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If you were to pick one of these RBs to have an impact in 2008 (1 Viewer)

Who will have the bigger impact in 2008?

  • A.Bradshaw (NYG)

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  • B.Calhoun (DET)

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  • J.Fargas (OAK)

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  • K.Irons (CIN)

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  • D.Ward (NYG)

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  • L.Washington (NYJ)

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  • K.Watson (CIN)

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  • R.Williams (MIA)

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My opinion: This group is tough to figure out, but I think there are some nice players here.

Bradshaw - had a nice post-season but is buried on the depth chart

Calhoun - has a chance at a starting gig (but is he healthy?)

Fargas - performed well last year but has a crowed backfield.

Irons - if he can stay heathly as a possible replacement for Rudi.

Ward - same as Bradshaw....playing behind Jacobs.

Washington - nice in PPR leagues, but can he overtake Jones (and possibly a rookie RB)?

Watson - another PPR gem, but how does he stack up in 08 with the return of Irons and a healthy Rudi

Williams - all the talent in the world, but does he get he shot? Will Brown be ready

So who gets your vote?

 
Fargas has the best chance to start, so I went with him today.

Irons probably has the most upside, although Ward and Watson both did very well last year.

 
Too early to say.Training camp would be a better time to review this.
Exactly why this sould be looked at now. These guys are available on most league's waiver wire and scooping up the right one now could pay some dividends in 2008. If we wait until training camp the price to acquire them may be more expensive and not worth it.
 
There was a blurb on KFFL (albeit via a beat reporter) that the Bengals are not expecting much from Irons this year. I'd temper my expectations there.

 
I like Fargas of this group. Mainly because he did a decent job and is the only one of the bunch that doesn't have to wait for someone to get hurt or perform poorly.

 
Fargas has the best chance to start, so I went with him today.Irons probably has the most upside, although Ward and Watson both did very well last year.
:hophead: i dont think oak will draft McFadden. Fargas will start and Bush and Rhodes will be the backup. Jordan will be gone soon.....
 
Bradshaw

Maybe I'm naive but Jacobs and Bradshaw split time during the playoffs and Bradshaw was the better back. I still see a RBBC but with Bradshaw taking the lead on a great run offense.

 
I really like how Bradshaw runs. I voted for him. But fwiw, I hate backs that give way to goalline guys, which is exactly what Jacobs is for the Giants. Nothing worse than seeing your guy get pulled on the 2. So with Bradshaw, that will have you pulling your hair out. But he's clearly good. Washington's got some game, too. Certainly not a goalline guy either, but he's a versatile player that I can see having a very solid career for alot of years.

 
As of right now it is difficult due to not knowing what will take place in the draft.

Fargas should be at number 1 right now due to him having the upper hand on the starting job and finishing last year very strong. In dynasty though he is not a very good candidate.

Washignton finished last season as an RB 2 in fantasy value (all be it a weak RB 2) and if the Jets don't draft one of the big name RB's then I like Washignton's upside. The Jets have made their offense better by revamping their offensive line and resigning Coles. Sure Jones will have his touches but Washignton is the most dangerous player on that team with the ball in his hands and should be in line to recevie even more touches than last year.

 
Too early to say.Training camp would be a better time to review this.
Exactly why this sould be looked at now. These guys are available on most league's waiver wire and scooping up the right one now could pay some dividends in 2008. If we wait until training camp the price to acquire them may be more expensive and not worth it.
Since it seems like most keepers have gone dynasty, I don't think these guys are as available as you think. Of course their all available for redraft purposes, but then camp becomes key. None of them are available in my dynasty and I own three of them.
My opinion: This group is tough to figure out, but I think there are some nice players here. Bradshaw - had a nice post-season but is buried on the depth chartCalhoun - has a chance at a starting gig (but is he healthy?)Fargas - performed well last year but has a crowed backfield. Irons - if he can stay heathly as a possible replacement for Rudi. Ward - same as Bradshaw....playing behind Jacobs. Washington - nice in PPR leagues, but can he overtake Jones (and possibly a rookie RB)?Watson - another PPR gem, but how does he stack up in 08 with the return of Irons and a healthy RudiWilliams - all the talent in the world, but does he get he shot? Will Brown be readySo who gets your vote?
I voted for Bradshaw, but that was just to get the poll out of the way. It's really such a guessing game poll results aren't too interesting, but I like this topic and your choice of backs. I agree that Bradshaw looks capable of taking over in NY. I also think Jacobs is one of those big backs who won't last long from the punishment. It should be noted that Ward was ahead of Bradshaw on the depth chart before injury though and he really ran strong.I own Calhoun and he needs to show us something. There's no reason to have high expectations at this point, but the injuries have forced me to keep him until he has a different reason for doing nothing. The coaches apparently like the kid. I'm hopeful, but not confident.Fargas played great at times last year. He just seemed to run angry and hard. I wonder how long he can keep that up. He should probably win this poll. I think Kiffin starts the season with him and from there you have a feature back until he breaks or doesn't produce.Irons is in a good situation, but he's Calhoun to me just a year younger. I'd like him to show something before just guessing how he might perform. I prefer him to Calhoun though.Washington is another I own. He's a nice player, but probably not a good fantasy option. It's hard to imagine him ever getting enough touches to be an FF RB2, but injuries to others could force him into a greater role. He is a Kevin Faulk and little more though. Faulk would produce if given the chance, so I'm happy to hold onto Washington just in case.Watson doesn't interest me, but then I have paid close attention to him.Ricky? Hah! I wish him well. He could certainly be the best on this list by a mile.
 
Too early to say.Training camp would be a better time to review this.
Exactly why this sould be looked at now. These guys are available on most league's waiver wire and scooping up the right one now could pay some dividends in 2008. If we wait until training camp the price to acquire them may be more expensive and not worth it.
I'd have to disagree with you saying that most of these guys are available in most leagues. I play in two dynasty leagues, one with deep rosters and one with very small rosters. In the deep league, only Brian Calhoun is available, and I'm kicking myself for not picking him up before the season ended (will have to wait for our FA auction now). In the other league (only 16 roster spots), only Calhoun and Washington are available there as well. I'd pick up Washington if I had any space.I think most leagues recognize that these guys have some potential value, so they don't end up on waivers very much.Also, I think you are grossly underestimating Bradshaw's value in your earlier response in this thread. I certainly don't see him as being buried on the depth chart. I think it's pretty fair to say that he will likely get a good chunk of carries in NY now, and the Giants will recognize that to keep Jacobs healthy, it may need to bea full RBBC between the two of them, with Ward as the 3rd back in the mix to spell Jacobs for a series or two a game. Ward can be a serviceable backup, but Jacobs and Bradshaw are their future.That's why I voted for Bradshaw. Fargas is a close second. But if they draft DMac, he drops some more in value.Irons has upside, cause the door is open in Cincy, but it's tough to say how he'll come back from ACL surgery.I think Calhoun has a chance for a role, but I think Detroit could very well end up with either Stewart or Mendenhall, which makes Calhoun a long shot.I think Rasta Ricky is done.Washington will be a decent change of pace back, pretty good for PPR, but nothing more.I think Watson may end up as the 3rd wheel in a crowded backfield.Another to add to this list I think is Pierre Thomas. He's got a chance to take over Deuce's role, since he had some success with it last year. Deuce may not be the same back after yet another ACL surgery, plus he's getting up there in age.Also, what about Michael Bush. He'll be on the outside looking in, but he's got a shot at climbing the depth chart too, if he stays healthy. He certainly has the upside. But again, a very crowded backfield, especially if they add McFadden, so this may be a long shot as well.
 
I'd say Bradshaw is a safe bet to contribute, but with Ward and Jacobs in the mix, a lot has to happen for him to get the lions share of the carries.

If you're looking for a "swing for the fences "type of play, Williams should have a low cost and, IMO, is the only guy on the list who has the skillset to be a workhorse type of back.

 
K. Watson because he's proven he can do it. Irons has talent but hasn't proved he can hold up to the banging, in fact he's proven otherwise.

 
None of the RBs mentioned in the thread are available in my dynasty league except DeDe Dorsey.

As for the poll question, I'd have to go with Fargas right now, as the only starter in the group.

 
Fargas without question if Raiders dont take McFadden.

if Raiders take dmac, it's Bradshaw no doubt. Bradshaw did get GL carries last year, and even in the playoffs. They alternated series more than Bradshaw just spelling Jacobs every play or so.

 
Fargas without question if Raiders dont take McFadden.if Raiders take dmac, it's Bradshaw no doubt. Bradshaw did get GL carries last year, and even in the playoffs. They alternated series more than Bradshaw just spelling Jacobs every play or so.
I heard on NFL radio that Oakland is excited about Bush, but it is the Raiders. I do not see how Oakland can pass on Mcfadden. Davis likes the sexy offensive players.
 
fsufan said:
RoyDubb said:
Fargas without question if Raiders dont take McFadden.

if Raiders take dmac, it's Bradshaw no doubt. Bradshaw did get GL carries last year, and even in the playoffs. They alternated series more than Bradshaw just spelling Jacobs every play or so.
I heard on NFL radio that Oakland is excited about Bush, but it is the Raiders. I do not see how Oakland can pass on Mcfadden. Davis likes the sexy offensive players.
Not picking on you but why does everyone say this? Oakland picked an offensive skill player in the first round last year for the first time in at least 10 years.*edited to add skill player

 
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fsufan said:
RoyDubb said:
Fargas without question if Raiders dont take McFadden.

if Raiders take dmac, it's Bradshaw no doubt. Bradshaw did get GL carries last year, and even in the playoffs. They alternated series more than Bradshaw just spelling Jacobs every play or so.
I heard on NFL radio that Oakland is excited about Bush, but it is the Raiders. I do not see how Oakland can pass on Mcfadden. Davis likes the sexy offensive players.
Not picking on you but why does everyone say this? Oakland picked an offensive skill player in the first round last year for the first time in at least 10 years.*edited to add skill player
Everyone (I assume you mean message boarders) is saying McFadden to OAK because the scuttlebutt is that Crazy Al wants him, and that's what most of the well known draft mocks around the net are saying. I did a study earlier this week of 14 different mocks from...(1) NFL.com – Kirwan 4/2.

(2) NFL.com – Carucci 3/31

(3) SI.com 3/13

(4) Sports XChange 3/25

(5) CBS Sportsline – Prisco 3/13

(6) CBS Sportsline – Judge 3/13

(7) ESPN's Hashmarks Blog 3/21

(8) Rivals.com 3/26

(9) Scout.com 3/21

(10) NFL Draft Countdown 3/17

(11) Football's Future 3/17

(12) Pro Football Weekly 3/15

(13) New Era Scouting 3/17

(14) Scout's Notebook 3/30

... and all but NFL Draft Countdown (NYJ) and Pro Football Weekly (KC) have McFadden going to Oakland.

Which means he probably won't go there. :goodposting:

My own guess is Jets at #6. or maybe a trade up by someone to KC's pick at #5.

 
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Also, what about Michael Bush. He'll be on the outside looking in, but he's got a shot at climbing the depth chart too, if he stays healthy. He certainly has the upside. But again, a very crowded backfield, especially if they add McFadden, so this may be a long shot as well.
We are talking dynasty leagues? MBush, most unavailable player on the list(if added). Owners aren't giving up on the 2007 1st round rb so easily. Nor are Bush's owners willing to deal him especially if Darren is not the Raiders pick.
 
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Also, what about Michael Bush. He'll be on the outside looking in, but he's got a shot at climbing the depth chart too, if he stays healthy. He certainly has the upside. But again, a very crowded backfield, especially if they add McFadden, so this may be a long shot as well.
We are talking dynasty leagues? MBush, most unavailable player on the list(if added). Owners aren't giving up on the 2007 1st round rb so easily. Nor are Bush's owners willing to deal him especially if Darren is not the Raiders pick.
IIRC, he was a 4th round pick.
 
fsufan said:
RoyDubb said:
Fargas without question if Raiders dont take McFadden.

if Raiders take dmac, it's Bradshaw no doubt. Bradshaw did get GL carries last year, and even in the playoffs. They alternated series more than Bradshaw just spelling Jacobs every play or so.
I heard on NFL radio that Oakland is excited about Bush, but it is the Raiders. I do not see how Oakland can pass on Mcfadden. Davis likes the sexy offensive players.
Not picking on you but why does everyone say this? Oakland picked an offensive skill player in the first round last year for the first time in at least 10 years.*edited to add skill player
becuase it is Al Davis
 
Bradshaw - In terms of pure talent I like Bradshaw best and I am sure he will get a chance eventually; however, there are one or two guys who are pretty good that he has to compete with for looks. Can he beat them out in 08? I don't know.

Calhoun - With only a bad Tatum Bell right now, he will get a chance if healthy. I liked him coming out of college but the question is his health. Also, I expect the Lions to draft a RB on the first day.

Fargas - I expect Fargas to be the most likely to make an impact in 08, but I don't like him as well as Bradshaw in the long run. He is obviously the starter for now, although M. Bush will get a chance to beat him out.

Irons - He is in a good situation, but how well he recovers from his injury and whether he can be a good NFL back are yet to be seen. More questions than answers with Irons.

Ward - I really don't like Ward that much because I don't think he can stay healthy and I just don't think he is as good as most people around here do. I see him a a change of pace back in 08 and beyond. He will play but you won't be able to count on him as a fantasy starter.

Washington - I don't like this guy at all and don't understand why some people still talk about him. More than likely he gets displaced on depth chart by a rookie this year.

Watson - Don't like Watson and see him as a COP back, not a featured back. I would rather have Irons if I had to have a CINN back.

Williams - This guy has no chance IMO; too little playing time over the past three years and Mother time and a lack of desire to play. He will get a chance but I don't see it.

I don't think I can rank these guys because it depends on the rest of your roster and scoring system: for example, if I had Jacobs then I would want Bradshaw; If I had Bell (or the guy they will draft this year), then I might want Calhoun (depending upon preseason). Basically, all these guys are backups at this point except for Fargas, who will have competition. In redraft, I want Fargas first and then whomever is the backup to the starter that I have on my team. If I have Rudi, I want Irons. If I have TJ, I might want Washington.

Really, though, this is way too early because we don't know who the teams are going to draft yet or what the depth chart will be. Way too early. Based on talent, there is no question that Bradshaw is the most talented though.

 
Also, what about Michael Bush. He'll be on the outside looking in, but he's got a shot at climbing the depth chart too, if he stays healthy. He certainly has the upside. But again, a very crowded backfield, especially if they add McFadden, so this may be a long shot as well.
We are talking dynasty leagues? MBush, most unavailable player on the list(if added). Owners aren't giving up on the 2007 1st round rb so easily. Nor are Bush's owners willing to deal him especially if Darren is not the Raiders pick.
IIRC, he was a 4th round pick.
The poster probably meant First Round in Rookie Dynasty draft. Most people drafted M. Bush in the first round and are not giving up on him since we haven't seen what he can do yet and he is now healthy.
 
Fargas without question if Raiders dont take McFadden.

if Raiders take dmac, it's Bradshaw no doubt. Bradshaw did get GL carries last year, and even in the playoffs. They alternated series more than Bradshaw just spelling Jacobs every play or so.
I heard on NFL radio that Oakland is excited about Bush, but it is the Raiders. I do not see how Oakland can pass on Mcfadden. Davis likes the sexy offensive players.
Not picking on you but why does everyone say this? Oakland picked an offensive skill player in the first round last year for the first time in at least 10 years.*edited to add skill player
becuase it is Al Davis
Al Davis likes pass rushers more. Happy to help.I think the move is to grab Fargas and Bradshaw. Hopefully Fargas' inevitable injury/loss of job coincides with Brandon Jacobs inevitable injury, and you'll have a quality every week starter.

 

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