If you were in charge of SF (1 Viewer)

[Dr. Awesome]

If you could make the call, which qb would you roll out for next week? It's up to you whether you feel this team can still win the division or is out of it. Whether you'd tank for a high pick or try to claw your way to a win.

Alex Smith at times looks very good. Those times are rare and he usually looks like crap.

David Carr looked decent in NY. But has really, really, sucked for most of his career.

Nate Davis looks promising, but is extremely raw. SF cut him in the preseason and no other team wanted him.

Troy Smith. Not too sure what to say about this one.

Other - wildcat? Sign JP Losman and pray he sucks slightly less? Garcia?

 

[Lash]

Vick or Kolb

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Vick or Kolb

I really doubt the Eagles would trade Kolb, and Vick won't be ready to play next week. Nevermind the whole making a trade that soon and having the qb learn enough to be relevant.

 

[TheChairman]

Hold some open tryouts. Be sure to advertise heavily so more than 3 people show up.

 

[DoubleG]

Last night Alex Smith showed two things:

1) He can hit his receivers.

2) With the new OC, he can hit Crabtree and Davis.

That should work.

 

[gotexansgo]

Either Nate Davis or Troy Smith, I voted for Davis as I see him having a higher ceiling. Both would likely suck but they would at least get a high pick. Alex Smith will do just enough to keep his job and get the 49ers somewhere at the bottom of the top 10. Barring a miracle happening and Davis looking competent, draft Andrew Luck/Jake Locker/Ryan Mallet early in the draft and hope they pan out better then Alex Smith.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I voted for Nate Davis. For starters, I don't think it will be a bad idea to bench Alex and send a very clear message. He seems to play better when there's pressure. If Davis blows chunks Smith can be the second half hero.

Two, Davis imo has shown a lot of promise. He seems dumb as a rock but he seems to have a swagger this team needs.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Smith and hope to draft an elite qb.

 

[Max Power]

How are you guys voting for a week 6 starter who isn't even on the roster?

 

[hbkhbk]

Bring back Tim Rattay

 

[gotexansgo]

How are you guys voting for a week 6 starter who isn't even on the roster?

He's on the practice squad, thats good enough for me.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

For those of you voting for Smith...why?

Have you watched the last 6 years?

 

[DocHolliday]

I voted for Alex Smith because that is the best that SF has. David Carr? He would be pulled after 2 quarters. He has been a backup for so long because he is a back up.

The SF problems are not just at QB. The Oline is weak. The WR corp is weak. The play calling is "off". I cannot put a finger on it, but the offense never seems to look comfortable or get into a rythem.

 

[riggidy]

I would go find Jeff Garcia for cheap

Hoping to draft an elite qb who can start is what got them in this situation in the first place

 

[emge]

Smith and hope to draft an elite qb.

Can the 49ers end up with the 1st pick in the draft?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I voted for Alex Smith because that is the best that SF has. David Carr? He would be pulled after 2 quarters. He has been a backup for so long because he is a back up. The SF problems are not just at QB. The Oline is weak. The WR corp is weak. The play calling is "off". I cannot put a finger on it, but the offense never seems to look comfortable or get into a rythem.

It's amazing how much stronger these other positions would look if had a qb who did not suck.

 

[trader jake]

If you were Alex Smith, which head coach/offensive coordinator would you like to see brought in?

 

[OMG! Ponies!]

Luck?

 

[Da Guru]

I thought I heard that Alex Smoth has had 5 OCs already in his short career. How can a guy grow and mature in an offense with constant change going on? Plus Singletary is a horriible HC as well. It is no wonder he struggles at times.

 

[CalBear]

I voted for Alex Smith because that is the best that SF has. David Carr? He would be pulled after 2 quarters. He has been a backup for so long because he is a back up. The SF problems are not just at QB. The Oline is weak. The WR corp is weak. The play calling is "off". I cannot put a finger on it, but the offense never seems to look comfortable or get into a rythem.

Carr's only been a backup for three years. But I agree that he is unlikely to be a solution for the Niners.The solution for the Niners is to change the ownership to a group which is willing to admit mistakes.

 

[CalBear]

I thought I heard that Alex Smoth has had 5 OCs already in his short career. How can a guy grow and mature in an offense with constant change going on? Plus Singletary is a horriible HC as well. It is no wonder he struggles at times.

Why is constant change going on? Because the offense sucks. Why does the offense suck? Because the QB sucks. Why does the OC change instead of the QB? Because the ownership refuses to admit they made a mistake drafting Smith #1 overall. Johnson is actually Smith's seventh offensive coordinator. There are two constants in his time in SF: Smith is the QB, and the offense sucks. Did all seven OCs suck?

 

[Slevin Kelevra]

Giovanni Carmazzi

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I thought I heard that Alex Smoth has had 5 OCs already in his short career. How can a guy grow and mature in an offense with constant change going on? Plus Singletary is a horriible HC as well. It is no wonder he struggles at times.

Why is constant change going on? Because the offense sucks. Why does the offense suck? Because the QB sucks. Why does the OC change instead of the QB? Because the ownership refuses to admit they made a mistake drafting Smith #1 overall. Johnson is actually Smith's seventh offensive coordinator. There are two constants in his time in SF: Smith is the QB, and the offense sucks. Did all seven OCs suck?

In fairness, yes, most of them have sucked. Norv Turner and Martz are the only two who didn't make me ask wtf was wrong with my team. Smith looked solid under Turner and iirc missed the year with Martz.

 

[butcher boy]

For those of you voting for Smith...why? Have you watched the last 6 years?

Have you watched Smith's backup play at all over the last few years?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

For those of you voting for Smith...why? Have you watched the last 6 years?

Have you watched Smith's backup play at all over the last few years?

I voted for Nate Davis. I've watched him in the preseason. I'd like to watch him in the regular season. What's the worst that can happen...he gives the team another loss?

 

[Chase Stuart]

I'd go with Davis or Smith. I like Davis more, but Smith might be more ready immediately.

 

[mdlane]

I voted Nate Davis. To my recollection, he looked promising in the preseason, and the only strike against him was that Singletary blasted his work ethic and readiness.

Well, I'm not entirely confident in Singletary's ability to measure a player's readiness, particularly at the QB position.

I am also skeptical of Singletary's evaluation of a QB in the 2010 preseason - given that he intentionally and admittedly traded away/avoided trading for any QB that could challenge Alex Smith. It makes sense that Singletary would torpedo expectations re: Nate Davis to avoid a preseason controversy.

I would like to see what Nate Davis has before we head into the 2011 offseason looking to either trade for or draft a new starting QB.

 

[footballnerd]

Next week Alex Smith, in the very very near future this year Nate Davis.

 

[CalBear]

In fairness, yes, most of them have sucked. Norv Turner and Martz are the only two who didn't make me ask wtf was wrong with my team. Smith looked solid under Turner and iirc missed the year with Martz.

Smith under Turner: 58.1% completions, 16 TD 16 INT in 16 games. 6.5 yards/attempt, #20 in the league, 4.8 ANY/A, #22 in the league. SF offense, #29 in passing offense, #25 in passing TDs. If that's what passes for "solid" in San Francisco, it's no wonder they haven't had a winning season since 2002.

 

[yrforyg]

Alex Smith is a good quarterback on a badly coached team.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Alex Smith is a good quarterback on a badly coached team.

What has lead you to this conclusion?

 

[butcher boy]

Nate Davis is not an NFL QB. He is not an option here. He has a learning disability that prevented him from learning the playbook. His skill as an NFL head coach is limited to throwing bombs against 3rd string defenses.

 

[drew726]

This season is done with, we know Carr and troy Smith's ceiling, they wont bring us to the playoffs. We know Alex Smith's ceiling is good enough to win assuming he get rid of his mistakes (huge assumption). I say let him try to dig out of the hole for this season and draft a QB. If he plays terrible we'll have the worst record and get Andrew Luck or Locker. If we play okay, maybe we can get the playoffs. We're only 3 games back of Arizona and we have two games left with them. They need to switch to the spread offense quickly because this is just getting ridiculous. I'm not sure why the defense have regressed so much because we have the same personnel.

 

[BoomBoom]

Jim Druckenmiller.

 

[butcher boy]

I'm not sure why the defense have regressed so much because we have the same personnel.

It's the coaching. What else could it be?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Nate Davis is not an NFL QB. He is not an option here. He has a learning disability that prevented him from learning the playbook. His skill as an NFL head coach is limited to throwing bombs against 3rd string defenses.

Alex Smith is incredibly smart and knows the playbook quite well. We've seen what that has given us. I think it's time to try the opposite end of the spectrum.

 

[Riffraff]

For those of you voting for Smith...why?

The title of the thread says:

If you were in charge of SF

That means this is my full time job, not a fantasy team. A real GM doesn't pull a QB off the practice squad and ask the Head Coach to start him. Nor do you lose on purpose to go for the top pick in the draft. Those options get you fired. That's why I'd stick with Smith and hope some of the other things that are going wrong straighten themselves out. I'd look at options out there via trade or free agency and uptick QB on the draft list, but realistically I'd keep going with Smith.

 

[footballnerd]

Alex Smith is a good quarterback on a badly coached team.

What has lead you to this conclusion?

Fantasy stats probably.

 

[butcher boy]

Alex Smith is incredibly smart and knows the playbook quite well. We've seen what that has given us. I think it's time to try the opposite end of the spectrum.

The only reason to put Nate Davis in is if you want to purposely tank the season to get a shot at Locker. How can you possibly think that putting in a QB that is confused by the playbook is a good idea to win you some games?

 

[mdlane]

Nate Davis is not an NFL QB. He is not an option here. He has a learning disability that prevented him from learning the playbook. His skill as an NFL head coach is limited to throwing bombs against 3rd string defenses.

How do you know that? Because Singletary said so? I call BS on anything the Niners coaching staff and/or management had to say about QBs in the 2010 offseason given their single-minded goal to strip the team of any viable alternative to Alex Smith.

I'd like to see Davis play a couple full in-season games before 2011. I think we NEED to see Davis play a couple in-season games before 2011. Unless Alex Smith runs the table from here (he won't) he should be gone or demoted by 2011.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

For those of you voting for Smith...why?

The title of the thread says:

If you were in charge of SF

That means this is my full time job, not a fantasy team. A real GM doesn't pull a QB off the practice squad and ask the Head Coach to start him. Nor do you lose on purpose to go for the top pick in the draft. Those options get you fired. That's why I'd stick with Smith and hope some of the other things that are going wrong straighten themselves out. I'd look at options out there via trade or free agency and uptick QB on the draft list, but realistically I'd keep going with Smith.

I should have been more clear. Let's pretend you're the owner or a new GM. Not the HC who is probably going to be fired after the season.So you can afford to gamble with a win or two this year. Not that you would want to, but in this scenario starting a non-Alex Smith option for a week won't cost you your job. It's more a way to see who you think is the best short term guy, AND who you think COULD be the long term guy.

 

[az_prof]

I would have traded for Vick in the off season, but in the current scenario--it is clear that Alex Smith is not the answer. He is an ok NFL backup. Carr? We already know the same thing about him--what do you gain by trotting him out there? They should go with a young, unproven player because they might get lucky. This season is over.

 

[Ahmad Rashad]

Joe Montana

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Alex Smith is incredibly smart and knows the playbook quite well. We've seen what that has given us. I think it's time to try the opposite end of the spectrum.

The only reason to put Nate Davis in is if you want to purposely tank the season to get a shot at Locker. How can you possibly think that putting in a QB that is confused by the playbook is a good idea to win you some games?

I think Nate Davis is probably worse than Alex Smith. But I also think he's *possibly* better. Basically, I realize Alex is guaranteed mediocrity at best. Carr is also a known commodity. Davis at this point is worth a one week gamble. Hell, not even a full game. Give him first team reps this week and let him play the first half.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I think we NEED to see Davis play a couple in-season games before 2011. Unless Alex Smith runs the table from here (he won't) he should be gone or demoted by 2011.

 

[butcher boy]

Nate Davis is not an NFL QB. He is not an option here. He has a learning disability that prevented him from learning the playbook. His skill as an NFL head coach is limited to throwing bombs against 3rd string defenses.

How do you know that? Because Singletary said so? I call BS on anything the Niners coaching staff and/or management had to say about QBs in the 2010 offseason given their single-minded goal to strip the team of any viable alternative to Alex Smith.

I'd like to see Davis play a couple full in-season games before 2011. I think we NEED to see Davis play a couple in-season games before 2011. Unless Alex Smith runs the table from here (he won't) he should be gone or demoted by 2011.

It's not a difficult determination to assess whether a QB can even learn a playbook. It's been reported many times since they drafted him. If he was making any progress at all he would be on the active roster in a backup role by now. It's incredibly telling how they went and got Carr instead of continuing to develop Davis. He had to be making no progress whatsoever.The only plays we've seen from Davis have been against pre-season third string defenses.

 

[FUBAR]

For those of you voting for Smith...why?

The title of the thread says:

If you were in charge of SF

That means this is my full time job, not a fantasy team. A real GM doesn't pull a QB off the practice squad and ask the Head Coach to start him. Nor do you lose on purpose to go for the top pick in the draft. Those options get you fired. That's why I'd stick with Smith and hope some of the other things that are going wrong straighten themselves out.

I'd look at options out there via trade or free agency and uptick QB on the draft list, but realistically I'd keep going with Smith.

oh I get it now, thanks. I was wondering why we were asking what LTG John F. Mulholland, Jr. would do. Pretty sure he'd kick Singletary's ###.

 

[CalBear]

Nate Davis is not an NFL QB. He is not an option here. He has a learning disability that prevented him from learning the playbook. His skill as an NFL head coach is limited to throwing bombs against 3rd string defenses.

How do you know that? Because Singletary said so? I call BS on anything the Niners coaching staff and/or management had to say about QBs in the 2010 offseason given their single-minded goal to strip the team of any viable alternative to Alex Smith.

How about the fact that Nate Davis fell to the fifth round, and no one attempted to claim him off waivers when the Niners waived him? They see him in practice every day, showcasing him for the fans is neither necessary nor interesting.

 

[pizzatyme]

It's not even close. Smith is the best they have. It's not all on him. Brees threw a pick six yesterday. Manning has done it several times in his career.

They need a better team, a better coach, and a better game plan. He had them in the game.

 

[FUBAR]

The sad fact for 49er fans is Smith could probably be a decent QB elsewhere but won't succeed unless other things change in San Fran. Davis just isn't going to be good, Carr we know sucks. Smith I just don't see as a NFL QB.

So the future QB almost certainly isn't on the roster. So for now I stay with Smith but I probably call Davis up and see what he might do in a few weeks.