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I'd like to propose a new Challenge System (1 Viewer)

pizzatyme

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I said on another MB this week that I'd propose each team be given 4 Challenges/Times Out per half. This way, with the ineptitude of the Officials, a team isn't penalized just because one of their challenges was wrong.

Each officiating mistake could be worse than the last, who is the coach supposed to know when to use it. "Give them all they want" as Gruden said on MNF.

I know teams would have to adjust for late game heroics inside of 6 minutes, but I believe they'd rather do that than get screwed on major calls.

I'd also add the Pass Interference calls to the reviewable calls list.

Thoughts?

 
I said on another MB this week that I'd propose each team be given 4 Challenges/Times Out per half. This way, with the ineptitude of the Officials, a team isn't penalized just because one of their challenges was wrong. Each officiating mistake could be worse than the last, who is the coach supposed to know when to use it. "Give them all they want" as Gruden said on MNF.I know teams would have to adjust for late game heroics inside of 6 minutes, but I believe they'd rather do that than get screwed on major calls.I'd also add the Pass Interference calls to the reviewable calls list.Thoughts?
Why not just give them 2 missed calls? If you challenge and you get it right then you do not lose one of your two challenges.
 
You can come up with all the ideas you want. Until the NFL makes their officials full time employees that are not old enough to remember the Titanic sinking, the officiating will continue to be a joke.

 
The more challenges, the more the game is slowed down. That's bad for football.
What's bad for football is the wrong call allowed to stand because there is no system to correct them.Plus, a team could use 3 challenges and 3 TOs in a half anyway as it is.
 
No. The current system is fine. Leave it alone and accept that things will never be perfect.

 
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I said on another MB this week that I'd propose each team be given 4 Challenges/Times Out per half. This way, with the ineptitude of the Officials, a team isn't penalized just because one of their challenges was wrong. Each officiating mistake could be worse than the last, who is the coach supposed to know when to use it. "Give them all they want" as Gruden said on MNF.I know teams would have to adjust for late game heroics inside of 6 minutes, but I believe they'd rather do that than get screwed on major calls.I'd also add the Pass Interference calls to the reviewable calls list.Thoughts?
Why not just give them 2 missed calls? If you challenge and you get it right then you do not lose one of your two challenges.
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It's getting ridiculous. Calls are being reviewed too frequently with refs 3 feet away. Something's got to give, even reviewed plays turn out with A wrong decision and result.

 
When the officials can't get the calls right even after looking at it in slow-mo, what does it even matter.

I was one of the biggest proponents for replay, but just axe it. It's annoying enough to see your team suffer from a bad call on the field. It's 10x more annoying to see them suffer from a challenge that is obvious to 99% of people out there, with the guy making the decision being part of the 1% that sees it differently.

Or, at worst, have a group of people (like 10) review the challenges and vote on it.

 
The stupidest thing is that the rules change in the last 2 minutes of each half and OT and all plays can be reviewed even if a team has no challenges left, as if a bad call in the last 2 minutes is more important than a bad call at another time.

Personally I don't like the challenge system at all. Give the booth the ability to review any play and take the coaches challenge away completely.

 
The stupidest thing is that the rules change in the last 2 minutes of each half and OT and all plays can be reviewed even if a team has no challenges left, as if a bad call in the last 2 minutes is more important than a bad call at another time.Personally I don't like the challenge system at all. Give the booth the ability to review any play and take the coaches challenge away completely.
I'd be all of that too as long as there are unlimited reviews allowed.I'm also for 1 "Super" Challenge per team/game. If that one is overturned, then immediate death to that Official! :bag:
 
Maybe they could make it that if you get a challenge right you get an extra challenge every time you are right. So if you challenge a call and win, you would then get a bonus challenge and have two challenges left instead of zero.

And if you are wrong, you would be penalized 50 yards, and if any play that involved a TD would be automatically reviewable except if it involved a gadget play so that more gadget plays would be encouraged to make the league more fun to watch.

 
I say all reviews should be called for by officials. But keep the red flags and have the coaches raise them to ask for a review. If the official agrees it's close enough to review, they will review it. They also can review it if they think it was a close play, without a coach request, just like the current 2-minute system. That way, the play doesnt get slowed down, you dont have a limit to the number of plays that can be reviewed, and the rules are consistent throughout the whole game. You also get rid of the idiotic 'call timeout so that maybe the officials will review it' in the last 2 minutes and instead you raise your red flag explicitly asking for a review (but not necessarily getting it if the ref thinks the call wasnt that close).

I'd also like to ride a unicorn.

 
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There's no limit on how many calls a ref can screw up, why limit how many times you can correct them.

I say that as long as you have a Timeout to wager, you still have a challenge.

 
I say all reviews should be called for by officials. But keep the red flags and have the coaches raise them to ask for a review. If the official agrees it's close enough to review, they will review it. That way, the play doesnt get slowed down, you dont have a limit to the number of plays that can be reviewed, and the rules are consistent throughout the whole game. You also get rid of the idiotic 'call timeout so that maybe the officials will review it' in the last 2 minutes and instead you raise your red flag explicitly asking for a review (but not necessarily getting it if the ref thinks the call wasnt that close).I'd also like to ride a unicorn.
Basically you want the coaches to raise thier hands, except with red hankies.Your plan does not add any intrigue to the game and does not reward gadget plays so I would generally be against it.
 
I lol'd at challenging Pass Interferences, as that would make it a challenge on every deep pass. What about challenging Holds as well?

 
How about no team can challenge. The NFL will hire A team of replay experts at each game, closely monitoring each play as the game goes on, each stadium will have A NFL replay Mission Control center. They can stop the game when appropriate, perhaps with A special air raid siren that is blasted throughout the stadium, much like the ones used in the Battle of Britain{WW2}

 
How about no team can challenge. The NFL will hire A team of replay experts at each game, closely monitoring each play as the game goes on, each stadium will have A NFL replay Mission Control center. They can stop the game when appropriate, perhaps with A special air raid siren that is blasted throughout the stadium, much like the ones used in the Battle of Britain{WW2}
:goodposting: There are already too many challenges because the coaches just toss their flag out there whenever they feel like it. Combine that with refs going to the replay booth more and more in the final 2 minutes (and overturning some great plays that should be TDs) and it's just turning into a mess.
 
Why not have a "review" ref up in the booth so he can be looking at every play and replay as they happen and when a play is challenged he can just call down and say play stands or turn it over. That way the other official doesn't have to hold everything up going to the booth and looking it over, you got a guy doing that all game.

I would not be opposed to more reviews, there have been a lot of missed calls this year and every year, it only sucks when it's your team getting screwed.

 
just get rid of replay review altogether. refs have 10 minutes and all kinds of technology and still blatantly screw up calls all the time.

 
use the college system. the pro refs made way too many terrible calls this weekend. whats the harm in reviewing every scoring play while the next play is getting set up? the gb/min game was a classic in refs missing call after call.

 
With the number of calls the officilas are botching, something needs to be done to allow the coaches more chances to challen...aw, who am I kidding? Lovie Smith would figure out a way to screw it up if you gave him 50. :fishing:

 
Replays are unbearable when you're at the game as it is. It completely destroys all momentum and flow of the game. It is getting to the point where when a big play happens, I'm instantly looking for either a flag or a challenge flag rather than celebrating because there is a pretty good chance it won't count for 1 reason or another. It really sucks for the fans, especially live.

Adding even more challenges, wow. Couldn't possibly disagree more.

 
The problem with allowing way more challenges is that teams that were behind could stock pile them and use them all at the end of the game as timeouts. If you give teams 4 or 5 challenges, what would the penalty be if they are already out of timeouts?

As for challenging pass interference calls and penalties in general, there are penalties somewhere on the field on every play. Teams would give up 80 yard TDs and then challenge holding, hands to the face, etc. to negate TDs. Offenses would heave the ball 60 yards and then challenge saying their receiver got bumped. IMO, that would make things way worse than they are currently.

 
Replays are unbearable when you're at the game as it is. It completely destroys all momentum and flow of the game. It is getting to the point where when a big play happens, I'm instantly looking for either a flag or a challenge flag rather than celebrating because there is a pretty good chance it won't count for 1 reason or another. It really sucks for the fans, especially live.Adding even more challenges, wow. Couldn't possibly disagree more.
:confused: I've been going to games for a long time and I-R reviews really blow. I really wouldn't mind if the NFL did away with it entirely and went back to the days of when you got a bad call you just moved on to the next play.
 
DesmondBishop said:
Why not have a "review" ref up in the booth so he can be looking at every play and replay as they happen
This is similar to the CFL in that it isn't the ref on field that reviews challenges - I think they are being reviewed out of their head office control centre in Toronto. Decisions are made in maybe 30 seconds compared to an eternity in the NFL - maybe because the NFL has a zillioin more camera angles they can look. It doesn't disrupt the flow of the game so much and could justify more challenges.
 

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