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How's the Packer decision to go with Rodgers looking now? (1 Viewer)

bostonfred said:
The thing that gets me in all of this is the Packers fans who have turned on Favre. He's still one of my favorite players ever to play the game, and I went out of my way to get tickets to the Pats/Vikes game earlier this year to get one last chance to see him. I used to buy into the notion that the Green Bay contingent was special - that there was some kind of loyal fanbase who bought shares in the team and sold out the stadium in the freezing cold despite their tiny market and was part of the lore of the NFL. Now I look at them as just one more group of jaded fans who will turn on the greatest player in franchise history and talk about him like just another former player in the era of free agency. This is easily the uncoolest response by a fanbase that I can remember to any event in sports in my lifetime.
Yet strangely Favre is the only player I know of that Pack fans feel this way about.Hmmmm.... is it uncool Packer fans?... or maybe it's Favre's actions toward the franchise and his fans.
No...bostonfred has it correct. I at one time also thought Packer fans were special (been a fan since the days of Steve Odom). But this entire Favre saga has shown them to be no better than any other fanbase and quite possibly worse than most NFL fans. Maybe the arrogance/smugness came from the tradition of winning (thank you Brett). Because I certainly do not remember the fans being holier than thou when the Packers sucked for a quarter century.
Yeah, the thing is...you don't know him like we know him. Every year he says or does 2 or 3 things (at least) that shows what a selfish jerk he is. For the average fan of another team, it doesn't move the needle. You barely notice it, you focus on your own teams and players. For us it's front and center. You see him on the field. We lived with it every day for the better part of 2 decades. We're the one's who had to made excuses when he laid down for Strahan, when he isolates himself from teammates, when he treated Aaron Rodgers like crap, when he stuck his nose in Javon Walker's business, when he throws teammates, GMs, and coaches under the bus on TV, when he held the team hostage year after year after year after year, when he throws a fit when our GM doesn't give him what he wants (Randy Moss), when he skips offseason and team buiding activities, when he gets addicted to drugs, when he cheats on his wife, when he chokes in the playoffs, when he can't tough out the bad weather when we really need him to fight through it, when he manipulates another team so he can play for our most hated rival and stick it to Ted.

The list goes on and on. After a while it accumulates on you. You get tired of making excuses for the guy. You realize after a while that it's not all just media creation. This guy is not who you think he is. Don't judge if you haven't walked a mile in our shoes.

 
bostonfred said:
The thing that gets me in all of this is the Packers fans who have turned on Favre. He's still one of my favorite players ever to play the game, and I went out of my way to get tickets to the Pats/Vikes game earlier this year to get one last chance to see him. I used to buy into the notion that the Green Bay contingent was special - that there was some kind of loyal fanbase who bought shares in the team and sold out the stadium in the freezing cold despite their tiny market and was part of the lore of the NFL. Now I look at them as just one more group of jaded fans who will turn on the greatest player in franchise history and talk about him like just another former player in the era of free agency. This is easily the uncoolest response by a fanbase that I can remember to any event in sports in my lifetime.
Yet strangely Favre is the only player I know of that Pack fans feel this way about.Hmmmm.... is it uncool Packer fans?... or maybe it's Favre's actions toward the franchise and his fans.
No...bostonfred has it correct. I at one time also thought Packer fans were special (been a fan since the days of Steve Odom). But this entire Favre saga has shown them to be no better than any other fanbase and quite possibly worse than most NFL fans. Maybe the arrogance/smugness came from the tradition of winning (thank you Brett). Because I certainly do not remember the fans being holier than thou when the Packers sucked for a quarter century.
I think bostonfred is dead wrong to condemn GB fans for their changing opinion of Favre. There have been some extremely well written and illuminating posts in this thread recently from some guys you can tell are very long time Packer fans, and they explain quite well the cumulative detrimental actions Favre was responsible for, and thus why a good chunk of the true GB fan base feels as they now do toward him.

National sentiment seems to have swung greatly against Favre over the past year as well - so it seems particularly silly to call out GB fans for how they feel about Favre when they see and know even more about the situation than national fans.

I personally think GB fans are among the best in the league for their passion and loyalty to their team.

 
bostonfred said:
The thing that gets me in all of this is the Packers fans who have turned on Favre. He's still one of my favorite players ever to play the game, and I went out of my way to get tickets to the Pats/Vikes game earlier this year to get one last chance to see him. I used to buy into the notion that the Green Bay contingent was special - that there was some kind of loyal fanbase who bought shares in the team and sold out the stadium in the freezing cold despite their tiny market and was part of the lore of the NFL. Now I look at them as just one more group of jaded fans who will turn on the greatest player in franchise history and talk about him like just another former player in the era of free agency. This is easily the uncoolest response by a fanbase that I can remember to any event in sports in my lifetime.
Yet strangely Favre is the only player I know of that Pack fans feel this way about.Hmmmm.... is it uncool Packer fans?... or maybe it's Favre's actions toward the franchise and his fans.
No...bostonfred has it correct. I at one time also thought Packer fans were special (been a fan since the days of Steve Odom). But this entire Favre saga has shown them to be no better than any other fanbase and quite possibly worse than most NFL fans. Maybe the arrogance/smugness came from the tradition of winning (thank you Brett). Because I certainly do not remember the fans being holier than thou when the Packers sucked for a quarter century.
I think bostonfred is dead wrong to condemn GB fans for their changing opinion of Favre. There have been some extremely well written and illuminating posts in this thread recently from some guys you can tell are very long time Packer fans, and they explain quite well the cumulative detrimental actions Favre was responsible for, and thus why a good chunk of the true GB fan base feels as they now do toward him.

National sentiment seems to have swung greatly against Favre over the past year as well - so it seems particularly silly to call out GB fans for how they feel about Favre when they see and know even more about the situation than national fans.

I personally think GB fans are among the best in the league for their passion and loyalty to their team.
We have a lot of fans with differing opinions. Some were Vikings fans trying to make the rest look bad during the huge controversy.

Favre never let Rodgers see the field so Rodgers had growing pains and was never game ready to take over.

What turned me against him was when he told the Jets he was retiring and the next day faxed his medical reports to the Vikings.

When it comes to grudges Favre is the Sarah Palin of the NFL.

 
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No...bostonfred has it correct. I at one time also thought Packer fans were special (been a fan since the days of Steve Odom). But this entire Favre saga has shown them to be no better than any other fanbase and quite possibly worse than most NFL fans. Maybe the arrogance/smugness came from the tradition of winning (thank you Brett). Because I certainly do not remember the fans being holier than thou when the Packers sucked for a quarter century.
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We have a lot of fans with differing opinions. Some were Vikings fans trying to make the rest look bad during the huge controversy.

Favre never let Rodgers see the field so Rodgers had growing pains and was never game ready to take over.

What turned me against him was when he told the Jets he was retiring and the next day faxed his medical reports to the Vikings.

When it comes to grudges Favre is the Sarah Palin of the NFL.
lol
 
I think Favre summed it up after the Vikings laid down for the Bears outside a few weeks ago. He chose to wish the Bears good luck in their upcoming game against Green Bay.

I could put up with the drugs, the philandering, th eprima donna attitude, the playing outside the system, the interceptions, nearly all of it. What I could not take was his insistence on wanting to be the general manager, to not practice with his team mates, his leaving the Packers in uncertainty about his plans and hence theirs, and then his clear collusion with the Vikings tamperings, even if it took him a round about route to get there. After all his crap, pettiness, and spite he hopes it will all be put away on retirement, and maybe it could have been, but when he had a chance to put the whole thing in perspective, and when his time was over he still wished ill to the team that had harbored and nutured him and his family. Suck it you giant piece of trash.

BTW Rodgers had must win games here and did just that. He had a must win game where he had to come from behind and he did just that. Give me Starr, Rodgers, Dickey, & Majic. Favre can rot. When he comes calling for a one day contract to retire as a Packer and he wants a consulting contract for millions I hope they suggest to him that he look to his firends in Minnnesota or to Chicago who he wishes so well. I hope they tell him the millions that he left on the table are gone since no one needs consultation on how to text pics of tired dented weinnies to sluts.

 
I think Favre summed it up after the Vikings laid down for the Bears outside a few weeks ago. He chose to wish the Bears good luck in their upcoming game against Green Bay.I could put up with the drugs, the philandering, th eprima donna attitude, the playing outside the system, the interceptions, nearly all of it. What I could not take was his insistence on wanting to be the general manager, to not practice with his team mates, his leaving the Packers in uncertainty about his plans and hence theirs, and then his clear collusion with the Vikings tamperings, even if it took him a round about route to get there. After all his crap, pettiness, and spite he hopes it will all be put away on retirement, and maybe it could have been, but when he had a chance to put the whole thing in perspective, and when his time was over he still wished ill to the team that had harbored and nutured him and his family. Suck it you giant piece of trash. BTW Rodgers had must win games here and did just that. He had a must win game where he had to come from behind and he did just that. Give me Starr, Rodgers, Dickey, & Majic. Favre can rot. When he comes calling for a one day contract to retire as a Packer and he wants a consulting contract for millions I hope they suggest to him that he look to his firends in Minnnesota or to Chicago who he wishes so well. I hope they tell him the millions that he left on the table are gone since no one needs consultation on how to text pics of tired dented weinnies to sluts.
Bitter much? Yet I agree with part 1. Part 2 ? Rodgers has to win playoff games to move up in the rankings of Packer qb's
 
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The thing that gets me in all of this is the Packers fans who have turned on Favre. He's still one of my favorite players ever to play the game, and I went out of my way to get tickets to the Pats/Vikes game earlier this year to get one last chance to see him. I used to buy into the notion that the Green Bay contingent was special - that there was some kind of loyal fanbase who bought shares in the team and sold out the stadium in the freezing cold despite their tiny market and was part of the lore of the NFL. Now I look at them as just one more group of jaded fans who will turn on the greatest player in franchise history and talk about him like just another former player in the era of free agency. This is easily the uncoolest response by a fanbase that I can remember to any event in sports in my lifetime.
Yet strangely Favre is the only player I know of that Pack fans feel this way about.Hmmmm.... is it uncool Packer fans?... or maybe it's Favre's actions toward the franchise and his fans.
No...bostonfred has it correct. I at one time also thought Packer fans were special (been a fan since the days of Steve Odom). But this entire Favre saga has shown them to be no better than any other fanbase and quite possibly worse than most NFL fans. Maybe the arrogance/smugness came from the tradition of winning (thank you Brett). Because I certainly do not remember the fans being holier than thou when the Packers sucked for a quarter century.
No, bostonfred is incorrect. Packer fans revere their Packer legends. They are hailed as heros in this state. Plenty of Packers have gone on to other teams, but have been respected as they exit and welcomed back with open arms when they return. Look no further than our feelings toward Aaron Kampan, a guy that got a fairly raw deal from the font office, but never went out of his way to talk about 'revenge' on the Packers. In fact, Kampan took out a full page newspaper ad thanking the fans for their support.The difference is Favre was less than straightforward in his dealings with Green Bay, and wanted us to believe 'his' version of events. His aim was divide the fan base and paint Ted Thompson as the bad guy. He wanted to enjoy the same control of the team he had when Mike Sherman was in town, and Thompson believed 'control' belonged to the GM.

Regardless of which 'side' you took during the Green Bay departure, most reasonable people now feel they were duped by Favre. His off field demeanor was really buried in Green Bay, and the press has readily admitted they kept stories buried out of respect for what Favre had done in Green Bay. Once he hit New York, all bets were off, and it really opened people's eyes to Favre off the field.

I can separate off field vs. on field to an extent. I will always, always respect what the guy did on the field. He was a big part of bringing Green Bay back from the abyss. But I can also objectively look at the situation and understand that he wasn't the guy we all thought he was off the field. And that's hard for many of us to justify.

Regardless, when he's ready to come back to Green Bay to be inducted into the Ring of Honor, I'll stand up, cheer, and fondly remember all that he meant to the franchise. And I'm not alone on this.

 
The thing that gets me in all of this is the Packers fans who have turned on Favre. He's still one of my favorite players ever to play the game, and I went out of my way to get tickets to the Pats/Vikes game earlier this year to get one last chance to see him. I used to buy into the notion that the Green Bay contingent was special - that there was some kind of loyal fanbase who bought shares in the team and sold out the stadium in the freezing cold despite their tiny market and was part of the lore of the NFL. Now I look at them as just one more group of jaded fans who will turn on the greatest player in franchise history and talk about him like just another former player in the era of free agency. This is easily the uncoolest response by a fanbase that I can remember to any event in sports in my lifetime.
Yet strangely Favre is the only player I know of that Pack fans feel this way about.Hmmmm.... is it uncool Packer fans?... or maybe it's Favre's actions toward the franchise and his fans.
No...bostonfred has it correct. I at one time also thought Packer fans were special (been a fan since the days of Steve Odom). But this entire Favre saga has shown them to be no better than any other fanbase and quite possibly worse than most NFL fans. Maybe the arrogance/smugness came from the tradition of winning (thank you Brett). Because I certainly do not remember the fans being holier than thou when the Packers sucked for a quarter century.
Sorry, I didn't realize we were supposed to live up to your standards. We aren't special at all, we are just foorball fans in a small market.

 
The thing that gets me in all of this is the Packers fans who have turned on Favre. He's still one of my favorite players ever to play the game, and I went out of my way to get tickets to the Pats/Vikes game earlier this year to get one last chance to see him. I used to buy into the notion that the Green Bay contingent was special - that there was some kind of loyal fanbase who bought shares in the team and sold out the stadium in the freezing cold despite their tiny market and was part of the lore of the NFL. Now I look at them as just one more group of jaded fans who will turn on the greatest player in franchise history and talk about him like just another former player in the era of free agency. This is easily the uncoolest response by a fanbase that I can remember to any event in sports in my lifetime.
No, bostonfred is incorrect. Packer fans revere their Packer legends. They are hailed as heros in this state. Plenty of Packers have gone on to other teams, but have been respected as they exit and welcomed back with open arms when they return. Look no further than our feelings toward Aaron Kampan, a guy that got a fairly raw deal from the font office, but never went out of his way to talk about 'revenge' on the Packers. In fact, Kampan took out a full page newspaper ad thanking the fans for their support.The difference is Favre was less than straightforward in his dealings with Green Bay, and wanted us to believe 'his' version of events. His aim was divide the fan base and paint Ted Thompson as the bad guy. He wanted to enjoy the same control of the team he had when Mike Sherman was in town, and Thompson believed 'control' belonged to the GM.Regardless of which 'side' you took during the Green Bay departure, most reasonable people now feel they were duped by Favre. His off field demeanor was really buried in Green Bay, and the press has readily admitted they kept stories buried out of respect for what Favre had done in Green Bay. Once he hit New York, all bets were off, and it really opened people's eyes to Favre off the field. I can separate off field vs. on field to an extent. I will always, always respect what the guy did on the field. He was a big part of bringing Green Bay back from the abyss. But I can also objectively look at the situation and understand that he wasn't the guy we all thought he was off the field. And that's hard for many of us to justify. Regardless, when he's ready to come back to Green Bay to be inducted into the Ring of Honor, I'll stand up, cheer, and fondly remember all that he meant to the franchise. And I'm not alone on this.
Absurd. Packers fans turned their back on Favre long before these "buried stories" started coming to light. This thread has all the evidence you could ask for of this fact.
 
The thing that gets me in all of this is the Packers fans who have turned on Favre. He's still one of my favorite players ever to play the game, and I went out of my way to get tickets to the Pats/Vikes game earlier this year to get one last chance to see him. I used to buy into the notion that the Green Bay contingent was special - that there was some kind of loyal fanbase who bought shares in the team and sold out the stadium in the freezing cold despite their tiny market and was part of the lore of the NFL. Now I look at them as just one more group of jaded fans who will turn on the greatest player in franchise history and talk about him like just another former player in the era of free agency. This is easily the uncoolest response by a fanbase that I can remember to any event in sports in my lifetime.
No, bostonfred is incorrect. Packer fans revere their Packer legends. They are hailed as heros in this state. Plenty of Packers have gone on to other teams, but have been respected as they exit and welcomed back with open arms when they return. Look no further than our feelings toward Aaron Kampan, a guy that got a fairly raw deal from the font office, but never went out of his way to talk about 'revenge' on the Packers. In fact, Kampan took out a full page newspaper ad thanking the fans for their support.The difference is Favre was less than straightforward in his dealings with Green Bay, and wanted us to believe 'his' version of events. His aim was divide the fan base and paint Ted Thompson as the bad guy. He wanted to enjoy the same control of the team he had when Mike Sherman was in town, and Thompson believed 'control' belonged to the GM.

Regardless of which 'side' you took during the Green Bay departure, most reasonable people now feel they were duped by Favre. His off field demeanor was really buried in Green Bay, and the press has readily admitted they kept stories buried out of respect for what Favre had done in Green Bay. Once he hit New York, all bets were off, and it really opened people's eyes to Favre off the field.

I can separate off field vs. on field to an extent. I will always, always respect what the guy did on the field. He was a big part of bringing Green Bay back from the abyss. But I can also objectively look at the situation and understand that he wasn't the guy we all thought he was off the field. And that's hard for many of us to justify.

Regardless, when he's ready to come back to Green Bay to be inducted into the Ring of Honor, I'll stand up, cheer, and fondly remember all that he meant to the franchise. And I'm not alone on this.
Absurd. Packers fans turned their back on Favre long before these "buried stories" started coming to light. This thread has all the evidence you could ask for of this fact.
:kicksrock: You can keep your blinders on if you want, but what the previous poster said is correct.
 
The thing that gets me in all of this is the Packers fans who have turned on Favre. He's still one of my favorite players ever to play the game, and I went out of my way to get tickets to the Pats/Vikes game earlier this year to get one last chance to see him. I used to buy into the notion that the Green Bay contingent was special - that there was some kind of loyal fanbase who bought shares in the team and sold out the stadium in the freezing cold despite their tiny market and was part of the lore of the NFL. Now I look at them as just one more group of jaded fans who will turn on the greatest player in franchise history and talk about him like just another former player in the era of free agency. This is easily the uncoolest response by a fanbase that I can remember to any event in sports in my lifetime.
No, bostonfred is incorrect. Packer fans revere their Packer legends. They are hailed as heros in this state. Plenty of Packers have gone on to other teams, but have been respected as they exit and welcomed back with open arms when they return. Look no further than our feelings toward Aaron Kampan, a guy that got a fairly raw deal from the font office, but never went out of his way to talk about 'revenge' on the Packers. In fact, Kampan took out a full page newspaper ad thanking the fans for their support.The difference is Favre was less than straightforward in his dealings with Green Bay, and wanted us to believe 'his' version of events. His aim was divide the fan base and paint Ted Thompson as the bad guy. He wanted to enjoy the same control of the team he had when Mike Sherman was in town, and Thompson believed 'control' belonged to the GM.

Regardless of which 'side' you took during the Green Bay departure, most reasonable people now feel they were duped by Favre. His off field demeanor was really buried in Green Bay, and the press has readily admitted they kept stories buried out of respect for what Favre had done in Green Bay. Once he hit New York, all bets were off, and it really opened people's eyes to Favre off the field.

I can separate off field vs. on field to an extent. I will always, always respect what the guy did on the field. He was a big part of bringing Green Bay back from the abyss. But I can also objectively look at the situation and understand that he wasn't the guy we all thought he was off the field. And that's hard for many of us to justify.

Regardless, when he's ready to come back to Green Bay to be inducted into the Ring of Honor, I'll stand up, cheer, and fondly remember all that he meant to the franchise. And I'm not alone on this.
Absurd. Packers fans turned their back on Favre long before these "buried stories" started coming to light. This thread has all the evidence you could ask for of this fact.
:kicksrock: You can keep your blinders on if you want, but what the previous poster said is correct.
Any Packer fan that craps on Favre is a moron. Favre had his day and now Rodgers has his. Aaron is the guy the will lead the Pack from here on. Brett Was, Aaron is. Feel appreciative that you can span two QB's with no dropoff.
 
The thing that gets me in all of this is the Packers fans who have turned on Favre. He's still one of my favorite players ever to play the game, and I went out of my way to get tickets to the Pats/Vikes game earlier this year to get one last chance to see him. I used to buy into the notion that the Green Bay contingent was special - that there was some kind of loyal fanbase who bought shares in the team and sold out the stadium in the freezing cold despite their tiny market and was part of the lore of the NFL. Now I look at them as just one more group of jaded fans who will turn on the greatest player in franchise history and talk about him like just another former player in the era of free agency. This is easily the uncoolest response by a fanbase that I can remember to any event in sports in my lifetime.
No, bostonfred is incorrect. Packer fans revere their Packer legends. They are hailed as heros in this state. Plenty of Packers have gone on to other teams, but have been respected as they exit and welcomed back with open arms when they return. Look no further than our feelings toward Aaron Kampan, a guy that got a fairly raw deal from the font office, but never went out of his way to talk about 'revenge' on the Packers. In fact, Kampan took out a full page newspaper ad thanking the fans for their support.The difference is Favre was less than straightforward in his dealings with Green Bay, and wanted us to believe 'his' version of events. His aim was divide the fan base and paint Ted Thompson as the bad guy. He wanted to enjoy the same control of the team he had when Mike Sherman was in town, and Thompson believed 'control' belonged to the GM.

Regardless of which 'side' you took during the Green Bay departure, most reasonable people now feel they were duped by Favre. His off field demeanor was really buried in Green Bay, and the press has readily admitted they kept stories buried out of respect for what Favre had done in Green Bay. Once he hit New York, all bets were off, and it really opened people's eyes to Favre off the field.

I can separate off field vs. on field to an extent. I will always, always respect what the guy did on the field. He was a big part of bringing Green Bay back from the abyss. But I can also objectively look at the situation and understand that he wasn't the guy we all thought he was off the field. And that's hard for many of us to justify.

Regardless, when he's ready to come back to Green Bay to be inducted into the Ring of Honor, I'll stand up, cheer, and fondly remember all that he meant to the franchise. And I'm not alone on this.
Absurd. Packers fans turned their back on Favre long before these "buried stories" started coming to light. This thread has all the evidence you could ask for of this fact.
:goodposting: You can keep your blinders on if you want, but what the previous poster said is correct.
Any Packer fan that craps on Favre is a moron. Favre had his day and now Rodgers has his. Aaron is the guy the will lead the Pack from here on. Brett Was, Aaron is. Feel appreciative that you can span two QB's with no dropoff.
Colts and Patriots fans are certainly not looking forward to the inevitable.
 
It was the right move at the time, though it could have been done sooner. Rogers is a great QB.
I knew Rogers was good but watching the game very close last night I never realized what a quick release and great arm he has. Very impressive.
 
Any Packer fan that craps on Favre is a moron. Favre had his day and now Rodgers has his. Aaron is the guy the will lead the Pack from here on. Brett Was, Aaron is. Feel appreciative that you can span two QB's with no dropoff.
We're just returning the crap that he left for us. Everyone know the story. He was treated like a God around here but decided that wasn't good enough. He even turned down $20 million to stay retired and be an ambassador to the team.Rodgers has shown a lot of class through it all and is more accurate than Brett and without the negatives.Good luck Brett in your retirement but we are better off with with Rodgers.
 
It was the right move at the time, though it could have been done sooner. Rogers is a great QB.
I knew Rogers was good but watching the game very close last night I never realized what a quick release and great arm he has. Very impressive.
Ross Tucker (ESPN): “I know this sounds crazy, but Aaron Rodgers throws like Dan Marino & moves like Steve Young. He really does. I’m still not over it.”That is one scary hybrid.
 
Being a Packers fan in VA, I think it changes things a little. I don't get to see the daily stuff and insider stuff that people in the GB area see/read/hear, which may be a good thing. I always appreciated Favre and thought of him as a Packer Legend, but since he left GB, I would never pull for him unless we needed his team to beat xxx team for standings or division reasons. If anyone thinks that makes me a bad fan, they can kiss my butt, I don't tell anyone else how to root for their team and I don't need anyone telling me how to root for my team. TIA

 
Being a Packers fan in VA, I think it changes things a little. I don't get to see the daily stuff and insider stuff that people in the GB area see/read/hear, which may be a good thing. I always appreciated Favre and thought of him as a Packer Legend, but since he left GB, I would never pull for him unless we needed his team to beat xxx team for standings or division reasons. If anyone thinks that makes me a bad fan, they can kiss my butt, I don't tell anyone else how to root for their team and I don't need anyone telling me how to root for my team. TIA
Don't you realize that the whole purpose of the Shark Pool is to tell people what to do?
 
The thing that gets me in all of this is the Packers fans who have turned on Favre. He's still one of my favorite players ever to play the game, and I went out of my way to get tickets to the Pats/Vikes game earlier this year to get one last chance to see him. I used to buy into the notion that the Green Bay contingent was special - that there was some kind of loyal fanbase who bought shares in the team and sold out the stadium in the freezing cold despite their tiny market and was part of the lore of the NFL. Now I look at them as just one more group of jaded fans who will turn on the greatest player in franchise history and talk about him like just another former player in the era of free agency. This is easily the uncoolest response by a fanbase that I can remember to any event in sports in my lifetime.
No, bostonfred is incorrect. Packer fans revere their Packer legends. They are hailed as heros in this state. Plenty of Packers have gone on to other teams, but have been respected as they exit and welcomed back with open arms when they return. Look no further than our feelings toward Aaron Kampan, a guy that got a fairly raw deal from the font office, but never went out of his way to talk about 'revenge' on the Packers. In fact, Kampan took out a full page newspaper ad thanking the fans for their support.The difference is Favre was less than straightforward in his dealings with Green Bay, and wanted us to believe 'his' version of events. His aim was divide the fan base and paint Ted Thompson as the bad guy. He wanted to enjoy the same control of the team he had when Mike Sherman was in town, and Thompson believed 'control' belonged to the GM.

Regardless of which 'side' you took during the Green Bay departure, most reasonable people now feel they were duped by Favre. His off field demeanor was really buried in Green Bay, and the press has readily admitted they kept stories buried out of respect for what Favre had done in Green Bay. Once he hit New York, all bets were off, and it really opened people's eyes to Favre off the field.

I can separate off field vs. on field to an extent. I will always, always respect what the guy did on the field. He was a big part of bringing Green Bay back from the abyss. But I can also objectively look at the situation and understand that he wasn't the guy we all thought he was off the field. And that's hard for many of us to justify.

Regardless, when he's ready to come back to Green Bay to be inducted into the Ring of Honor, I'll stand up, cheer, and fondly remember all that he meant to the franchise. And I'm not alone on this.
Absurd. Packers fans turned their back on Favre long before these "buried stories" started coming to light. This thread has all the evidence you could ask for of this fact.
:bag: You can keep your blinders on if you want, but what the previous poster said is correct.
Any Packer fan that craps on Favre is a moron. Favre had his day and now Rodgers has his. Aaron is the guy the will lead the Pack from here on. Brett Was, Aaron is. Feel appreciative that you can span two QB's with no dropoff.
Damn :thumbup:
 
The Packers, one of the most storied franchises in NFL history, top two offensive playoff performances have now been in two of Aaron Rodgers' first three playoff starts. That is pretty amazing.

 
Being a Packers fan in VA, I think it changes things a little. I don't get to see the daily stuff and insider stuff that people in the GB area see/read/hear, which may be a good thing. I always appreciated Favre and thought of him as a Packer Legend, but since he left GB, I would never pull for him unless we needed his team to beat xxx team for standings or division reasons. If anyone thinks that makes me a bad fan, they can kiss my butt, I don't tell anyone else how to root for their team and I don't need anyone telling me how to root for my team. TIA
You sound like a rational fan. You don't have to root for Favre, and you definitely don't have to root for the Vikings. The part that confuses me is the hate from some of the fans for one of the iconic players in team history - and NFL history. It's just baffling.
 
Being a Packers fan in VA, I think it changes things a little. I don't get to see the daily stuff and insider stuff that people in the GB area see/read/hear, which may be a good thing. I always appreciated Favre and thought of him as a Packer Legend, but since he left GB, I would never pull for him unless we needed his team to beat xxx team for standings or division reasons. If anyone thinks that makes me a bad fan, they can kiss my butt, I don't tell anyone else how to root for their team and I don't need anyone telling me how to root for my team. TIA
You sound like a rational fan. You don't have to root for Favre, and you definitely don't have to root for the Vikings. The part that confuses me is the hate from some of the fans for one of the iconic players in team history - and NFL history. It's just baffling.
I agree. Favre gave the Packers, their fans and the NFL, great memories while he was a Packer. It is amazing the hate that many Packer fans have for a player that will be considered one of their best ever.
 
Being a Packers fan in VA, I think it changes things a little. I don't get to see the daily stuff and insider stuff that people in the GB area see/read/hear, which may be a good thing. I always appreciated Favre and thought of him as a Packer Legend, but since he left GB, I would never pull for him unless we needed his team to beat xxx team for standings or division reasons. If anyone thinks that makes me a bad fan, they can kiss my butt, I don't tell anyone else how to root for their team and I don't need anyone telling me how to root for my team. TIA
You sound like a rational fan. You don't have to root for Favre, and you definitely don't have to root for the Vikings. The part that confuses me is the hate from some of the fans for one of the iconic players in team history - and NFL history. It's just baffling.
:thumbup: I don't see 9ers fans hating Montana or Rice like this. Time to get over it, his career is over and he was AWESOME for you! To still hate him is ridiculous and this thread needs to end.
 
Being a Packers fan in VA, I think it changes things a little. I don't get to see the daily stuff and insider stuff that people in the GB area see/read/hear, which may be a good thing. I always appreciated Favre and thought of him as a Packer Legend, but since he left GB, I would never pull for him unless we needed his team to beat xxx team for standings or division reasons. If anyone thinks that makes me a bad fan, they can kiss my butt, I don't tell anyone else how to root for their team and I don't need anyone telling me how to root for my team. TIA
You sound like a rational fan. You don't have to root for Favre, and you definitely don't have to root for the Vikings. The part that confuses me is the hate from some of the fans for one of the iconic players in team history - and NFL history. It's just baffling.
He hated us fans first. Then we hated him back. It shouldn't be too difficult of a concept to grasp.
 
trout said:
bostonfred said:
DesmondBishop said:
Being a Packers fan in VA, I think it changes things a little. I don't get to see the daily stuff and insider stuff that people in the GB area see/read/hear, which may be a good thing. I always appreciated Favre and thought of him as a Packer Legend, but since he left GB, I would never pull for him unless we needed his team to beat xxx team for standings or division reasons. If anyone thinks that makes me a bad fan, they can kiss my butt, I don't tell anyone else how to root for their team and I don't need anyone telling me how to root for my team. TIA
You sound like a rational fan. You don't have to root for Favre, and you definitely don't have to root for the Vikings. The part that confuses me is the hate from some of the fans for one of the iconic players in team history - and NFL history. It's just baffling.
He hated us fans first. Then we hated him back. It shouldn't be too difficult of a concept to grasp.
That is so wrong. Even if you think that why can't you get over that and remember all the great years he gave Packer fans.
 
My personal belief is that in a couple years or so, all will be forgotten/forgiven and Packer fans in general will embrace Favre again and I think he will go into the HOF as a Packer. I definitely do not hate him, I hated him as the Vikings QB, but again I hate every non-Packer in our division. :-)

I am sure some fans, and I would think maybe the ones closer (In location) to the Pack may take longer to feel differently and some may never get past it, but many will move on. Definitely if Brett comes to the Pack as an organization and us as fans and says that is how he wants to be remembered (As a Packer). That is if he even cares or wants to be remembered that way.

 
Heatman said:
bostonfred said:
DesmondBishop said:
Being a Packers fan in VA, I think it changes things a little. I don't get to see the daily stuff and insider stuff that people in the GB area see/read/hear, which may be a good thing. I always appreciated Favre and thought of him as a Packer Legend, but since he left GB, I would never pull for him unless we needed his team to beat xxx team for standings or division reasons. If anyone thinks that makes me a bad fan, they can kiss my butt, I don't tell anyone else how to root for their team and I don't need anyone telling me how to root for my team. TIA
You sound like a rational fan. You don't have to root for Favre, and you definitely don't have to root for the Vikings. The part that confuses me is the hate from some of the fans for one of the iconic players in team history - and NFL history. It's just baffling.
:coffee: I don't see 9ers fans hating Montana or Rice like this. Time to get over it, his career is over and he was AWESOME for you! To still hate him is ridiculous and this thread needs to end.
The difference is, neither Rice nor Montana jerked the franchise around like Favre did. He retired, no he didn't, yes he did, no he didn't, yes he did, and THEN, tried everything he possibly could to make sure he ended up on a team that could screw the Packers.
 
First of all, the word hate is being thrown around far too loosely to characterize Packers' fans feelings about Brett Favre. And the pleasure drawn from watching him fall on his face this year is perfectly rational considering the fact that he pined to go to one of our two biggest rivals to "stick it to us", and then told the other rival to beat us and keep us out of the playoffs as recently as 3 weeks ago.

Whether or not he means to direct it towards the fans or simply the organization is irrelevant. When you do and say these things about a team you played with for 18 years, the fans of the team are going to take those things personally, like it or not.

That being said, as a little time passes and both Favre and the fans get over what transpired the last 3 years, he will once again be rightfully celebrated for his accomplishments in Green and Gold. Those questioning where this Favre backlash comes from, simply aren't close enough to the situation to have heard all of the things Favre has done to tarnish his legacy here. You're not going to understand without the full picture. It's enough to fill up a book.

 
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