I say Meachem has turned the corner (3 Viewers)

[maccabees]

Yeah,yeah I know he had a good camp last year...but not like this year. Meachem is having a very good camp.His 1st yr. was a wash and to me he wasn't a true 2nd yr. WR. he knew the offense but still didn't run good pass patterens.Since training camp started,everyday there has been nothing but good news coming out on Machem.

Just a little from training camp

On the other hand, the offense stood out during team. First, Brees hit WR Robert Meachem in front of S Darren Sharper for a touchdown.

The play of the day was a flea-flicker from QB Drew Brees to WR Robert Meachem. Brees handed off to RB Lynell Hamilton, who pitched back to Brees, who threw to Meachem. Brees caught the ball in between two defenders, but the closest was CB Randall Gay

During pass 7-on-7 early, WR Robert Meachem made a nice catch in front of CB Jason David that grabbed several ooh's and ah's from the overflow crowd.

Today

The biggest play in team drills came when Brees hooked up with receiver Robert Meachem on a deep play-action pass that would have gone for about 70 yards, depending on whether cornerback Leigh Torrence would have made the tackle in a live situation.

I go to N.O. blogs and newspapers daily and IMO if you can get him late I think you'll be pleased with the results.

http://www.beloblog.com/WWLTV_Blogs/eyeonthesaints/

http://www.nola.com/saints/

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

I could be way off on him, but I'm still not buying it. I haven't seen a whole lot on the field that proves he has indeed turned the corner. I know we always have to be forward looking to grab those that are 'next', but I'm just not sold.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Me too!

~no, no...put yer wallet away mac, your money's no good here. I'll get the next round.

 

[Biabreakable]

The play of the day was a flea-flicker from QB Drew Brees to WR Robert Meachem. Brees handed off to RB Lynell Hamilton, who pitched back to Brees, who threw to Meachem. Brees caught the ball in between two defenders, but the closest was CB Randall Gay

Was there a cornerback blitz? Or was Gay just crashing in to get Hamilton?Thanks for the links.

 

[mcintyre1]

I'm hopeful, but I was hopeful last year, so until the season starts and he's got the #3 spot locked up, I'm tempering my enthusiasm.

 

[maccabees]

I'm not offering money and I dont get into the back and forth with anyone,I'm just giving information.The info

says Meachem has turned the corner and is being targeted by the QB often.I myself didn't think this guy was

ready when he came out,I didn't jump on the bandwagon.He was to young,wasn't there mentally or physically.

IMO Meachem is ready.

 

[Biabreakable]

I'm not offering money and I dont get into the back and forth with anyone,I'm just giving information.The info says Meachem has turned the corner and is being targeted by the QB often.I myself didn't think this guy wasready when he came out,I didn't jump on the bandwagon.He was to young,wasn't there mentally or physically.IMO Meachem is ready.

Thanks for the info. And your opinion.I am assuming that whoever said Brees caught that pass above just made a typo? I am a master of them and bad spelling.But since it was a flea flicker Brees also had to catch the ball. So maybe it wasn't?Just trying to understand that bit of the previous post and having a little fun at the same time.

 

[maccabees]

Lol,not sure.I think Brees caught the pitch from Hamilton between 2 defenders

 

[moderated]

he isn't a complete WR and never has been.

He can catch an occasional long pass but he isn't the kind of guy who is going to be a short/intermediate threat. in other words he'll never get a lot of targets.

Sure an occasional big game, but will never be a reliable FF WR.

 

[QUEZILLA]

he isn't a complete WR and never has been.He can catch an occasional long pass but he isn't the kind of guy who is going to be a short/intermediate threat. in other words he'll never get a lot of targets.Sure an occasional big game, but will never be a reliable FF WR.

Sometimes people are just looking for a sleeper to add for a bye week or something.

 

[maccabees]

(KFFL) Brett Martel, of The Associated Press, reports New Orleans Saints WR Robert Meachem has been working with the first-team offense in training camp. Meachem is also gaining confidence as he enters his third season. Meachem said, "This year they're going to get to see a first-round draft pick. The last two years, that's been somebody else." Wide receivers coach Curtis Johnson said, "I'm seeing him run now. Before, he was measuring his steps and thinking too much. Now he's starting to play and react and - wow - he's looking pretty good."

 

[moderated]

he isn't a complete WR and never has been.He can catch an occasional long pass but he isn't the kind of guy who is going to be a short/intermediate threat. in other words he'll never get a lot of targets.Sure an occasional big game, but will never be a reliable FF WR.

Sometimes people are just looking for a sleeper to add for a bye week or something.

he's fine for that, but not as a guy that will ever be an every week FF starter.

 

[maccabees]

A little more info on Meachem that came out today

(Rotoworld) Robert Meachem has been running with the first-team offense while Lance Moore (shoulder) remains limited early in camp. Analysis: Most accounts have Meachem as the most impressive player in camp, and he's clearly outplaying Devery Henderson. "As far as talent goes, the sky's the limit for him," said Marques Colston. "He can run all the routes, make all the plays." He's pushing hard for the No. 3 job.

 

[saintfool]

i think he has tremendous value. brees is pretty pragmatic as a QB. he's made colston, moore and others viable FF players. meachem just needs to move ahead of henderson, i think, to be a viable FF consideration. it will be interesting to see how he performs in the preseason games because he's got a shot at starting with moore moving in the slot. he's not going to lead the league in receptions but can score you points in yardage and td leagues. he still has colston, bush, moore and shockey to fight for brees' attention.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

he just seems like one of those guys that performs when it doesn't really matter....meaning everything but GAMEDAY

 

[kremenull]

he isn't a complete WR and never has been.He can catch an occasional long pass but he isn't the kind of guy who is going to be a short/intermediate threat. in other words he'll never get a lot of targets.Sure an occasional big game, but will never be a reliable FF WR.

When you're talking about very talented guys, use of the word 'never' is NEVER a good idea..........

 

[mozzy84]

meachem have a chance to start along side Colston?

Is it still henderson with moore in the slot as of now?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I think I read something about him possibly returning kicks.

 

[LHUCKS]

drafted him in ultimate survivor...late.

 

[tim_whatley]

Looks like a lot of Colston owners in this thread.

 

[gn2056]

Looks like a lot of Colston owners in this thread.

yeah i guess its time to cut colston and Moore and make room for Meachum, even if hes turned a corner how many guys can catch touchdowns on this team, I am assuming Colston will stay healthy. I dont see this dude outproducing Moore or Colston, just because I dont think he will get the opportunity oh yeah and those guys are way better.

 

[gn2056]

i wasted my worthless receiver pick on percey harvin this year, had Meachum last time.

 

[tim_whatley]

I dont see this dude outproducing Moore or Colston

I agree.But that is an offense that likes to spread the ball around, and we are talking about a first round pick. I don't own either Colston or Meachem, but I think Meachem's consideration is quite valid, certainly past the point where it can be easily dissmissed with statements like: "he just seems like one of those guys that performs when it doesn't really matter."

 

[LHUCKS]

I dont see this dude outproducing Moore or Colston, just because I dont think he will get the opportunity oh yeah and those guys are way better.

Meachem has twice the upside that Moore does.

 

[az_prof]

I dont see this dude outproducing Moore or Colston, just because I dont think he will get the opportunity oh yeah and those guys are way better.

Meachem has twice the upside that Moore does.

I agree with this. People don't want to hear it because they believe what they have seen but he has the physical abilities that Moore doesn't. Moreover, neither Moore nor Colston has shown me that they can stay healthy. That means opportunity.

 

[duece2626]

I dont see this dude outproducing Moore or Colston, just because I dont think he will get the opportunity oh yeah and those guys are way better.

Meachem has twice the upside that Moore does.

 

[Traders2001]

I dont see this dude outproducing Moore or Colston, just because I dont think he will get the opportunity oh yeah and those guys are way better.

Meachem has twice the upside that Moore does.

Of course . Like David Terrell , Dwayne Jarrett etc etc.He had a great training camp but did nt translate into pre season games . He has 27 yards receiving in two games against first team defense.

 

[Franknbeans]

I'm not offering money and I dont get into the back and forth with anyone,I'm just giving information.The info says Meachem has turned the corner and is being targeted by the QB often.I myself didn't think this guy wasready when he came out,I didn't jump on the bandwagon.He was to young,wasn't there mentally or physically.IMO Meachem is ready.

The one thing that I read from some of the coaches that encouraged me about Meachem is that they said he seems to be just playing this year and not thinking as much. Basically, he's reacting and letting his naturally ability take over and didn't his ability get him drafted in the 1st round? Given that the Saints passing offense is one of the best in the league, I think he is a safe gamble to take in the later rounds of any draft.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

I'll be happy to take him....in round 19 or 20.

 

[Dreamer]

Looks like a lot of Colston owners in this thread.

I am assuming Colston will stay healthy.

I don't think he's healthy now.

 

[sho nuff]

I dont see this dude outproducing Moore or Colston, just because I dont think he will get the opportunity oh yeah and those guys are way better.

Meachem has twice the upside that Moore does.

Im looking at my league's scoring rules and can't find any points for upside.How many do you get?

 

[Haberdasher]

Looks like a lot of Colston owners in this thread.

I am assuming Colston will stay healthy.

I don't think he's healthy now.

Did you see him in the Texans game? He looked fantastic.

 

[otis68]

I dont see this dude outproducing Moore or Colston, just because I dont think he will get the opportunity oh yeah and those guys are way better.

Meachem has twice the upside that Moore does.

Sadly, he has half the work ethic.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

with Colston having microfx surgery, there is a chance he reinjures that knee and then Meacham MAY become the #1 WR there.

 

[Patoons]

with Colston having microfx surgery, there is a chance he reinjures that knee and then Meacham MAY become the #1 WR there.

Colston hasn't struggled at all with the knee and looks to be back. Microfracture surgery isn't the end of the world short term. See my article on it: http://subscribers.footballguys.com/2009/09colstoninjury.phpI've been reading a number of places that Meachem looks to have "gotten it" this offseason. Brees is saying that he looks like he's turned the corner, as it Mortensen and some other former NFL scouts. He's a nice sleeper, especially with Moore not yet fully back from shoulder surgery.

 

[Haberdasher]

I dont see this dude outproducing Moore or Colston, just because I dont think he will get the opportunity oh yeah and those guys are way better.

Meachem has twice the upside that Moore does.

Sadly, he has half the work ethic.

What are your reasons for saying that? IMO, it's Meachem's injuries and inexperience that have kept him out. Remember he came out as a junior and had to have knee surgery his rookie year. Up until now, he has simply been buried on the depth chart, but IMO work ethic doesn't come into play here.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

with Colston having microfx surgery, there is a chance he reinjures that knee and then Meacham MAY become the #1 WR there.

Colston hasn't struggled at all with the knee and looks to be back. Microfracture surgery isn't the end of the world short term. See my article on it: http://subscribers.footballguys.com/2009/09colstoninjury.phpI've been reading a number of places that Meachem looks to have "gotten it" this offseason. Brees is saying that he looks like he's turned the corner, as it Mortensen and some other former NFL scouts. He's a nice sleeper, especially with Moore not yet fully back from shoulder surgery.

Fair enough, except how is he a "sleeper"? Dude is going top 10-15 in most drafts.

 

[LHUCKS]

So to summarize

1) Meachem looking great in preseason

2) Everybody that matters saying he has turned the corner

3) Moore is injured, Henderson is injured and Colston always gets injured

4) Brees coming off a 5000 yard season

5) A lot of "sharks" refusing to acknowledge he is a sleeper candidate

ok

 

[Phurfur]

I dont see this dude outproducing Moore or Colston, just because I dont think he will get the opportunity oh yeah and those guys are way better.

Meachem has twice the upside that Moore does.

Moore had 928 yds last year, assuming that is his upside it would put Meachem at 1856 yds.

 

[LHUCKS]

I dont see this dude outproducing Moore or Colston, just because I dont think he will get the opportunity oh yeah and those guys are way better.

Meachem has twice the upside that Moore does.

Moore had 928 yds last year, assuming that is his upside it would put Meachem at 1856 yds.

Clearly not meant to be interpreted literally.

 

[Phurfur]

I dont see this dude outproducing Moore or Colston, just because I dont think he will get the opportunity oh yeah and those guys are way better.

Meachem has twice the upside that Moore does.

Moore had 928 yds last year, assuming that is his upside it would put Meachem at 1856 yds.

Clearly not meant to be interpreted literally.

How else are we suppose to take it? Why couldn't you say he has "MORE" upside if that is what you meant?

 

[LHUCKS]

I dont see this dude outproducing Moore or Colston, just because I dont think he will get the opportunity oh yeah and those guys are way better.

Meachem has twice the upside that Moore does.

Moore had 928 yds last year, assuming that is his upside it would put Meachem at 1856 yds.

Clearly not meant to be interpreted literally.

How else are we suppose to take it? Why couldn't you say he has "MORE" upside if that is what you meant?

Sure I could have, but I didn't want to...panache my friend.Just for you, "Meachem has significantly more upside than Lance Moore"

 

[valhallan]

A guy picked in the first round by the current regime with an offense that threw over 600 times each of the last years with an incredibly realistic chance to be the #2 WR behind and injury prone #1. Yeah, not worth taking a chance on someone like that..

 

[Chaka]

So to summarize

1) Meachem looking great in preseason

2) Everybody that matters saying he has turned the corner

3) Moore is injured, Henderson is injured and Colston always gets injured

4) Brees coming off a 5000 yard season

5) A lot of "sharks" refusing to acknowledge he is a sleeper candidate

ok

1) Great?2) Are these the quotes you are talking about? Because other than beat writer speculation they are the only comments of substance on Meachem's player page at FBG. They're nice quote but hardly a slam dunk endorsement.

Aug 25th - Robert Meachem will return kicks in the team's upcoming preseason game, according to head coach Sean Payton.

Aug 6th - Brett Martel, from the Associated Press reports with receiver Lance Moore limited while recovering from offseason shoulder surgery, Robert Meachem has been practicing with the first team early in training camp and performing as if he belongs. During 11-on-11 drills, Drew Brees has started going to him more on deep balls and in the red zone. On several occasions, the result has been Meachem scoring a touchdown. "He's coming around," Brees said. "I'm really happy for him. I think he has worked extremely hard and we just have to keep finding the right opportunities for him."

Aug 1st - Head coach Sean Payton said Meachem is in shape and finally familiar with the team's offensive scheme.

3) I am not concerned about Moore's injury

Aug 16 - The New Orleans Times-Picayune is reporting Saints wide receiver Lance Moore moved one step closer to regaining his starting job when Coach Sean Payton removed the player's red jersey Sunday which has made him off limits to the defense through the first 17 days of training camp.

4) Yes he is and he did it without having a 1,000 receiver. (928 yards and 10 TDs were the team highs both held by Lance Moore).5) Sure he's a sleeper, so are Troy Williamson and Limas Sweed. Lots of guys are sleepers, by the end of the year most of them will still be sleeping.

 

[ATC1]

Pay close attention this preseaon game against OAK. L. Moore will be playing his first snaps of the preseason. If Meachum is still in the game and getting the looks, I'm taking Meachum over Moore for where they are taken in drafts.

 

[mcintyre1]

2) Are these the quotes you are talking about? Because other than beat writer speculation they are the only comments of substance on Meachem's player page at FBG. They're nice quote but hardly a slam dunk endorsement.

Try Rotoworld:"Most accounts have Meachem as the most impressive player in camp, and he's clearly outplaying Devery Henderson. "As far as talent goes, the sky's the limit for him," said Marques Colston. "He can run all the routes, make all the plays.""Drew Brees is expecting "big things" from WR Robert Meachem this season.'He's somewhat of our big play guy, but ... I feel that he's starting to move towards more of an every-down guy," Brees observed. "He's getting to the point where he's a complete receiver.'"

 

[LHUCKS]

2) Are these the quotes you are talking about? Because other than beat writer speculation they are the only comments of substance on Meachem's player page at FBG. They're nice quote but hardly a slam dunk endorsement.

Try Rotoworld:"Most accounts have Meachem as the most impressive player in camp, and he's clearly outplaying Devery Henderson. "As far as talent goes, the sky's the limit for him," said Marques Colston. "He can run all the routes, make all the plays.""Drew Brees is expecting "big things" from WR Robert Meachem this season.'He's somewhat of our big play guy, but ... I feel that he's starting to move towards more of an every-down guy," Brees observed. "He's getting to the point where he's a complete receiver.'"

Thanks...I didn't feel like responding. Try to keep up Chaka.

 

[Biabreakable]

What a toolbox.

 

[Chaka]

2) Are these the quotes you are talking about? Because other than beat writer speculation they are the only comments of substance on Meachem's player page at FBG. They're nice quote but hardly a slam dunk endorsement.

Try Rotoworld:"Most accounts have Meachem as the most impressive player in camp, and he's clearly outplaying Devery Henderson. "As far as talent goes, the sky's the limit for him," said Marques Colston. "He can run all the routes, make all the plays.""Drew Brees is expecting "big things" from WR Robert Meachem this season.'He's somewhat of our big play guy, but ... I feel that he's starting to move towards more of an every-down guy," Brees observed. "He's getting to the point where he's a complete receiver.'"

Why would I try Rotoworld when I can use FBG? All the info anyone needs ends up here.Do these quotes have dates?

 

[cmv5]

I dont see this dude outproducing Moore or Colston, just because I dont think he will get the opportunity oh yeah and those guys are way better.

Meachem has twice the upside that Moore does.

Moore had 928 yds last year, assuming that is his upside it would put Meachem at 1856 yds.

Clearly not meant to be interpreted literally.

How else are we suppose to take it? Why couldn't you say he has "MORE" upside if that is what you meant?

Are you sincerely saying that you thought he meant Meachem was going to get over 1800 yards this year? That is what kills this place, people get so caught up in semantics instead of just trying to have a quality conversation on a player. Anytime you are getting compliments from Colston and Brees it is going to get my attention. Like LHUCKS mentioned, 5000 yards has to go somewhere.