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aldelgreco

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Have you ever drafted with guppies and left with the sick feeling that you didn't really take advantage of their stupidness enough because you were too worried about value?

This was a 12 person redraft (Keep 1). I took Norwood in the 14th last year, so I got to retain him for a 14th round pick. Some CHICK got to retain T Henry from last year with her 13th round pick.

Look at some of these picks/reaches.

an injured torry holt at 2.02

todd heap at 04.04

tony gonzalez at 04.05

shockey at 04.07

(guess i started a little TE run when I took A Gates with the first pick of the fourth round. these guys all started freaking out thinking now they needed a TE)

romo at 05.01

dallas DEF at 05.04

wes welker at 05.11

randy mcmichael at 07.07 (by the chick that picked shockey in the 4th.)

it gets even crazier in the later rounds..just straight stupid picks.

now i'm sitting here with my wang in my hand wondering what happened, though. I look at my team and don't like it because i didn't think about drafting a team as much as i was so happy to get certain players in certain spot that i went with the Matt Millen "best player on the board" strategy.

1.12 R Bush

2.1 W McGahee

3.12 TJ Housh

4.1 A Gates

5.12 Calvin Johnson

6.1 Julius Jones

7.12 Joey Galloway

8.01 Fred Taylor

9.12 Greg Jennings

10.1 Warrick Dunn

11.12 Brandon Jones

12.1 Kevin Jones

13.12 Chad Pennington

14.1 Jerrious Norwood (keeper)

15.12 Olinda Mare

16.1 OAK D

 
I gotta agree that even without looking at the other teams, yours is probably the worse.

If you look at the first 5 rounds, you have one starting RB and no team's #1 receivers.

 
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Am I reading this right and Chad Pennington is your only QB?

Um, yeah, not a reall good draft, go trade yourself a RB for another throwing body.

 
I am not going to harp on the rest, but how does anyone(shark or guppy) walk out of their draft with their only QB being Chad Pennington?

 
Stingdiddy said:
11.12 Brandon Jones12.1 Kevin Jones13.12 Chad PenningtonThat wasn't your best stretch of the draft.
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Well. Everyone had already picked like 2 and 3 QBs each by then, dude...Pennington was like the only starter left besides like charlie frye or something. :yawn: I know, it sucks. but WTF?I felt like after hearing Kevin Jones was off the PUP (and we all know Tatum Bell sucks, lets be honest)...anyway...I felt like I had to take him in that spot. Brandon Jones is horrible by me, yes. I honestly think Bo Scaife will catch the most balls in TEN this year, but I got to see a private practice down in houston and i just thought of all the guys that VY flew in this summer, that B Jones looked most talented, gifted and on the same page as VY. I think Vince was starting to really trust him, so if he is healthy I guess I thought he could go big. :goodposting:
 
The thing that gets overlooked when people get too wrapped up in "value" is that you have a fixed number of roster spots to work with. At some point you have to let value slide, and can't just take the bpa, because you have to field a starting lineup and you don't have 53 man rosters. It looks like you fell victim to that, especially at qb. The other thing to remember is you can't take advantage of every screw up by someone else in the draft, at least not directly. If you work it right it comes back to you indirectly through the mechanism of other guys you need sliding a few spots lower than they should.

Drafting for value, when done right, doesn't get you a full squad of undervalued guys. It allows you to get guys you need cheaper, and allows you to get an "extra" quality player or two when in a "perfect" draft by everyone you wouldn't.

It looks to me like you should have selected a qb in the 5th,6th or 7th round. You'll be chasing that position all year now I'm afraid and the guys you took at those spots, though on the money for their current ADPs, won't make up for it.

 
aldelgreco said:
Stingdiddy said:
11.12 Brandon Jones

12.1 Kevin Jones

13.12 Chad Pennington

That wasn't your best stretch of the draft.
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Well. Everyone had already picked like 2 and 3 QBs each by then, dude...Pennington was like the only starter left besides like charlie frye or something. :yawn: I know, it sucks. but WTF?

I felt like after hearing Kevin Jones was off the PUP (and we all know Tatum Bell sucks, lets be honest)...anyway...I felt like I had to take him in that spot. Brandon Jones is horrible by me, yes. I honestly think Bo Scaife will catch the most balls in TEN this year, but I got to see a private practice down in houston and i just thought of all the guys that VY flew in this summer, that B Jones looked most talented, gifted and on the same page as VY. I think Vince was starting to really trust him, so if he is healthy I guess I thought he could go big. :goodposting:
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Dude, like, you're the guppy...like dude, there's another dude in your league like talking about you like right now like discussing how YOU'RE THE GUPPY. Like, sorry dude, like, that's just how it is.Pennington is like your only QB dude.

 
Let's see.

No great running back.

One wide receiver.

No QB to speak of.

Seems like you were the guppy and they were the sharks. They all drafted based on what was going on and you were out to lunch somewhere.

 
Stingdiddy said:
aldelgreco said:
Stingdiddy said:
11.12 Brandon Jones

12.1 Kevin Jones

13.12 Chad Pennington

That wasn't your best stretch of the draft.
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Well. Everyone had already picked like 2 and 3 QBs each by then, dude...Pennington was like the only starter left besides like charlie frye or something. :popcorn: I know, it sucks. but WTF?

I felt like after hearing Kevin Jones was off the PUP (and we all know Tatum Bell sucks, lets be honest)...anyway...I felt like I had to take him in that spot. Brandon Jones is horrible by me, yes. I honestly think Bo Scaife will catch the most balls in TEN this year, but I got to see a private practice down in houston and i just thought of all the guys that VY flew in this summer, that B Jones looked most talented, gifted and on the same page as VY. I think Vince was starting to really trust him, so if he is healthy I guess I thought he could go big. :yes:
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Dude, like, you're the guppy...like dude, there's another dude in your league like talking about you like right now like discussing how YOU'RE THE GUPPY. Like, sorry dude, like, that's just how it is.Pennington is like your only QB dude.
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:goodposting:
 
QB - Pennington

RB - Bush, McGahee, JJ, Fred, Dunn/Norwood, KJ

WR - Housh, CJ2, Galloway, Jennings, Brandon Jones

TE - Gates

K - Mare

D - OAK

Your membership to FBG is hereby revoked!

 
aldelgreco said:
Pittsburgh United said:
aldelgreco said:
god i just looked at it again.what a god awful, horrible team.what on earth was i thinking.
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Is this your only league or do you have another one to fall back on?
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no, i have two others. this one costs $500, though...so i am just taking this one extra hard.my other two leagues only cost $100 each. My teams suck in those leagues, too if we are being honest.
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When you're around other league members does the spell of fish oooooz from your skin? Dude, maybe you shouldn't be playing in leagues that cost $500 to get in (I actually don't believe that you paid $500 to get in a league).
 
aldelgreco said:
Have you ever drafted with guppies and left with the sick feeling that you didn't really take advantage of their stupidness enough because you were too worried about value?This was a 12 person redraft (Keep 1). I took Norwood in the 14th last year, so I got to retain him for a 14th round pick. Some CHICK got to retain T Henry from last year with her 13th round pick. Look at some of these picks/reaches.an injured torry holt at 2.02todd heap at 04.04tony gonzalez at 04.05 shockey at 04.07(guess i started a little TE run when I took A Gates with the first pick of the fourth round. these guys all started freaking out thinking now they needed a TE)romo at 05.01dallas DEF at 05.04wes welker at 05.11randy mcmichael at 07.07 (by the chick that picked shockey in the 4th.)it gets even crazier in the later rounds..just straight stupid picks. now i'm sitting here with my wang in my hand wondering what happened, though. I look at my team and don't like it because i didn't think about drafting a team as much as i was so happy to get certain players in certain spot that i went with the Matt Millen "best player on the board" strategy.1.12 R Bush2.1 W McGahee3.12 TJ Housh4.1 A Gates5.12 Calvin Johnson6.1 Julius Jones7.12 Joey Galloway8.01 Fred Taylor9.12 Greg Jennings10.1 Warrick Dunn11.12 Brandon Jones12.1 Kevin Jones13.12 Chad Pennington14.1 Jerrious Norwood (keeper)15.12 Olinda Mare16.1 OAK D
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1. Apparently the "CHICK" who took Henry last year is a shark. That was a very nice sleeper move in a keep 1 league, although may be good as well.2. I think you're okay at RB. Kevin Jones was a nice grab.3. You drafted like Matt Millen - you now need to work on the demillenization of your team. You've got too many RB and not enough QB.4. You're in TX, of course Cowboys are going to go high.It could be worse, I know a guy who had to go TRADE for Pennington, when he ended up with Jason Campbell as his only QB. And he got LT picking first, but he ended up auto-drafting after a certain spot.Drop the sexism, get a clue about needing to draft a team not just players, have a laugh, and enjoy a cold one. :yes:
 
FFDumb said:
I gotta agree that even without looking at the other teams, yours is probably the worse.If you look at the first 5 rounds, you have one starting RB and no team's #1 receivers.
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Which of Bush or McGahee is not a starting RB (unless you mean Duece is the starter which is just playing semantics).
 
Stingdiddy said:
11.12 Brandon Jones12.1 Kevin Jones13.12 Chad PenningtonThat wasn't your best stretch of the draft.
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Kevin Jones in the 12th is a pretty good value in my book. If he doesnt produce, he is either on your IR or you drop him but how many players have a chance to be a top 10 player at their position PPG?
 
Hey Al, just for the hell of it, can you post your possible keepers from last year? I know Norwood for a 14th rounder is nice, but I have a sneaking suspicion you may have had way better...

 
Dirty Weasel said:
QB - PenningtonRB - Bush, McGahee, JJ, Fred, Dunn/Norwood, KJWR - Housh, CJ2, Galloway, Jennings, Brandon JonesTE - GatesK - MareD - OAKYour membership to FBG is hereby revoked!
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Overall, it is pretty bad. Bush and McGahee are not bad, especially considering it was a keeper so I am sure LT and a couple others werent available at all. Not the most exciting start, but both are about where there should be value wise.Now, Pennington as the only QB? Disaster.Housh is a low end #1 for many (I see him as a good #2 personally). CJ2 has question marks as a rookie and Galloway is solid but not spectacular. A great 3rd WR if say Housh were #2 and a true stud was at the top.Gates is good. You have that going for you. Seriously, pray KJ not only comes back, but comes back 100% and has 2-3 really good games before getting hurt again so you can trade him for a top WW. Then hope Norwood takes off so you can trade for a QB.
 
I have found that many people get wrapped up with getting perceived value than gauging the flow of their draft as it unfolds. Generally speaking, I try to look at positions from the perspective of "which player is my lowest rated player at position X and still feel comfortable with him as my starter".

This line of thought is most easily used at QB. For example, I am putting more of an emphasis on making sure I land a QB that I have in my top 10 this year than any previous year. Fortunately, there are some guys being drafted ahead of the guys in my top 10, so there is still the chance for value. I don't want my fantasy team to be reliant on a combination of Brett Favre and Jake Delhomme this year. That said, I am aware that I may have to pull the trigger on a QB a little earlier than I normally would.

 
Kub said:
I have found that many people get wrapped up with getting perceived value than gauging the flow of their draft as it unfolds. Generally speaking, I try to look at positions from the perspective of "which player is my lowest rated player at position X and still feel comfortable with him as my starter". This line of thought is most easily used at QB. For example, I am putting more of an emphasis on making sure I land a QB that I have in my top 10 this year than any previous year. Fortunately, there are some guys being drafted ahead of the guys in my top 10, so there is still the chance for value. I don't want my fantasy team to be reliant on a combination of Brett Favre and Jake Delhomme this year. That said, I am aware that I may have to pull the trigger on a QB a little earlier than I normally would.
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Good point here. You need to follow the pace of the specific draft in which you are currently engaged. If QBs are all going way too high, that doesnt mean you need to let go of real value instead of grabbing Romo in the 2nd or 3rd, but you may need to then take a QB in the 5th or 6th rather than the 8th or 9th as planned - even if you have to pass up SOME "value" for it. What good is value when it is all on your bench and the result is a 2nd or 3rd QB is your starter? (And I am someone that does usually draft for depth even though it may initially put some crink in my starters).So yes, look for value, but not at the expense of being able to field a top team every week.
 
Pittsburgh United said:
King of the Wolfies said:
When the guppies pulled out the knives and forks, I guess you didn't know that shark was on the menu. That's a tough $500 lesson you just learned.
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Is there even such a thing as a $500 league stocked with guppies? Those two don't seem to go together. I find that part of the story hard to believe.
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Man, I'm not coming on here trying to lie. just being as honest as possible because i think it is therapeutic when you feel as crappy as i do about taking a "bad beat" so to speak.I thought there were a lot of leagues with $400, $500, $750 entry fees, etc.my other two are with HS and college friends and we have always just done $100.
 
aldelgreco said:
Pittsburgh United said:
King of the Wolfies said:
When the guppies pulled out the knives and forks, I guess you didn't know that shark was on the menu. That's a tough $500 lesson you just learned.
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Is there even such a thing as a $500 league stocked with guppies? Those two don't seem to go together. I find that part of the story hard to believe.
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Man, I'm not coming on here trying to lie. just being as honest as possible because i think it is therapeutic when you feel as crappy as i do about taking a "bad beat" so to speak.I thought there were a lot of leagues with $400, $500, $750 entry fees, etc.my other two are with HS and college friends and we have always just done $100.
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OK. I just find it hard to believe that anyone would shell out $500 for a fantasy draft when they don't know much about fantasy football. I'm talking about the other people you labeled "guppies." Something tells me, like others said above, those other coaches aren't quite the guppies you thought they were.
 
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