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If Society Collapses, What's Your Plan? (1 Viewer)

GordonGekko said:
I've been looking for a good backpack. Anybody got any recommendations? 6'5" and weigh 280 (40" waist).
If the purpose is to create a Bug Out Bag, you'll probably want to avoid anything that looks tactical/military/stands out. Last thing you want, esp if things are going bad and people are desperate is to look like you have useful stuff on you and in your pack.

In that regard, in terms of something "urban", the biggest consideration should be how water resistant it is and it's something you can place on the ground without getting everything inside wet under any conditions.

While it looks a bit more obtrusive, and it's more expensive, the backpacks with an integrated solar panel are infinitely useful. Usually it's linked to a USB charger and you can hopefully charge your IPad, phone, other items when you are on the move.

If you are planning for a lot of outdoor use, I'd consider getting a pack with a good frame and waist belt integrated. This will save on your back and you'll have the option to detach the pack and use the frame to pack mule things like firewood ( If you have bungies) if needed. A frame will also make it easier to carry a bed roll.

Outdoor use, the color red offers you the best visibility in poor/low light conditions. If you are lost and need rescue, last thing you need in the wilderness is a pack that blends right in.

In a real survival situation, you cannot function if you are not well rested or as best rested as conditions allow. While it seems counter intuitive in some ways, you need to sleep and you need to rest. If your mind is foggy and tired and you are hungry and wet, you will tend to make poor decisions.

You can go to a Goodwill or a surplus shop and find an inexpensive usable pack for BOB purposes.
Hmmm...so I shouldn't buy the Molle 2 with 2 sustainment bags for $50 I just found.

 
cosjobs said:
culdeus said:
Chadstroma said:
Parents have a camper always

ready to go and are best friends with a couple who are ranchers with 200+ cattle. Problem is getting there as its 800 miles away. Have an uncle/aunt on a farm 200 miles away so can stop there, but rest of the way is going to be difficult.
200+ cattle on a ranch is alot of area/livestock to protect. By the time it takes you to travel 800 miles in the event of a total societal collapse- most likely your parents best friends will be dead and the cattle gone. That is assuming you could travel 800 miles in an RV with all the chaos going on.
Anyone within 100 miles know where cattle are run and will head there ASAP. The last thing I'd want to be around is livestock. Talk about a target on your back. Most areas of texas cattle are run over wheat. In other areas corn runs in between range plots and rotate, that's where you want to be. range land will be some of the most hard fought areas in the wild. Not to mention cows usually have access to water. Whomever is able to take and hold range land wins.
Except for actually spending the rest of their miserable life on a range. I'll take two weeks of watching tv off the generator and cleaning out the wine and medicine cabinets over 20 years on on a range, living with bulls and guarding a mudhole.
You actually turn on a generator you are dead in a week in your sleep. People with generators are the first people I hunt down and slit their throats because they probably prepped

 
cosjobs said:
culdeus said:
Chadstroma said:
Parents have a camper always

ready to go and are best friends with a couple who are ranchers with 200+ cattle. Problem is getting there as its 800 miles away. Have an uncle/aunt on a farm 200 miles away so can stop there, but rest of the way is going to be difficult.
200+ cattle on a ranch is alot of area/livestock to protect. By the time it takes you to travel 800 miles in the event of a total societal collapse- most likely your parents best friends will be dead and the cattle gone. That is assuming you could travel 800 miles in an RV with all the chaos going on.
Anyone within 100 miles know where cattle are run and will head there ASAP. The last thing I'd want to be around is livestock. Talk about a target on your back. Most areas of texas cattle are run over wheat. In other areas corn runs in between range plots and rotate, that's where you want to be. range land will be some of the most hard fought areas in the wild. Not to mention cows usually have access to water. Whomever is able to take and hold range land wins.
Except for actually spending the rest of their miserable life on a range. I'll take two weeks of watching tv off the generator and cleaning out the wine and medicine cabinets over 20 years on on a range, living with bulls and guarding a mudhole.
You actually turn on a generator you are dead in a week in your sleep. People with generators are the first people I hunt down and slit their throats because they probably prepped
You should just wait the two weeks. I'll blow you're ***cking brains out if you come in my house while i still have booze and pills.

 
GordonGekko said:
rascal said:
I've been looking for a good backpack. Anybody got any recommendations? 6'5" and weigh 280 (40" waist).
If the purpose is to create a Bug Out Bag, you'll probably want to avoid anything that looks tactical/military/stands out. Last thing you want, esp if things are going bad and people are desperate is to look like you have useful stuff on you and in your pack.

In that regard, in terms of something "urban", the biggest consideration should be how water resistant it is and it's something you can place on the ground without getting everything inside wet under any conditions.

While it looks a bit more obtrusive, and it's more expensive, the backpacks with an integrated solar panel are infinitely useful. Usually it's linked to a USB charger and you can hopefully charge your IPad, phone, other items when you are on the move.

If you are planning for a lot of outdoor use, I'd consider getting a pack with a good frame and waist belt integrated. This will save on your back and you'll have the option to detach the pack and use the frame to pack mule things like firewood ( If you have bungies) if needed. A frame will also make it easier to carry a bed roll.

Outdoor use, the color red offers you the best visibility in poor/low light conditions. If you are lost and need rescue, last thing you need in the wilderness is a pack that blends right in.

In a real survival situation, you cannot function if you are not well rested or as best rested as conditions allow. While it seems counter intuitive in some ways, you need to sleep and you need to rest. If your mind is foggy and tired and you are hungry and wet, you will tend to make poor decisions.

You can go to a Goodwill or a surplus shop and find an inexpensive usable pack for BOB purposes.
Thought about this some more. I don't think it matters if the bag is "military" or not. Regardless of the color of the bag, having one would indicate a level of preparedness and having something of value. But having a military bag is beneficial in that it indicates the holder is ex-military with the benefits that would entail...i.e. not easy to rip off/kill.

Of course, none of this matters. I have a six year old and two one year old twins. We can't leave the house if we wanted to. I've tried.

 

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