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If Lundy is the Texans starting RB all season... (1 Viewer)

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Assuming for a minute that Lundy (1) has the starting RB job and (2) keeps the starting RB job, where do we rank him?

As it's a Kubiak offense with a questionable o-line, I'm thinking Lundy would slot right around Droughns, McGahee, Jamal Lewis and Kevin Jones.

 
I know Kubes said he was teh starter, but will Morency eventually become the starter?
Anything is possible, but if Morency didn't beat Lundy out during training camp and the preseason, I wouldn't bank on him beating Lundy out during the regular season. Obviously there's a chance that he will, but I see no reason to think it's greater than 50 percent.
 
I know Kubes said he was teh starter, but will Morency eventually become the starter?
Anything is possible, but if Morency didn't beat Lundy out during training camp and the preseason, I wouldn't bank on him beating Lundy out during the regular season. Obviously there's a chance that he will, but I see no reason to think it's greater than 50 percent.
Well, sort of. Morency did miss time in the middle of camp that allowed Lundy to move ahead of him. In watching them in the two games they have both played it "looks" like Morency is a bit better once they're through the line. With a few glaring exceptions he's generally been a little better on pass protection as well. I expect in true Denver fashion we will see a RBBC in Houston unless one of them gets hurt. I do think that before the season is over the odds are better than 50-50 that Morency is the lead guy.
 
I'm thinking that as soon as Lundy starts and finishes an entire game I'm trading him. I have R Brown, L Jordan, C Taylor, and D Rhodes ahead of him on my depth chart, with Maurice Drew behind him.

 
I think a lot depends on:

1) How they use him in the passing game. I have read both Lundy and Morency are not particularly adept at receiving.

2) Whether the new Houston scheme will include much RB passes.

Much of DD's success was directly related to his receiving. He would not have been nearly so valuable otherwise. I understand neither Lundy nor Morency are as shifty as DD, so it will be interesting.

I have both of them, so I hope one can break into the top 15.

 
perry147 said:
PRE42 said:
I would place him in the 15 to 18 range, with upside to break the top 10.
top ten? no way. i like 15-20 range. just my 2cents.
:goodposting: There is no fantasy gold in the texans backfield this year.RBBC
Possibly, but saying no way to top 10 is a bit silly when DD, a much heralded 4th round pick :sarcasm: , turned in a top 5 finish in 2004 and was a top 10 point per game RB all 3 years when he has started. If Lundy is as good a receiver as DD, I see no reason why it isn't possible for a top 10 finish. Maybe he won't because he isn't as good as DD was or Morency will steal enough carries, but if he is better than Jonathan Wells, then it is possible.Also, since Lundy is basically late round/waiver wire (early drafts), he doesn't have to do much to be fantasy gold.
 
jaemcy3 said:
Maurile Tremblay said:
I know Kubes said he was teh starter, but will Morency eventually become the starter?
Anything is possible, but if Morency didn't beat Lundy out during training camp and the preseason, I wouldn't bank on him beating Lundy out during the regular season. Obviously there's a chance that he will, but I see no reason to think it's greater than 50 percent.
Well, sort of. Morency did miss time in the middle of camp that allowed Lundy to move ahead of him. In watching them in the two games they have both played it "looks" like Morency is a bit better once they're through the line. With a few glaring exceptions he's generally been a little better on pass protection as well. I expect in true Denver fashion we will see a RBBC in Houston unless one of them gets hurt. I do think that before the season is over the odds are better than 50-50 that Morency is the lead guy.
NO way Morency starts , 1) Morency played against second teams defense and if not for that 40 yds TD he scored game 2 he did ok but not great , WHile Lundy started the frist three pre season games ( that s a sign by the way )and played equally well in each gama.Tha is what coaching staff is looking for 'consistency' ( Morency is like a Tatum Bell inconsistent that is why they both are and will be back up )
 
I also see him in the 15-20 range but I'm hoping some of the other teams in my 14 team league that are desperate for rb's think a little more of him. I'm hoping to package him and a mediocore wr to improve my #2 wr.

 
Assuming for a minute that Lundy (1) has the starting RB job and (2) keeps the starting RB job, where do we rank him?
What part of #1 and #2 are people not getting around here? The guy asked the questions assuming those two are in place. He didn't ask if it was going to be a RBBC or anything else. Sheesh! :rolleyes:
 
perry147 said:
PRE42 said:
I would place him in the 15 to 18 range, with upside to break the top 10.
top ten? no way. i like 15-20 range. just my 2cents.
:goodposting: There is no fantasy gold in the texans backfield this year.RBBC
Possibly, but saying no way to top 10 is a bit silly when DD, a much heralded 4th round pick :sarcasm: , turned in a top 5 finish in 2004 and was a top 10 point per game RB all 3 years when he has started. If Lundy is as good a receiver as DD, I see no reason why it isn't possible for a top 10 finish. Maybe he won't because he isn't as good as DD was or Morency will steal enough carries, but if he is better than Jonathan Wells, then it is possible.Also, since Lundy is basically late round/waiver wire (early drafts), he doesn't have to do much to be fantasy gold.
Healthy DD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6th Round Pick Rookie LundyAnd the OL might be worse than last year.I am not saying to not pickup Lundy on a very late round flyer or even off the WW just do not expect to be a weekly starter. The Texan SOS against the run is tough also.
 
Working on the assumption that he stays the starter all year and is healthy all year and is used in a manner similar to Dom Davis, he'd be top 10 in a non PPR league.

 
Assuming for a minute that Lundy (1) has the starting RB job and (2) keeps the starting RB job, where do we rank him?

As it's a Kubiak offense with a questionable o-line, I'm thinking Lundy would slot right around Droughns, McGahee, Jamal Lewis and Kevin Jones.
If he somehow keeps the starting job, I'd place him in between 17 and 20. The O-line just didn't improve IMO, but in that hypothetical situation, by virtue of being the sole starter, he'd be a serviceable bye-week or match-up dependent RB.
 
Maurile Tremblay said:
I know Kubes said he was teh starter, but will Morency eventually become the starter?
Anything is possible, but if Morency didn't beat Lundy out during training camp and the preseason, I wouldn't bank on him beating Lundy out during the regular season. Obviously there's a chance that he will, but I see no reason to think it's greater than 50 percent.
:goodposting: That's a big fantasy myth that gets on my nerves sometimes. People seem to think that players will win the starting job in the middle of the season. 95% of the time, if a player couldn't win it in training camp, he can't win it during the season. One of the big exceptions is rookies who have a bit of a learning curve... but (a) RBs don't have a big learning curve, and (b) Lundy's actually got less NFL experience than Morency.
 
perry147 said:
PRE42 said:
I would place him in the 15 to 18 range, with upside to break the top 10.
top ten? no way. i like 15-20 range. just my 2cents.
:goodposting: There is no fantasy gold in the texans backfield this year.RBBC
Possibly, but saying no way to top 10 is a bit silly when DD, a much heralded 4th round pick :sarcasm: , turned in a top 5 finish in 2004 and was a top 10 point per game RB all 3 years when he has started. If Lundy is as good a receiver as DD, I see no reason why it isn't possible for a top 10 finish. Maybe he won't because he isn't as good as DD was or Morency will steal enough carries, but if he is better than Jonathan Wells, then it is possible.Also, since Lundy is basically late round/waiver wire (early drafts), he doesn't have to do much to be fantasy gold.
Healthy DD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6th Round Pick Rookie LundyAnd the OL might be worse than last year.I am not saying to not pickup Lundy on a very late round flyer or even off the WW just do not expect to be a weekly starter. The Texan SOS against the run is tough also.
Terrell Davis was also undrafted. In general, we can weght things by draft status, but I'd also point out that the 6th round draft pick was the only RB that this coaching staff selected out of ALL the RB's on the roster. Add that Kubiak is one of the guys who used to find gems in the late rounds or undrafted players back in DEN...ANYTHING is possible.
 
perry147 said:
PRE42 said:
I would place him in the 15 to 18 range, with upside to break the top 10.
top ten? no way. i like 15-20 range. just my 2cents.
:goodposting: There is no fantasy gold in the texans backfield this year.RBBC
Possibly, but saying no way to top 10 is a bit silly when DD, a much heralded 4th round pick :sarcasm: , turned in a top 5 finish in 2004 and was a top 10 point per game RB all 3 years when he has started. If Lundy is as good a receiver as DD, I see no reason why it isn't possible for a top 10 finish. Maybe he won't because he isn't as good as DD was or Morency will steal enough carries, but if he is better than Jonathan Wells, then it is possible.Also, since Lundy is basically late round/waiver wire (early drafts), he doesn't have to do much to be fantasy gold.
Healthy DD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6th Round Pick Rookie LundyAnd the OL might be worse than last year.I am not saying to not pickup Lundy on a very late round flyer or even off the WW just do not expect to be a weekly starter. The Texan SOS against the run is tough also.
Terrell Davis was also undrafted. In general, we can weght things by draft status, but I'd also point out that the 6th round draft pick was the only RB that this coaching staff selected out of ALL the RB's on the roster. Add that Kubiak is one of the guys who used to find gems in the late rounds or undrafted players back in DEN...ANYTHING is possible.
A couple of wrong facts in this post:1. Terrell Davis was a 6th rounder by the Broncos2. Chris Taylor was signed as an UDFA from Indiana3. Antowain Smith was signed by this coaching staff May 9, 2006
 
perry147 said:
PRE42 said:
I would place him in the 15 to 18 range, with upside to break the top 10.
top ten? no way. i like 15-20 range. just my 2cents.
:goodposting: There is no fantasy gold in the texans backfield this year.RBBC
Possibly, but saying no way to top 10 is a bit silly when DD, a much heralded 4th round pick :sarcasm: , turned in a top 5 finish in 2004 and was a top 10 point per game RB all 3 years when he has started. If Lundy is as good a receiver as DD, I see no reason why it isn't possible for a top 10 finish. Maybe he won't because he isn't as good as DD was or Morency will steal enough carries, but if he is better than Jonathan Wells, then it is possible.Also, since Lundy is basically late round/waiver wire (early drafts), he doesn't have to do much to be fantasy gold.
Healthy DD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6th Round Pick Rookie LundyAnd the OL might be worse than last year.I am not saying to not pickup Lundy on a very late round flyer or even off the WW just do not expect to be a weekly starter. The Texan SOS against the run is tough also.
Terrell Davis was also undrafted. In general, we can weght things by draft status, but I'd also point out that the 6th round draft pick was the only RB that this coaching staff selected out of ALL the RB's on the roster. Add that Kubiak is one of the guys who used to find gems in the late rounds or undrafted players back in DEN...ANYTHING is possible.
TD was not undrafted. He was drafted in the 6th round.
 
I've got him ranked RB28 right now. Just not sure if he'll be the starter all year.

BUT, if he IS in fact the starter all year (like your post says), he will be at least RB15, IMO.

I like Kubiacs system.

 
With the assumptions given in the first post I would put him at about RB 14.

256 Carries

1126 Yards

9 TDs

Maybe 200-300 yards receiving.

Assumptions:

1. Is starter.

2. Stays starter all season long.

3. Doesn't get hurt.

4. Gets workload similar to Mike Anderson 2005 (~16 carries per game).

5. Kubiak and his staff are good coaches and are able to effectively institute a zone blocking run offense.

 
perry147 said:
PRE42 said:
I would place him in the 15 to 18 range, with upside to break the top 10.
top ten? no way. i like 15-20 range. just my 2cents.
:goodposting: There is no fantasy gold in the texans backfield this year.RBBC
Possibly, but saying no way to top 10 is a bit silly when DD, a much heralded 4th round pick :sarcasm: , turned in a top 5 finish in 2004 and was a top 10 point per game RB all 3 years when he has started. If Lundy is as good a receiver as DD, I see no reason why it isn't possible for a top 10 finish. Maybe he won't because he isn't as good as DD was or Morency will steal enough carries, but if he is better than Jonathan Wells, then it is possible.Also, since Lundy is basically late round/waiver wire (early drafts), he doesn't have to do much to be fantasy gold.
Healthy DD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6th Round Pick Rookie LundyAnd the OL might be worse than last year.I am not saying to not pickup Lundy on a very late round flyer or even off the WW just do not expect to be a weekly starter. The Texan SOS against the run is tough also.
Terrell Davis was also undrafted. In general, we can weght things by draft status, but I'd also point out that the 6th round draft pick was the only RB that this coaching staff selected out of ALL the RB's on the roster. Add that Kubiak is one of the guys who used to find gems in the late rounds or undrafted players back in DEN...ANYTHING is possible.
A couple of wrong facts in this post:1. Terrell Davis was a 6th rounder by the Broncos2. Chris Taylor was signed as an UDFA from Indiana3. Antowain Smith was signed by this coaching staff May 9, 2006
:lmao: I wasn't going to say anything.
 
And the [Texan's] OL might be worse than last year.
FLA\/\/ED!Not possible. TIA.Seriously though - Kubiack has been taking no name RBs and turning chicken u-know-what into chicken salad for years. To think it impossible for him to do again is a little short-sighted. All absolutes are dangerous (even this one). :yes:
 
I think the word 'starter' is being misused a lot in this thread. Just because Lundy is the 'starter' does not mean he's going to grab 70% of the touches from the RB position. Morency and Smith will be in the mix. To answer the original question with this in mind I think Lundy would get about 55% of the touches and it would be a real stretch to see him at 1000 yards.

 
Lundy will be this years W. Parker, will have to share some carries, but if doesn't get hurt or fumble the job away, I see him being as high as #10 RB (ceiling) and as low as 16 (basement) a very good #3 RB for a FF team, and a serviceable #2 RB. Great value if you drafted him right.

 
Lundy will be this years W. Parker, will have to share some carries, but if doesn't get hurt or fumble the job away, I see him being as high as #10 RB (ceiling) and as low as 16 (basement) a very good #3 RB for a FF team, and a serviceable #2 RB. Great value if you drafted him right.
I think people are seeing the words "Houston Texans" and assuming there is no value here, or thinking that Domanick Davis was some premier talent who won't easily be replaced. People, Houston's offense relies almost ENTIRELY on the RB. Take a gander at what transpired against Denver. Lundy had over sixty yards and three catches, and Houston STRUGGLED moving the ball. Even if the split is 60/40 with Morency, which I frankly doubt, the starting RB in Houston will be no less than RB20, good for RB2 in any league. I can't wait to watch this play out. I wouldn't overthink it. Lundy and Morency can be had very cheaply in drafts, and who ever gets the bigger load is going to be a TREMENDOUS asset. ACQUIRE THEM.
 
I think the carries could end up being the same as Anderson and Bell last year with one major difference, the O-line. Everyone is saying that since Kubiak is now at Houston it will be similar to Denver but unfortunately he didn’t bring over all of Denver’s offensive players. I am a Lundy and Morency owner and I am taking the first solid trade offer and :)

 

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