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So how would you prevent a broken heart if it's 5 years from now and you're married and she cheats again?
I'll have to see if that's a risk worth taking.
Oh bull####. If she SNEEZED in a manner that sounded like she wanted you back you'd drop to all fours and scurry back and start licking the tops of her feet. You know it. We know it. She knows it. Quit pretending like you've ever had any real hand whatsoever in this situation. You're her lapdog... her backup plan. The guy who will always be there no matter how hard she kicks you in the balls, as long as she's willing to bat her eyes and say she's sowwy. The sooner you get your head out of your ### and accept that, the sooner you'll be able to make a halfway informed decision regarding this situation. Denying it doesn't make it any less true, so knock it off.
I'll admit, I always wanted a second chance with her, because looking back now I was boring and while I wasn't a completely lousy boyfriend I could have been better. Since we broke up, I've spent much less time on the computer. I'm working out, playing sports, hanging out with friends, and going on trips when I'm not at work. I realize now how much time I was wasting running imaginary basketball draft leagues, playing fantasy sports, or arguing that Josh Childress is a stud in waiting. So yes, I've always wanted a second chance with her, but that doesn't mean she's going to get free reign. This is a one shot deal if it ever gets that far and like I said before she'll have to pull her weight and then some. I guess, I just hate losing... hate not having the last word. I hated not having a say in when the relationship ended or where it went. I guess you could say this is also about giving myself the opportunity to end things on my terms if it comes to that. Give me the chance to decide if this is what I want. I guess that's why I never let go, that's why I'm determined to put myself out there again. I want to be the one to decide where this goes. It might seem like she has all the control, but believe me I'm ready and willing to cut ties.What's the worse that can happen? She leaves me for another guy? Been there done that. What's the upside? We live together happily ever after.What's likely to happen? We bone a few times and I break up with her or whatever joke you guys want to make. Who knows what will happen but I've already lived and survived through the worst outcome. There's nothing I fear anymore or than not knowing if we should have given it a second try.
 
I don't think being willing to give someone you love/loved a 2nd chance means weakness or self esteem issues. The moment I sense she's playing any games, I'm gone. I'm not going to get my heart shattered again.
And here lies the problem. She is playing games with you now, and you are coddling to her toying with you.
 
So how would you prevent a broken heart if it's 5 years from now and you're married and she cheats again?
I'll have to see if that's a risk worth taking.
Oh bull####. If she SNEEZED in a manner that sounded like she wanted you back you'd drop to all fours and scurry back and start licking the tops of her feet. You know it. We know it. She knows it. Quit pretending like you've ever had any real hand whatsoever in this situation. You're her lapdog... her backup plan. The guy who will always be there no matter how hard she kicks you in the balls, as long as she's willing to bat her eyes and say she's sowwy. The sooner you get your head out of your ### and accept that, the sooner you'll be able to make a halfway informed decision regarding this situation. Denying it doesn't make it any less true, so knock it off.
I'll admit, I always wanted a second chance with her, because looking back now I was boring and while I wasn't a completely lousy boyfriend I could have been better. Since we broke up, I've spent much less time on the computer. I'm working out, playing sports, hanging out with friends, and going on trips when I'm not at work. I realize now how much time I was wasting running imaginary basketball draft leagues, playing fantasy sports, or arguing that Josh Childress is a stud in waiting. So yes, I've always wanted a second chance with her, but that doesn't mean she's going to get free reign. This is a one shot deal if it ever gets that far and like I said before she'll have to pull her weight and then some. I guess, I just hate losing... hate not having the last word. I hated not having a say in when the relationship ended or where it went. I guess you could say this is also about giving myself the opportunity to end things on my terms if it comes to that. Give me the chance to decide if this is what I want. I guess that's why I never let go, that's why I'm determined to put myself out there again. I want to be the one to decide where this goes. It might seem like she has all the control, but believe me I'm ready and willing to cut ties.What's the worse that can happen? She leaves me for another guy? Been there done that. What's the upside? We live together happily ever after.What's likely to happen? We bone a few times and I break up with her or whatever joke you guys want to make. Who knows what will happen but I've already lived and survived through the worst outcome. There's nothing I fear anymore or than not knowing if we should have given it a second try.
sweet jeebus. you don't like to lose? you don't like to not have the last word? you hate not having a say in the relationship?you can solve all of those issues right now, and prevent from getting shat on even more. let. it. go. now. not tomorrow. not when she gets back. not after you get her in the sack. not after she asks if she can move back in. right. bleeping. now. take control of your own life. because as it stands, she holds all the cards. every decision you make revolves around what she may, or may not do to you in the future. sorry to be blunt, but damn.
 
I always wanted a second chance with her, because looking back now I was boring and while I wasn't a completely lousy boyfriend I could have been better.
You know, I could have sworn she was the one with a stranger's #### caressing her cervix while his sweat glistened as only a personal trainer's sweat could into her cleavage, sliding into her belly button, and further down only to lick it up with his graceful tongue. I seriously thought she was the one that decided that a multi year relationship was worth throwing away for a muscular ramrod of love. Apparently none of that is the case. It seems it was your fault all the time. You are so incredibly lucky that she's giving you a second chance to keep her lovebox warm until another more interesting guy comes along to fill it up.

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but you are the most delusional, love-struck, #####-whipped, desperate-for-relationship-havingest dude I may have ever seen. And that's putting it mildly.

 
I knew this was going to happen. I love getting to say "I TOLD YOU SO".

You two justed need to let your personalities run their course; and predictably, your paths cross time and time again. Those aren't coincidences, it's not the universe, it's not fate. It is two people needing each other.

The guys in this thread gave you a lot of good advice, and you followed some of it. But despite your attempts to fight it, your true nature always comes out in the end. You care too much about this girl to let her go despite what you WANT to feel.

Now, you can keep putzing around, wasting more time and "see where it goes". Or you can cut to the chase, be an adult and work on reconciling so the two of you can spend more time on a positive future instead of prodding at the bruises of your past. Although, the trend in this thread and your personality profile indicates that you'll take it slow. You're not ready to dive back into love yet, even though you'd enjoy this part of life so much more if you did.

 
What's the worse that can happen? She leaves me for another guy? Been there done that. What's the upside? We live together happily ever after.What's likely to happen? We bone a few times and I break up with her or whatever joke you guys want to make.
I don't think you've really plumbed the depths of the worst case scenarios. You might want to read some of the other failed romance threads around here for some examples. Just do a search for "start hiding money."I never thought I'd say this, but this is one thread that could use some Goggins.
 
Just to restate the seemingly obvious :

-She is currently and has been playing a game

-You are losing

-You can't win

You should sign up for training from the PT just to really #### yourself up some more.

 
So how would you prevent a broken heart if it's 5 years from now and you're married and she cheats again?
I'll have to see if that's a risk worth taking.
Oh bull####. If she SNEEZED in a manner that sounded like she wanted you back you'd drop to all fours and scurry back and start licking the tops of her feet. You know it. We know it. She knows it. Quit pretending like you've ever had any real hand whatsoever in this situation. You're her lapdog... her backup plan. The guy who will always be there no matter how hard she kicks you in the balls, as long as she's willing to bat her eyes and say she's sowwy. The sooner you get your head out of your ### and accept that, the sooner you'll be able to make a halfway informed decision regarding this situation. Denying it doesn't make it any less true, so knock it off.
I'll admit, I always wanted a second chance with her, because looking back now I was boring and while I wasn't a completely lousy boyfriend I could have been better. Since we broke up, I've spent much less time on the computer. I'm working out, playing sports, hanging out with friends, and going on trips when I'm not at work. I realize now how much time I was wasting running imaginary basketball draft leagues, playing fantasy sports, or arguing that Josh Childress is a stud in waiting. So yes, I've always wanted a second chance with her, but that doesn't mean she's going to get free reign. This is a one shot deal if it ever gets that far and like I said before she'll have to pull her weight and then some. I guess, I just hate losing... hate not having the last word. I hated not having a say in when the relationship ended or where it went. I guess you could say this is also about giving myself the opportunity to end things on my terms if it comes to that. Give me the chance to decide if this is what I want. I guess that's why I never let go, that's why I'm determined to put myself out there again. I want to be the one to decide where this goes. It might seem like she has all the control, but believe me I'm ready and willing to cut ties.What's the worse that can happen? She leaves me for another guy? Been there done that. What's the upside? We live together happily ever after.What's likely to happen? We bone a few times and I break up with her or whatever joke you guys want to make. Who knows what will happen but I've already lived and survived through the worst outcome. There's nothing I fear anymore or than not knowing if we should have given it a second try.
Have you considered that the worst that could happen is you propose in 2 years, get married, have 2 kids, you aren't as exciting as she wants you to be, she joins gym to lose baby fat, gets a personal trainer, has ANOTHER affair, you get divorced...she keeps your kids, half your money, you have a license to go meet other chicks now, but no car cause you your broke ### has to pay alimony and child support...and then your back to spending time running imaginary basketball leagues?You being boring is not a reason for her to cheat on you. Stop blaming yourself for her whoorish actions.
 
Wait. W. T. F.?!

You're taking her back and she's already going out of town with the dude she cheated on you / dumped you for?

Were you dropped on your head as a child? Repeatedly?

jesus christ no way anyone is actually this stupid.
This all came out of no where for the both of us. Just a few days before she was set to leave. She did seem very stressed when we talked and it wasn't just dealing with us. There was also no need to tell me about the vacation in the first place. She could have just gone out of town and not contacted me until she came back if she wanted truly wanted to string me along. Hell the way she broke it to me that she was going in vacation was with a text saying: "Now I don't want to go on this vacation I'm about to go on :( "Also, I think everyone has the wrong impression here. Saying I am taking her back now or we are getting back together is jumping the gun a bit. We just had some discussions about if we wanted to try and work things out. Neither of us has fully committed and said we're back together again, etc.

I'm open to the idea, willing to work it out, but I'm not going to put in more effort than her. I'm not going to chase her down or try to woo her again. Everything will sort itself out when she gets back for better or worse. In the mean time, I'll continue working on my OKcupid profile and just living my life like I have been the past 7 months.
Just want to also point out that you are not being honest with yourself here.If she shows up at your bus stop after work, and says "I want to give us another try" you jump in that second. No way you say no, or i will have to think about it.

 
Man, what a disappointing turn. I suppose we all assumed it would happen since you wouldn't let her go, but I held out hope that you were going to escape.

She's a bad person. Even with a DUI, you're better than her. Move on.

You needed her to show you that you were lame, but that doesn't mean you thank her for it. You thank the heavens that you learned something AND escaped this person so you could find someone better (preferably not a drug dealer from Hawaii).

 
Man, what a disappointing turn. I suppose we all assumed it would happen since you wouldn't let her go, but I held out hope that you were going to escape.She's a bad person. Even with a DUI, you're better than her. Move on.You needed her to show you that you were lame, but that doesn't mean you thank her for it. You thank the heavens that you learned something AND escaped this person so you could find someone better (preferably not a drug dealer from Hawaii).
:goodposting: The best way to show her how good of a person you are and can be is to be that better person to another more appreciative and respectful woman.
 
You being boring is not a reason for her to cheat on you. Stop blaming yourself for her whoorish actions.
Seriously. You need to acknowledge the fact that she cheated on her previous bf with you. Cheated on you with PT. Is cheating on PT with you. This pattern will not stop.Wake up. You're her doormat right now.The fact that your parents worked it out after "your father hid another son and an ex-wife from my mother for 5 years after they were married" is not the same situation you and Alyssa are in. It just isn't.Your father hid something in his past from your mother. Alyssa cheated on you just like she did all of her other bf's. There's no comparison to be made here.How is she marriage material? What do you think you're going to do to break her from this pattern? Have some self respect and walk away from this.
 
You being boring is not a reason for her to cheat on you. Stop blaming yourself for her whoorish actions.
Seriously. You need to acknowledge the fact that she cheated on her previous bf with you. Cheated on you with PT. Is cheating on PT with you. This pattern will not stop.Wake up. You're her doormat right now.The fact that your parents worked it out after "your father hid another son and an ex-wife from my mother for 5 years after they were married" is not the same situation you and Alyssa are in. It just isn't.Your father hid something in his past from your mother. Alyssa cheated on you just like she did all of her other bf's. There's no comparison to be made here.How is she marriage material? What do you think you're going to do to break her from this pattern? Have some self respect and walk away from this.
:goodposting:He won't be able to break her from this pattern. But, he'll know when something is up. He'll just know.
 
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You being boring is not a reason for her to cheat on you. Stop blaming yourself for her whoorish actions.
Seriously. You need to acknowledge the fact that she cheated on her previous bf with you. Cheated on you with PT. Is cheating on PT with you. This pattern will not stop.Wake up. You're her doormat right now.The fact that your parents worked it out after "your father hid another son and an ex-wife from my mother for 5 years after they were married" is not the same situation you and Alyssa are in. It just isn't.Your father hid something in his past from your mother. Alyssa cheated on you just like she did all of her other bf's. There's no comparison to be made here.How is she marriage material? What do you think you're going to do to break her from this pattern? Have some self respect and walk away from this.
cheated on previous bf with 16, cheated with PT on 16, i guess she is cheating on PT now getting fingered by 16? and worst part....these are only the ones 16 knows about.
 
I've never seen a thread that deserved so many :goodposting: smilies that was so totally ignored by the OP. I think a very small part of this is also that #16 wants to prove us all wrong. He knows her better than we do. She is better than we are making her out to be. Now, that might be, but it is hardly a reason to fall back into the trap and risk another heartbreak. There is a better woman out there. She's not "the one"

 
Oh bull####. If she SNEEZED in a manner that sounded like she wanted you back you'd drop to all fours and scurry back and start licking the tops of her feet. You know it. We know it. She knows it. Quit pretending like you've ever had any real hand whatsoever in this situation.
This is shooting it straight. :goodposting: 16, you need to go back through this entire thread and try to count how many times you've contradicted your ballsy proclamations (bring a calculator). It was a little stunning to read your impression that she "made a mistake and realized it immediately."

Here's one outsider impression of what you've described: She was bored with you, so she hooked up with a new shiny toy and left you. It wasn't fleeting. She tried to set up your GB's girl with PT's friend IMHO to strengthen the PT relationship months later. She's still seeing him. She's on a 2nd vacation with him (how can we forget the anniversary vacation). She no doubt told you she's the one questioning the PT relationship. More likely, the PT is nowhere near as spellbound as you, and she's uncomfortable not having him wrapped around her finger, so she needs a safety net while she rides the PT trapeze. Hell, for all you know you were merely stroking her ego heading into this trip. I also don't believe for a second she didn't have sex with you due to a STD concern. More likely, just an excuse so she could tell herself she wasn't having real sex behind the PT's back.

JMHO, you will be used while she keeps prospecting. She'll tell you things to pacify you while she "takes it slow" or, better put, bides her time. Of course she'll downplay the relations with PT or whomever else - I think it's naive for you to buy her version of this current trip. Eventually sure, maybe you'll attempt a hard stance here or there and consider it a victory, but you'll never drop her. Not in a million years. If it is obvious to a board of strangers, she knows. You'll be right back there lapping it up when she bats an eyelash your direction. It's honestly hard for me to fathom what she would need to do to lose you if she hasn't already.

Only possibility of you getting a straight honest to God 411 from her at this point is if you, she and the PT happen to be confined in the same room and she is forced to pick the story she's going with. Her nightmare scenario, I'm sure.

 
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She must have a little red cape above her P with am S on it as I cannot imagine any woman who did this worth a second chance without a superman caped P. is she that good in bed?

 
I always wanted a second chance with her, because looking back now I was boring and while I wasn't a completely lousy boyfriend I could have been better.
You know, I could have sworn she was the one with a stranger's #### caressing her cervix while his sweat glistened as only a personal trainer's sweat could into her cleavage, sliding into her belly button, and further down only to lick it up with his graceful tongue. I seriously thought she was the one that decided that a multi year relationship was worth throwing away for a muscular ramrod of love. Apparently none of that is the case. It seems it was your fault all the time. You are so incredibly lucky that she's giving you a second chance to keep her lovebox warm until another more interesting guy comes along to fill it up.

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but you are the most delusional, love-struck, #####-whipped, desperate-for-relationship-havingest dude I may have ever seen. And that's putting it mildly.
:goodposting:
 
Did we ever get any pics of this chick 16 is obsessed with? If not, you got way too much mileage out of this thread.
Nope. Been barking up that tree for months, to no avail. On other boards 16 would've been tarred and feathered by now for not posting a pic. 16, this would all go a lot better if you just posted a pic.
 
Did we ever get any pics of this chick 16 is obsessed with? If not, you got way too much mileage out of this thread.
Nope. Been barking up that tree for months, to no avail. On other boards 16 would've been tarred and feathered by now for not posting a pic. 16, this would all go a lot better if you just posted a pic.
16. Post a pic but X out her face. Please. Would make it easier for us to understand. Plus I don't want a face Pic cuz I don't want to imagine where PT's load landed. Eyeball, ear, nose, dome, pooled in dimple......Yuck. Just too much for me to visualize as I could NEVER look at her face again without thinking about that EVERY time. . So body pic with no face.
 
So how would you prevent a broken heart if it's 5 years from now and you're married and she cheats again?
I'll have to see if that's a risk worth taking.
Oh bull####. If she SNEEZED in a manner that sounded like she wanted you back you'd drop to all fours and scurry back and start licking the tops of her feet. You know it. We know it. She knows it. Quit pretending like you've ever had any real hand whatsoever in this situation. You're her lapdog... her backup plan. The guy who will always be there no matter how hard she kicks you in the balls, as long as she's willing to bat her eyes and say she's sowwy. The sooner you get your head out of your ### and accept that, the sooner you'll be able to make a halfway informed decision regarding this situation. Denying it doesn't make it any less true, so knock it off.
but believe me I'm ready and willing to cut ties.
:bs: She's already playing with your head again and you can't see it.
 
"If you let a woman cross one boundary, she will eventually cross them all. The reason for why she actually crosses those boundaries become unimportant. Who cares about some old piece of trim that no one will want when she's 35, the real problem is you are creating a situation where you are helping to erode the boundaries in your relationship. If you are still pining over some #### from the past, you are focusing on the wrong thing."

"If you want the answer as to why your ex girlfriend isn't with you now, it's because she doesn't love you as much as you love her. It really is that simple, man. "

--- GordonGekko

 
Your tough talk about going rafting and to Vegas is an absolute and complete joke. You won't make a single move towards getting laid until lady coral tells you that she's ready to let you back into her life. I doubt you'll even whack off without her permission.

Did you tell her about the coke whore and Susan? Is that why she thinks you have ¡La SIDA! If you did, that right there says exactly who is running the show. Her.

I'd feel bad for you dude, but you seem to want to get ####ed over. AGAIN.

You shoulda taken my advice and found a sweet hog that would have shown you what real love feels like. She would have worshipped your squirmy little dancing ###. She would have probably been the only thing that might have swayed you from your date with serial philananderer. You are going to waste years of your life going down this road. You already have. Cheers.

 
So how would you prevent a broken heart if it's 5 years from now and you're married and she cheats again?
I'll have to see if that's a risk worth taking.
Oh bull####. If she SNEEZED in a manner that sounded like she wanted you back you'd drop to all fours and scurry back and start licking the tops of her feet. You know it. We know it. She knows it. Quit pretending like you've ever had any real hand whatsoever in this situation. You're her lapdog... her backup plan. The guy who will always be there no matter how hard she kicks you in the balls, as long as she's willing to bat her eyes and say she's sowwy. The sooner you get your head out of your ### and accept that, the sooner you'll be able to make a halfway informed decision regarding this situation. Denying it doesn't make it any less true, so knock it off.
I'll admit, I always wanted a second chance with her, because looking back now I was boring and while I wasn't a completely lousy boyfriend I could have been better. Since we broke up, I've spent much less time on the computer. I'm working out, playing sports, hanging out with friends, and going on trips when I'm not at work. I realize now how much time I was wasting running imaginary basketball draft leagues, playing fantasy sports, or arguing that Josh Childress is a stud in waiting. So yes, I've always wanted a second chance with her, but that doesn't mean she's going to get free reign. This is a one shot deal if it ever gets that far and like I said before she'll have to pull her weight and then some. I guess, I just hate losing... hate not having the last word. I hated not having a say in when the relationship ended or where it went. I guess you could say this is also about giving myself the opportunity to end things on my terms if it comes to that. Give me the chance to decide if this is what I want. I guess that's why I never let go, that's why I'm determined to put myself out there again. I want to be the one to decide where this goes. It might seem like she has all the control, but believe me I'm ready and willing to cut ties.What's the worse that can happen? She leaves me for another guy? Been there done that. What's the upside? We live together happily ever after.What's likely to happen? We bone a few times and I break up with her or whatever joke you guys want to make. Who knows what will happen but I've already lived and survived through the worst outcome. There's nothing I fear anymore or than not knowing if we should have given it a second try.
You sound like a beaten wife who's in complete denial about her abusive husband.
 
I swear I'm beginning to think No. 16 is a Woz alias. Like he decided to create an extreme example of himself that follows all of his wrong impulses.

No. 16 makes Woz look like Clint Eastwood.

 
I'll admit, I always wanted a second chance with her, because looking back now I was boring and while I wasn't a completely lousy boyfriend I could have been better. Since we broke up, I've spent much less time on the computer. I'm working out, playing sports, hanging out with friends, and going on trips when I'm not at work. I realize now how much time I was wasting running imaginary basketball draft leagues, playing fantasy sports, or arguing that Josh Childress is a stud in waiting. So yes, I've always wanted a second chance with her, but that doesn't mean she's going to get free reign. This is a one shot deal if it ever gets that far and like I said before she'll have to pull her weight and then some. I guess, I just hate losing... hate not having the last word. I hated not having a say in when the relationship ended or where it went. I guess you could say this is also about giving myself the opportunity to end things on my terms if it comes to that. Give me the chance to decide if this is what I want. I guess that's why I never let go, that's why I'm determined to put myself out there again. I want to be the one to decide where this goes. It might seem like she has all the control, but believe me I'm ready and willing to cut ties.What's the worse that can happen? She leaves me for another guy? Been there done that. What's the upside? We live together happily ever after.What's likely to happen? We bone a few times and I break up with her or whatever joke you guys want to make. Who knows what will happen but I've already lived and survived through the worst outcome. There's nothing I fear anymore or than not knowing if we should have given it a second try.
Now that I think about it, this post sounds like she's back from vacation and they are already back together.
 
I'll admit, I always wanted a second chance with her, because looking back now I was boring and while I wasn't a completely lousy boyfriend I could have been better. Since we broke up, I've spent much less time on the computer. I'm working out, playing sports, hanging out with friends, and going on trips when I'm not at work. I realize now how much time I was wasting running imaginary basketball draft leagues, playing fantasy sports, or arguing that Josh Childress is a stud in waiting. So yes, I've always wanted a second chance with her, but that doesn't mean she's going to get free reign. This is a one shot deal if it ever gets that far and like I said before she'll have to pull her weight and then some. I guess, I just hate losing... hate not having the last word. I hated not having a say in when the relationship ended or where it went. I guess you could say this is also about giving myself the opportunity to end things on my terms if it comes to that. Give me the chance to decide if this is what I want. I guess that's why I never let go, that's why I'm determined to put myself out there again. I want to be the one to decide where this goes. It might seem like she has all the control, but believe me I'm ready and willing to cut ties.What's the worse that can happen? She leaves me for another guy? Been there done that. What's the upside? We live together happily ever after.What's likely to happen? We bone a few times and I break up with her or whatever joke you guys want to make. Who knows what will happen but I've already lived and survived through the worst outcome. There's nothing I fear anymore or than not knowing if we should have given it a second try.
Now that I think about it, this post sounds like she's back from vacation and they are already back together.
In 16's world, they are back together. Check that, they have always been together, never broke up.
 
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First off what are the dog pics?
:lmao:
You should send her only one more text. Ever. And it should be this :Stage a succession of photos that make it appear as if you are abusing the dog something awful. Of course, you won't be, but let's make her think you are. Some suggestions :1) Hold the dog up in front of a white wall, holding him by his back leg, face down, out at a 90 degree angle from your body. Then, take a picture of a particularly steep and rocky cliff. Shouldn't be hard to find in the bay area. Hell, use the Golden Gate Bridge. A little Photoshop magic and you're dangling that mutt over his ultimate demise. Ahhh... mental torture. Now, let's step up the insanity.2) A picture of you naked behind the dog, but using the dog to cover your genitals. Hold the dog facing the camera, as you will be, waist-high. Have a joy buzzer mounted to your abdomen and use it to shock the dog's posterior right as the camera snaps. That should be sufficient to get the dog to make the surprised look that will make your ex think you're sliding good ol' Mr. Johnson right up little Frisky's s--t shooter. Of course, you throw your head back in "ecstasy" at the same time. Voila - you're banging the dog! But not really. Next....3) Get a few different colored paints. Dab some cotton balls in the various colors and then blot them on the dog's side, head, etc. Then set the dog down and have someone off-camera call for him. As he runs through the frame, snap a photo of him running, while you are your friends stand around pointing (empty) paint ball guns at him. Now she thinks you're inviting people over and blasting away at the dog with paint guns. Now for the piece de resistance...4) Put on a wrestling unitard, or whatever they call those stupid things. Give the dog a bowlful of hydrogen peroxide with some red food coloring in it. The dog will drink some of it, which will cause him to throw up not long afterward. It won't hurt him, it's actually what vets recommend you do if the dog accidentally eats chocolate or something harmful. But the red food coloring is key. This way, when the dog does spew blood red foam from its mouth, you pick it up and hold it around the stomach, wearing the unitard. Make your best Hulk Hogan-esque face as you gently hold the dog around its midsection and it will appear as if you're squeezing the hell out of it. The red foam and mist coming from the dog will make it look like you're crushing its internal organs.Now, send those 4 photos in a slideshow to the ex. The SECOND you send them, put through the call/text/e-mail block so she can't get a hold of you. She may call your folks' house, so immediately put an outgoing message on their phone, something like :(creepiest, most sinister voice you can muster) : "Sorry, we're not home right now. I've got some..... business to attend to...... MWUHAHAHAHA !!!" At this point, play the sound clip of a whimpering, injured dog you pulled off the internet. After you leave that outgoing message, take the dog out for a fun day in the park.... but not before dipping its feet in the red paint and leaving a few "bloody footprints" on the front walk, just in case she comes by.Game, set, match, No. 16.
 
Here's one outsider impression of what you've described: She was bored with you, so she hooked up with a new shiny toy and left you. It wasn't fleeting. She tried to set up your GB's girl with PT's friend IMHO to strengthen the PT relationship months later. She's still seeing him. She's on a 2nd vacation with him (how can we forget the anniversary vacation). She no doubt told you she's the one questioning the PT relationship. More likely, the PT is nowhere near as spellbound as you, and she's uncomfortable not having him wrapped around her finger, so she needs a safety net while she rides the PT trapeze. Hell, for all you know you were merely stroking her ego heading into this trip. I also don't believe for a second she didn't have sex with you due to a STD concern. More likely, just an excuse so she could tell herself she wasn't having real sex behind the PT's back.
This is spot on IMO.
 
Never told her about what I have done since we've been apart. She just assumes I have some sick game.
No, she's projecting. When your ex says that you're probably nailing girls left and right, what she's really saying is that she's getting drilled like the Arabian peninsula.
 
Never told her about what I have done since we've been apart. She just assumes I have some sick game.
:thumbup: She may not believe you're the stud you're hoping but it at least might put some doubt in her mind. Since you insist on communicating with her, next time she sends you a text at night ignore it until the morning.

In the mean time, I'll continue working on my OKcupid profile and just living my life like I have been the past 7 months.
What does working on the profile mean? Is it still not complete? That thing takes an hour at most to set up. Is it set up and you mean pursuing dates? In some ways living life as you have the past 7 months is a great idea. In other ways that's pathetic. You need to sleep with 8 new women before the year is done. That's approximately a new one every 3 weeks. Means you're going to need to go on 20+ dates. Which means you're going to need to ask out a lot of women. Which means you need meet a lot of women. Which means you're going to need to find a way to meet said women. You're not going to find that many chicks at the local grocery store. Bars are crap for this. You need to get crackin' on the okcupid angle.Let's pretend you still want the ex. That's stupid, but it is what it is. What's going to help your cause is seemingly have other women fight over you while you explore your numerous options. Only one way you can achieve that - get numerous options. Only one way that can happen - lots of dates. You might go on a dates and realize your ex truly is amazing and you want her back. Or you might find the future Mrs. No. 16 and realize you're better without your ex. But stop making excuses with the DUI/living at home stuff. Some women won't give you the time of day. But you're in the Bay Area - there are literally thousands of women eager to land a decent guy. Young chicks who don't know any better, mid 20's chicks looking to still party, women approaching their 30's desperate to land a guy before their ovaries dry up, and freshly divorced women looking for love.

And one last thing that might stick with you (because nothing else seems to be getting through): you're an addict. Let's face it - coming back for seconds after you've been so thoroughly kicked? It doesn't make any logical sense. You're an addict and you need help. My link

 
She must have a little red cape above her P with am S on it as I cannot imagine any woman who did this worth a second chance without a superman caped P. is she that good in bed?
She probably is now! Just think of all the new positions/tricks the PT taught her!
 
Well buddy, thanks for diminishing my past girl idiocy on this board. I appreciate that. :thumbup:

Look, I get where you're at with this girl. She has called all the shots so far and you've called none. She appeared to leave without much hurt and you're left wondering where it all went and what you did wrong. She is also the first girl you ever loved so you don't know that that same feeling is still possible with someone else. So that panicked feeling of loss with no say in it is what you're confusing for love (disclaimer: I don't quite know how you got here past the fact that she cheated on you bc no way it would have taken me more than one day to get over wozex as opposed to like two years if she had cheated, but I'll ignore that for now). I confused that demasculinating feeling of loss without control for love so much so that there was a point where if I was offered the choice to spend one more month with her in exchange for ten years off my life I would have seriously considered it. It's the same irrational drive to get ones pride back that you're going through bc up until that point for me and this point for you the most proud we have been has been those wonderful moments in bed where the hottest chick you've seen is letting you do what you want with her. It's not love it's pride and, unlike me, you actually seem smart enough to somewhat realize this. Yet you still want to go back w a cheater.

 
Well buddy, thanks for diminishing my past girl idiocy on this board. I appreciate that. :thumbup:

Look, I get where you're at with this girl. She has called all the shots so far and you've called none. She appeared to leave without much hurt and you're left wondering where it all went and what you did wrong. She is also the first girl you ever loved so you don't know that that same feeling is still possible with someone else. So that panicked feeling of loss with no say in it is what you're confusing for love (disclaimer: I don't quite know how you got here past the fact that she cheated on you bc no way it would have taken me more than one day to get over wozex as opposed to like two years if she had cheated, but I'll ignore that for now). I confused that demasculinating feeling of loss without control for love so much so that there was a point where if I was offered the choice to spend one more month with her in exchange for ten years off my life I would have seriously considered it. It's the same irrational drive to get ones pride back that you're going through bc up until that point for me and this point for you the most proud we have been has been those wonderful moments in bed where the hottest chick you've seen is letting you do what you want with her. It's not love it's pride and, unlike me, you actually seem smart enough to somewhat realize this. Yet you still want to go back w a cheater.
3 times over (that we know about)
 
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Now, I'll tell you how to get that pride back by first telling you how it won't happen: by being back with her. That's bc it will never be the same. For you you know she cheated and for her you're the fall back and at this point you really can't change that. You fell for a whore (happens to the vest of us) and that dynamic ain't changing.

So how do you get that pride back? Do what is necessary to sleep with any chock you're mildly attracted to. Get to the point where while you are railing one another is texting you pictures of her ### and another one is begging you to come over - which you'll delay long enough to get your workout or ballgame in and strategically get there late enough to just what you want from her and get out. Does this sound scummy? I once thought so but surprisingly, if you're open and honest about it, you'll be seen as simply taking proper advantage of girls like your ex. It's also pretty damn vindicating when girls get to the point where they aren't in your top ten priorities and, when this happens, you'll surprisingly meet some girl who you actually want around all the time not bc you need it for pride but bc you actually want her with you.

So go on, treat the ex for what she is and let her unknowingly taste some other chick on you bc you were too busy to shower. It'll take some time to get to this point, but taking this chick seriously right now is only a regression.

 

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