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I am f@#$ing done with major concerts (1 Viewer)

Evilgrin 72

Evilgrin 72

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Complete and utter BS. TOOL tickets go on sale at 10:00 AM today. I lock my office door, take my phone off the hook and go online at 9:55 AM. Refreshing the Ticketmaster page obsessively because I know Tool tickets go fast. The second that "MORE INFO" button changes to "SEE TICKETS", I hammer it. Quickly type in the security phrase to prove I'm not a bot. Select "find me the best available seat." 10 second pause and then I get a screen telling me that too many people are buying tickets and that I need to try again or change my # of desired tickets (2.) I try again, same message. I keep hammering the button. Over and over, the same message. Every 5 or so times I resubmit, I have to type in a new security phrase to prove I'm not a bot. I do it all again.....and again....and again...

FOR 35 straight minutes. I probably refreshed close to 1,000 times and entered a scurity phrase close to 200 times. Show sells out, I still have no seats. Out of curiosity, I go over to Stubhub.... they have 1,241 seats available for this show. Naturally, at $135 a ticket (face value was $83.)

F##K this scam. From now on, it's club shows only for me. Luckily, Tool is one of only a small handful of bands I love that enough people actually enjoy for this to be a problem.

 
So dreading this. Son's favorite bands are Tool and Primus and this is earmarked as either his bday or Xmas present. Whenever Chicago tics go on sale, I'm sure I'll run into the same crap

 
And these thieves will keep doing it because enough people will keep buying the marked up tickets from the brokers.

I really am surprised that the government doesn't investigate Ticketmaster. It's pretty obvious that they get kickbacks for giving ticket brokers preferential treatment.

 
I went through this with Sean Mendes. Tickets were sold out 22 seconds after they went on sale. Went to stubhub bc it was a xmas present. But yeah, ticketmaster sucks. Wish PJ was successful in their attempt to take them down

 
AcerFC said:
I went through this with Sean Mendes. Tickets were sold out 22 seconds after they went on sale. Went to stubhub bc it was a xmas present. But yeah, ticketmaster sucks. Wish PJ was successful in their attempt to take them down
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I wish more bands had had the sack to take up the cause. Ticketmaster and all the various ticket brokers are absolutely destroying the live music industry and no one is doing a lot about it. I don't know what else to do besides voice my displeasure directly to them (which I did) and then vote with my wallet (which I am now doing.)

 
I wish TM would just go back to the old method of purchasing tickets... you go and wait in line. If there is high demand, you hold a lottery.

The only way this changes is if everyone stops buying the tickets. Not gonna happen.

edit: plus... going early to wait in line was fun. I remember going to wait for Dead tickets and bringing extra people to grab lottery tickets to try and maximize my chances for a good spot in line. Some fun times were had waiting in line, and there was nothing like that sense of satisfaction walking out with that little envelope.

 
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Evilgrin 72 said:
Complete and utter BS. TOOL tickets go on sale at 10:00 AM today. I lock my office door, take my phone off the hook and go online at 9:55 AM. Refreshing the Ticketmaster page obsessively because I know Tool tickets go fast. The second that "MORE INFO" button changes to "SEE TICKETS", I hammer it. Quickly type in the security phrase to prove I'm not a bot. Select "find me the best available seat." 10 second pause and then I get a screen telling me that too many people are buying tickets and that I need to try again or change my # of desired tickets (2.) I try again, same message. I keep hammering the button. Over and over, the same message. Every 5 or so times I resubmit, I have to type in a new security phrase to prove I'm not a bot. I do it all again.....and again....and again...

FOR 35 straight minutes. I probably refreshed close to 1,000 times and entered a scurity phrase close to 200 times. Show sells out, I still have no seats. Out of curiosity, I go over to Stubhub.... they have 1,241 seats available for this show. Naturally, at $135 a ticket (face value was $83.)

F##K this scam. From now on, it's club shows only for me. Luckily, Tool is one of only a small handful of bands I love that enough people actually enjoy for this to be a problem.
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TOOL? I'm going to have to request a downgrade from Elite Upper Tier poster to Upper Tier poster.

 
Tool sold out quick here... going with a a buddy with local radio station on his promo tickets so I didn't have to deal with the fiasco. Gonna break out my old Ticketbastard T shirt and wear it in your honor this weekend, GB.

 
If you've seen Tool anytime in the past.... I dunno.... 10 years, Id say...

You've seen them.

One of my all time fave bands, who absolutely MAIL IT IN when it comes to live shows now. It's pathetic.

Lateralus tour was the last time they cared about fans and a live performance.

Pearl Jam was a band Ive seen literally nearly 40 times, and each one is as good as the last. Tool plays the exact same set, MAYBE changing one track, no crowd interaction... And Maynard doesnt even attempt to hit the high notes anymore.

After following Tool for 4 straight shows last tour, I wish I had sold the tickets after the first.

Used to be such a great live band.. Just downhill since their "prime", imo.

 
:lol:

I've been doing the same thing all morning since 10. It's impossible unless you want to blow ridiculous :moneybag: .

Looking forward to trying to get seats for Pearl Jam soon.

 
Just watch the concert on Youtube and post it on their FB page. Say "awesome concert, I saw you live 700 times now."

 
SHIZNITTTT said:
So is it a scam? Does Ticketmaster sell a certain number of seats to Stubhub and the likes?
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They must. The went "on sale" at 10 am this morning. They were gone at 10:01 and tons of ticket brokerage sites have them and are selling them for 50%+ of face value.

 
I remember Springsteen being pissed at TM for diverting the tickets directly to Live Nation. There was a lawsuit but it may have been dismissed. Go figure.

Bruce Springsteen has responded to his fans' outcry following Ticketmaster's problem-laden sale of his Working on a Dream tour tickets earlier this week. Countless fans reported technical malfunctions during the onsale, while others complained that Ticketmaster forwarded them to the company's secondary ticket site, TicketsNow, even though seats were still available through Ticketmaster. The New Jersey Attorney General has also announced an investigation into the sale. Ticketmaster has since issued an apology to Springsteen, and vowed to make amends to confused fans.

Link

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
AcerFC said:
I went through this with Sean Mendes. Tickets were sold out 22 seconds after they went on sale. Went to stubhub bc it was a xmas present. But yeah, ticketmaster sucks. Wish PJ was successful in their attempt to take them down
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I wish more bands had had the sack to take up the cause. Ticketmaster and all the various ticket brokers are absolutely destroying the live music industry and no one is doing a lot about it. I don't know what else to do besides voice my displeasure directly to them (which I did) and then vote with my wallet (which I am now doing.)
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Been there, done that. I understand the frustration. That being said, this simply isnt true. The shows are still selling out.

 
It sucks to try and get tickets to big name shows, becuase in many cases only a fraction of the seats are actually available to the public.

About 20 years ago, I saw Billy Joel at the United Center. At the time, my dad had season tickets for the Bulls, so he had rights to get tickets for any concert at the UC. So he got to purchase 4 tickets either in his exact seats or similar seats in case the Blackhawks season ticket holder bought tickets first.

So when you elimiate tickets bought by the Bulls season ticket holders, the Blackhawks season ticket holders, Ticketmaster selling tickets to brokers, and other promotions, I think only about 5K tickets went on sale to the public. And they were gone in about 10 minutes.

I feel Evilgrin72's pain. We have all been there.

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Evilgrin 72 said:
AcerFC said:
I went through this with Sean Mendes. Tickets were sold out 22 seconds after they went on sale. Went to stubhub bc it was a xmas present. But yeah, ticketmaster sucks. Wish PJ was successful in their attempt to take them down
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I wish more bands had had the sack to take up the cause. Ticketmaster and all the various ticket brokers are absolutely destroying the live music industry and no one is doing a lot about it. I don't know what else to do besides voice my displeasure directly to them (which I did) and then vote with my wallet (which I am now doing.)
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Been there, done that. I understand the frustration. That being said, this simply isnt true. The shows are still selling out.
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Sure, wealthy people and corporations will always buy up all the tickets. That makes for a real high-energy show.

 
Soulfly3 said:
If you've seen Tool anytime in the past.... I dunno.... 10 years, Id say...

You've seen them.

One of my all time fave bands, who absolutely MAIL IT IN when it comes to live shows now. It's pathetic.

Lateralus tour was the last time they cared about fans and a live performance.

Pearl Jam was a band Ive seen literally nearly 40 times, and each one is as good as the last. Tool plays the exact same set, MAYBE changing one track, no crowd interaction... And Maynard doesnt even attempt to hit the high notes anymore.

After following Tool for 4 straight shows last tour, I wish I had sold the tickets after the first.

Used to be such a great live band.. Just downhill since their "prime", imo.
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There's a reason Pearl Jam still sells out arenas and folks collect live recordings... indeed they are one of the top live acts going right now.

I've only seen Tool once, and it was in the 90's IIRC. Looking forward to seeing them but thanks for the heads up. Will temper expectations.

 
pyite76 said:
I wish TM would just go back to the old method of purchasing tickets... you go and wait in line. If there is high demand, you hold a lottery.

The only way this changes is if everyone stops buying the tickets. Not gonna happen.

edit: plus... going early to wait in line was fun. I remember going to wait for Dead tickets and bringing extra people to grab lottery tickets to try and maximize my chances for a good spot in line. Some fun times were had waiting in line, and there was nothing like that sense of satisfaction walking out with that little envelope.
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Some of the best nights of my entire teen years. Sleeping out for tickets was awesome, something this generation will probably never experience. Sad.

 
It's too damn loud anyway. You're better off.

Just drink a bunch of bourbon, pop a Vicodin, play their greatest hits album really loudly in your basement... and boom... concert experience

 
Same thing happened with the Tool show here in Charlotte, but tickets are all over 200. Very small venue and not close to downtown so I couldn't go in person. :(

 
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There's a reason Pearl Jam still sells out arenas and folks collect live recordings... indeed they are one of the top live acts going right now.

I've only seen Tool once, and it was in the 90's IIRC. Looking forward to seeing them but thanks for the heads up. Will temper expectations.
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Don't get me wrong... Tool still sounds tight as hell live.

Just... they dont do anything on stage. no movement, no rage no... Tool.

I've been going to Tool shows since the mid-late 90s as well.. The Tool from then gave 100% and Maynard just... man, he just had it. Just awesome to see.

Going thru the motions now. I get that they have an elaborate light/video show and all that... but no band playing the same setlist night after night is going to have that "energy" you go to a show to see.

 
On Iron Maiden's upcoming tour, you need to present the credit card at the arena gate that was used to purchase said tickets. They scan the card at the gate and you get a slip saying where your seats are (of course, you already know where you are seated when you buy the tickets from the ticketmaster website).

No hard tickets, no e-tickets.

Seems rather innovative.

I have no doubt that some hard tickets will leak out through the venue and other such channels but seems a great improvement over the current system described in the original post.

 
Dentist said:
It's too damn loud anyway. You're better off.

Just drink a bunch of bourbon, pop a Vicodin, play their greatest hits album really loudly in your basement... and boom... concert experience
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If you really think this, either you've never seen a truly great show or you and I are not cut from the same cloth.

 
lombardi said:
pyite76 said:
I wish TM would just go back to the old method of purchasing tickets... you go and wait in line. If there is high demand, you hold a lottery.

The only way this changes is if everyone stops buying the tickets. Not gonna happen.

edit: plus... going early to wait in line was fun. I remember going to wait for Dead tickets and bringing extra people to grab lottery tickets to try and maximize my chances for a good spot in line. Some fun times were had waiting in line, and there was nothing like that sense of satisfaction walking out with that little envelope.
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Some of the best nights of my entire teen years. Sleeping out for tickets was awesome, something this generation will probably never experience. Sad.
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:yes: Pillows and blankets in hand, waiting for Deep Purple, Genesis, Iron Maiden...at the Sam Goody on Rt. 1 in Lawrenceville, NJ.

 
brianj74 said:
On Iron Maiden's upcoming tour, you need to present the credit card at the arena gate that was used to purchase said tickets. They scan the card at the gate and you get a slip saying where your seats are (of course, you already know where you are seated when you buy the tickets from the ticketmaster website).

No hard tickets, no e-tickets.

Seems rather innovative.

I have no doubt that some hard tickets will leak out through the venue and other such channels but seems a great improvement over the current system described in the original post.
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Oddly, I got Maiden tickets with no effort whatsoever. :sarcasm:

 
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Soulfly3 said:
[icon] said:
There's a reason Pearl Jam still sells out arenas and folks collect live recordings... indeed they are one of the top live acts going right now.

I've only seen Tool once, and it was in the 90's IIRC. Looking forward to seeing them but thanks for the heads up. Will temper expectations.
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Don't get me wrong... Tool still sounds tight as hell live.

Just... they dont do anything on stage. no movement, no rage no... Tool.

I've been going to Tool shows since the mid-late 90s as well.. The Tool from then gave 100% and Maynard just... man, he just had it. Just awesome to see.

Going thru the motions now. I get that they have an elaborate light/video show and all that... but no band playing the same setlist night after night is going to have that "energy" you go to a show to see.
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Tool is awesome live

 
I mean this is pretty much par for the course with major concerts or pro playoff games. I get in there when stuff opens and get uppers or nothing at all. Got good tix for Jack White last year and decent for Foo Fighters this year. You are in there vs not only people who want to go to the concert, but to thousands more who want to profit off of it.

Only reason to use Fistkebab and their competitors is if you are willing to buy day of, even an hour before the event starts.

 
Amused to Death said:
lombardi said:
pyite76 said:
I wish TM would just go back to the old method of purchasing tickets... you go and wait in line. If there is high demand, you hold a lottery.

The only way this changes is if everyone stops buying the tickets. Not gonna happen.

edit: plus... going early to wait in line was fun. I remember going to wait for Dead tickets and bringing extra people to grab lottery tickets to try and maximize my chances for a good spot in line. Some fun times were had waiting in line, and there was nothing like that sense of satisfaction walking out with that little envelope.
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Some of the best nights of my entire teen years. Sleeping out for tickets was awesome, something this generation will probably never experience. Sad.
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:yes: Pillows and blankets in hand, waiting for Deep Purple, Genesis, Iron Maiden...at the Sam Goody on Rt. 1 in Lawrenceville, NJ.
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For me, it was DJ'c Cycles in Long Branch. It was a real find because most people didn't know it existed - no one thought they'd have a Ticketmaster in a cycle shop. So, only locals and a few in-the-know yutzes like me would go there for big events. I got so many floor/lower bowl seats for Metallica there, I couldn't even count them.

 
Soulfly3 said:
[icon] said:
There's a reason Pearl Jam still sells out arenas and folks collect live recordings... indeed they are one of the top live acts going right now.

I've only seen Tool once, and it was in the 90's IIRC. Looking forward to seeing them but thanks for the heads up. Will temper expectations.
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Don't get me wrong... Tool still sounds tight as hell live.

Just... they dont do anything on stage. no movement, no rage no... Tool.

I've been going to Tool shows since the mid-late 90s as well.. The Tool from then gave 100% and Maynard just... man, he just had it. Just awesome to see.

Going thru the motions now. I get that they have an elaborate light/video show and all that... but no band playing the same setlist night after night is going to have that "energy" you go to a show to see.
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They mix it up a little. Not like Pearl Jam, but they usually rotate a handful of songs through the middle of the set list and begin/end the show the same way.

 
Tool shows are a giant clambake too. Last two times I went, there was so much pot smoke in the air that someone I went to the show with got lightheaded and had to sit down. :lmao:

I'd estimate the % of people on acid/mushrooms at roughly 15-20% as well.

 
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