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[The_Man]

I'm still a little confused. We sit through 1,000 words on hanging out at the apartment, ending with a hug and a text, and then as an afterthought we learn that he's back with her to the point of finger-banging?

It's like if "Empire Strikes Back" skips the whole Vader-Luke "I am your father" scene and then at the end when Luke gets rescued by the Millenium Falcon, they ask what's up and he's like: "Oh, yeah, forgot to mention - Vader's my father."

 

[placebo]

I just don't get why anyone would stay with a cheater. You're always going to wonder about her even when things are good. She's going to know she can get away with just about any behavior and take advantage of it. Everyone wants a 10/10 relationship right? Even best case scenario, this one's not getting there.

I'll give 16 a glimmer of hope here. a friend of mine dated this girl through most of college. they graduated, got jobs, and she ended up cheating with a co-worker. He stayed with her and they eventually married. they now have two kids and have a seemingly happy life together. she's never cheated again and is a genuinely sweet girl who admittedly made a horrible mistake.of course, she didn't go to Hawaii with the co-worker or date him for months while stringing my buddy along. She told him about the tryst because she felt horrible about it, apologized profusely, begged him to not leave, and has been a great partner since. None of the manipulating I've seen in this thread, but anyway, just wanted to point out that cheaters can change. doesn't happen often, but it can happen.

Yeah, I know I made a blanket statement and there's exceptions out there; and not all cheating is created equally. But IMO, there's so many fish in the sea that settling for a cheater is a mistake.

 

[Rick James]

I'm legit pissed off right now. If you were a real life friend of mine I'd slap the #### out of you and tell you to wake up.

but, I don't know, keep writing novels about the coral dress and your diabetic friend Joe or whatever.

 

[dparker713]

So, she was ready to leave town, you were almost free. And then you ####ed up big time. You're so screwed.

 

[Angry Beavers]

I can see the next update already..

She called and said "I went to HI with the PT. He could tell something was really bugging me. It was not any fun at all. I did my best to avoid spending time with him. Did you miss me as much as I missed you?"

The reality is that she is having a great time with the PT and yes, she is still sleeping with him, and no, that is not going to stop anytime soon.

Really, she needs a vacation? but you are going to show her and go to Vegas with the guys..........

Let's make a wild prediction: While you are in Vegas what are the chances that she will be banging the PT or some other dude? I dare say any guess less than 98% is just kidding yourself.

Do you really want a relationship with someone who you can't trust?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

At this point I'm rooting for the ex. Good luck No. 16.

 

[Tabasco Red]

The next time you think about wanting to share some news with her, because she was your best friend and rainbows and skittles, think about how sweaty that personal trainers balls were when he was bending her over like a dog and trying to destroy her uterus. Think about her laying there chewing on a pillow with her ### in the air getting drilled, and loving every minute of it, and yelling "YES YES YES", because let's face it, dude is in great shape and was probably wearing that thing out like it hadn't been worn out in a long time. And think about how much she liked it. And then how she probably licked the sweat off of his balls while he was trying to finish on her dome.

This tramp isn't worth your time 16. It's painful to see you falling into the same thing thousands and thousands of other suckers have fallen for in the past.

I need to carry this around in my wallet. Just reading that pisses me off. Thanks.

How do you not remember this? Unbelievable...

 

[gianmarco]

The next time you think about wanting to share some news with her, because she was your best friend and rainbows and skittles, think about how sweaty that personal trainers balls were when he was bending her over like a dog and trying to destroy her uterus. Think about her laying there chewing on a pillow with her ### in the air getting drilled, and loving every minute of it, and yelling "YES YES YES", because let's face it, dude is in great shape and was probably wearing that thing out like it hadn't been worn out in a long time. And think about how much she liked it. And then how she probably licked the sweat off of his balls while he was trying to finish on her dome.

This tramp isn't worth your time 16. It's painful to see you falling into the same thing thousands and thousands of other suckers have fallen for in the past.

I need to carry this around in my wallet. Just reading that pisses me off. Thanks.

How do you not remember this? Unbelievable...

It was the coral. How do you not remember this?

 

[Apple Juice]

At this point I'm rooting for the ex. Good luck No. 16.

As purely horrid as this thread has been, you've tried to keep a straight face and offer practical insight more than everyone else combined. You really tried. I don't even know why but I felt like commending you for it. Frankly we should all just bow out at this point.

 

[Gr00vus]

I'm not evil enough to do it, but I'm disappointed some of the more freewheeling FBGs haven't picked up the "Alyssa's Personal Trainer" alias and run with it.

 

[No. 16]

She says she just needs the time to relax since her day to day life since we broke up has been terrible. Believe me I protested but hey I have some Vegas trips planned so it is what it is. I'm going on those trips whether she likes it or not (mid august, labor day weekend, and late September). I'll find out soon enough where our relationship stands...one of the biggest things weighing on her mind is if she should move back to SoCal to be near her family. She's actually already put a down payment on a house down there and had turned down a full time position at the hospital.Acording to her she was set on moving back until we started talking again.

No. 16, we all appreciate the honesty. That's the god honest truth.A few thoughts - you aren't together any more, and talked to her for a couple days. It doesn't mean you're back in a relationship with her, but it reads like you are ("I'm going whether she likes it or not" reads like you need to get permission from your non-girlfriend to go). For the love of your sanity, let her move back to SoCal and each of you start a non-codependent life again - clean break - let it happen.

I know I'm not in a relationship with her that's why I said what I said. I'm going on those trips whether she likes it or not if we even are still talking at that time. I'm not going to ask her permission.

 

[urbanhack]

Just scanned the last page. So glad I've missed the last 15 pages or so.

What a waste that would have been.

WHEW

 

[Controller]

For her to be worried about No. 16 being a man-whore, either she is reading this thread, or one of his good buddies (who knows about Susan or the coke-slinging HI raw dog party) has blabbed & its gotten back to her.

 

[LongDuckDong]

16 - Trust me, I'm feeling for you here. You see the light at the end of the tunnel, you feel like all the pain was worth it, she's coming back...



IF SHE WOULD DO ANYTHING TO HAVE YOU BACK INCLUDING WALKING ON HANDS AND KNEES THROUGH GLASS TO SHOW YOU SHE WANTED TO BE WITH YOU SHE WOULD NOT VACATION WITH HER STILL-BOYFRIEND

You're feeding her ego. She loves knowing she can vanish for months and you'll come crawling back to her. She does not view your conversations as "things we can only say to each other".

I feel for you - she is going to knock you back to January. You're going to end up starting over. I feel horribly for you.

 

[jamny]

She says she just needs the time to relax since her day to day life since we broke up has been terrible. Believe me I protested but hey I have some Vegas trips planned so it is what it is. I'm going on those trips whether she likes it or not (mid august, labor day weekend, and late September).

I'll find out soon enough where our relationship stands...one of the biggest things weighing on her mind is if she should move back to SoCal to be near her family. She's actually already put a down payment on a house down there and had turned down a full time position at the hospital.

Acording to her she was set on moving back until we started talking again.

No. 16, we all appreciate the honesty. That's the god honest truth.A few thoughts - you aren't together any more, and talked to her for a couple days. It doesn't mean you're back in a relationship with her, but it reads like you are ("I'm going whether she likes it or not" reads like you need to get permission from your non-girlfriend to go). For the love of your sanity, let her move back to SoCal and each of you start a non-codependent life again - clean break - let it happen.

I know I'm not in a relationship with her that's why I said what I said. I'm going on those trips whether she likes it or not if we even are still talking at that time. I'm not going to ask her permission.

Why does that need to be said? Did she already ask you not to go?

 

[sbonomo]

At this point I'm rooting for the ex. Good luck No. 16.

 

[No. 16]

Just want to clarify that her "vacation" is a mission/charity trip with the PT's church. Large group of them going, etc. Again not ideal, but it's not like it's a romantic get away.

Honestly, the whole thing has happened quickly and out of no where. I know practically everyone in this thread has advised me to stay away from her because many of you have witnessed it or experienced, but I guess I just need to find out on my own. I know I would always have my doubts if I never tried to see how things are or could be. My feeling on our relationship is that she made a huge mistake, realized it right away, but felt pot committed. Especially since according to her my GB and his GF were telling her how adamant/vocal I was about not getting back with her ever again. This is pretty much what she has expressed to me in our talks.

I mean just looking at it from her perspective.... if we truly do get back together imagine the crap she'll have to deal with just rebuilding the relationship with my family (my family has pretty much told me to forget her from day 1). Imagine the scrutiny she'll be under from our friends about how the 2nd go around will turn out. That's an awful lot to go through just to keep "stringing" me along.

I know you guys think I haven't learned a thing, but believe I'm approaching this with caution and I'm willing to cut bait if it doesn't feel right. I've been cheated on once by her. I know all her tricks and I know how it feels when she's in love with you and when she's not. If things aren't there then I'm going to leave her, but at least I'll know for sure that there was nothing there to begin with.

 

[No. 16]

She says she just needs the time to relax since her day to day life since we broke up has been terrible. Believe me I protested but hey I have some Vegas trips planned so it is what it is. I'm going on those trips whether she likes it or not (mid august, labor day weekend, and late September).

I'll find out soon enough where our relationship stands...one of the biggest things weighing on her mind is if she should move back to SoCal to be near her family. She's actually already put a down payment on a house down there and had turned down a full time position at the hospital.

Acording to her she was set on moving back until we started talking again.

No. 16, we all appreciate the honesty. That's the god honest truth.A few thoughts - you aren't together any more, and talked to her for a couple days. It doesn't mean you're back in a relationship with her, but it reads like you are ("I'm going whether she likes it or not" reads like you need to get permission from your non-girlfriend to go). For the love of your sanity, let her move back to SoCal and each of you start a non-codependent life again - clean break - let it happen.

I know I'm not in a relationship with her that's why I said what I said. I'm going on those trips whether she likes it or not if we even are still talking at that time. I'm not going to ask her permission.

Why does that need to be said? Did she already ask you not to go?

No, but JFT Ben felt that's the way it read.

 

[identikit]

Just want to clarify that her "vacation" is a mission/charity trip with the PT's church. Large group of them going, etc. Again not ideal, but it's not like it's a romantic get away.

Honestly, the whole thing has happened quickly and out of no where. I know practically everyone in this thread has advised me to stay away from her because many of you have witnessed it or experienced, but I guess I just need to find out on my own. I know I would always have my doubts if I never tried to see how things are or could be. My feeling on our relationship is that she made a huge mistake, realized it right away, but felt pot committed. Especially since according to her my GB and his GF were telling her how adamant/vocal I was about not getting back with her ever again. This is pretty much what she has expressed to me in our talks.

I mean just looking at it from her perspective.... if we truly do get back together imagine the crap she'll have to deal with just rebuilding the relationship with my family (my family has pretty much told me to forget her from day 1). Imagine the scrutiny she'll be under from our friends about how the 2nd go around will turn out. That's an awful lot to go through just to keep "stringing" me along.

I know you guys think I haven't learned a thing, but believe I'm approaching this with caution and I'm willing to cut bait if it doesn't feel right. I've been cheated on once by her. I know all her tricks and I know how it feels when she's in love with you and when she's not. If things aren't there then I'm going to leave her, but at least I'll know for sure that there was nothing there to begin with.

You've never really left her, sadly.

 

[gianmarco]

My feeling on our relationship is that she made a huge mistake, realized it right away, but felt pot committed.

You misspelled ####.

 

[No. 16]

Just want to clarify that her "vacation" is a mission/charity trip with the PT's church. Large group of them going, etc. Again not ideal, but it's not like it's a romantic get away.

Honestly, the whole thing has happened quickly and out of no where. I know practically everyone in this thread has advised me to stay away from her because many of you have witnessed it or experienced, but I guess I just need to find out on my own. I know I would always have my doubts if I never tried to see how things are or could be. My feeling on our relationship is that she made a huge mistake, realized it right away, but felt pot committed. Especially since according to her my GB and his GF were telling her how adamant/vocal I was about not getting back with her ever again. This is pretty much what she has expressed to me in our talks.

I mean just looking at it from her perspective.... if we truly do get back together imagine the crap she'll have to deal with just rebuilding the relationship with my family (my family has pretty much told me to forget her from day 1). Imagine the scrutiny she'll be under from our friends about how the 2nd go around will turn out. That's an awful lot to go through just to keep "stringing" me along.

I know you guys think I haven't learned a thing, but believe I'm approaching this with caution and I'm willing to cut bait if it doesn't feel right. I've been cheated on once by her. I know all her tricks and I know how it feels when she's in love with you and when she's not. If things aren't there then I'm going to leave her, but at least I'll know for sure that there was nothing there to begin with.

You've never really left her, sadly.

Can't deny that any longer.

 

[jamny]

Well, good luck bro.

You're setting yourself up for another heartbreak. I don't know how anyone could go back to someone who cheated on them. Not just a one-night thing but a behind the back, ongoing affair. She's not worth it.

I hope we're all wrong.

 

[jamny]

Not hoping to get back together

really?

Really.

 

[Gr00vus]

her "vacation" is a mission/charity trip with the PT's church

Is that the one that applies the addendums to the 7th and 10th commandments:7.a: "But screw the hell out of someone else's girlfriend/fiancee."

10.a: "Thou shalt covet thy neighbor's girlfriend's ###."

my GB and his GF were telling her how adamant/vocal I was about not getting back with her ever again.

That's why she wants you back - you stood up for yourself and were therefore a challenge. Now you're back to being her house boy.

I know you guys think I haven't learned a thing

You haven't.You never let her go, and now she's going to use you again.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Just want to clarify that her "vacation" is a mission/charity trip with the PT's church. Large group of them going, etc. Again not ideal, but it's not like it's a romantic get away.

Honestly, the whole thing has happened quickly and out of no where. I know practically everyone in this thread has advised me to stay away from her because many of you have witnessed it or experienced, but I guess I just need to find out on my own. I know I would always have my doubts if I never tried to see how things are or could be. My feeling on our relationship is that she made a huge mistake, realized it right away, but felt pot committed. Especially since according to her my GB and his GF were telling her how adamant/vocal I was about not getting back with her ever again. This is pretty much what she has expressed to me in our talks.

I mean just looking at it from her perspective.... if we truly do get back together imagine the crap she'll have to deal with just rebuilding the relationship with my family (my family has pretty much told me to forget her from day 1). Imagine the scrutiny she'll be under from our friends about how the 2nd go around will turn out. That's an awful lot to go through just to keep "stringing" me along.

I know you guys think I haven't learned a thing, but believe I'm approaching this with caution and I'm willing to cut bait if it doesn't feel right. I've been cheated on once by her. I know all her tricks and I know how it feels when she's in love with you and when she's not. If things aren't there then I'm going to leave her, but at least I'll know for sure that there was nothing there to begin with.

1 - No you're not. At least recognize that fact.2 - You wouldn't know a wrong feeling if it kicked you where your nuts are supposed to be.

 

[BigJim®]

Just want to clarify that her "vacation" is a mission/charity trip with the PT's church. Large group of them going, etc. Again not ideal, but it's not like it's a romantic get away.Honestly, the whole thing has happened quickly and out of no where. I know practically everyone in this thread has advised me to stay away from her because many of you have witnessed it or experienced, but I guess I just need to find out on my own. I know I would always have my doubts if I never tried to see how things are or could be. My feeling on our relationship is that she made a huge mistake, realized it right away, but felt pot committed. Especially since according to her my GB and his GF were telling her how adamant/vocal I was about not getting back with her ever again. This is pretty much what she has expressed to me in our talks. I mean just looking at it from her perspective.... if we truly do get back together imagine the crap she'll have to deal with just rebuilding the relationship with my family (my family has pretty much told me to forget her from day 1). Imagine the scrutiny she'll be under from our friends about how the 2nd go around will turn out. That's an awful lot to go through just to keep "stringing" me along. I know you guys think I haven't learned a thing, but believe I'm approaching this with caution and I'm willing to cut bait if it doesn't feel right. I've been cheated on once by her. I know all her tricks and I know how it feels when she's in love with you and when she's not. If things aren't there then I'm going to leave her, but at least I'll know for sure that there was nothing there to begin with.

So completely delusional.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

CORAL

 

[identikit]

Alyssa's after the dog.

Almost has it.

 

[gianmarco]

How many in the FFA are you inviting to the wedding?

 

[jamny]

How many in the FFA are you inviting to the wedding?

and have you started picking out your dress yet?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I know all her tricks and I know how it feels when she's in love with you and when she's not.

Aren't you the same guy who was completely stunned when she left you the first time and refused to believe that she was getting pinned to the sheets by another guy? Did you know then that she wasn't in love with you?

Right now I'm going through a break up that came out of left field for me. I honestly had no idea she was feeling this way.

When you posted this, she was already walking around with PT's DNA in her body for quite a while. Oh, but you can read her like a book now.

 

[No. 16]

Just want to ask you guys who have chimed in... what makes a strong marriage? With the divorce rate at about 50% what is the difference between the couples that stay together and those that are easily willing to divorce to find "happiness"?

Maybe I'm completely wrong but I think the couples that stay together and are happy are the ones that are willing to work things out and the ones that can forgive one another. Maybe, I'm tainted because I saw my parents marriage almost fall apart (my father hid another son and an ex-wife from my mother for 5 years after they were married) and now they are still together and happy as can be.

I guess I kind of see Alyssa and I in the same light. We're all shaped by our experiences and I guess we'll find out how this shapes me.

 

[No. 16]

I know all her tricks and I know how it feels when she's in love with you and when she's not.

Aren't you the same guy who was completely stunned when she left you the first time and refused to believe that she was getting pinned to the sheets by another guy? Did you know then that she wasn't in love with you?

Right now I'm going through a break up that came out of left field for me. I honestly had no idea she was feeling this way.

When you posted this, she was already walking around with PT's DNA in her body for quite a while. Oh, but you can read her like a book now.

Looking back, there were the tell tale signs that I now can recognize: she was distant, less sex, more irritable, more possessive of her phone, just generally disinterested in whatever I did. There are a bunch of little things that suddenly make sense after looking back.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Just want to ask you guys who have chimed in... what makes a strong marriage? With the divorce rate at about 50% what is the difference between the couples that stay together and those that are easily willing to divorce to find "happiness"?Maybe I'm completely wrong but I think the couples that stay together and are happy are the ones that are willing to work things out and the ones that can forgive one another. Maybe, I'm tainted because I saw my parents marriage almost fall apart (my father hid another son and an ex-wife from my mother for 5 years after they were married) and now they are still together and happy as can be. I guess I kind of see Alyssa and I in the same light.

The fact that you're talking about your ex and marriage in the same post is like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest. You're just going to get everybody all pissed at you again.

 

[gianmarco]

Just want to ask you guys who have chimed in... what makes a strong marriage? With the divorce rate at about 50% what is the difference between the couples that stay together and those that are easily willing to divorce to find "happiness"?Maybe I'm completely wrong but I think the couples that stay together and are happy are the ones that are willing to work things out and the ones that can forgive one another. Maybe, I'm tainted because I saw my parents marriage almost fall apart (my father hid another son and an ex-wife from my mother for 5 years after they were married) and now they are still together and happy as can be. I guess I kind of see Alyssa and I in the same light.

JFC.You can't even handle a regular relationship or even a one night stand and now you're trying to espouse on what makes a marriage last? Are you for real?

 

[jamny]

Just want to ask you guys who have chimed in... what makes a strong marriage? With the divorce rate at about 50% what is the difference between the couples that stay together and those that are easily willing to divorce to find "happiness"?Maybe I'm completely wrong but I think the couples that stay together and are happy are the ones that are willing to work things out and the ones that can forgive one another. Maybe, I'm tainted because I saw my parents marriage almost fall apart (my father hid another son and an ex-wife from my mother for 5 years after they were married) and now they are still together and happy as can be. I guess I kind of see Alyssa and I in the same light.

Trust and communication. (married 18 years)and you weren't married...that's the point. It's one thing to work on a marriage after the commitment and quite another thing to stay with a cheating whore who you are only dating. There might be a few differing opinions in this thread if you were married.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

I'll find out soon enough where our relationship stands...

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Just want to ask you guys who have chimed in... what makes a strong marriage? With the divorce rate at about 50% what is the difference between the couples that stay together and those that are easily willing to divorce to find "happiness"?Maybe I'm completely wrong but I think the couples that stay together and are happy are the ones that are willing to work things out and the ones that can forgive one another. Maybe, I'm tainted because I saw my parents marriage almost fall apart (my father hid another son and an ex-wife from my mother for 5 years after they were married) and now they are still together and happy as can be. I guess I kind of see Alyssa and I in the same light. We're all shaped by our experiences and I guess we'll find out how this shapes me.

Serious question - what's the point of getting a response from the ffa? Is your mind going to be changed from your current course? It doesn't matter what the response is - you're going down this crappy road. And couples that work together probably don't involve the woman running off on vacations with the guy she cheated with, but instead trying to make things work with you (while cutting off all contact with him). I totally understand where you're coming from. I've been in a somewhat similar situation. As have a lot of guys. Really, you AND the ex are entirely too immature and too inexperienced. You are completely delusional.

 

[placebo]

I'm legit pissed off right now. If you were a real life friend of mine I'd slap the #### out of you and tell you to wake up.but, I don't know, keep writing novels about the coral dress and your diabetic friend Joe or whatever.

His friends have #### the bed here not smacking some sense into him and keeping him away from this girl. Et tu, Rusty? Or they tried to and 16 is literally a brick wall.

 

[identikit]

I'm legit pissed off right now. If you were a real life friend of mine I'd slap the #### out of you and tell you to wake up.

but, I don't know, keep writing novels about the coral dress and your diabetic friend Joe or whatever.

His friends have #### the bed here not smacking some sense into him and keeping him away from this girl. Et tu, Rusty? Or they tried to and 16 is literally a brick wall.

I'm betting on this.

 

[johnnycakes]

What you need to win her back is an old-school serenade. You know, stand under her bedroom window and lay a little

on her and she'll be swooning into your arms in no time. I, I'm so in love with you

Whatever you want to do

Is all right with me

'Cause you make me feel so brand new

And I want to spend my life with you

Since, since we've been together

Loving you forever

Is what I need

Let me be the one you come running to

I'll never be untrue

Let's, let's stay together

Lovin' you whether, whether

Times are good or bad, happy or sad

Whether times are good or bad, happy or sad

...

 

[jamny]

Has anyone said "you poor dumb *******" recently?

 

[No. 16]

What you need to win her back is an old-school serenade. You know, stand under her bedroom window and lay a little

Ironically, this is possibly my favorite song of all time.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

How many in the FFA are you inviting to the wedding?

I hope I'm invited just so I can try some :E:

 

[johnnycakes]

What you need to win her back is an old-school serenade. You know, stand under her bedroom window and lay a little

song. Luckily my sweetie is still working on her English.

 

[No. 16]

I'm legit pissed off right now. If you were a real life friend of mine I'd slap the #### out of you and tell you to wake up.but, I don't know, keep writing novels about the coral dress and your diabetic friend Joe or whatever.

His friends have #### the bed here not smacking some sense into him and keeping him away from this girl. Et tu, Rusty? Or they tried to and 16 is literally a brick wall.

None of my friend's have really said much as they don't know any of this is happening right now.

 

[encaitar]

Just want to ask you guys who have chimed in... what makes a strong marriage? With the divorce rate at about 50% what is the difference between the couples that stay together and those that are easily willing to divorce to find "happiness"?Maybe I'm completely wrong but I think the couples that stay together and are happy are the ones that are willing to work things out and the ones that can forgive one another. Maybe, I'm tainted because I saw my parents marriage almost fall apart (my father hid another son and an ex-wife from my mother for 5 years after they were married) and now they are still together and happy as can be. I guess I kind of see Alyssa and I in the same light. We're all shaped by our experiences and I guess we'll find out how this shapes me.

A strong marriage takes two individuals completely committed to each other. Sure mistakes can happen and good marriages can survive them. Why? Because the person who made the mistake feels horrible about it and spends the rest of their life ensuring they never hurt the one they love again. This doesn't describe you and Alyssa. In fact, instead of trying to make up for her mistake, she's on vacation ####### the guy she cheated on you with right now. Run. Please for the love of all that is sacred and holy.... run. And if you were my real life friend and ever mentioned Alyssa and marriage in the same sentence in front of me, I'd beat you until you forgot her name. Jesus.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

Btw, you should probably get rid of that sig.

 

[placebo]

I'm legit pissed off right now. If you were a real life friend of mine I'd slap the #### out of you and tell you to wake up.but, I don't know, keep writing novels about the coral dress and your diabetic friend Joe or whatever.

His friends have #### the bed here not smacking some sense into him and keeping him away from this girl. Et tu, Rusty? Or they tried to and 16 is literally a brick wall.

None of my friend's have really said much as they don't know any of this is happening right now.

What about the time between the breakup up until now? Was their advice more or less the same as you got in this thread? I'm curious because while I can understand ignoring random internet dudes regardless of how good their advice is, I can't understand ignoring a friend in your face giving the same advice.

 

[Quint]

I'll find out soon enough where our relationship stands...

his relationship is standing at the bottom of a pit, looking up helplessly while a bucket with lotion is lowered down to it.