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HyperActive 3 Initial Dynasty Draft (1 Viewer)

jeter23

jeter23

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The third version of HyperActive has started and I wanted to post so anyone who wanted to follow/comment/question/criticize could do so here.

Some background on the HA leagues...

HA1 started 2 years ago when several of us FBGs were complaining about the lack of activity in our dynasty leagues. We decided to create our own league based on year round activity. Each of the 3 leagues are filled with 24 owners, almost exclusively FBGs. All of our owners are sought out and “recruited” to hopefully ensure that we have the most active and competitive league we can create. Each league is divided into 2 12 team conferences and the conference champs meet each year for the Super Bowl and the HyperActive title.

The draft for HA3 started this weekend and includes many active contributors and even staff members. HA3 owners, jump in and defend your draft/team.

Drafts:

Hyper

Active

 
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Barring a trade that I need to explain, I will withhold commentary on picks until the draft is near the end.

 
Wannabee has the 2.05, 2.11, 3.02, 3.08, and the 4.05...I like his team already and he hasn't made a pick.

I notice Louisville Legends got 3 of the first 15 picks or so in the Hyper League as well...I compete against them in H/A and H/A 2, they both seem to be able to put their action plans in almost any dynasty draft they play in.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Who is Jones?1.07 and he takes Tom Brady in a league where pass TD are only 4 pts...and it's PPR, "You chose poorly"
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I didn't think it would be popular. :lol: That said, in the exact same scoring in another league last year, 8 of the top 12 overall scorers were QBs (even with 4 per TD pass). There's some misnomers relating to the 4 point TD pass in the FF community, IMO. I did try to trade down, but Brady was an easy choice for me with my strategy in this particular draft. Would he have been there in round 2? Maybe, but I certainly didn't want to lose him. BTW, I don't expect another 50 TD season, but I do believe he's a virtual lock for QB1 again this year. Also, I'm totally aware of the WR position's importance in PPR. While I took Ronnie Brown with my 2nd round pick, WR will be a big part of my team dynamic when it's all said & done. Just wanted to explain myself a little bit. :thumbup:
 
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I have 1.1 in Active and took ADP. Easy choice. I am a Viking fan and just think he is the best RB . LT2 is getting up there so if ADP can stay healthy I have a great start to my team.

 
Football Jones said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Who is Jones?1.07 and he takes Tom Brady in a league where pass TD are only 4 pts...and it's PPR, "You chose poorly"
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I didn't think it would be popular. ;) That said, in the exact same scoring in another league last year, 8 of the top 12 overall scorers were QBs (even with 4 per TD pass). There's some misnomers relating to the 4 point TD pass in the FF community, IMO. I did try to trade down, but Brady was an easy choice for me with my strategy in this particular draft. Would he have been there in round 2? Maybe, but I certainly didn't want to lose him. BTW, I don't expect another 50 TD season, but I do believe he's a virtual lock for QB1 again this year. Also, I'm totally aware of the WR position's importance in PPR. While I took Ronnie Brown with my 2nd round pick, WR will be a big part of my team dynamic when it's all said & done. Just wanted to explain myself a little bit. :)
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Of course the QBs are 8 of the top 12...but the difference from a VBD method...not much seperation. If you think Brady is going to zip out 50 TD again...good luck with that.You even prove the point that with 8 of the top 12 are QBs...why waste a 1st rounder on a Qb when you can get another Qb that will give you one of those 8 of 12 you speak of. I wish you well, good luck, sounds like you have a plan, no reason to listen to me.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
Football Jones said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Who is Jones?

1.07 and he takes Tom Brady in a league where pass TD are only 4 pts...and it's PPR,

"You chose poorly"
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I didn't think it would be popular. ;) That said, in the exact same scoring in another league last year, 8 of the top 12 overall scorers were QBs (even with 4 per TD pass). There's some misnomers relating to the 4 point TD pass in the FF community, IMO. I did try to trade down, but Brady was an easy choice for me with my strategy in this particular draft. Would he have been there in round 2? Maybe, but I certainly didn't want to lose him. BTW, I don't expect another 50 TD season, but I do believe he's a virtual lock for QB1 again this year. Also, I'm totally aware of the WR position's importance in PPR. While I took Ronnie Brown with my 2nd round pick, WR will be a big part of my team dynamic when it's all said & done. Just wanted to explain myself a little bit. :)
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Of course the QBs are 8 of the top 12...but the difference from a VBD method...not much seperation. If you think Brady is going to zip out 50 TD again...good luck with that.You even prove the point that with 8 of the top 12 are QBs...why waste a 1st rounder on a Qb when you can get another Qb that will give you one of those 8 of 12 you speak of.

I wish you well, good luck, sounds like you have a plan, no reason to listen to me.
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I understand where you're coming from (VBD, etc.), I really do. It's the difference in points at QB I'm concerned with (from Brady to whatever QB I can get later). Also, I've already stated I don't expect 50. However, I do expect Brady to score quite a bit more FF points than the vast majority of the other guys. Anyway, I could've very well taken Ronnie Brown with 1.7 (who I like as well as any RB besides the big-5) & then went Brady @ 2.6. It would've taken me to the same place. I guess there's lots of ways to skin a cat. Let's agree to disagree. :)

 
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Made a few trades to acquire the ability to move up to 2.4, and I went with Andre Johnson. By grabbing the 2.4, it allowed me to take Mendenhall at 2.3, without the 2.4, I would have chickened out and went with the top wideout. Almost went Stewart over AJ, to form a deadly trio at RB, but felt like an anchor at WR was needed. I also quickly considered Braylon over Mendenhall to pair with AJ, and that would have been nasty.

So far:

MJD, Mendenhall and Andre Johnson.

Next pick: 3.10, then 63, 82, 84 and 87.

With Mendy, Stewart, AJ and Braylon all available, what would you have done? (2 of the 4) to pair with MJD (who I chose over Reggie Bush)

 
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Team Legacy said:
Made a few trades to acquire the ability to move up to 2.4, and I went with Andre Johnson. By grabbing the 2.4, it allowed me to take Mendenhall at 2.3, without the 2.4, I would have chickened out and went with the top wideout. Almost went Stewart over AJ, to form a deadly trio at RB, but felt like an anchor at WR was needed. I also quickly considered Braylon over Mendenhall to pair with AJ, and that would have been nasty.

So far:

MJD, Mendenhall and Andre Johnson.

Next pick: 3.10, then 63, 82, 84 and 87.

With Mendy, Stewart, AJ and Braylon all available, what would you have done? (2 of the 4) to pair with MJD (who I chose over Reggie Bush)
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AJ / Braylon with only 1 starting RB required.ETA: still a nice base to build from.

 
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I gave up the 2.12, 4.12, and 12.12 for Reggie Wayne (taken at 1.12 previously), 9.02, and 14.11.

My team so far is -

ADP - 1.01

Reggie Wayne (via trade)

Tony Romo - 3.01

Lee Evans - 5.01

 
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I have started by getting Reggie Bush at 11 and Fitz at 13. I had to move up one spot to secure Fitz. Also, I know many are down on Reggie bush at this point, but in a PPR league, I think he was very good value at the 11 spot.

 
Team Legacy said:
Made a few trades to acquire the ability to move up to 2.4, and I went with Andre Johnson. By grabbing the 2.4, it allowed me to take Mendenhall at 2.3, without the 2.4, I would have chickened out and went with the top wideout. Almost went Stewart over AJ, to form a deadly trio at RB, but felt like an anchor at WR was needed. I also quickly considered Braylon over Mendenhall to pair with AJ, and that would have been nasty.

So far:

MJD, Mendenhall and Andre Johnson.

Next pick: 3.10, then 63, 82, 84 and 87.

With Mendy, Stewart, AJ and Braylon all available, what would you have done? (2 of the 4) to pair with MJD (who I chose over Reggie Bush)
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Nothing personal, and everyone has their own rankings, but here is my criticism......First, I would not have chosen MJD over Bush in PPR.....Most fantasy leaguers are passing judgment on Bush way too early in his career thinking he will not amount to much.....What I see is a 300 pts scorer year in and year out.......1500+ total yds (conservative est.), 85+ rec, double-digit TDs.....pretty much every year barring injury.....

Next two picks would have been 2 dynamic WRs........Mendenhall may never produce as well as Braylon, Andre "2000", or Fitz in a PPR......So, B.E. and AJ would have been my selections

Starting off with Bush, AJ, and B.E., you could add your 2nd RB with the 3.10......like Turner, possibly Jamal, if you like him.....Or, if you are more of a risk-taker with the potential for a huge boom I'd take another WR at 3.10 like Chad, who is falling like a meteor, or Boldin......I've had two PPR drafts already this year, and RBs can be had with your picks in the 63-87 range, that's why if it were me with your arrangement of picks, I'd go with Bush (PPR dynamo) and 3 straight stud WRs and get some serviceable and/or youthful RBs later......

 
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Team Legacy said:
Made a few trades to acquire the ability to move up to 2.4, and I went with Andre Johnson. By grabbing the 2.4, it allowed me to take Mendenhall at 2.3, without the 2.4, I would have chickened out and went with the top wideout. Almost went Stewart over AJ, to form a deadly trio at RB, but felt like an anchor at WR was needed. I also quickly considered Braylon over Mendenhall to pair with AJ, and that would have been nasty.

So far:

MJD, Mendenhall and Andre Johnson.

Next pick: 3.10, then 63, 82, 84 and 87.

With Mendy, Stewart, AJ and Braylon all available, what would you have done? (2 of the 4) to pair with MJD (who I chose over Reggie Bush)
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bush, portis, edwards or moss. i like aj but the dude needs to stay healthy.
 
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I havnt been invited to participate in HAL2 or 3. I guess being a celler dweller in HAL has tainted my chances ...

 
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I havnt been invited to participate in HAL2 or 3. I guess being a celler dweller in HAL has tainted my chances ...
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JAA, we welcome cellar dwellers. I sent a mass email to HA1 and 2 owners in the winter. Sorry we missed each other.
 
jeter23 said:
I have started by getting Reggie Bush at 11 and Fitz at 13. I had to move up one spot to secure Fitz. Also, I know many are down on Reggie bush at this point, but in a PPR league, I think he was very good value at the 11 spot.
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i think you had the best start of anyone in the draft.Bush is a complete animal in PPR, has been top 10 PPG both seasons and he still has a lot of upside, i would take him as the 3rd/4th RB in a PPR dynasty. I know this isn't a popular stance, but i could even see someone taking him #1 in this leagues setup.Fitz should have also gone sooner IMO. He's going to be a staple of your team for years to come and as with Bush still has upside left.Nice job.
 
I took ADP with #1 overall and then waited to 2.12 and 3.1. I missed out on Brady and Manning by 1 and 2 picks. So I was faced with Maroney, MaGahee, Boldin, Steve Smith and the 2 I took Larry and Calvin Johnson. I must be higher on LJ than anyone else. Here is a 28 year old that has gone over 17 TDs twice and really doesn't have a lot of wear on his tires. I felt he was the best RB narrowly over MaGahee. Maroney is young and in a great offense but still hasn't topped 1000 yards. Smith should have been the pick but is going to be 30 next year. Boldin has injury and relocation issues. It came down to me adding up Maroney and Cal Johnson's points from last year. Johnson is 23 and I see a lt of L Fitzgerald in him.

To be honest I am not thrilled with the picks but chose what I thought was best. I had LJ #9 overall. I bypassed 6 guys on my list to select CJ. Hope it was the right decision.

What would you have done?

 
RustyFA said:
I took ADP with #1 overall and then waited to 2.12 and 3.1. I missed out on Brady and Manning by 1 and 2 picks. So I was faced with Maroney, MaGahee, Boldin, Steve Smith and the 2 I took Larry and Calvin Johnson. I must be higher on LJ than anyone else. Here is a 28 year old that has gone over 17 TDs twice and really doesn't have a lot of wear on his tires. I felt he was the best RB narrowly over MaGahee. Maroney is young and in a great offense but still hasn't topped 1000 yards. Smith should have been the pick but is going to be 30 next year. Boldin has injury and relocation issues. It came down to me adding up Maroney and Cal Johnson's points from last year. Johnson is 23 and I see a lt of L Fitzgerald in him.To be honest I am not thrilled with the picks but chose what I thought was best. I had LJ #9 overall. I bypassed 6 guys on my list to select CJ. Hope it was the right decision.What would you have done?
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McGahee and Boldin. McGahee in a WCO could be SA in his prime plus some. :goodposting:
 
Wannabee:

QB1: Tom Brady

WR1 Larry Fitzgerald

WR2 Steve Smith

WR3 Wes Welker...Welker as the WR3 in a PPR league...OMG!!! I said I liked his draft before he started picking. I'm sorry but no one can touch that for 3 WR...oh and he a 4.05 pick that will only sharpen the blade...and then I think he has 3 picks in either the 7th, 8th or maybe 9th round...I would just get the trophy ready for him because whether he gets that RB he needs this year or finds it next year Wannabee has a terrific team to build around. RBs come and go but he has 3 studs at WR.

Box scores come Monday...

Brady: 21/30...300yds, 3 TD

Fitzgerald: 7 rec 100 yds TD

Steve Smith: 6 rec 90 yds TD

Wes Welker: 7 rec 80 yds TD

27+23+21+21=92 points already and he hasn't fielded a RB, TE, Def or PK yet...WOW!!!

 
And just to throw a little salt in the wound...

Wannabee / Seattle Stars Trade: Wannabee gave up Year 2008 Draft Pick 6.05

Seattle Stars gave up Year 2008 Draft Pick 9.06; Year 2009 Round 1 Draft Pick from Seattle Stars

He might have a top5 pick in the rookie draft next season to boot. Seattle Stars picked Portis with his 1st rounder...maybe it will be a top3 pick actually.

 
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Similar to what you have in your league...Wannabee is putting on an absolute clinic on how to load up in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th...then come back in the middle rounds strong again. Owners will be chasing flavors of the month in the 4th, 5th, and 6th while Jeff is busy working with his army of WR in minicamps...I am just stunned that the owners did not catch on to what he had planned. He tried this in Hyper 2 last season and did pretty well but practice makes perfect and he has just taken a blowtorch to this draft.

 
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Similar to what you have in your league...Wannabee is putting on an absolute clinic on how to load up in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th...then come back in the middle rounds strong again. Owners will be chasing flavors of the month in the 4th, 5th, and 6th while Jeff is busy working with his army of WR in minicamps...I am just stunned that the owners did not catch on to what he had planned. He tried this in Hyper 2 last season and did pretty well but practice makes perfect and he has just taken a blowtorch to this draft.
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Funny that you talk about flavors of the month. What do you think Brady and Welker are? Neither player will reproduce his career year. Add in the risk of Steve Smith and the complete absence of a RB and I wouldn't go as far as saying Jeff has "taken a blowtorch to this draft." It's a good start. Maybe even a championship start. But it's a bit premature to be spreading the hyperbole based on a handful of picks.

 
EBF said:
Ministry of Pain said:
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Similar to what you have in your league...Wannabee is putting on an absolute clinic on how to load up in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th...then come back in the middle rounds strong again. Owners will be chasing flavors of the month in the 4th, 5th, and 6th while Jeff is busy working with his army of WR in minicamps...I am just stunned that the owners did not catch on to what he had planned. He tried this in Hyper 2 last season and did pretty well but practice makes perfect and he has just taken a blowtorch to this draft.
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Funny that you talk about flavors of the month. What do you think Brady and Welker are? Neither player will reproduce his career year. Add in the risk of Steve Smith and the complete absence of a RB and I wouldn't go as far as saying Jeff has "taken a blowtorch to this draft." It's a good start. Maybe even a championship start. But it's a bit premature to be spreading the hyperbole based on a handful of picks.
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Brady is hardly a 'flavor of the month,' by any definition.

And I'm by no means a fan of his.

 
RustyFA said:
I took ADP with #1 overall and then waited to 2.12 and 3.1. I missed out on Brady and Manning by 1 and 2 picks. So I was faced with Maroney, MaGahee, Boldin, Steve Smith and the 2 I took Larry and Calvin Johnson. I must be higher on LJ than anyone else. Here is a 28 year old that has gone over 17 TDs twice and really doesn't have a lot of wear on his tires. I felt he was the best RB narrowly over MaGahee. Maroney is young and in a great offense but still hasn't topped 1000 yards. Smith should have been the pick but is going to be 30 next year. Boldin has injury and relocation issues. It came down to me adding up Maroney and Cal Johnson's points from last year. Johnson is 23 and I see a lt of L Fitzgerald in him.To be honest I am not thrilled with the picks but chose what I thought was best. I had LJ #9 overall. I bypassed 6 guys on my list to select CJ. Hope it was the right decision.What would you have done?
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I would be elated to have those 3 players. I'm a huge Calvin fan, and getting LJ at the 2/3 turn is highway robbery.
 
Team Legacy said:
Made a few trades to acquire the ability to move up to 2.4, and I went with Andre Johnson. By grabbing the 2.4, it allowed me to take Mendenhall at 2.3, without the 2.4, I would have chickened out and went with the top wideout. Almost went Stewart over AJ, to form a deadly trio at RB, but felt like an anchor at WR was needed. I also quickly considered Braylon over Mendenhall to pair with AJ, and that would have been nasty.

So far:

MJD, Mendenhall and Andre Johnson.

Next pick: 3.10, then 63, 82, 84 and 87.

With Mendy, Stewart, AJ and Braylon all available, what would you have done? (2 of the 4) to pair with MJD (who I chose over Reggie Bush)
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I would not have taken Mendenhall over Braylon. Braylon + Andre at WR would have been lights out.
 
EBF said:
Ministry of Pain said:
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Similar to what you have in your league...Wannabee is putting on an absolute clinic on how to load up in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th...then come back in the middle rounds strong again. Owners will be chasing flavors of the month in the 4th, 5th, and 6th while Jeff is busy working with his army of WR in minicamps...I am just stunned that the owners did not catch on to what he had planned. He tried this in Hyper 2 last season and did pretty well but practice makes perfect and he has just taken a blowtorch to this draft.
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Funny that you talk about flavors of the month. What do you think Brady and Welker are? Neither player will reproduce his career year. Add in the risk of Steve Smith and the complete absence of a RB and I wouldn't go as far as saying Jeff has "taken a blowtorch to this draft." It's a good start. Maybe even a championship start. But it's a bit premature to be spreading the hyperbole based on a handful of picks.
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I never said Brady would post another 50 TD...but I think 40 is well within his reach. Pats don't play a tough schedule and they have 6 games against the Bills, Jets, and Phins...it's not like they are playing the AFC South and NFC East on their schedule.Steve Smith as a WR2? Welker as a WR3? C'mon, EBF he has a great start and has another pick coming in the 4th round.

All 3 of his WR have posted over 100 catches in the last 2-3 years if not last season and it's PPR...he's a taking a blowtorch to that league right now. He is going to be in great shape for years to come too. Welker and Fitz are young, brady is nowhere near retirement and Smith is only 29.

I'll look at some of the other teams EBF, but just from what I saw JT do, I like his team a lot.

 
jeter23 said:
I have started by getting Reggie Bush at 11 and Fitz at 13. I had to move up one spot to secure Fitz. Also, I know many are down on Reggie bush at this point, but in a PPR league, I think he was very good value at the 11 spot.
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I added Willis McGahee at the 3.11, which I thought was very good value. I am up right now and talking trade. There are still many good options, so I think I will just pick.QB:RB: R Bush (1.11), McGahee (3.11)WR: Fitzgerald (2.01)TE:K:D:
 
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Team Legacy said:
Made a few trades to acquire the ability to move up to 2.4, and I went with Andre Johnson. By grabbing the 2.4, it allowed me to take Mendenhall at 2.3, without the 2.4, I would have chickened out and went with the top wideout. Almost went Stewart over AJ, to form a deadly trio at RB, but felt like an anchor at WR was needed. I also quickly considered Braylon over Mendenhall to pair with AJ, and that would have been nasty.

So far:

MJD, Mendenhall and Andre Johnson.

Next pick: 3.10, then 63, 82, 84 and 87.

With Mendy, Stewart, AJ and Braylon all available, what would you have done? (2 of the 4) to pair with MJD (who I chose over Reggie Bush)
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Nothing personal, and everyone has their own rankings, but here is my criticism......First, I would not have chosen MJD over Bush in PPR.....Most fantasy leaguers are passing judgment on Bush way too early in his career thinking he will not amount to much.....What I see is a 300 pts scorer year in and year out.......1500+ total yds (conservative est.), 85+ rec, double-digit TDs.....pretty much every year barring injury.....

Next two picks would have been 2 dynamic WRs........Mendenhall may never produce as well as Braylon, Andre "2000", or Fitz in a PPR......So, B.E. and AJ would have been my selections

Starting off with Bush, AJ, and B.E., you could add your 2nd RB with the 3.10......like Turner, possibly Jamal, if you like him.....Or, if you are more of a risk-taker with the potential for a huge boom I'd take another WR at 3.10 like Chad, who is falling like a meteor, or Boldin......I've had two PPR drafts already this year, and RBs can be had with your picks in the 63-87 range, that's why if it were me with your arrangement of picks, I'd go with Bush (PPR dynamo) and 3 straight stud WRs and get some serviceable and/or youthful RBs later......
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I completely disagree with the bolded part. MJD finished just behind Bush in this format last year. Bush started, what, 10 games? MJD didn't start any. Bush has never had more than 600 rushing yards in a season. There are all kinds of debates about this and MJD is clearly the better back. Bush benefits from the PPR rule in this league but MJD is a hella ball catcher too. If they ever use him more as a ball catcher he will score insane numbers.I don't ever see Bush being anything more than a very high priced piece of a RBBC. That's where he is most effective. But I do see MJD being the primary starter one day....

ETA, I would've also gone with Braylon over Mendy there. I have a man crush on Braylon. I would've taken him over Andre too. I can't get a handle on Andre. He looks like the next 1500 yard WR and then just can't get it done. Thought it was Carr. Maybe a second year with Schaub will bring the magic back....

 
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TheFanatic said:
braven112 said:
Anthony Borbely said:
getting LJ at the 2/3 turn is highway robbery.
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Pretty happy to grab LJ on Hyper side at 4.01My team so far...

http://football33.myfantasyleague.com/2008...F=0005&O=07

Ladainian Tomlinson 1.01

Peyton Manning 2.12

Larry Johnson 4.01
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You better mix in some youth or that team will be really old really fast. I will say this looks like a contender now right away but for the long term you need to mix in some youth....
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Lucky for me its still early and I have a lot of picks in the next 3 rounds...
 
RustyFA said:
I took ADP with #1 overall and then waited to 2.12 and 3.1. I missed out on Brady and Manning by 1 and 2 picks. So I was faced with Maroney, MaGahee, Boldin, Steve Smith and the 2 I took Larry and Calvin Johnson. I must be higher on LJ than anyone else. Here is a 28 year old that has gone over 17 TDs twice and really doesn't have a lot of wear on his tires. I felt he was the best RB narrowly over MaGahee. Maroney is young and in a great offense but still hasn't topped 1000 yards. Smith should have been the pick but is going to be 30 next year. Boldin has injury and relocation issues. It came down to me adding up Maroney and Cal Johnson's points from last year. Johnson is 23 and I see a lt of L Fitzgerald in him.To be honest I am not thrilled with the picks but chose what I thought was best. I had LJ #9 overall. I bypassed 6 guys on my list to select CJ. Hope it was the right decision.What would you have done?
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I am invloved in a similar draft. I have the 1.1 and took ADP. My plan was to see what value fell at RB and also take a WR. Well things have a funny way of working out and I always take what the draft gives me. This is a 12 teamer PPR and you can start 3 RB's or 4 WR's. LJ and McGahee were sitting on the board and I said to myself "How can I pass 2 cow bell full time studs like that?" So I grabbed them both. LJ is only 28 and doesn't have a lot of wear on his tires and McGahee is coming into his prime over the next 2-3 years in a Cam Cameron offense. The WR's on the board were Boldin, Housh, CJ ( with big ??) TO, Calvin, and Roy Williams. I said to myself I can land some value later in the draft at WR and if I can get a Top Tier QB I will take one as well. I like having a QB in dynasty I can start week in week out and never worry about the position.At 4.12 and 5.01 I was faced with limited options at WR. I went ahead and took the reliable and still highly productive Torry Holt (only 31 which is young in WR years) along with superstar QB Dree Brees. I left guys like Lee Evans and Cothery on the board and was chided for not taking those guys which I think is insane. Lee "I score 5-7 points a week" Evans and Cothery who is a nice player but not a high level producer like Holt.So my team looks like thisDrew BreesAdrian "all day" PetersonLarry JohnsonWillis McGaheeTorry HoltI think building around those 5 superstar players will be easy. I have no worries at RB and QB for the next 2-3 years easy. WR's are another story but value will be found in the next 2 rounds as well as some nice young prospects that can be had later.I felt the value was too strong. Brees and Holt will easily outscore a Lee Evans and Cothery over the next few years. I still don't know why people are still taking Lee Evans that early and gloating over Cothery who has an average at best QB and Coles who is still a great NFL player on the other side taking all the dink and dunk stuff that they run.
 
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braven112 said:
TheFanatic said:
braven112 said:
Anthony Borbely said:
getting LJ at the 2/3 turn is highway robbery.
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Pretty happy to grab LJ on Hyper side at 4.01My team so far...

http://football33.myfantasyleague.com/2008...F=0005&O=07

Ladainian Tomlinson 1.01

Peyton Manning 2.12

Larry Johnson 4.01
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You better mix in some youth or that team will be really old really fast. I will say this looks like a contender now right away but for the long term you need to mix in some youth....
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Lucky for me its still early and I have a lot of picks in the next 3 rounds...
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You have plenty of time. I've found in a lot of dynasty league start up drafts youth is valued a bit too much. A guy may shy away from Westbrook because he's getting up there in age and elevate a guy like Gore. For me, I'll take Westbrook. Gore has injury issues and plays to hit rather than avoid contact and it will probably end his career early.

While everyone is looking for youth and wants that true Dynasty team, someone has to win the first year. Go for those vets that only have a couple years left. They may surprise you. Guys like Emmitt, Curtis Martin, Fred Taylor and Tiki all did well after 30. That is becoming more and more common. If Taylor can do it, anyone can?!?!

Don't be afraid to take a vet WR who looks to be on his last legs over some rook WR that may never amount to anything. Remember what Muhamed did a couple of years ago? That was SICK!!! He was supposed to be way past his prime.

A guy like Reche Caldwell in St. Louis or Muhamad back in Carolina would be solid plays.

So, while I say get younger, don't be afraid to ride a solid vet and let someone else gamble. Just try to stash some guys away that have upside that you can watch develop while Caldwell or Moose is starting as your WR3 or WR4....

 
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braven112 said:
TheFanatic said:
braven112 said:
Anthony Borbely said:
getting LJ at the 2/3 turn is highway robbery.
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Pretty happy to grab LJ on Hyper side at 4.01My team so far...

http://football33.myfantasyleague.com/2008...F=0005&O=07

Ladainian Tomlinson 1.01

Peyton Manning 2.12

Larry Johnson 4.01
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You better mix in some youth or that team will be really old really fast. I will say this looks like a contender now right away but for the long term you need to mix in some youth....
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Lucky for me its still early and I have a lot of picks in the next 3 rounds...
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You have plenty of time. I've found in a lot of dynasty league start up drafts youth is valued a bit too much. A guy may shy away from Westbrook because he's getting up there in age and elevate a guy like Gore. For me, I'll take Westbrook. Gore has injury issues and plays to hit rather than avoid contact and it will probably end his career early.

While everyone is looking for youth and wants that true Dynasty team, someone has to win the first year. Go for those vets that only have a couple years left. They may surprise you. Guys like Emmitt, Curtis Martin, Fred Taylor and Tiki all did well after 30. That is becoming more and more common. If Taylor can do it, anyone can?!?!

Don't be afraid to take a vet WR who looks to be on his last legs over some rook WR that may never amount to anything. Remember what Muhamed did a couple of years ago? That was SICK!!! He was supposed to be way past his prime.

A guy like Reche Caldwell in St. Louis or Muhamad back in Carolina would be solid plays.

So, while I say get younger, don't be afraid to ride a solid vet and let someone else gamble. Just try to stash some guys away that have upside that you can watch develop while Caldwell or Moose is starting as your WR3 or WR4....
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Similar to what you have in your league...Wannabee is putting on an absolute clinic on how to load up in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th...then come back in the middle rounds strong again. Owners will be chasing flavors of the month in the 4th, 5th, and 6th while Jeff is busy working with his army of WR in minicamps...I am just stunned that the owners did not catch on to what he had planned. He tried this in Hyper 2 last season and did pretty well but practice makes perfect and he has just taken a blowtorch to this draft.
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Funny that you talk about flavors of the month. What do you think Brady and Welker are? Neither player will reproduce his career year. Add in the risk of Steve Smith and the complete absence of a RB and I wouldn't go as far as saying Jeff has "taken a blowtorch to this draft." It's a good start. Maybe even a championship start. But it's a bit premature to be spreading the hyperbole based on a handful of picks.
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I never said Brady would post another 50 TD...but I think 40 is well within his reach. Pats don't play a tough schedule and they have 6 games against the Bills, Jets, and Phins...it's not like they are playing the AFC South and NFC East on their schedule.Steve Smith as a WR2? Welker as a WR3? C'mon, EBF he has a great start and has another pick coming in the 4th round.

All 3 of his WR have posted over 100 catches in the last 2-3 years if not last season and it's PPR...he's a taking a blowtorch to that league right now. He is going to be in great shape for years to come too. Welker and Fitz are young, brady is nowhere near retirement and Smith is only 29.

I'll look at some of the other teams EBF, but just from what I saw JT do, I like his team a lot.
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I LOVE Jeff's team, I think he's doing a hell of a job, but let's slow the man-love way down a second.I like his team too, I think he'll do fine. Its a sick start, but I had a chance at Welker at 3.10 and passed for Grant. Why? Well, Welker's upside was last year, you saw it. He'll have a game here and there with high recepts, but in a CAREER year for Brady, he was 10th overall. That's his upside. This early in the draft I don't like to swing safe. He also had several games that weren't all that.

6 for 69

3 for 22

4 for 19

7 for 78

3 for 18

3 for 30

5 for 49

IN a CAREER year, he had 7 games where he didn't get me 15 points, so you're a little off on your excitement. Only 6 games he scored a Touchdown and Brady had a career year. I'm not saying I DON'T like Welker as a WR3, I'm just saying, I'll take a dependable RB game to game, which is what I think I have in Grant, 7tds in 10 games started.

 
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As a side note, he doesn't have another pick until the 8th round. Ask me again at the end of the 7th, and while his team may still be elite, it should be closer to the pack.

 
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