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this is because of the ball. Isnt the college FG record longer than the pros?If i was the colts i would have conceded the kickoff at the 40 every time. I would have kicked it out of bounds. They couldnt stop NE return game. Why would they stop the bears?I don't see why any team ever kicks to the returner. Coffin corner on punts down? Kickoff out of the endzone down (this one is really strange; these kickers can put it through the uprights in college from the 35 = 80+yds, yet back 'em up 5yds to the 30 in the pros and they barely reach the goalline = 70yds)?
Not joking, I am being serious.If you would do this, would you consider on side kick everytime?this is because of the ball. Isnt the college FG record longer than the pros?I don't see why any team ever kicks to the returner. Coffin corner on punts down? Kickoff out of the endzone down (this one is really strange; these kickers can put it through the uprights in college from the 35 = 80+yds, yet back 'em up 5yds to the 30 in the pros and they barely reach the goalline = 70yds)?
If i was the colts i would have conceded the kickoff at the 40 every time. I would have kicked it out of bounds. They couldnt stop NE return game. Why would they stop the bears?
FYI i said it right from the get go, not after the fact.
That is a very interesting thought. That is a big swing though. Give it to them at the 40 and they have to move the ball quite a bit to get into FG range. Give it to them at the other 40 and they just need one first down.Not joking, I am being serious.If you would do this, would you consider on side kick everytime?this is because of the ball. Isnt the college FG record longer than the pros?I don't see why any team ever kicks to the returner. Coffin corner on punts down? Kickoff out of the endzone down (this one is really strange; these kickers can put it through the uprights in college from the 35 = 80+yds, yet back 'em up 5yds to the 30 in the pros and they barely reach the goalline = 70yds)?
If i was the colts i would have conceded the kickoff at the 40 every time. I would have kicked it out of bounds. They couldnt stop NE return game. Why would they stop the bears?
FYI i said it right from the get go, not after the fact.
At least you get a shot a recovering the ball.
out of bounds= ball at the
CHI 40
Depending on the onside kick ball will most likely be around midfield.
If you watched the Patriots game. The Colts coverage was horrible, including punts, and that was not going against the best return man in the NFL. I missed the kickoff, but got downstairs in time for the replay after my wife yelled. I remember after the Wayne TD, that I told my wife that they should just squib kick to the up backs. They did and got a fumble out of it.I voted that they should have gone squib kicks from the start, because I believed that the Colts defense would do exactly what they did, stop the Bears offense. The Colts defense is built to stop the big play and to be honest, the only thing that I think Grossman has done well this year was the big play. Until 7 minutes left in the game, the Bears had 1 drive of more than 20 yards, and 52 of those 57 yards were on one play. Up until 7 minutes to play, the Colts had 5 drives of 47-80 yards.It seemed like his huge games early in the season were long bombs to Berrian. I didn't think that Grossman could sustain drives and he couldn't. I think yesterday's game is a stark example of the difference between a franchise type QB that can do what needs to be done versus a QB that can't alter their style of play.If I were the Bears, I would be working on grooming a franchise type QB, because they need one. Maybe Grossman improves, but he has been in the league 4 years. In fact even though people say that this was his first starting year, he has played in more games than Philip Rivers and I don't think anyone is questioning Rivers as the future QB in San Diego.
I know, but if you give up 1 or 2 FG's, you also have the other hand where you can get the ball in great position.That is a very interesting thought. That is a big swing though. Give it to them at the 40 and they have to move the ball quite a bit to get into FG range. Give it to them at the other 40 and they just need one first down.Not joking, I am being serious.If you would do this, would you consider on side kick everytime?this is because of the ball. Isnt the college FG record longer than the pros?I don't see why any team ever kicks to the returner. Coffin corner on punts down? Kickoff out of the endzone down (this one is really strange; these kickers can put it through the uprights in college from the 35 = 80+yds, yet back 'em up 5yds to the 30 in the pros and they barely reach the goalline = 70yds
If i was the colts i would have conceded the kickoff at the 40 every time. I would have kicked it out of bounds. They couldnt stop NE return game. Why would they stop the bears?
FYI i said it right from the get go, not after the fact.
At least you get a shot a recovering the ball.
out of bounds= ball at the
CHI 40
Depending on the onside kick ball will most likely be around midfield.
No this is just silly. The Bears offense was bad but they're not that bad. Grossman looked ok at times but seemed to struggle with the deep ball (which from my understanding is the Bears biggest strength on offense). You give the ball to the Bears at your own 40 or midfield, Grossman (or any NFL qb) will have a field day. The Colts played it right.....Not joking, I am being serious.If you would do this, would you consider on side kick everytime?this is because of the ball. Isnt the college FG record longer than the pros?I don't see why any team ever kicks to the returner. Coffin corner on punts down? Kickoff out of the endzone down (this one is really strange; these kickers can put it through the uprights in college from the 35 = 80+yds, yet back 'em up 5yds to the 30 in the pros and they barely reach the goalline = 70yds
If i was the colts i would have conceded the kickoff at the 40 every time. I would have kicked it out of bounds. They couldnt stop NE return game. Why would they stop the bears?
FYI i said it right from the get go, not after the fact.
At least you get a shot a recovering the ball.
out of bounds= ball at the
CHI 40
Depending on the onside kick ball will most likely be around midfield.
Yeah but the Colts were moving the ball just fine against the Bears. They didn't need great field position to score. Why give the Bears any chance at all?I know, but if you give up 1 or 2 FG's, you also have the other hand where you can get the ball in great position.That is a very interesting thought. That is a big swing though. Give it to them at the 40 and they have to move the ball quite a bit to get into FG range. Give it to them at the other 40 and they just need one first down.Not joking, I am being serious.If you would do this, would you consider on side kick everytime?this is because of the ball. Isnt the college FG record longer than the pros?I don't see why any team ever kicks to the returner. Coffin corner on punts down? Kickoff out of the endzone down (this one is really strange; these kickers can put it through the uprights in college from the 35 = 80+yds, yet back 'em up 5yds to the 30 in the pros and they barely reach the goalline = 70yds)?
If i was the colts i would have conceded the kickoff at the 40 every time. I would have kicked it out of bounds. They couldnt stop NE return game. Why would they stop the bears?
FYI i said it right from the get go, not after the fact.
At least you get a shot a recovering the ball.
out of bounds= ball at the
CHI 40
Depending on the onside kick ball will most likely be around midfield.
they start at the 40..
I saw that one time as CBS zoomed in on Hester as an up back and they booted it deep. I assume that the Colts probably had it in their game plan to squib kicks and probably practiced it just because they definitely noticed when the Bears moved Hester.If I am GB, Minny or Detroit, I am working hard this off season to find a kick off specialist. I think if you take Hester out of play on kickoffs, that you probably have a real good chance of really limiting Chicago's offense. Not saying that Chicago won't be in the playoffs next year, but I think it would be worth the effort. Even when the Colts tried to kick it deep, it didn't go anywhere near the end zone.Told the wife I would have angle kicked it to the sidelines. If it goes out of bounds
Most of the squib kicks ended up there or closer to the 50 any ways.
I know there was the one fumble recovery so that helped the odds a bit, but I still would have just said: "Fine Rexy, you get the ball at the 40, but Hester is NOT going to be the game breaker".
I LOVED how the Colts must have had someone spoting for the rest of the kickoffs. If hester was up, they kicked it deep. If he was deep they squibbed it.
Dungy's entire gameplan on offense and special teams was extremely conservative. I questioned a few of his calls (not going for it on 4th down at the Bears 36 yd line, the first squib kick, not going for the fg to completely put the game away at the end) but they turned out to be brilliant coaching. He had absolutely no fear in the Bears offense and limited the probability of losing on a fluke play. He did exactly what a good coach is supposed to do.
Funny, because if you think about it, that makes sense to me.Hester's TD on the OPENING kickoff was the first ever. That means every other one was later on in the game.Statistics would say that the team receiving more kickoffs has a greater chance to return one for a TD. Well guess which team would receive more kickoffs during a game? The one who has been scored upon more, i.e. the losing team. Also, it would mean one less drive for the offense, which means potentially tiring out the defense more (see Bears 2/4/07). It may be a little surprising that the record is 1-7, but at best I would expect it to be a losing record of say 3-5 or 2-6, so 1-7 isn't too far off. If it were 4-4 or better, then that would be interesting because it would almost say that the kick return for a TD had a bigger psychological impact overriding the expected.
Jermaine Lewis and Desmond Howard both returned kickoffs for TDs. Off the top of my head, I only remember Tim Dwight (ATL), Hester and Ron Dixon doing it, so that's 2-3.
Hi pizza,It looks like it only took Tony Dungy about 15 seconds to start agreeing with you there.
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I would have just kicked all touchbacks.
The problem is that AV doesn't have the leg to kick it through the endzone.I would have just kicked all touchbacks.
Maybe not, but it is still true that if you kick to him there is still a chance he could return it, and if you don't kick to him, there is no chance he can return it.
Yes, but the chance isn't any different after he returned one; if you believe the chance of him returning it is high enough that you want to avoid it, you should know that before the game and never kick to him. If you don't believe the chances are high enough, you should know that before the game and kick to him all game.
