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How Ward was affected by Plax leaving (1 Viewer)

GregR_2

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Discussion of the Steelers WR situation made me remember how there was a lot of speculation before last year on how Ward would do without Plax. Though many people assumed Ward received the double teams and other team's #1 corner when Plax was on the Steelers, in reality it was Plax that got them and Ward would get moved around to make mistmaches, sometimes even getting linebackers covering him. So there was some room for speculation on how he would fare against the extra attention.

Here are Ward's stats for the last couple of years. He missed one game last year, but played 16 in all the others. To remove any bias by the one game he didn't play, I've normalized last season to 16 games at the pace he had for the 15 he played.

Year ... GS ..... Rec..... Yards .. Avg .... Lg ..... TD ..... 20+ .... 40+ .... FD...... Rec/20+. Rec/40+

2001.... 16...... 94...... 1003.... 10.7.... 34...... 4....... 13...... 0....... 52...... 7.23.... NA

2002.... 16...... 112..... 1329.... 11.9.... 72...... 12...... 19...... 2....... 66...... 5.89.... 56.0

2003.... 16...... 95...... 1163.... 12.2.... 50...... 10...... 18...... 2....... 60...... 5.28.... 47.5

2004.... 16...... 80...... 1004.... 12.6.... 58...... 4....... 15...... 2....... 52...... 5.33.... 40.0

2005.... 16(15). 73.6.. 1040.... 14.1.... 85...... 11.7... 10.7... 3.2..... 56.5.... 6.9..... 23.0

The most noticeable thing at first glance is that his receptions fell over his previous 4 year average... by 22% to be exact. However the fall from just the previous year wasn't nearly as much. Two thoughts there... first, the Steelers went back to a run-first game in 2004 after having gotten a little pass-happy with Maddox. Second, we're looking at this to see how Plaxico being gone affected Ward, and Plaxico was gone for 1/3 of the season in 2004 at the same time that Ward saw his biggest drop in receptions. So the evidence would seem to support Ward seeing a drop in catches with Plax out, though how much is due to that and how much is due to the change in offensive philosophy is unclear.

The next thing that jumped out at me was that his yards per reception increased. But his number of 20+ yard receptions decreased, and by a larger percentage than did his number of receptions. I calculated the last 2 columns to see how many receptions on average he caught before he broke one for 20+ or 40+ yards. Despite his yards per reception being higher than in the past, it took him more catches (6.9) to get a big catch than it did in most of his previous years. So in addition to catching fewer balls, he wasn't getting as many long runs out of them, but he was still managing more yards per catch despite that.

The picture that the numbers seem to paint for me is that Ward is seeing a loss of production in the short dump offs which he used to get while Plax got the double teams, and that is cutting into his receptions. But he's possibly running some deeper patterns that might have gone to Plax before, and so last year at least he was able to make up the yardage with probably more yards on an "average" length catch.

So no earth-shattering conclusions to draw. I'd say Ward handled the increased defensive efforts he drew pretty well, though it did seem to impact his stats. That said, he was still effective both in an NFL and a Fantasy sense (especially with those 12 TDs).

 
Good analysis. It seems to me that 2004 was somewhat of an outlier year in terms of overall fantasy production for Ward. This probably had a lot to do with the incredible number of carries the Steelers had that season. I have seen a lot of posts that have been speculating on the increase in value of Fast Willie Parker due to Jerome Bettis' retirement. Namely that with Bettis and his 9-13 TDs no longer there Parker should get a nice increase in his TDs.

This reminds me of a few years ago when everyone was speculating as to where Leroy Hoard's short yardage TDs would go and talking up the relative value of Robert SMith and Jim Kliensasser. The reality was that the short yardage TDs went to Daunte Culpepper. I think we have a similar scenario here. I think the biggest beneficiaries of Bettis retiring are going to be Ward (good bet for 12 TDs), Miller (continues and perhaps increases his goal line prescence), and Rothlisberger (I wouldn't be suprised if he scored 5-6 rushing TDs).

I guess what I am getting at is that Hines Ward's yardage has been pretty consistent (he will probably get between 1000-1200 yards) but that the important factor in determining his fantasy value is how many TDs he scores. With Bettis retiring I see no reason to expect less than 10 TDs with a posibility for 14.

 
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There needs to be more of these threads in the pool this time of year.

Great job GregR, perhaps if you have the time you could do a few more players.

 
There is one KEY point missing in this discussion of Hines Ward. How many games did Rothlisberger miss. When Batch and especially Maddox were playing, receptions by the WRs were minimal. I think if they had their QB playing all season we would have seen 1200 yards and 13-14 TDs by Ward.

 
One other thing.

The Steelers and Ward had TWICE as many long passing receptions this year than the NY Giants and Burress [40 or more yards].

The Steelers were able to stretch the field better than 27 other teams, only the Carolina Panthers, Arizona Cardinals, Miami Dolphins and Washington Redskins ended up with more plays of this caliber.

They did not miss Plaxico at all!

 
There is one KEY point missing in this discussion of Hines Ward. How many games did Rothlisberger miss. When Batch and especially Maddox were playing, receptions by the WRs were minimal. I think if they had their QB playing all season we would have seen 1200 yards and 13-14 TDs by Ward.
Wrong.Hines missed one of the games that Ben missed - the loss to Jacksonville.

In weeks 9-11, without Ben, Ward had 15 catches, 217 yards, and 1 TD.

That's actually an INCREASE in his per game averages over his season as a whole.

Roethlisberger's improved play and the addition of Heath Miller helped to offset the loss of Plaxico, but they definitely missed him to some degree.

 
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There needs to be more of these threads in the pool this time of year.

Great job GregR, perhaps if you have the time you could do a few more players.
Very good point. It feels like we should start the player of the day threads now to get people performing more in depth analysis of individual players.
 
I'm glad the post was of use to anyone who found it so. I'll see if I can't take a look at some other players when I have time. In particular I'd like to look at questions that we had pre-season about how certain factors would affect a given player, so when that situation crops up in the future we have a feel for what may happen. If anyone can think of any other things like this that the results can be tested, please post them or shoot me a PM.

There was a thing about my post that I was unhappy with. I mentioned possible reasons for Ward's 2004 drop in production: going back to the run, and Plax missing 5 games. The latter can actually be tested by seeing if Ward's numbers dropped off the games Plax was gone.

Full season average: 5 rec/g and 62.75 yards/g.

In 11 games with Plax: 5.5 rec/g and 63.5 yards/g

In 5 games without Plax: 4 rec/g and 61.0 yards/g.

The defenses faced are on par enough I think it can be disregarded as a bigger factor than Plax being gone. It looks like a similar pattern is there as in 2005. In the 5 games without Plax, his receptions took a noticeable hit while his yards didn't -- though they didn't actually go up as in 2005. This maybe isn't completely conclusive, but it would seem to support the earlier conclusions more than detract from them.

 
I would add the following interesting Team data to the analysis ...

Team ................................ Year ..... 20+ ..... 40+ ..... TD

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New York Giants ................ 2005 ..... 49 ...... 8 ..... 24

New York Giants ................ 2004 ..... 35 ...... 10 ..... 20

New York Giants ................ 2003 ..... 35 ...... 8 ..... 16

New York Giants ................ 2002 ..... 61 ...... 4 ..... 19

New York Giants ................ 2001 ..... 52 ...... 7 ..... 19

Pittsburgh Steelers ............ 2005 ..... 44 ...... 14 ..... 21

Pittsburgh Steelers ............ 2004 ..... 47 ...... 7 ..... 12

Pittsburgh Steelers ............ 2003 ..... 46 ...... 5 ..... 19

Pittsburgh Steelers ............ 2002 ..... 51 ...... 8 ..... 26

Pittsburgh Steelers ............ 2001 ..... 49 ...... 8 ..... 16

Reviewing this team data supports the fact that the Steelers did not miss a beat with respect to losing Plaxico Burress. Their number of 20+ plays basically stayed the same for 5 years running [maybe a small 5% drop in 2005], and their number of 40+ plays in 2005 doubled from the average of the previous 4 years.

The Giants however had a 40% increase in the number of 20+ plays with Plax; 40+ plays stayed nominally the same as the previous 4 year average.

 

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