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How many of you would pay extra for a 24/7 Fantasy Football Channel? (1 Viewer)

gianmarco

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So I'm reading the thread re: ESPN "expert" draft they showed on TV last night and got to thinking what it would be like to have that kind of stuff on all day long. Similar to the NFLN but completely geared toward fantasy. There is so much stuff that can be debated as evidenced by threads here that I think if someone were to put it together and staff it with real "experts" like FBG staff and some of the prominent posters here, it would be watched by many. Think of some of the garbage channels that can make a channel lineup and surely it would have as large a fan-base if not more than some of these.

So, would you watch it? Would you pay a small extra fee to have it? Would it cut down on your forum time if many of the threads were actually discussed on TV? If they had a call-in #, would you do it? Would you be a regular?

This should be good..........

 
I'd pay up to 2.99 for it and love it. My disdain for cable companies won't allow me to pay any more.

 
Also, let's say it wasn't a completely dedicated 24/7 channel. However, what about shows like PTI or 1st and 10 that was dedicated solely to fantasy football? Why haven't we really seen that yet?

 
actually, I think that while fantasy football has experienced immense growth, and warrants such stuff like websites, an hour long show on ESPN and yearly mags, I do not think the year-round appeal is there.

I'll put it this way - does a monthly Fantasy Football magazine sound viable?? At this point, not really. There's just not enough to talk about, and not enough people who would be interested. So at this point, I would think probably not. Ten years from now? Who knows?

 
gianmarco said:
Also, let's say it wasn't a completely dedicated 24/7 channel. However, what about shows like PTI or 1st and 10 that was dedicated solely to fantasy football? Why haven't we really seen that yet?
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I do think a *fantasy sports* channel, along with a few highlight-type shows, might start to become viable shortly, however.
 
I dunno, I think if it were 24 hours long it would sacrifice quality for quantity. On a somewhat related note, I do think that a monthly fantasy football magazine could be a successful idea. Even with the slow months of the off-season there would still be news to report, previews to write and plenty of time for all types of different projections.

 
I wouldn't. There's not enough coverage to justify that. I love fantasy football (obviously) and probably spend more time on the hobby than 99.99999% of the world and yet still couldn't fathom watching fantasy related TV for hours and hours on end. No collaborative element would drive me nuts. I can't even listen to Sirius' NFL channel for very long without zoning out.

 
jwb said:
gianmarco said:
Also, let's say it wasn't a completely dedicated 24/7 channel. However, what about shows like PTI or 1st and 10 that was dedicated solely to fantasy football? Why haven't we really seen that yet?
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I do think a *fantasy sports* channel, along with a few highlight-type shows, might start to become viable shortly, however.
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Yep, good call. I am kind of surprised something like this has not come out already. I know local cable has guys like us that buy time and do a show for FF, but I am wondering if this is done on a grass roots level (year round) for all Fantasy sports anywhere on a local cable station (public access). The tough part is, finding experts in each sport...it couldn't be just a two man thing.
 
Jason Wood said:
I wouldn't. There's not enough coverage to justify that. I love fantasy football (obviously) and probably spend more time on the hobby than 99.99999% of the world and yet still couldn't fathom watching fantasy related TV for hours and hours on end. No collaborative element would drive me nuts. I can't even listen to Sirius' NFL channel for very long without zoning out.
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I don't know...I think you could put together an 8 hour production, let it run on a 3 times a day on a loop M-F (highlights of the stuff on the weekends) during the season and you would have some good interest (probably not mass appeal though). Take the info from this site and all the articles that come out each week...You could do 15 minute segments on the Spotlights (include last season's highlights for said player), cover draft basics, VBD, injuries, camp battles, in-season battles, hot/cold players in-season, perfect drafts, auctions, etc. There is enough material on this very site (I would think) to keep it going.The real question is, how many people are as die-hard as those on this board...feasibly there is enough material, and frankly enough to keep it interesting. The question is, would there be enough mass interest to keep it alive financially? Heck, Trading Spaces is practically on 24 hours a day and it is the same thing each episode...lol.
 
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Sweet Love said:
Jason Wood said:
I wouldn't. There's not enough coverage to justify that. I love fantasy football (obviously) and probably spend more time on the hobby than 99.99999% of the world and yet still couldn't fathom watching fantasy related TV for hours and hours on end. No collaborative element would drive me nuts. I can't even listen to Sirius' NFL channel for very long without zoning out.
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I don't know...I think you could put together an 8 hour production, let it run on a 3 times a day loop M-F (highlights of the stuff on the weekends) during the season and you would have some good interest (probably not mass appeal though). Take the info from this site and all the articles that come out each week...You could do 15 minute segments on the Spotlights (include last season's highlights for said player), cover draft basics, VBD, injuries, camp battles, in-season battles, hot/cold players in-season, perfect drafts, auctions, etc. There is enough material on this very site (I would think) to keep it going.The real question is, how many people are as die-hard as those on this board...feasibly there is enough material, and frankly enough to keep it interesting. The question is, would there be enough mass interest to keep it alive financially? Heck, Trading Spaces is practically on 24 hours a day and it is the same thing each episode...lol.
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No thanks. I think if such a channel existed, it would have to be geared down for newbees. They're the ones who'd be searching around for guidance -- who should I start, and that sort of thing. More experienced FF addicts have FBG and other resources. Besides, as someone else pointed out, who would watch an FF channel in the off season?

 
As another poster said, if it covered all kinds of fantasy sports and not just football you might have enough interest.

Though imo the real money would be having a website that hosted games/information that tied in with the shows.

 
Leo Scanlon said:
No thanks. I think if such a channel existed, it would have to be geared down for newbees. They're the ones who'd be searching around for guidance -- who should I start, and that sort of thing. More experienced FF addicts have FBG and other resources. Besides, as someone else pointed out, who would watch an FF channel in the off season?
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Why would it have to be in the offseason? Start in July and end in January...I do not get the Sports Access packages, but isn't that how they work?
 
Leo Scanlon said:
No thanks. I think if such a channel existed, it would have to be geared down for newbees. They're the ones who'd be searching around for guidance -- who should I start, and that sort of thing. More experienced FF addicts have FBG and other resources.
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Exactly. I haven't read the other thread, but I am sure it is full of comments like "Those guys are "experts :rolleyes: ?", Can you believe that pick?" "Well, that's obvious. "... Every fantasy show I've seen discussed here has garnered those comments. You want a full-time channel of it? :)
 
How about a 24 hour FOOTBALL channel? that way we could get in depth on NFL, on FF, on college, but without having to be repetitive or make up subjects worth covering...

 
It would have to be a fantasy sports channel, not just football. Count me in though. I think this is the next thing you'll see, probably from ESPN.

If there's a market for channels like Game Show Network, SoapNET and Biography Channel, there has GOT to be a market for this.

 
Fox Sports fantasy football show aired, last season or a couple seasons ago, with a smallish big eared guy(andrew siciliano?) as the host with Warren Moon and a 4 person panel. That show semi-sucked. I felt more experienced and knowledgeable than their expert panel(thanks FBG). I remember wanting to watch every minute pre start time and found myself disappointed. The execution wasn't up to par with my FBG standards. If it was....

Does anybody recall watching?

As for the Audible and Cecil's Video cast. I can't get enough. Uploading, to my ipod, the Audible preseason podcast and listening at the gym while running and lifting. Then litsening again while i drive. Then playing it again while i have sex and sleep. :P

I don't think the world is ready for a 24/7 show, but i could live with a legit 1-2 hour show every day. Imagine Cecil and Bloom behind the PTI desk. Or EBF, Moderated, Lhucks, Yudkin as the Around the Horn Panel. :coffee:

NFL all access with a fantasy twist. Which NFLN probably already has in the making.

But OUR fantasy channel would need to cover all the major sports. Basketballl specifically isn't getting any real love. There is a market out there. I have not been able to find i legit fantasy basketball site.

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
How about a 24 hour FOOTBALL channel? that way we could get in depth on NFL, on FF, on college, but without having to be repetitive or make up subjects worth covering...
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;) I wouldn't mind turning on the TV and catching a Texas Friday night high school contest, or a CFL game or some Arena action. Maybe some obscure college conferences. Just something to mix it up would be fun.
 
I thought this board is the 24/7 FF channel.

I don't think the unilateral, canned broadcast approach to FF coverage would be as engaging or informative as what goes on on this board.

 
Leo Scanlon said:
No thanks. I think if such a channel existed, it would have to be geared down for newbees. They're the ones who'd be searching around for guidance -- who should I start, and that sort of thing. More experienced FF addicts have FBG and other resources. Besides, as someone else pointed out, who would watch an FF channel in the off season?
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:thumbup: Most fantasy football oriented programming on TV is pretty weak in terms of any meaningful detailed analysis. A couple times I have seen people who are actually fairly knowledgable about the NFL (former players, current announcers, etc.) participating in televised drafts, and some of their fantasy picks were absolute jokes to anyone who frequents these message boards.
 
KCC said:
Leo Scanlon said:
No thanks. I think if such a channel existed, it would have to be geared down for newbees. They're the ones who'd be searching around for guidance -- who should I start, and that sort of thing. More experienced FF addicts have FBG and other resources. Besides, as someone else pointed out, who would watch an FF channel in the off season?
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:goodposting: Most fantasy football oriented programming on TV is pretty weak in terms of any meaningful detailed analysis. A couple times I have seen people who are actually fairly knowledgable about the NFL (former players, current announcers, etc.) participating in televised drafts, and some of their fantasy picks were absolute jokes to anyone who frequents these message boards.
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Right, but I meant to staff whoever does this with actual knowledgeable guys like FBG staff, not just these quacks at ESPN. That was the whole point of this.
 
I can't see having enough content for a 24/7 network but I have always thought that it would be a great idea of r NFLN or ESPN2 to run a daily 1/2 hour to hour show dedicated to fantasy sports/football.

I think the ratings would be good enough to justify a daily program of that length.

 
There just is not enough material out there to have a FF channel 24/7. There would be a lot of fuff pieces in the off season and not meat and potatoes out there for the dedicated players. Not sure there would be enough advertisers to throw money into this channel if it was 24/7, lot of money to run this kind of programming.

I would love to see a real solid show come on TV, but I think there is too much of a time restraint. Any show that has been on only skims the surface on who to start and what the stats of players will look like for the week. For this reason I think that die hard players feel the TV shows are geared for the newbies or casual players. Not sure that this statement is true since there is not enough time to go in depth like us diehard players do during the week. Maybe a three hour show would do the job but these one hour shows will never cut it for the guys that play this game with a deep passion.

 
I doubt they would cover it enough for my liking. I would want stuff on 4th string wide receivers, backup linebackers, safeties, etc.

This site and google are good enough for me.

 
The Man With No Name said:
I doubt they would cover it enough for my liking. I would want stuff on 4th string wide receivers, backup linebackers, safeties, etc.This site and google are good enough for me.
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Again, assume they DID cover that stuff. Essentially, imagine FBG but on TV. I keep saying otherwise but I keep hearing how it will be too generic and be "ESPN"-like. Forget ESPN. Pretend it was something that was run and made by FBG with FBG-like content and comprised of staff/bloggers/posters from here. Would you still not be interested or watch it or is that something that you'd like to have and check out?
 
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WHy does it have to be on cable? Why not a stream online?
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This is the 'media' solution. However, working in the IT biz (formerly in the ISP/datacom world), I know the cost and technical issues related to streaming live/canned video content are significant. (i.e. even though Google bought utube - they were no where close to actually making $. It was - and always will be - about the eyeballs/viewers). You'd have to have HUGE advertising support to pay for the bandwidth/hosting/software/hardware and then throw in some production & talent costs. Not that it couldn't be done, but someone would have to be VERY organized (pre-launch) and prepared to spend / front the $ and time to get it off the ground. And plan to lose $ for a while.There are probably too many financial and some legal obstacles to overcome for a 'grassroots' type of operation (broadcast TV channel wise). Including licensing/approval from the NFL to re-air highlights, etc. (I'm sure they'd want $ for the rights). Otherwise the content would be restricted to 'experts' and opinions. Maybe easier for a FF show, but that's been tried (i.e. the mention of the Fox show w/ Moon) - and evidently failed b/c it's gone now. Even w/ the support of a major network.I'm not sure a subscription based membership could support the associated costs. That said, anything's possible I guess. And I agree with another poster about not attempting year long coverage. June through Jan should cover it. Mixing in all the other Fantasy sports would be chaos IMO. Better to be very good at one thing vs. average at many. The other challenge would be advertising (and paying for it) to gain the audience - which creates demand for advertising $.
 
jwb said:
actually, I think that while fantasy football has experienced immense growth, and warrants such stuff like websites, an hour long show on ESPN and yearly mags, I do not think the year-round appeal is there. I'll put it this way - does a monthly Fantasy Football magazine sound viable?? At this point, not really. There's just not enough to talk about, and not enough people who would be interested. So at this point, I would think probably not. Ten years from now? Who knows?
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A magazine vs. a channel is VERY different. A monthly mag would flop because the content would be outdated after about a week. A channel with live programming keeps the info current and relative each and every day.I like it! :lmao:
 
gianmarco said:
So I'm reading the thread re: ESPN "expert" draft they showed on TV last night and got to thinking what it would be like to have that kind of stuff on all day long. Similar to the NFLN but completely geared toward fantasy. There is so much stuff that can be debated as evidenced by threads here that I think if someone were to put it together and staff it with real "experts" like FBG staff and some of the prominent posters here, it would be watched by many. Think of some of the garbage channels that can make a channel lineup and surely it would have as large a fan-base if not more than some of these.So, would you watch it? Would you pay a small extra fee to have it? Would it cut down on your forum time if many of the threads were actually discussed on TV? If they had a call-in #, would you do it? Would you be a regular? This should be good..........
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The NFL Network should have a larger time showing shows devoted to fantasy. 24/7 just fantasy football would get a little stale. But having 2 hours a day dedicated to it on the NFL Network would be good.
 
The chance of a fantasy football channel being intersting to me is slim.

In order for the network to be succesful (i.e. have enough viewers to last), it would have to appeal to a more "normal" fantasy player, the guy who is in a couple of leagues with friends. Think of the Food Network, when it started there were more shows with Gourmet chefs, now the network is loaded with either Rachel Ray types (non-formally trained cooks) or Bobby flays (chefs who are dumbing down thier approaches or in some cooking under pressure situation). FBG magazine is more general than the information available on the site.

Also, how much of what is fantasy oriented is merely reporting a general news story. The network would need a strong news presence with good insiders, but the established networks are already in that business, so could an upstart do it better?

 
Liquid Tension said:
gianmarco said:
So I'm reading the thread re: ESPN "expert" draft they showed on TV last night and got to thinking what it would be like to have that kind of stuff on all day long. Similar to the NFLN but completely geared toward fantasy. There is so much stuff that can be debated as evidenced by threads here that I think if someone were to put it together and staff it with real "experts" like FBG staff and some of the prominent posters here, it would be watched by many. Think of some of the garbage channels that can make a channel lineup and surely it would have as large a fan-base if not more than some of these.So, would you watch it? Would you pay a small extra fee to have it? Would it cut down on your forum time if many of the threads were actually discussed on TV? If they had a call-in #, would you do it? Would you be a regular? This should be good..........
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The NFL Network should have a larger time showing shows devoted to fantasy. 24/7 just fantasy football would get a little stale. But having 2 hours a day dedicated to it on the NFL Network would be good.
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I could agree not agree with you more. I think the NFL Network is missing the boat on it as is ESPN. Both could have a live show oin Sunday morning that would be on couple hours before the game to give us any last minute info. Then they could have their pregame shows geared to the NFL games. We all know that Sundays in the fall are just people watching football and a ton of those fans looking any information they can get on the games. ESPN pregame show has become full of fluff pieces that dont even matter to the game, the have lost what made them so good by getting to cute.
 
hauser42 said:
Liquid Tension said:
gianmarco said:
So I'm reading the thread re: ESPN "expert" draft they showed on TV last night and got to thinking what it would be like to have that kind of stuff on all day long. Similar to the NFLN but completely geared toward fantasy. There is so much stuff that can be debated as evidenced by threads here that I think if someone were to put it together and staff it with real "experts" like FBG staff and some of the prominent posters here, it would be watched by many. Think of some of the garbage channels that can make a channel lineup and surely it would have as large a fan-base if not more than some of these.So, would you watch it? Would you pay a small extra fee to have it? Would it cut down on your forum time if many of the threads were actually discussed on TV? If they had a call-in #, would you do it? Would you be a regular? This should be good..........
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The NFL Network should have a larger time showing shows devoted to fantasy. 24/7 just fantasy football would get a little stale. But having 2 hours a day dedicated to it on the NFL Network would be good.
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I could agree not agree with you more. I think the NFL Network is missing the boat on it as is ESPN. Both could have a live show oin Sunday morning that would be on couple hours before the game to give us any last minute info. Then they could have their pregame shows geared to the NFL games. We all know that Sundays in the fall are just people watching football and a ton of those fans looking any information they can get on the games. ESPN pregame show has become full of fluff pieces that dont even matter to the game, the have lost what made them so good by getting to cute.
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:rolleyes:
 
A Fantasy Sports Channel lives! Check it out...the Audible is a part of the channel...

www.blogtalkradio.com/channels/fantasysports

 
Here are some shows you can have..

Fantasy Football 101- for newbies

IDP Leagues 101- Hosted by Jene

Advanced IDP-Hosted by Jene

auction type or salary cap leagues. HOW TO MANAGE

Talk show like PTI or Around the horn

How to manage teams with ol's

Transactions show- Free agent signings and who might go where

Call in show

Guest draft- have different celebrities and do a mock draft- Then the host makes fun of the picks.

 
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There might be a market for it, but I wouldn't be part of that market.

There just isn't much you could put together in content that would make want to watch it. The fantasy content I consider useful works best in a spreadsheet or a series of linked web pages, not as a TV broadcast.

The biggest problem with televised fantasy content right now is that most of it is worthless. The vast majority of it is uninformed at best. The parts that aren't are so spoon fed that the market for it would be someone who is completely clueless about a fantasy sport.

Even if you correct that, I don't think TV is a medium for delivering it that is better than text. The best you could do would be to turn it into a fantasy sports news channel that has constant updates on any new stories breaking. But again, if you're televising it, why not just put it on the web so I can click right to the player of interest and not have to wait for the broadcast to cycle to the guy I care about?

 
Nothing is stopping you guys from creating an online web video broadcast for fantasy football on your own you know.

 
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