one the marketing/growing the business.

Like I said above, NFL in it's current form as an American sport with big hits and defense and receptions. Money making, sure it'd be impossible to stop that flow. But I think he'll alienate generations of viewers in his plans to bring in more viewers. His overseas expansion plans, fines, penalties for textbook plays, excessive rules for receptions and head hits, oppressive rules against defense etc.. are all detrimental and cause massive fan reaction every week. He works for the owners and his job is to rake in as much money for them as he can, but I really find myself disenfranchised with the league on an almost weekly basis and I'm not alone.

I actually think expanding oversees could have a beneficial effect. In order to compete with Rugby in the UK I would think they would want to see some big time hits.

 

[mad sweeney]

reports on twitter saying he's getting a 2 game suspension.

@AdamSchefter Adam SchefterLions DT Ndamukong Suh is expected to be suspended at least two games.

That's absurd. Suh should've stomped on the guy's nuts, that's apparently not a suspendable act. I think Goodell goes down in history as the worst commissioner of all time in the NFL, assuming it survives his reign.

Survive his reign? Goodell has done/doing more to grow the league under his watch. I'm not a fan of some of the rule changes under his tenure but he's doing a very good job one the marketing/growing the business.

Like I said above, NFL in it's current form as an American sport with big hits and defense and receptions. Money making, sure it'd be impossible to stop that flow. But I think he'll alienate generations of viewers in his plans to bring in more viewers. His overseas expansion plans, fines, penalties for textbook plays, excessive rules for receptions and head hits, oppressive rules against defense etc.. are all detrimental and cause massive fan reaction every week. He works for the owners and his job is to rake in as much money for them as he can, but I really find myself disenfranchised with the league on an almost weekly basis and I'm not alone.

I actually think expanding oversees could have a beneficial effect. In order to compete with Rugby in the UK I would think they would want to see some big time hits.

I don't see any benefit other than to line Goodell's and the Grazer's pockets. It's a scheduling nightmare, a travel nightmare, and takes the biggest game of the year out of reach of 99% of the fans that would normally go. Unless they do something next year to reduce the number of flags for good hits and start taking the receiver's actions (like ducking their head) into account, I think it's a clear indication that just moving a team to London will not change the terrible hitting rules that've taken effect recently.

 

[thayman]

reports on twitter saying he's getting a 2 game suspension.

@AdamSchefter Adam SchefterLions DT Ndamukong Suh is expected to be suspended at least two games.

That's absurd. Suh should've stomped on the guy's nuts, that's apparently not a suspendable act. I think Goodell goes down in history as the worst commissioner of all time in the NFL, assuming it survives his reign.

Survive his reign? Goodell has done/doing more to grow the league under his watch. I'm not a fan of some of the rule changes under his tenure but he's doing a very good job one the marketing/growing the business.

Like I said above, NFL in it's current form as an American sport with big hits and defense and receptions. Money making, sure it'd be impossible to stop that flow. But I think he'll alienate generations of viewers in his plans to bring in more viewers. His overseas expansion plans, fines, penalties for textbook plays, excessive rules for receptions and head hits, oppressive rules against defense etc.. are all detrimental and cause massive fan reaction every week. He works for the owners and his job is to rake in as much money for them as he can, but I really find myself disenfranchised with the league on an almost weekly basis and I'm not alone.

I actually think expanding oversees could have a beneficial effect. In order to compete with Rugby in the UK I would think they would want to see some big time hits.

I don't see any benefit other than to line Goodell's and the Grazer's pockets. It's a scheduling nightmare, a travel nightmare, and takes the biggest game of the year out of reach of 99% of the fans that would normally go. Unless they do something next year to reduce the number of flags for good hits and start taking the receiver's actions (like ducking their head) into account, I think it's a clear indication that just moving a team to London will not change the terrible hitting rules that've taken effect recently.

Well I'm certainly opposed to a Super Bowl in London. I don't mind a game or two being played over there, but a Super Bowl there is moronic.

 

[PatsFanCT]

reports on twitter saying he's getting a 2 game suspension.

@AdamSchefter Adam SchefterLions DT Ndamukong Suh is expected to be suspended at least two games.

That's absurd. Suh should've stomped on the guy's nuts, that's apparently not a suspendable act. I think Goodell goes down in history as the worst commissioner of all time in the NFL, assuming it survives his reign.

Survive his reign? Goodell has done/doing more to grow the league under his watch. I'm not a fan of some of the rule changes under his tenure but he's doing a very good job one the marketing/growing the business.

Like I said above, NFL in it's current form as an American sport with big hits and defense and receptions. Money making, sure it'd be impossible to stop that flow. But I think he'll alienate generations of viewers in his plans to bring in more viewers. His overseas expansion plans, fines, penalties for textbook plays, excessive rules for receptions and head hits, oppressive rules against defense etc.. are all detrimental and cause massive fan reaction every week. He works for the owners and his job is to rake in as much money for them as he can, but I really find myself disenfranchised with the league on an almost weekly basis and I'm not alone.

I actually think expanding oversees could have a beneficial effect. In order to compete with Rugby in the UK I would think they would want to see some big time hits.

I don't see any benefit other than to line Goodell's and the Grazer's pockets. It's a scheduling nightmare, a travel nightmare, and takes the biggest game of the year out of reach of 99% of the fans that would normally go. Unless they do something next year to reduce the number of flags for good hits and start taking the receiver's actions (like ducking their head) into account, I think it's a clear indication that just moving a team to London will not change the terrible hitting rules that've taken effect recently.

I agree with you and don't think overseas expansion has any benefit either, but everything you just described Goodell doing is exactly why the NFL will flourish in the future. This may not be our brand of football, but the 70's are over, and they ain't coming back. This is the new NFL and it's here to stay. You might as well embrace it and enjoy it for what it is. I'd much rather see great offenses than the Sanchez-Tebow disaster of a couple weeks ago with 2nd and 3rd string quarterbacks every team would no doubt be starting if they never got rid of the headhunting.I know there will be those that say it was great in the past, so why change it now, but players are bigger and much, much stronger than they were back then.

 

[mad sweeney]

reports on twitter saying he's getting a 2 game suspension.

@AdamSchefter Adam SchefterLions DT Ndamukong Suh is expected to be suspended at least two games.

That's absurd. Suh should've stomped on the guy's nuts, that's apparently not a suspendable act. I think Goodell goes down in history as the worst commissioner of all time in the NFL, assuming it survives his reign.

Survive his reign? Goodell has done/doing more to grow the league under his watch. I'm not a fan of some of the rule changes under his tenure but he's doing a very good job one the marketing/growing the business.

Like I said above, NFL in it's current form as an American sport with big hits and defense and receptions. Money making, sure it'd be impossible to stop that flow. But I think he'll alienate generations of viewers in his plans to bring in more viewers. His overseas expansion plans, fines, penalties for textbook plays, excessive rules for receptions and head hits, oppressive rules against defense etc.. are all detrimental and cause massive fan reaction every week. He works for the owners and his job is to rake in as much money for them as he can, but I really find myself disenfranchised with the league on an almost weekly basis and I'm not alone.

I actually think expanding oversees could have a beneficial effect. In order to compete with Rugby in the UK I would think they would want to see some big time hits.

I don't see any benefit other than to line Goodell's and the Grazer's pockets. It's a scheduling nightmare, a travel nightmare, and takes the biggest game of the year out of reach of 99% of the fans that would normally go. Unless they do something next year to reduce the number of flags for good hits and start taking the receiver's actions (like ducking their head) into account, I think it's a clear indication that just moving a team to London will not change the terrible hitting rules that've taken effect recently.

I agree with you and don't think overseas expansion has any benefit either, but everything you just described Goodell doing is exactly why the NFL will flourish in the future. This may not be our brand of football, but the 70's are over, and they ain't coming back. This is the new NFL and it's here to stay. You might as well embrace it and enjoy it for what it is. I'd much rather see great offenses than the Sanchez-Tebow disaster of a couple weeks ago with 2nd and 3rd string quarterbacks every team would no doubt be starting if they never got rid of the headhunting.I know there will be those that say it was great in the past, so why change it now, but players are bigger and much, much stronger than they were back then.

I'm talking about football 5 years ago. I don't mind getting rid of headhunting. But they're not only getting rid of that, but also penalizing perfectly legal or unavoidable hits (like receivers ducking their heads). Coupled with even glancing blows to a QB's helmet and other special protections. I'm perfectly fine with the theory behind most of their protective measures recently, but the execution of them has so far been piss poor.

 

[thayman]

reports on twitter saying he's getting a 2 game suspension.

@AdamSchefter Adam SchefterLions DT Ndamukong Suh is expected to be suspended at least two games.

That's absurd. Suh should've stomped on the guy's nuts, that's apparently not a suspendable act. I think Goodell goes down in history as the worst commissioner of all time in the NFL, assuming it survives his reign.

Survive his reign? Goodell has done/doing more to grow the league under his watch. I'm not a fan of some of the rule changes under his tenure but he's doing a very good job one the marketing/growing the business.

Like I said above, NFL in it's current form as an American sport with big hits and defense and receptions. Money making, sure it'd be impossible to stop that flow. But I think he'll alienate generations of viewers in his plans to bring in more viewers. His overseas expansion plans, fines, penalties for textbook plays, excessive rules for receptions and head hits, oppressive rules against defense etc.. are all detrimental and cause massive fan reaction every week. He works for the owners and his job is to rake in as much money for them as he can, but I really find myself disenfranchised with the league on an almost weekly basis and I'm not alone.

I actually think expanding oversees could have a beneficial effect. In order to compete with Rugby in the UK I would think they would want to see some big time hits.

I don't see any benefit other than to line Goodell's and the Grazer's pockets. It's a scheduling nightmare, a travel nightmare, and takes the biggest game of the year out of reach of 99% of the fans that would normally go. Unless they do something next year to reduce the number of flags for good hits and start taking the receiver's actions (like ducking their head) into account, I think it's a clear indication that just moving a team to London will not change the terrible hitting rules that've taken effect recently.

I agree with you and don't think overseas expansion has any benefit either, but everything you just described Goodell doing is exactly why the NFL will flourish in the future. This may not be our brand of football, but the 70's are over, and they ain't coming back. This is the new NFL and it's here to stay. You might as well embrace it and enjoy it for what it is. I'd much rather see great offenses than the Sanchez-Tebow disaster of a couple weeks ago with 2nd and 3rd string quarterbacks every team would no doubt be starting if they never got rid of the headhunting.I know there will be those that say it was great in the past, so why change it now, but players are bigger and much, much stronger than they were back then.

I'm talking about football 5 years ago. I don't mind getting rid of headhunting. But they're not only getting rid of that, but also penalizing perfectly legal or unavoidable hits (like receivers ducking their heads). Coupled with even glancing blows to a QB's helmet and other special protections. I'm perfectly fine with the theory behind most of their protective measures recently, but the execution of them has so far been piss poor.

I know this is getting completely off topic but when the NFL implements a rule change do they even talk to the refs? I know in Baseball they always talk to the umpire's union when disucussing rule changes.

 

[sho nuff]

To all those overreacting to the heat of the moment. We'll do a little game.

What is the most timley/similar infraction to what Suh did how did the NFL respond there?

Last week (maybe 2 weeks ago) that dude looking straight at a dude o the ground who was not 'antagonizing him' (and not even behind him as was Suhs) and stomped a guy in the nuts. He was suspended how many games? Zero.

Though because of the media/it being on thanksgiving the league might feel compelled to toss Suh for a game, but if this was on a Sunday buried in 10 other games it wouldn't be nearly the big deal it is b/c it happens on TNF and sportscenter/NFL network have to fill content.

Just for ####s and giggles, sho nuff. Why don't you answer to this on point and not with a red herring or personal attack.

Its been answered.Robison was immediately apologetic. I guess now that Suh has apologized this point is moot. Unless there is some rule that an apology must occur immediately, which there isn't.

It was not on the huge national TV showcase of a Thanksgiving game. Funny, I was unaware there were different rules for 'showcae games'. Oh that's right, there aren't.

Robison was not a guy seen as dirty by many around including the league with multiple unsportsmanlike/roughing type penalties. Once again irrelevant to the punishment process as delineated under the CBA.

You talking personal attack (when I have not done so...and you have) is laughable. I never said I didn't make any personal attacks, those are pretty standard among rivals. I was just asking you to specifically address this point without just mocking me.

BTW, I would not have thought it was out of line Robison had been suspended). Me either truth be told. But that was how the league handled it, and as such they now have established a precedent for future acts. I often disagree ith precedents set by judges/arbitrators. Doesn't mean the precedent hasn't been established.

Suh apologized to his teammates, team, and fans for letting them down. Not for the actual act did he?If you don't think Goodell will act while taking the things mentioned into consideration because you think you found the rule, you are very naive.

Robison's issue did not set any precedent for this act...and its not a court of law...its the court of Goodell.

We get it...you are a Lions fan.

He gave a second apology. Are you reading this thread? Goddell doesn't make the decision. Ray Anderson does. That delineation was in the rule I keep posting that no one cares to read or address, much like you are.

Where in that 2nd apology does he do anymore than what I said?Or are you not reading what he actually said.

You can keep thinking that big rule is the end all be all...and I will continue thinking you are a naive homer holding onto hope that he would not be suspended.

 

[RandyDB]

reports on twitter saying he's getting a 2 game suspension.

@AdamSchefter Adam SchefterLions DT Ndamukong Suh is expected to be suspended at least two games.

That's absurd. Suh should've stomped on the guy's nuts, that's apparently not a suspendable act. I think Goodell goes down in history as the worst commissioner of all time in the NFL, assuming it survives his reign.

Survive his reign? Goodell has done/doing more to grow the league under his watch. I'm not a fan of some of the rule changes under his tenure but he's doing a very good job one the marketing/growing the business.

Like I said above, NFL in it's current form as an American sport with big hits and defense and receptions. Money making, sure it'd be impossible to stop that flow. But I think he'll alienate generations of viewers in his plans to bring in more viewers. His overseas expansion plans, fines, penalties for textbook plays, excessive rules for receptions and head hits, oppressive rules against defense etc.. are all detrimental and cause massive fan reaction every week. He works for the owners and his job is to rake in as much money for them as he can, but I really find myself disenfranchised with the league on an almost weekly basis and I'm not alone.

Wait untill the NFL decides to place impact sensors (accelorameters) inside helmets. Then they can regulate fines based on the impact of a helmet to helmet hit. They may even decide helmet to helmet hits in volving RBs or linemen are too risky for the NFL.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

How many games did Finnegan and Andre Johnson suspended for last season for an all out fist fight?

 

[AmosMoses]

How many games we Finnegan and Andre Johnson suspended for last season for an all out fist fight?

Hilarious Lions fans. How many games did Michael Vick get for killing dogs???!!!!11!?!?!1ONEJUANWONONEONE Surely that's worse than a non-stomp ZOMG!!!!!>>!>!!

 

[sho nuff]

How many games did Finnegan and Andre Johnson suspended for last season for an all out fist fight?

What does 2 guys going face to face in a game that was hardly watched have to do with a guy (with multiple fines this year for his actions on the field) kicking a guy while he is on the ground in a featured game on National TV?

 

[Addai's Adidas]

How many games did Finnegan and Andre Johnson suspended for last season for an all out fist fight?

What does 2 guys going face to face in a game that was hardly watched have to do with a guy (with multiple fines this year for his actions on the field) kicking a guy while he is on the ground in a featured game on National TV?

As I recall Finnegan was on his hands and knees while Andre pounded him.

 

[smackdaddies]

How many games did Finnegan and Andre Johnson suspended for last season for an all out fist fight?

What does 2 guys going face to face in a game that was hardly watched have to do with a guy (with multiple fines this year for his actions on the field) kicking a guy while he is on the ground (after slamming his head into the ground four times) while being pulled off the guy in a featured game on National TV?

fixedThis wasn't just a feature game - it was the only game on, starting off what should of been one of the best days of football on Thanksgiving ever.

 

[DoubleG]

How many games did Finnegan and Andre Johnson suspended for last season for an all out fist fight?

What does 2 guys going face to face in a game that was hardly watched have to do with a guy (with multiple fines this year for his actions on the field) kicking a guy while he is on the ground (after slamming his head into the ground four times) while being pulled off the guy in a featured game on National TV?

fixedThis wasn't just a feature game - it was the only game on, starting off what should ofhave been one of the best days of football on Thanksgiving ever.

Fixed. Carry on. [/smoo]

 

[mad sweeney]

How many games did Finnegan and Andre Johnson suspended for last season for an all out fist fight?

What does 2 guys going face to face in a game that was hardly watched have to do with a guy (with multiple fines this year for his actions on the field) kicking a guy while he is on the ground (after slamming his head into the ground four times) while being pulled off the guy in a featured game on National TV?

fixedThis wasn't just a feature game - it was the only game on, starting off what should of been one of the best days of football on Thanksgiving ever.

"slamming"

 

[Quez]

Not suspending Suh would really help the Falcons so I don't expect him to be suspended.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

reports on twitter saying he's getting a 2 game suspension.

@AdamSchefter Adam SchefterLions DT Ndamukong Suh is expected to be suspended at least two games.

lol. So the league has said that Ray Anderson isn't even reviewing the tape until all week 12 games are done, and now because of Adam Schefter's sources (when this is a one man decision) it's gonna be two games? Unless his sources include Ray Andersons wife and golfing buddies, Schefter is just speculating like the rest of us.

Hipple> He got 2 games.

 

[sho nuff]

reports on twitter saying he's getting a 2 game suspension.

@AdamSchefter Adam SchefterLions DT Ndamukong Suh is expected to be suspended at least two games.

lol. So the league has said that Ray Anderson isn't even reviewing the tape until all week 12 games are done, and now because of Adam Schefter's sources (when this is a one man decision) it's gonna be two games? Unless his sources include Ray Andersons wife and golfing buddies, Schefter is just speculating like the rest of us.

Hipple> He got 2 games.

But he read the rule...he posted it...it can't be 2 games.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

What a wuss league - last night Will Smith flagged for leading with the helmet on Nancy Manning even though all he used was his hands. This morning they announce Suh gets a two game suspension for seriously injuring the GB lineman...oh, that's right, he wasn't even hurt. Sick of the prima donna rules - lets return to the days of Lester Hayes, Conrad Dobler...hell at this point I'd even take a Ronnie Lott or Rodney Harrison or Steve Atwater to keep it real.

 

[Rick James]

Not suspending Suh would really help the Falcons so I don't expect him to be suspended.

this is an odd post

 

[sho nuff]

What a wuss league - last night Will Smith flagged for leading with the helmet on Nancy Manning even though all he used was his hands. This morning they announce Suh gets a two game suspension for seriously injuring the GB lineman...oh, that's right, he wasn't even hurt. Sick of the prima donna rules - lets return to the days of Lester Hayes, Conrad Dobler...hell at this point I'd even take a Ronnie Lott or Rodney Harrison or Steve Atwater to keep it real.

So a guy needs to be hurt for someone to be suspended? Yeah, lets return to the days of all those guys. How many of them have major medical issues these days?You think the NFL wants to keep setting themselves up to pay more of these medical bills going forward?How long can you let a guy continue to play what is seen to many as dirty? Fines aren't helping. He had to be sat down.It was a no brainer for the league.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

What a wuss league - last night Will Smith flagged for leading with the helmet on Nancy Manning even though all he used was his hands. This morning they announce Suh gets a two game suspension for seriously injuring the GB lineman...oh, that's right, he wasn't even hurt. Sick of the prima donna rules - lets return to the days of Lester Hayes, Conrad Dobler...hell at this point I'd even take a Ronnie Lott or Rodney Harrison or Steve Atwater to keep it real.

So a guy needs to be hurt for someone to be suspended? Yeah, lets return to the days of all those guys. How many of them have major medical issues these days?You think the NFL wants to keep setting themselves up to pay more of these medical bills going forward?How long can you let a guy continue to play what is seen to many as dirty? Fines aren't helping. He had to be sat down.It was a no brainer for the league.

I want to be entertained...if they are willing to risk their bodies to entertain me so be it. You think the multi-million dollars they are making wouldn't cover a little medical? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Risk reward should be linked to compensation. Bring back the gladiators.

 

[sho nuff]

What a wuss league - last night Will Smith flagged for leading with the helmet on Nancy Manning even though all he used was his hands. This morning they announce Suh gets a two game suspension for seriously injuring the GB lineman...oh, that's right, he wasn't even hurt. Sick of the prima donna rules - lets return to the days of Lester Hayes, Conrad Dobler...hell at this point I'd even take a Ronnie Lott or Rodney Harrison or Steve Atwater to keep it real.

So a guy needs to be hurt for someone to be suspended? Yeah, lets return to the days of all those guys. How many of them have major medical issues these days?You think the NFL wants to keep setting themselves up to pay more of these medical bills going forward?How long can you let a guy continue to play what is seen to many as dirty? Fines aren't helping. He had to be sat down.It was a no brainer for the league.

I want to be entertained...if they are willing to risk their bodies to entertain me so be it. You think the multi-million dollars they are making wouldn't cover a little medical? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Risk reward should be linked to compensation. Bring back the gladiators.

Im entertained more when guys are not stomping on other players...then I am by dirty play.Big hits are fine.Guys laying on the turf motionless while trainers attend to them is not entertaining.Yes, some of it has gotten out of hand with the flags...but come on.Its a wuss league for a guy getting suspended over what Suh did and has done?

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

What a wuss league - last night Will Smith flagged for leading with the helmet on Nancy Manning even though all he used was his hands. This morning they announce Suh gets a two game suspension for seriously injuring the GB lineman...oh, that's right, he wasn't even hurt. Sick of the prima donna rules - lets return to the days of Lester Hayes, Conrad Dobler...hell at this point I'd even take a Ronnie Lott or Rodney Harrison or Steve Atwater to keep it real.

So a guy needs to be hurt for someone to be suspended? Yeah, lets return to the days of all those guys. How many of them have major medical issues these days?You think the NFL wants to keep setting themselves up to pay more of these medical bills going forward?How long can you let a guy continue to play what is seen to many as dirty? Fines aren't helping. He had to be sat down.It was a no brainer for the league.

I want to be entertained...if they are willing to risk their bodies to entertain me so be it. You think the multi-million dollars they are making wouldn't cover a little medical? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Risk reward should be linked to compensation. Bring back the gladiators.

Im entertained more when guys are not stomping on other players...then I am by dirty play.Big hits are fine.Guys laying on the turf motionless while trainers attend to them is not entertaining.Yes, some of it has gotten out of hand with the flags...but come on.Its a wuss league for a guy getting suspended over what Suh did and has done?

He wasn't injured. I think spearing should be a suspendable offense - but it apparently isn't. People are so upset about a "stomp" (using that term very loosely) than they are actions that literally could lead to paralysis or death. Get your priorities right, man.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Who could ever worry for the security of famous multi-millionaire Evan Deitrich-Smith?

 

[sho nuff]

He wasn't injured. I think spearing should be a suspendable offense - but it apparently isn't. People are so upset about a "stomp" (using that term very loosely) than they are actions that literally could lead to paralysis or death. Get your priorities right, man.

Why using the term loosely...its accurate to what Suh did.I think actions that could lead to paralysis or death are worse sure...but there is also a difference in a split second reacting during the course of a play that lines up helmets than there is a stomp like that.And while it may not lead to paralysis or death, it very well could have hurt the guy pretty bad from stomping on his arm. Arms seem pretty important to offensive linemen. Add in that this guy is a backup fighting for a job each year and you have a multi million dollar 2nd round pick that could have messed that guy's career up bad.Its a pattern here...And how are my priorities not right? Because I don't want to go to gladiator days as you do?Im not "upset" about the stomp. It was ridiculous and and the appropriate action was taken.

 

[mad sweeney]

Weak. Next time Suh, kick him in the nuts, that's not a suspendable act.

 

[mad sweeney]

What a wuss league - last night Will Smith flagged for leading with the helmet on Nancy Manning even though all he used was his hands. This morning they announce Suh gets a two game suspension for seriously injuring the GB lineman...oh, that's right, he wasn't even hurt. Sick of the prima donna rules - lets return to the days of Lester Hayes, Conrad Dobler...hell at this point I'd even take a Ronnie Lott or Rodney Harrison or Steve Atwater to keep it real.

So a guy needs to be hurt for someone to be suspended? Yeah, lets return to the days of all those guys. How many of them have major medical issues these days?

You think the NFL wants to keep setting themselves up to pay more of these medical bills going forward?

How long can you let a guy continue to play what is seen to many as dirty? Fines aren't helping. He had to be sat down.

It was a no brainer for the league.

I want to be entertained...if they are willing to risk their bodies to entertain me so be it. You think the multi-million dollars they are making wouldn't cover a little medical? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Risk reward should be linked to compensation. Bring back the gladiators.

Im entertained more when guys are not stomping on other players...then I am by dirty play.Big hits are fine.

Guys laying on the turf motionless while trainers attend to them is not entertaining.

Yes, some of it has gotten out of hand with the flags...but come on.

Its a wuss league for a guy getting suspended over what Suh did and has done?

He wasn't injured. I think spearing should be a suspendable offense - but it apparently isn't. People are so upset about a "stomp" (using that term very loosely) than they are actions that literally could lead to paralysis or death. Get your priorities right, man.

Just because he didn't make good contact doesn't mean it wasn't a stomp.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

He wasn't injured. I think spearing should be a suspendable offense - but it apparently isn't. People are so upset about a "stomp" (using that term very loosely) than they are actions that literally could lead to paralysis or death. Get your priorities right, man.

Why using the term loosely...its accurate to what Suh did.I think actions that could lead to paralysis or death are worse sure...but there is also a difference in a split second reacting during the course of a play that lines up helmets than there is a stomp like that.And while it may not lead to paralysis or death, it very well could have hurt the guy pretty bad from stomping on his arm. Arms seem pretty important to offensive linemen. Add in that this guy is a backup fighting for a job each year and you have a multi million dollar 2nd round pick that could have messed that guy's career up bad.Its a pattern here...And how are my priorities not right? Because I don't want to go to gladiator days as you do?Im not "upset" about the stomp. It was ridiculous and and the appropriate action was taken.

I am not minimizing his actions - I am pointing out the hypocrisy of the system. Pitt-KC, during coinflip Wallace swings at the KC guys head. No problem, just boys being boys. Practically every game you see after the whistle pushing/shoving/swinging...esp in rivalry games. Look at last nights game where Phillips (I think) spears Graham...could have killed him. Led to a 15 yard penalty - maybe a fine forthcoming....but to me THAT is the stuff you need to suspend for. I get the fact that in this case the action itself was compounded by his previous actions and consequent perception. So I am fine with the suspension - what I ma not fine with is the thugs that continually head hunt and walk away with a 15 yard penalty a wink and a nudge.

 

[GregR]

What a wuss league - last night Will Smith flagged for leading with the helmet on Nancy Manning even though all he used was his hands. This morning they announce Suh gets a two game suspension for seriously injuring the GB lineman...oh, that's right, he wasn't even hurt. Sick of the prima donna rules - lets return to the days of Lester Hayes, Conrad Dobler...hell at this point I'd even take a Ronnie Lott or Rodney Harrison or Steve Atwater to keep it real.

Ironic that you mention Rodney Harrison in that, as Harrison said Suh needed to be suspended because fines weren't enough to get Suh's attention. In addition to his comments in the PFT story, in an ESPN story he had said the following about himself as a player:

"I was a young player once and I was very prideful and arrogant, just like Ndamukong Suh," Harrison said. "But I didn't learn until the commissioner handed me a suspension. Then I really understood the impact of what it did to my teammates in that locker room."

 

[Reepicheep]

Weak. Next time Suh, kick him in the nuts, that's not a suspendable act.

If Suh had kicked someone in the nuts I'd wager the suspension would have been the same. He's a repeat offender and the fines weren't getting through to him.

 

[Burl]

Weak. Next time Suh, kick him in the nuts, that's not a suspendable act.

If Suh had kicked someone in the nuts I'd wager the suspension would have been the same. He's a repeat offender and the fines weren't getting through to him.

Exactly! He was suspended because the fines were not getting through to him. It was not because of the stomp.

 

[DesmondBishop]

What a wuss league - last night Will Smith flagged for leading with the helmet on Nancy Manning even though all he used was his hands. This morning they announce Suh gets a two game suspension for seriously injuring the GB lineman...oh, that's right, he wasn't even hurt. Sick of the prima donna rules - lets return to the days of Lester Hayes, Conrad Dobler...hell at this point I'd even take a Ronnie Lott or Rodney Harrison or Steve Atwater to keep it real.

So a guy needs to be hurt for someone to be suspended? Yeah, lets return to the days of all those guys. How many of them have major medical issues these days?You think the NFL wants to keep setting themselves up to pay more of these medical bills going forward?How long can you let a guy continue to play what is seen to many as dirty? Fines aren't helping. He had to be sat down.It was a no brainer for the league.

I want to be entertained...if they are willing to risk their bodies to entertain me so be it. You think the multi-million dollars they are making wouldn't cover a little medical? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Risk reward should be linked to compensation. Bring back the gladiators.

Im entertained more when guys are not stomping on other players...then I am by dirty play.Big hits are fine.Guys laying on the turf motionless while trainers attend to them is not entertaining.Yes, some of it has gotten out of hand with the flags...but come on.Its a wuss league for a guy getting suspended over what Suh did and has done?

He wasn't injured. I think spearing should be a suspendable offense - but it apparently isn't. People are so upset about a "stomp" (using that term very loosely) than they are actions that literally could lead to paralysis or death. Get your priorities right, man.

Maybe football is not for you since it isn't going to tolerate dirty players like Suh. You should check out some MMA, lots of blood and face smashing, kicking is totally legal and expected and guys can really kick each others butts.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

What a wuss league - last night Will Smith flagged for leading with the helmet on Nancy Manning even though all he used was his hands. This morning they announce Suh gets a two game suspension for seriously injuring the GB lineman...oh, that's right, he wasn't even hurt. Sick of the prima donna rules - lets return to the days of Lester Hayes, Conrad Dobler...hell at this point I'd even take a Ronnie Lott or Rodney Harrison or Steve Atwater to keep it real.

So a guy needs to be hurt for someone to be suspended? Yeah, lets return to the days of all those guys. How many of them have major medical issues these days?You think the NFL wants to keep setting themselves up to pay more of these medical bills going forward?How long can you let a guy continue to play what is seen to many as dirty? Fines aren't helping. He had to be sat down.It was a no brainer for the league.

I want to be entertained...if they are willing to risk their bodies to entertain me so be it. You think the multi-million dollars they are making wouldn't cover a little medical? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Risk reward should be linked to compensation. Bring back the gladiators.

Im entertained more when guys are not stomping on other players...then I am by dirty play.Big hits are fine.Guys laying on the turf motionless while trainers attend to them is not entertaining.Yes, some of it has gotten out of hand with the flags...but come on.Its a wuss league for a guy getting suspended over what Suh did and has done?

He wasn't injured. I think spearing should be a suspendable offense - but it apparently isn't. People are so upset about a "stomp" (using that term very loosely) than they are actions that literally could lead to paralysis or death. Get your priorities right, man.

Maybe football is not for you since it isn't going to tolerate dirty players like Suh. You should check out some MMA, lots of blood and face smashing, kicking is totally legal and expected and guys can really kick each others butts.

...you might want to read for comprehension before steering me to the MMA; it will tolerate dirty players like Kenny Phillips, it will tolerate dirty players like Hines Ward, it will tolerate dirty players like Dunta Robinson, it will tolerate dirty players like Cortland Finnegan, it will tolerate dirty players like virtually every o-lineman at the bottom of a pile. Again, his previous actions warranted a suspension - that particular act was not egregious nor warranting of a suspension. I am merely pointing out that far worse acts occur on a weekly basis and it draws a fine - maybe the league should get tough on all dangerous plays instead of just those that occur against St Aaron and the choir boys. I really would like to see harsher penalties put down for the worst offenses....yet in this thread Suh is painted as the most villainous of all players. His stomp is the worst act that should lead to a lifetime ban....see I can use hyperbole as well. I agree with his suspension - now when will the NFL have the nuts to suspend all the others that are deserving?

 

[sho nuff]

...you might want to read for comprehension before steering me to the MMA; it will tolerate dirty players like Kenny Phillips, it will tolerate dirty players like Hines Ward, it will tolerate dirty players like Dunta Robinson, it will tolerate dirty players like Cortland Finnegan, it will tolerate dirty players like virtually every o-lineman at the bottom of a pile. Again, his previous actions warranted a suspension - that particular act was not egregious nor warranting of a suspension. I am merely pointing out that far worse acts occur on a weekly basis and it draws a fine - maybe the league should get tough on all dangerous plays instead of just those that occur against St Aaron and the choir boys. I really would like to see harsher penalties put down for the worst offenses....yet in this thread Suh is painted as the most villainous of all players. His stomp is the worst act that should lead to a lifetime ban....see I can use hyperbole as well. I agree with his suspension - now when will the NFL have the nuts to suspend all the others that are deserving?

Bolded the part where any credibility in this argument you may have had went out the door.Seems more like you have a grudge against what you are perceiving as preferential treatment to the Packers.

When will the NFL do it...when there are guys who are continually showing dangerous behavior and fine after fine is not enough.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

...you might want to read for comprehension before steering me to the MMA; it will tolerate dirty players like Kenny Phillips, it will tolerate dirty players like Hines Ward, it will tolerate dirty players like Dunta Robinson, it will tolerate dirty players like Cortland Finnegan, it will tolerate dirty players like virtually every o-lineman at the bottom of a pile. Again, his previous actions warranted a suspension - that particular act was not egregious nor warranting of a suspension. I am merely pointing out that far worse acts occur on a weekly basis and it draws a fine - maybe the league should get tough on all dangerous plays instead of just those that occur against St Aaron and the choir boys. I really would like to see harsher penalties put down for the worst offenses....yet in this thread Suh is painted as the most villainous of all players. His stomp is the worst act that should lead to a lifetime ban....see I can use hyperbole as well. I agree with his suspension - now when will the NFL have the nuts to suspend all the others that are deserving?

Bolded the part where any credibility in this argument you may have had went out the door.Seems more like you have a grudge against what you are perceiving as preferential treatment to the Packers.

When will the NFL do it...when there are guys who are continually showing dangerous behavior and fine after fine is not enough.

I only brought that into the equation as it seems that certain players enoy more protection that others. Hey I am a Rams fan - don't have a dog in the fight. I am a Mizzou fan so i have no love lost for Suh. It just seems that the NFL is selective in their protection of players and where they draw the disciplinary line. Really the bolded part was simply to address a poster named DesmondBishop...a Packer fan ya think?

 

[sho nuff]

...you might want to read for comprehension before steering me to the MMA; it will tolerate dirty players like Kenny Phillips, it will tolerate dirty players like Hines Ward, it will tolerate dirty players like Dunta Robinson, it will tolerate dirty players like Cortland Finnegan, it will tolerate dirty players like virtually every o-lineman at the bottom of a pile. Again, his previous actions warranted a suspension - that particular act was not egregious nor warranting of a suspension. I am merely pointing out that far worse acts occur on a weekly basis and it draws a fine - maybe the league should get tough on all dangerous plays instead of just those that occur against St Aaron and the choir boys. I really would like to see harsher penalties put down for the worst offenses....yet in this thread Suh is painted as the most villainous of all players. His stomp is the worst act that should lead to a lifetime ban....see I can use hyperbole as well. I agree with his suspension - now when will the NFL have the nuts to suspend all the others that are deserving?

Bolded the part where any credibility in this argument you may have had went out the door.Seems more like you have a grudge against what you are perceiving as preferential treatment to the Packers.

When will the NFL do it...when there are guys who are continually showing dangerous behavior and fine after fine is not enough.

I only brought that into the equation as it seems that certain players enoy more protection that others. Hey I am a Rams fan - don't have a dog in the fight. I am a Mizzou fan so i have no love lost for Suh. It just seems that the NFL is selective in their protection of players and where they draw the disciplinary line. Really the bolded part was simply to address a poster named DesmondBishop...a Packer fan ya think?

Thing is, this had nothing to do with Rodgers.It was a backup offensive lineman.

And Robison got nothing for kicking a starting OL for the Packers in the groin.

Im a Packer fan too...but I don't think that has much to do with what we think should happen to Suh.

At this point, the Lions are on the outside looking in to the playoffs and GB handled them and should be able to do it again.

 

[SWC]

...you might want to read for comprehension before steering me to the MMA; it will tolerate dirty players like Kenny Phillips, it will tolerate dirty players like Hines Ward, it will tolerate dirty players like Dunta Robinson, it will tolerate dirty players like Cortland Finnegan, it will tolerate dirty players like virtually every o-lineman at the bottom of a pile. Again, his previous actions warranted a suspension - that particular act was not egregious nor warranting of a suspension. I am merely pointing out that far worse acts occur on a weekly basis and it draws a fine - maybe the league should get tough on all dangerous plays instead of just those that occur against St Aaron and the choir boys. I really would like to see harsher penalties put down for the worst offenses....yet in this thread Suh is painted as the most villainous of all players. His stomp is the worst act that should lead to a lifetime ban....see I can use hyperbole as well. I agree with his suspension - now when will the NFL have the nuts to suspend all the others that are deserving?

Bolded the part where any credibility in this argument you may have had went out the door.Seems more like you have a grudge against what you are perceiving as preferential treatment to the Packers.

When will the NFL do it...when there are guys who are continually showing dangerous behavior and fine after fine is not enough.

I only brought that into the equation as it seems that certain players enoy more protection that others. Hey I am a Rams fan - don't have a dog in the fight. I am a Mizzou fan so i have no love lost for Suh. It just seems that the NFL is selective in their protection of players and where they draw the disciplinary line. Really the bolded part was simply to address a poster named DesmondBishop...a Packer fan ya think?

dude it seems like you are having a rough time in your life and lashing out at a lot of poeple here and i know lots of guys from my old job on the floor who would really get down around the holidays and if you are going through a rough spot in life then maybe we could help you out here because even though we argue about football everyone here has everyones back so i hope that you will tell us what you need maybe we can cook you some dinners or help get your house winterized if you are down on your luck so my apologies and i hope that it gets better take care and peace my brother take it ot the bank

 

[proninja]

I seem to remember Mr. KIA as being somewhat reasonable from the FFA. Guess my memory isn't what it used to be.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

...you might want to read for comprehension before steering me to the MMA; it will tolerate dirty players like Kenny Phillips, it will tolerate dirty players like Hines Ward, it will tolerate dirty players like Dunta Robinson, it will tolerate dirty players like Cortland Finnegan, it will tolerate dirty players like virtually every o-lineman at the bottom of a pile. Again, his previous actions warranted a suspension - that particular act was not egregious nor warranting of a suspension. I am merely pointing out that far worse acts occur on a weekly basis and it draws a fine - maybe the league should get tough on all dangerous plays instead of just those that occur against St Aaron and the choir boys. I really would like to see harsher penalties put down for the worst offenses....yet in this thread Suh is painted as the most villainous of all players. His stomp is the worst act that should lead to a lifetime ban....see I can use hyperbole as well. I agree with his suspension - now when will the NFL have the nuts to suspend all the others that are deserving?

Bolded the part where any credibility in this argument you may have had went out the door.Seems more like you have a grudge against what you are perceiving as preferential treatment to the Packers.

When will the NFL do it...when there are guys who are continually showing dangerous behavior and fine after fine is not enough.

I only brought that into the equation as it seems that certain players enoy more protection that others. Hey I am a Rams fan - don't have a dog in the fight. I am a Mizzou fan so i have no love lost for Suh. It just seems that the NFL is selective in their protection of players and where they draw the disciplinary line. Really the bolded part was simply to address a poster named DesmondBishop...a Packer fan ya think?

dude it seems like you are having a rough time in your life and lashing out at a lot of poeple here and i know lots of guys from my old job on the floor who would really get down around the holidays and if you are going through a rough spot in life then maybe we could help you out here because even though we argue about football everyone here has everyones back so i hope that you will tell us what you need maybe we can cook you some dinners or help get your house winterized if you are down on your luck so my apologies and i hope that it gets better take care and peace my brother take it ot the bank

You been drinking a little bit too much of grandpa's special cough medicine, rube? For heaven's sake your feeble attempts at condescension are pathetically lacking. Now go back to your igloo or log cabin or whatever it is that you Wisconsinites live in, put on a little House of Pain so you can jump around, get out you book of Nyjer Morgan quotes to live by, say your novenas to Saint Lombardi - then ask yourself this question - are the actions of Suh the worst you have seen, clearly worthy of a 2 game or more suspension...or are your views jaded by the fact that he is a high draft pick/potential impact player on what could be in the future a rival to your favorite team? I am just calling it as I see it as an outsider looking in. I'll type slowly so you can understand...I think his actions warranted a suspension...I think the league needs to do more than make one suspension on a high profile case.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

I seem to remember Mr. KIA as being somewhat reasonable from the FFA. Guess my memory isn't what it used to be.

I am extremely reasonable - the Wisconsin boys don't like criticism. That humors me.

 

[proninja]

I seem to remember Mr. KIA as being somewhat reasonable from the FFA. Guess my memory isn't what it used to be.

I am extremely reasonable - the Wisconsin boys don't like criticism. That humors me.

You are? Prove it.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

I seem to remember Mr. KIA as being somewhat reasonable from the FFA. Guess my memory isn't what it used to be.

I am extremely reasonable - the Wisconsin boys don't like criticism. That humors me.

You are? Prove it.

What is your fax number - I'll send over my reasonableness credentials.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

How many games we Finnegan and Andre Johnson suspended for last season for an all out fist fight?

Hilarious Lions fans. How many games did Michael Vick get for killing dogs???!!!!11!?!?!1ONEJUANWONONEONE Surely that's worse than a non-stomp ZOMG!!!!!>>!>!!

Perfectly reasonable response.

 

[SWC]

...you might want to read for comprehension before steering me to the MMA; it will tolerate dirty players like Kenny Phillips, it will tolerate dirty players like Hines Ward, it will tolerate dirty players like Dunta Robinson, it will tolerate dirty players like Cortland Finnegan, it will tolerate dirty players like virtually every o-lineman at the bottom of a pile. Again, his previous actions warranted a suspension - that particular act was not egregious nor warranting of a suspension. I am merely pointing out that far worse acts occur on a weekly basis and it draws a fine - maybe the league should get tough on all dangerous plays instead of just those that occur against St Aaron and the choir boys. I really would like to see harsher penalties put down for the worst offenses....yet in this thread Suh is painted as the most villainous of all players. His stomp is the worst act that should lead to a lifetime ban....see I can use hyperbole as well. I agree with his suspension - now when will the NFL have the nuts to suspend all the others that are deserving?

Bolded the part where any credibility in this argument you may have had went out the door.Seems more like you have a grudge against what you are perceiving as preferential treatment to the Packers.

When will the NFL do it...when there are guys who are continually showing dangerous behavior and fine after fine is not enough.

I only brought that into the equation as it seems that certain players enoy more protection that others. Hey I am a Rams fan - don't have a dog in the fight. I am a Mizzou fan so i have no love lost for Suh. It just seems that the NFL is selective in their protection of players and where they draw the disciplinary line. Really the bolded part was simply to address a poster named DesmondBishop...a Packer fan ya think?

dude it seems like you are having a rough time in your life and lashing out at a lot of poeple here and i know lots of guys from my old job on the floor who would really get down around the holidays and if you are going through a rough spot in life then maybe we could help you out here because even though we argue about football everyone here has everyones back so i hope that you will tell us what you need maybe we can cook you some dinners or help get your house winterized if you are down on your luck so my apologies and i hope that it gets better take care and peace my brother take it ot the bank

You been drinking a little bit too much of grandpa's special cough medicine, rube? For heaven's sake your feeble attempts at condescension are pathetically lacking. Now go back to your igloo or log cabin or whatever it is that you Wisconsinites live in, put on a little House of Pain so you can jump around, get out you book of Nyjer Morgan quotes to live by, say your novenas to Saint Lombardi - then ask yourself this question - are the actions of Suh the worst you have seen, clearly worthy of a 2 game or more suspension...or are your views jaded by the fact that he is a high draft pick/potential impact player on what could be in the future a rival to your favorite team? I am just calling it as I see it as an outsider looking in. I'll type slowly so you can understand...I think his actions warranted a suspension...I think the league needs to do more than make one suspension on a high profile case.

i dont even care about suh i care about you my brother you seem to be really full of angst and i guess i tried to help but you dont want to take it and instead lash out even more at me about igloos and log cabins and cough medicine and even though i do like to jump around that is besides the point i hope you cheer up and have a better CHristmas than you did at thanksgiving brother so peace out take it to the bank

 

[sho nuff]

You been drinking a little bit too much of grandpa's special cough medicine, rube? For heaven's sake your feeble attempts at condescension are pathetically lacking. Now go back to your igloo or log cabin or whatever it is that you Wisconsinites live in, put on a little House of Pain so you can jump around, get out you book of Nyjer Morgan quotes to live by, say your novenas to Saint Lombardi - then ask yourself this question - are the actions of Suh the worst you have seen, clearly worthy of a 2 game or more suspension...or are your views jaded by the fact that he is a high draft pick/potential impact player on what could be in the future a rival to your favorite team? I am just calling it as I see it as an outsider looking in. I'll type slowly so you can understand...I think his actions warranted a suspension...I think the league needs to do more than make one suspension on a high profile case.

Who claimed the actions were the worst they had ever seen?Herm had several great points on Mike and Mike this morning...-people on here talked about the old school guys this would be nothing...Herm stated that is right, because the old school guys would have taken Suh's knee out if he kept getting personal foul calls on him like this.-Herm also had the point that the coach cannot let the guy get to 8 personal fouls. In his mind it was a ridiculous amount for one player to have.

 

[sho nuff]

I seem to remember Mr. KIA as being somewhat reasonable from the FFA. Guess my memory isn't what it used to be.

I am extremely reasonable - the Wisconsin boys don't like criticism. That humors me.

I live in Tennessee...and criticism is fine. Claiming the Suh thing was about Rodgers and protecting the Packers was a ridiculous assertion.