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I was accused of having a drinking problem (1 Viewer)

Is a tall boy a 16-ounce can?
I drink 22 ouncers
So you drank the equivalent of eleven 12-ounce beers in an hour? Did you take time to breathe?
I drank 3 which equals a little less than a 6 packI usually polish off 3-4 in an hour
Maybe I missed this part, and I'm sorry if I'm asking a question a second time: outside of practice twice a week, how much do you drink?
I dont drink outside practice
So why do you drink at practice? And do you see your bandmates outside or practice?
Because I enjoy it. Its my only funI never see these guys outside practice
So your only fun is when you're drinking?
I meant my only fun time during the week is practice
 
Is a tall boy a 16-ounce can?
I drink 22 ouncers
So you drank the equivalent of eleven 12-ounce beers in an hour? Did you take time to breathe?
I drank 3 which equals a little less than a 6 packI usually polish off 3-4 in an hour
Maybe I missed this part, and I'm sorry if I'm asking a question a second time: outside of practice twice a week, how much do you drink?
I dont drink outside practice
So why do you drink at practice? And do you see your bandmates outside or practice?
Because I enjoy it. Its my only funI never see these guys outside practice
So the only time these guys see you, you're pounding beers.I would say no, you don't have a drinking problem. However, you can't blame them for saying/thinking that. Everytime they see you, you're pounding beers.

That's my take.
I know I dont but these guys have a skewed view because one is an alcoholic and the rest dont drink
Which is essentially what I just said...

 
To answer everyones questions.

3 22 ouncers = a 6 pack

I was kicked out a year ago because I lied about where I was for 3 weeks

I am the most prepared one in the band to play shows. Most of the time I find practice a little boring because im ready for shows
Bull####! Again, according to you:


Bassist-" you never used to drink before. The other day we practiced at 10 am and you drank a whole 6-pack before 11"

Me- "first, im 215 pounds, a 6-pack barely gets me buzzed. Second, time of day is irrelevant. Third, I always do a good job. Practice is the only time I have fun. Im 30 and ill drink beer if I want to"

The bassist didn't say anything about a 3 pack of tall boys and neither did you. You said six pack
 
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Periodic Drinking

Periodic drinking is defined as alcohol abuse that occurs in periodic intervals rather than on a regular basis. For example, a periodic drinker may not drink during the work week, but may drink abusively over the weekend.

Contrary to popular opinion, periodic drinking does not exclude the drinker from developing problems of alcohol abuse or alcohol dependence (alcoholism).Binge drinking is just one form of periodic drinking. Periodic drinking can take the form of controlled drinking for short periods, rather than intense drinking all at once, such as drinking slowly and steadily over a weekend.

Periodic drinking is often cited by problem drinkers and alcoholics as evidence that they still have control over their drinking. They believe that if they can stop or regulate their drinking for any period of time, that this means they have control. On deeper examination, however, this defense often breaks down. One way to test if a periodic drinker has reached the stage of alcohol abuse or alcohol dependence is to have them attempt to stop drinking for an extended period.

If a periodic drinker has difficulty not drinking for a longer period than they are used to, this may indicate a problem of alcohol abuse or alcohol dependence.The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM IV) of the American Psychiatric Association defines Alcohol Abuse as "the recurring use of alcoholic beverages despite negative consequences." This definition can be applied just as easily to periodic drinkers.

If a period drinker is experiencing negative consequences due to drinking and is continuing to drink - even periodically - then by definition they have a drinking problem.
http://www.summitmalibu.com/addiction-and-abuse/alcoholism-and-alcohol-abuse/periodic-drinking/
 
Is a tall boy a 16-ounce can?
I drink 22 ouncers
So you drank the equivalent of eleven 12-ounce beers in an hour? Did you take time to breathe?
I drank 3 which equals a little less than a 6 packI usually polish off 3-4 in an hour
Maybe I missed this part, and I'm sorry if I'm asking a question a second time: outside of practice twice a week, how much do you drink?
I dont drink outside practice
So why do you drink at practice? And do you see your bandmates outside or practice?
Because I enjoy it. Its my only funI never see these guys outside practice
So the only time these guys see you, you're pounding beers.I would say no, you don't have a drinking problem. However, you can't blame them for saying/thinking that. Everytime they see you, you're pounding beers.

That's my take.
I know I dont but these guys have a skewed view because one is an alcoholic and the rest dont drink
And you're pounding beers at ten AM whenever you see them.

 
To answer everyones questions.

3 22 ouncers = a 6 pack

I was kicked out a year ago because I lied about where I was for 3 weeks

I am the most prepared one in the band to play shows. Most of the time I find practice a little boring because im ready for shows
Bull####! Again, according to you:Bassist-" you never used to drink before. The other day we practiced at 10 am and you drank a whole 6-pack before 11"

Me- "first, im 215 pounds, a 6-pack barely gets me buzzed. Second, time of day is irrelevant. Third, I always do a good job. Practice is the only time I have fun. Im 30 and ill drink beer if I want to"
BS about what?He was referring to the combined ounces

A 6 pack= 72 oz

3 tall boys= 66 oz

 
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Is a tall boy a 16-ounce can?
I drink 22 ouncers
So you drank the equivalent of eleven 12-ounce beers in an hour? Did you take time to breathe?
I drank 3 which equals a little less than a 6 packI usually polish off 3-4 in an hour
Maybe I missed this part, and I'm sorry if I'm asking a question a second time: outside of practice twice a week, how much do you drink?
I dont drink outside practice
So why do you drink at practice? And do you see your bandmates outside or practice?
Because I enjoy it. Its my only funI never see these guys outside practice
So your only fun is when you're drinking?
I meant my only fun time during the week is practice
For which you have to drink?

 
Is a tall boy a 16-ounce can?
I drink 22 ouncers
So you drank the equivalent of eleven 12-ounce beers in an hour? Did you take time to breathe?
I drank 3 which equals a little less than a 6 packI usually polish off 3-4 in an hour
Maybe I missed this part, and I'm sorry if I'm asking a question a second time: outside of practice twice a week, how much do you drink?
I dont drink outside practice
So why do you drink at practice? And do you see your bandmates outside or practice?
Because I enjoy it. Its my only funI never see these guys outside practice
So the only time these guys see you, you're pounding beers.I would say no, you don't have a drinking problem. However, you can't blame them for saying/thinking that. Everytime they see you, you're pounding beers.

That's my take.
I know I dont but these guys have a skewed view because one is an alcoholic and the rest dont drink
And you're pounding beers at ten AM whenever you see them.
No thst was our 1 morning practice because of scheduling issues. Practice is always 8pm-10pm

The morning practice is what prompted the accusation

 
Is a tall boy a 16-ounce can?
I drink 22 ouncers
So you drank the equivalent of eleven 12-ounce beers in an hour? Did you take time to breathe?
I drank 3 which equals a little less than a 6 packI usually polish off 3-4 in an hour
Maybe I missed this part, and I'm sorry if I'm asking a question a second time: outside of practice twice a week, how much do you drink?
I dont drink outside practice
So why do you drink at practice? And do you see your bandmates outside or practice?
Because I enjoy it. Its my only funI never see these guys outside practice
So your only fun is when you're drinking?
I meant my only fun time during the week is practice
For which you have to drink?
No I dont have to

 
To answer everyones questions.

3 22 ouncers = a 6 pack

I was kicked out a year ago because I lied about where I was for 3 weeks

I am the most prepared one in the band to play shows. Most of the time I find practice a little boring because im ready for shows
Bull####! Again, according to you:Bassist-" you never used to drink before. The other day we practiced at 10 am and you drank a whole 6-pack before 11"

Me- "first, im 215 pounds, a 6-pack barely gets me buzzed. Second, time of day is irrelevant. Third, I always do a good job. Practice is the only time I have fun. Im 30 and ill drink beer if I want to"
BS about what?He was referring to the combined ounces

A 6 pack= 72 oz

3 tall boys= 66 oz
This is almost comical

According to you he said that you had practice at 10 am and you drank a six pack before 11 am. Do not try and tell us that he was referring to combined ounces.

 
drank 3 which equals a little less than a 6 pack

I usually polish off 3-4 in an hour
Maybe I missed this part, and I'm sorry if I'm asking a question a second time: outside of practice twice a week, how much do you drink?
I dont drink outside practice
So why do you drink at practice? And do you see your bandmates outside or practice?
Because I enjoy it. Its my only funI never see these guys outside practice
So your only fun is when you're drinking?
I meant my only fun time during the week is practice
For which you have to drink?
No I dont have to
But you won't do it without drinking...
 
Me- "first, im 215 pounds, a 6-pack barely gets me buzzed. Second, time of day is irrelevant. Third, I always do a good job. Practice is the only time I have fun. Im 30 and ill drink beer if I want to"

Me- "two nights a week isnt frequent. Unless drinking affects my ability to perform, which it wont, you have no point"

Me- " so because you are an alcoholic you think everyone who has a drink is a potential alcoholic? Im drinking bud light not shooting china white" then I chugged the rest of my beer

Me- "You are the one with the problem, not me"

Now I feel like I have to continue to drink at every practice and show just to prove that I wont let anyone tell me what to do.
And here I thought denial was a river in Africa.

Maybe your beers during rehearsal aren't an issue, but you sure come off as an unpleasant person. :shrug:

 
Just because I always drink during a certain event doesnt mean I have to

I drink every time I go to a bar too, which is like 3 times a year if even

 
Me- "first, im 215 pounds, a 6-pack barely gets me buzzed. Second, time of day is irrelevant. Third, I always do a good job. Practice is the only time I have fun. Im 30 and ill drink beer if I want to"

Me- "two nights a week isnt frequent. Unless drinking affects my ability to perform, which it wont, you have no point"

Me- " so because you are an alcoholic you think everyone who has a drink is a potential alcoholic? Im drinking bud light not shooting china white" then I chugged the rest of my beer

Me- "You are the one with the problem, not me"

Now I feel like I have to continue to drink at every practice and show just to prove that I wont let anyone tell me what to do.
And here I thought denial was a river in Africa.

Maybe your beers during rehearsal aren't an issue, but you sure come off as an unpleasant person. :shrug:
Im always pleasant. This was the only time they got me angry enough to get an attitude

 
drank 3 which equals a little less than a 6 pack

I usually polish off 3-4 in an hour
Maybe I missed this part, and I'm sorry if I'm asking a question a second time: outside of practice twice a week, how much do you drink?
I dont drink outside practice
So why do you drink at practice? And do you see your bandmates outside or practice?
Because I enjoy it. Its my only funI never see these guys outside practice
So your only fun is when you're drinking?
I meant my only fun time during the week is practice
For which you have to drink?
No I dont have to
But you won't do it without drinking...
I never drank at practice a year ago. It makes no difference on my performance either way
 
Me- "first, im 215 pounds, a 6-pack barely gets me buzzed. Second, time of day is irrelevant. Third, I always do a good job. Practice is the only time I have fun. Im 30 and ill drink beer if I want to"

Me- "two nights a week isnt frequent. Unless drinking affects my ability to perform, which it wont, you have no point"

Me- " so because you are an alcoholic you think everyone who has a drink is a potential alcoholic? Im drinking bud light not shooting china white" then I chugged the rest of my beer

Me- "You are the one with the problem, not me"

Now I feel like I have to continue to drink at every practice and show just to prove that I wont let anyone tell me what to do.
And here I thought denial was a river in Africa.

Maybe your beers during rehearsal aren't an issue, but you sure come off as an unpleasant person. :shrug:
Im always pleasant. This was the only time they got me angry enough to get an attitude
You got angry over that short conversation? What made you so angry? Was it a math problem where x = tall boys and y = ounces and you have to find z which = six packs of regular longnecks

 
For which you have to drink?
No I dont have to
Cool. Then you should have no problem in doing the next practice sober. Do that and then get back to us.
I cant now because I dont want them to think they can tell me what to do. I dont want to practice sober either

Im just going to continue to do an excellent job and everyone who has a problem can F off
:lmao:

No signs of denial or a problem whatsoever!

 
I know where you're coming from DSP. When I play golf, I like to put down a 6-pack down. I'm out with my buddies and we're having fun. But if my buddies stopped drinking and having fun while golfing, I'd find some new golf partners.

 
Theres no problem. Ill have a few beers if I want to.

I get pissed when people try to tell me what to do, especially when its not affecting my ability

 
I know where you're coming from DSP. When I play golf, I like to put down a 6-pack down. I'm out with my buddies and we're having fun. But if my buddies stopped drinking and having fun while golfing, I'd find some new golf partners.
Thats not an option for me yet

 
I know where you're coming from DSP. When I play golf, I like to put down a 6-pack down. I'm out with my buddies and we're having fun. But if my buddies stopped drinking and having fun while golfing, I'd find some new golf partners.
Thats not an option for me yet
You're one of the best black metal vocalists in the world. Any band would be lucky to have you. You kicked so much ### you made the bass player mad! Surely you can find a new gig or go solo and really make these guys wish they'd never question you putting down a 6 pack in one hour at 10am.

 
Wanting a drink is very different from needing a drink.

Every time I see my girl we have sex because we want to, are we sex addicts because we do it every time?

 
I know where you're coming from DSP. When I play golf, I like to put down a 6-pack down. I'm out with my buddies and we're having fun. But if my buddies stopped drinking and having fun while golfing, I'd find some new golf partners.
Thats not an option for me yet
You're one of the best black metal vocalists in the world. Any band would be lucky to have you. You kicked so much ### you made the bass player mad! Surely you can find a new gig or go solo and really make these guys wish they'd never question you putting down a 6 pack in one hour at 10am.
If this was europe then you would be right. I have to get some recognition here first before considering other options

 
Theres no problem. Ill have a few beers if I want to.

I get pissed when people try to tell me what to do, especially when its not affecting my ability
Did they tell you to stop?

All your answers are classic denial patterns starting with "I'm drinking Bud Light, not doing blow". Not sure what oing blow has to do with a drinking problem, but "it's just beer" doesn't mean anything. What type of alcohol has nothing to do whatsoever with whethher or not there's a problem.

I'm not saying you do, I have no idea. But if this thread was my only resource and I had to make a decision, I would say most definitely yes.

 
Last week my band accused me of having a drinking problem. We practice twice a week for 2 hours each time. I always drink 3-4 tall boys, usually bud light with lime because it soithes ny throat. Nobody else in the band drinks. My rythm guitarist smokes pot but not at practice.

We may play a show at a festival near albany next month. I asked if there would be alcohol abd my bass player said there wasnt and that he is worried I have a drinking problem. He is an alcoholic who has been sober for 15 years..

They fired me lasy year because I wasnt honest about being in rehab before and living in a halfway house. They asked me back a few months ago, as I knew they would, because im one of the best black metal vocalists in the world let alone locally so they cant replace me. We jammed again last night and the conversation went like this...

Bassist-" you never used to drink before. The other day we practiced at 10 am and you drank a whole 6-pack before 11"

Me- "first, im 215 pounds, a 6-pack barely gets me buzzed. Second, time of day is irrelevant. Third, I always do a good job. Practice is the only time I have fun. Im 30 and ill drink beer if I want to"

Bassist- "you are drinking too frequently"

Me- "two nights a week isnt frequent. Unless drinking affects my ability to perform, which it wont, you have no point"

Lead guitar- "ok fine. If it becomes a problem then we will bring it up"

Bassist- "not if......when"

Me- " so because you are an alcoholic you think everyone who has a drink is a potential alcoholic? Im drinking bud light not shooting china white" then I chugged the rest of my beer

Bassist- "your responses are predictable"

Rythm guitar- "im staying out of this"

Drummer- silent

Me- " bottom line, im good at what I do. I wont be treated like a baby. Either you deal with it or kick me out but you couldnt replace me a year ago and you cant replace me now. You are the one with the problem, not me"

Everyone goes silent. We did one more set and I kicked butt. Now my bassist wont talk to me.

Now I feel like I have to continue to drink at every practice and show just to prove that I wont let anyone tell me what to do.
Sounds like you have created the perfect recipe for a successful black metal band. Friday comes early.

 
Wanting a drink is very different from needing a drink.

Every time I see my girl we have sex because we want to, are we sex addicts because we do it every time?
:lmao:

False equivalencies and attempted semantic differentiation are also warning signs. Not every single factor indicates a problem, however you seem to have an inordinate amount of factors going against you right now.

 
I know where you're coming from DSP. When I play golf, I like to put down a 6-pack down. I'm out with my buddies and we're having fun. But if my buddies stopped drinking and having fun while golfing, I'd find some new golf partners.
Thats not an option for me yet
You're one of the best black metal vocalists in the world. Any band would be lucky to have you. You kicked so much ### you made the bass player mad! Surely you can find a new gig or go solo and really make these guys wish they'd never question you putting down a 6 pack in one hour at 10am.
If this was europe then you would be right. I have to get some recognition here first before considering other options
What is the name of your band and where are some of the places that you have performed?

 
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Wanting a drink is very different from needing a drink.

Every time I see my girl we have sex because we want to, are we sex addicts because we do it every time?
You said you got engaged on Super Bowl Sunday and admitted you got hammered as well that day.
 
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For which you have to drink?
No I dont have to
Cool. Then you should have no problem in doing the next practice sober. Do that and then get back to us.
I cant now because I dont want them to think they can tell me what to do. I dont want to practice sober either

Im just going to continue to do an excellent job and everyone who has a problem can F off
Wonderful rationalization to continue drinking, and as long as they complain about it, you will never stop because they "think they can tell me what to do."

Seriously, if you can't even go one practice without drinking, you are well past the "I can take it or leave it" stage.

 
here's a better question - when did "Black Metal" bands start composing of so many #######?

you're SUPPOSED TO BE drunk, stoned, belligerent, incoherent and oblivious to it all.

sounds like you guys only have the last 3 traits nailed down.

 
There are no factors against me. My bandmates barely know me personally and none of you here know me at all.

You can only go by the assumptions you make from the conversation. Right or wrong is irrelevant because you dont know enough about me.

Here are the facts. I only drink 66-88 ounces of beer twice a week. When, where or why I do doesnt matter. That is not enough beer or frequency to be a problem

 
here's a better question - when did "Black Metal" bands start composing of so many #######?

you're SUPPOSED TO BE drunk, stoned, belligerent, incoherent and oblivious to it all.

sounds like you guys only have the last 3 traits nailed down.
Thats also the problem. Im the frontman and I have to be even more unpredictable to make up for their lack of hardcority

 
There are no factors against me. My bandmates barely know me personally and none of you here know me at all.

You can only go by the assumptions you make from the conversation. Right or wrong is irrelevant because you dont know enough about me.

Here are the facts. I only drink 66-88 ounces of beer twice a week. When, where or why I do doesnt matter. That is not enough beer or frequency to be a problem
So what's the point of the thread? We're going off what you present in here. It doesn't paint a good picture, imo.

 
There are no factors against me. My bandmates barely know me personally and none of you here know me at all.

You can only go by the assumptions you make from the conversation. Right or wrong is irrelevant because you dont know enough about me.

Here are the facts. I only drink 66-88 ounces of beer twice a week. When, where or why I do doesnt matter. That is not enough beer or frequency to be a problem
It's easy to make assumptions about you based on what you have shared here and the fact you show little common sense. You're not a bright one.

 
Wanting a drink is very different from needing a drink.

Every time I see my girl we have sex because we want to, are we sex addicts because we do it every time?
You said you got engaged on Super Bowl Sunday and admitted you got hammered as well that day.
I drink on holidays too but those are with my family and on those days I NEED a drink

 
There are no factors against me. My bandmates barely know me personally and none of you here know me at all.

You can only go by the assumptions you make from the conversation. Right or wrong is irrelevant because you dont know enough about me.

Here are the facts. I only drink 66-88 ounces of beer twice a week. When, where or why I do doesnt matter. That is not enough beer or frequency to be a problem
So why did you come here to ask for our answers. When you don't like what we say, you turn on us.

Why did you say 66-88 ounces of beer twice a week? Why not say 132-176 ounces per week?

 
Such stupidity from some of you. Im bored of this. Ill let you guys know when we have recordings and gigs up.

Goodnight

 
You're one of the best black metal vocalists in the world, but you have nothing on YouTube? Wat?

Are there any other drinks you could drink with lime? Water, perhaps?

 

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