nysportsfan
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They are playing man, and Gonzalez Hernandez is reaping all the benefits.
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Ian Rappaport may have figured out the NE TE decoder (1 Viewer)
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Trizzler
Footballguy
Thank God I switched my mind to Daniels at the last second.The damn formula isnt working
I guess we're back to avoiding both of these guys...that is, if you survived to week 16.
shadyridr
Footballguy
nope it had nothing to do with this howeverThank God I switched my mind to Daniels at the last second.The damn formula isnt working
I guess we're back to avoiding both of these guys...that is, if you survived to week 16.
Decoder ring = broken
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
Not necessarily. If the Pack was playing man then that makes sense that it ended ip being a Hernandez night. Either we all got our analysis of the GB defense wrong or they switched it up early in the game... Probably after Gronk's 25yd catch I'm guessing. Let's turn our attention to Buffalo now - zone or man coverage there next week?
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Starting Gronk over Hernandez cost me the game and a shot at the Super Bowl.
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The Jerk
Footballguy
I have no idea if Buffalo trends more toward man or zone, particularly at the goal line. I do know that in the first half of the season, Buffalo gave up 8 TDs to TEs, including three consecutive two-score games (Keller in Week 4, Lewis in Week 5, and Heap in Week 7). However, from Week 10 to Week 15, there have been no TDs to TEs.Can any Buffalo fans comment on the man vs. zone issue and/or what may have changed starting in Week 10 or slightly earlier?Thanks.
The Jerk
Footballguy
Bump seeking more opinions and information on Buffalo defense against tight ends -- if it matters, and how much it should matter -- with respect to Gronkowski vs. Hernandez.
geoff8695
Footballguy
bump b/c I know nothing about Buffalo's defense.
Now that Hernandez is going to be inactive, I'ld like to assume that Gronk will get targeted more. However, based on NE's willingness to spread the ball around I don't necessarily think Gronk will get more targets unless the gameplan already called for it. Does anyone know the Bills zone/man preferences?
Now that Hernandez is going to be inactive, I'ld like to assume that Gronk will get targeted more. However, based on NE's willingness to spread the ball around I don't necessarily think Gronk will get more targets unless the gameplan already called for it. Does anyone know the Bills zone/man preferences?
Cheesedawg
Footballguy
Very good question...decode away!
I see in the NE-Buff game from earlier in the season, Hernandez was targeted 7 times, caught 6 for 65 yds. Gronkowski was targeted 3 times, caught all three for 43 yds. Two catches were for first downs and one was for a 5 yard touchdown on 3rd and goal.
Brady looked to the TE's a lot compared to the outside receivers in that game.
edited to add the stats from the first meeting in '10.
I see in the NE-Buff game from earlier in the season, Hernandez was targeted 7 times, caught 6 for 65 yds. Gronkowski was targeted 3 times, caught all three for 43 yds. Two catches were for first downs and one was for a 5 yard touchdown on 3rd and goal.
Brady looked to the TE's a lot compared to the outside receivers in that game.
edited to add the stats from the first meeting in '10.
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Id like to revisit this old theory. I thought this was intersting from NFLN. Last game Gronk won the Battle when a team played more man, but i guess dallas and oakland did that as well. Hernandez got more targets and the late TD but they were pretty similar in yds and catches. in oakland NE just ran all over them so ill discount that plus hernandez was out. Hernandez was also out for the BUF game. So far, when both TE's are playing. Gronk seems to be a solid play against more man coverage D (against dal hern had 14 tgts but only 8 catches against that type of d). The opposite shows hernandez might be the better play. the TD's are random 50/50 to either guy at any moment. Both are good TE plays, but this week many sites including FBG likes Gronk slightly more.Anyone know what type of def NYG use more? how often they blitz, zone or man coverage?ETA flip flopped theory from last year 
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Sorry i was lookin ar the stats last week and got them mixed up. Ur right hernandez has gotten the better vs nyj
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
IMO defenses have figured out that they don't have to worry about the deep ball at all anymore when they play the Pats. So the systemic benefits of playing in the Pats' offense have diminished and players are having to do more on their own instead of taking advantage of the scheme to get open.And since Gronkowski is much better than Hernandez he's able to do that more often.
