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How to handle a lowball job offer? UPDATE: #122 (1 Viewer)

Have they hired the new manager yet? can someone come in from the outside and be insert w/out help?
This interests me, too. Every workplace always says "Everyone is expendable. Everyone is expendable. Etc." While that does seem to be mostly true in my experience, I wonder how often businesses hurt themselves badly by miscalculating the market worth of key employees, then having to scramble when said employees readily leave for greener pastures.

Been meaning to start a thread on that forever, just never got around to it: Have you ever worked for a place where, yes, there actually WAS an irreplaceable employee, and yes, the business suffered -- or even went under -- when that employee left?
My counterpart and I (we split the portfolio) left within 30 day's of each other. With the crack sales staff (we each were responsible for 10 sales people) that was left I have heard that they are at about 30% of goal this year. We hit 110% last year by October. I guess the last laugh is on HR for needing to have "diversity" in the leadership team (my counterpart was passed over for a way less qualified female and i was just tired of the BS and having said female around thinking that we reported to her). Good times.

ETA - We were replaced by two individuals to help further diversify the team - The gal that replaced me refuses to work anything but 9-5 and the Asian gentlemen that replaced my counterpart prides himself in only having two suits. He claims he will never buy another one until the company helps compensate him for the cost. But the team is more diversified.

 
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Tom Skerritt said:
My coworkers are all supportive of my decision. My interim boss was shocked and caught off-guard. But I think he understands too. My director gave me the requisite "you've done a great job, good luck" blah blah blah.

But I'm sure they are scrambling because I didn't see them the rest of the day. I'm guessing that they are strategizing what to do, and how they are going to move forward.

My interim boss said to me when I told him... "We're screwed!"

I'm loving this whole thing.
Awesome, stick it to them. You give them two weeks? I'd do as little as possible.

 
sbonomo said:
Have they hired the new manager yet? can someone come in from the outside and be insert w/out help?
This interests me, too. Every workplace always says "Everyone is expendable. Everyone is expendable. Etc." While that does seem to be mostly true in my experience, I wonder how often businesses hurt themselves badly by miscalculating the market worth of key employees, then having to scramble when said employees readily leave for greener pastures.

Been meaning to start a thread on that forever, just never got around to it: Have you ever worked for a place where, yes, there actually WAS an irreplaceable employee, and yes, the business suffered -- or even went under -- when that employee left?
My counterpart and I (we split the portfolio) left within 30 day's of each other. With the crack sales (we each were responsible for 10 sales people) staff that was left I have heard that they are at about 30% of goal this year. We hit 110% last year by October. I guess the last laugh is on HR for needing to have "diversity" in the leadership team (my counterpart was passed over for a way less qualified female and i was just tired of the BS and having said female around thinking that we reported to her). Good times.ETA - We were replaced two individuals to help further diversify the team - The gal that replaced me refuses to work anything but 9-5 and the Asian gentlemen that replaced my counterpart prides himself in only having two suits. He claims he will never buy another one until the company helps compensate him for the cost. But the team is more diversified.
Exactly. Everybody is replaceable...but at what cost? That cost can be huge! Great example.
 
i love any story about stickin it to the man like a brohan take that to the bank and keep those updates coming brochacho

 
Have they hired the new manager yet? can someone come in from the outside and be insert w/out help?
This interests me, too. Every workplace always says "Everyone is expendable. Everyone is expendable. Etc." While that does seem to be mostly true in my experience, I wonder how often businesses hurt themselves badly by miscalculating the market worth of key employees, then having to scramble when said employees readily leave for greener pastures.

Been meaning to start a thread on that forever, just never got around to it: Have you ever worked for a place where, yes, there actually WAS an irreplaceable employee, and yes, the business suffered -- or even went under -- when that employee left?
I've caused that sort of disruption by leaving a job. Granted, it applies locally (not company wide), but my leaving directly caused my former manager to be fired and the loss of about a $6M contract. I left because I had my annual review and was told by the reviewer that I was set to be promoted, then my manager changed the review to just shy of promotion level and gave me a 1% raise while heaping praise on me. I got an interview the next day at a competitor, was hired with a significant raise, and turned in my resignation, all within a week. The vengeful part of me really loved watching what I'd built for them crumble to pieces because they wouldn't pay me market value.

 
Got the full-court press from my manager and my director today. They wanted me to tell them all of the things I do. At first I passive-aggressively said "How about everything?!" He didn't like that answer. But I got my point across. And I like my manager. He's just doing his job, and he's in a tough spot. He's been good to me.

Was a tough 3 hours to sit through that. Had a huge headache when I left that meeting. But it's over. I have to imagine that is going to be the hardest part.

 
I love it when you hand in your notice and the company just tells you to hit the road. No sitting around for two weeks trying to train a replacement, or tying loose ends. Most of the time they pay you for the two weeks, so it's a paid vacation.

 
I love it when you hand in your notice and the company just tells you to hit the road. No sitting around for two weeks trying to train a replacement, or tying loose ends. Most of the time they pay you for the two weeks, so it's a paid vacation.
This means you sucked at your job brah.

 
I love it when you hand in your notice and the company just tells you to hit the road. No sitting around for two weeks trying to train a replacement, or tying loose ends. Most of the time they pay you for the two weeks, so it's a paid vacation.
This means you sucked at your job brah.
Not necessarily true. If you have access to client data, the prudent thing to do is walk you out the door. Realistically if you are worth anything you would have all of that stored somewhere else anyway. My standard policy is sales and or vp and above are walked out of the building upon quitting. Jr staff are required to work until their termination date.

 
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