"I'm A Cop, Just Cooperate [or else] (1 Viewer)

[Henry Ford]

"They might also include fisting"

For free?

Just pay shipping and handling. Mostly handling.

 

[tom22406]

Hands up,not in the stink!!!

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

"Rosa Parks stood up for her rights."

"Yeah but she went to jail. Why go through that pain in the ### just to prove a point?"

@ even trying to equate Rosa Parks standing up for her rights to some schmuck refusing a search of his car at a sobriety check-point or something. You aren't going down in history as some great savior for that.

You keep talking about a car. I very clearly said "finger in your ###."

OK...I get it. At some point above, somebody (maybe not you) was discussing this as a routine traffic stop...regardless..

@ even trying to equate Rosa Parks standing up for her rights to some schmuck refusing a finger in his #### at a sobriety check-point or something. You aren't going down in history as some great savior for that either.

I can see it now...all THESE people marching on the Capitol with signs, "Save our bums!" "End police fingering!"

I wasn't trying to equate anything. It's called an analogy.

But could you do me a favor and list which of our civil rights are worth standing up for and which ones we should just let go?

 

[fantasycurse42]

A cop trying to shove his fist up your ### is a friendly gesture and shouldn't be perceived as aggression. You haven't experienced pleasure until John Q Law sticks his hand (hopefully with a leather glove) up your ###. Don't knock it until you try it.

 

[Henry Ford]

A cop trying to shove his fist up your ### is a friendly gesture and shouldn't be perceived as aggression. You haven't experienced pleasure until John Q Law sticks his hand (hopefully with a leather glove) up your ###. Don't knock it until you try it.

Is what I'm typing coming out in a different language to everyone else? It's just a finger. Why does everyone else have to change what we're talking about?

 

[Limp Ditka]

A cop trying to shove his fist up your ### is a friendly gesture and shouldn't be perceived as aggression. You haven't experienced pleasure until John Q Law sticks his hand (hopefully with a leather glove) up your ###. Don't knock it until you try it.

That seals it . LHUCKS alias confirmed

 

[fantasycurse42]

A cop trying to shove his fist up your ### is a friendly gesture and shouldn't be perceived as aggression. You haven't experienced pleasure until John Q Law sticks his hand (hopefully with a leather glove) up your ###. Don't knock it until you try it.

Is what I'm typing coming out in a different language to everyone else? It's just a finger. Why does everyone else have to change what we're talking about?

That doesn't sound as fun

What you really want to request is the Abner Louima Special.

 

[saintfool]

If I get pulled over at nighttime (which I haven't in prob 6-7 years), I instantly turn all of the lights in my car on and keep my hands on the steering wheel until the cop is at my window. Instantly sets the tone that I am a law abiding citizen with zero to hide and makes the interaction as easy on both of us as possible.

This is a good starting point for not only "not starting ####" but also being easy to deal with.

Sounds like something else should be expected in Ferguson...

2. Black people account for most arrests in Ferguson

Last year, black residents accounted for 86% of the vehicle stops made by Ferguson police and nearly 93% of the arrests made from those stops, according to the state attorney general. FBI statistics show that 85% of the people arrested by Ferguson police are black, and that 92% of people arrested specifically for disorderly conduct are black.

 

[Politician Spock]

We're not gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe.

 

[fantasycurse42]

If I get pulled over at nighttime (which I haven't in prob 6-7 years), I instantly turn all of the lights in my car on and keep my hands on the steering wheel until the cop is at my window. Instantly sets the tone that I am a law abiding citizen with zero to hide and makes the interaction as easy on both of us as possible.

This is a good starting point for not only "not starting ####" but also being easy to deal with.

Sounds like something else should be expected in Ferguson...

2. Black people account for most arrests in Ferguson

Last year, black residents accounted for 86% of the vehicle stops made by Ferguson police and nearly 93% of the arrests made from those stops, according to the state attorney general. FBI statistics show that 85% of the people arrested by Ferguson police are black, and that 92% of people arrested specifically for disorderly conduct are black.

Are you quoting this to say I don't get pulled over bc I'm white and not that I wear a seatbelt & obey traffic laws?

 

[Angry Beavers]

Problem is there is a difference between "cooperating" and not consenting to a violation of your civil rights. If an officer asks to search my car and I say "No. You have no probable cause." am I being difficult or non co-operative cause I won't do exactly what I was told? Assume I have nothing to hide in the car, but I also know my rights and I won't have them trampled upon by over zealous law enforcement.

From the article:

But if you believe (or know) that the cop stopping you is violating your rights or is acting like a bully, I guarantee that the situation will not become easier if you show your anger and resentment. Worse, initiating a physical confrontation is a sure recipe for getting hurt. Police are legally permitted to use deadly force when they assess a serious threat to their or someone else's life. Later, you can ask for a supervisor, lodge a complaint or contact civil rights organizations if you believe your rights were violated. Feel free to sue the police! Just don't challenge a cop during a stop.

Sure sounds like he's saying you best agree to have your rights trampled, or we might end up ####ing you up.

Personally, I don't disagree...again, excluding some whacky BDSM scenario, if you have nothing to hide, why do you care? Why is it that your rights are "trampled on," and not just that you got searched when you shouldn't have? It's not some huge injustice in most cases. If a cop is clearly on a power trip and wants to search my car and I have nothing to hide, go ahead! I get that we all have rights. If we repeatedly had them "trampled on," maybe I'd feel more strongly...I don't understand what benefit the wrongfully accused gets from holding fast to their rights at the expense of angering someone already on a power trip instead of just saying, "I know I'm innocent, so you can search and do whatever you want."

Because the Fourth Amendment.

This and the Constitution. Where is the line where as a society we will feel the government has gone too far? When we get to that point, it will be too late.

 

[Mister Martie]

I will gladly comply with reasonable requests and I'll always be respectful. I won't waive my constitutional rights for the sake of convenience though.

 

[Gandalf the Grey]

Problem is there is a difference between "cooperating" and not consenting to a violation of your civil rights. If an officer asks to search my car and I say "No. You have no probable cause." am I being difficult or non co-operative cause I won't do exactly what I was told? Assume I have nothing to hide in the car, but I also know my rights and I won't have them trampled upon by over zealous law enforcement.

From the article:

But if you believe (or know) that the cop stopping you is violating your rights or is acting like a bully, I guarantee that the situation will not become easier if you show your anger and resentment. Worse, initiating a physical confrontation is a sure recipe for getting hurt. Police are legally permitted to use deadly force when they assess a serious threat to their or someone else's life. Later, you can ask for a supervisor, lodge a complaint or contact civil rights organizations if you believe your rights were violated. Feel free to sue the police! Just don't challenge a cop during a stop.

Sure sounds like he's saying you best agree to have your rights trampled, or we might end up ####ing you up.

Sure sounds like you have one hell of a persecution complex. Don't break the law and you won't have to worry about an unnecessary search. I'd rather have cops search unnecessarily and find a threat than not be able to do so and miss one.

People like you are the worst. Your type enable abuse of police power. Fearful cowering "keep us safe and maintain order at any cost".

"Don't break the law and you won't have to worry about an unnecessary search". LMFAO, yeah like that's a true statement.

You're obviously OK with NSA spying too. We might as well go all out and fill the sky with surveillance drones-hey if you're not doing anything wrong...

 

[msommer]

I will gladly comply with reasonable requests and I'll always be respectful. I won't waive my constitutional rights for the sake of convenience though.

Examples, please

Car?

Yard?

House?

Being frisked?

Strip search?

Driving while black?

Walking while black?

Erroneous no-knock entry?

 

[Politician Spock]

Cop doesn't like being told "no". Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aPj6dYrqbA

NSFW!

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Cop doesn't like being told "no". Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aPj6dYrqbA

NSFW!

Ha, actually I thought that ended rather well.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Cop doesn't like being told "no". Link:

Thank goodness dash cams keep these people well behaved.

 

[Zow]

Problem is there is a difference between "cooperating" and not consenting to a violation of your civil rights. If an officer asks to search my car and I say "No. You have no probable cause." am I being difficult or non co-operative cause I won't do exactly what I was told? Assume I have nothing to hide in the car, but I also know my rights and I won't have them trampled upon by over zealous law enforcement.

From the article:

But if you believe (or know) that the cop stopping you is violating your rights or is acting like a bully, I guarantee that the situation will not become easier if you show your anger and resentment. Worse, initiating a physical confrontation is a sure recipe for getting hurt. Police are legally permitted to use deadly force when they assess a serious threat to their or someone else's life. Later, you can ask for a supervisor, lodge a complaint or contact civil rights organizations if you believe your rights were violated. Feel free to sue the police! Just don't challenge a cop during a stop.

Sure sounds like he's saying you best agree to have your rights trampled, or we might end up ####ing you up.

Personally, I don't disagree...again, excluding some whacky BDSM scenario, if you have nothing to hide, why do you care? Why is it that your rights are "trampled on," and not just that you got searched when you shouldn't have? It's not some huge injustice in most cases. If a cop is clearly on a power trip and wants to search my car and I have nothing to hide, go ahead! I get that we all have rights. If we repeatedly had them "trampled on," maybe I'd feel more strongly...I don't understand what benefit the wrongfully accused gets from holding fast to their rights at the expense of angering someone already on a power trip instead of just saying, "I know I'm innocent, so you can search and do whatever you want."

Because the Fourth Amendment.

This and the Constitution. Where is the line where as a society we will feel the government has gone too far? When we get to that point, it will be too late.

 

[saintfool]

If I get pulled over at nighttime (which I haven't in prob 6-7 years), I instantly turn all of the lights in my car on and keep my hands on the steering wheel until the cop is at my window. Instantly sets the tone that I am a law abiding citizen with zero to hide and makes the interaction as easy on both of us as possible.

This is a good starting point for not only "not starting ####" but also being easy to deal with.

Sounds like something else should be expected in Ferguson...

2. Black people account for most arrests in Ferguson

Last year, black residents accounted for 86% of the vehicle stops made by Ferguson police and nearly 93% of the arrests made from those stops, according to the state attorney general. FBI statistics show that 85% of the people arrested by Ferguson police are black, and that 92% of people arrested specifically for disorderly conduct are black.

Are you quoting this to say I don't get pulled over bc I'm white and not that I wear a seatbelt & obey traffic laws?

i'm saying that you might feel differently if you got pulled over a lot more than you have been. you might feel differently if you stood a greater chance of being *arrested* for "disorderly conduct", which i think we all can agree is kind of overly broad. you might feel differently if you car was searched more often.

systemic problem there in Ferguson, obviously. we can be cavalier if we want, saying "don't do stupid ####" and how we need to "respect" the authority of the police but it all rings a little hollow in light of this kind of data reporting.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

The Constitution is an outdated document created by a bunch of slave-owning aristocratic white men that didn't want to pay their taxes.

 

[Zow]

The Constitution is an outdated document created by a bunch of slave-owning aristocratic white men that didn't want to pay their taxes.

And yet it still frowns on a warrantless search lacking probable cause and doesn't agree with the notion that "if you haven't done anything wrong, you should just comply with an officer".

 

[Christo]

If everyone does that then the Constitution goes out the window and cops will just stop everyone until they find the criminals, because hey, everyone else is cool with it!

This is paranoia bull####.

No, it's not. The "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" argument is frequently made by people defending incursions on privacy. Most people who advocate for our Bill of Rights find it horrifying.

I don't think anybody is DEFENDING incursions on privacy. We're saying that sometimes it's more logical to just suffer said incursion (which really has no lasting impact on an innocent person) than to deal with the potential consequences of a one-man mini-revolt against law enforcement for a moral stand for rights.

If you feel that they should be allowed to do this, do you really have the right?

Sure. I can choose to NOT let them search...and by doing so I willingly accept that a cop might be a #### to me and make life a lot harder on me. I know I'm innocent, so I don't really care if they search, so I WILLINGLY tell them they can search.

It's no different than owning a gun. I have a constitutional right to own a gun, but that doesn't mean the government has to make it easy for me. A lot of people choose not to go through the hassle of owning a gun becuase of the hoops you have to jump through. That doesn't mean they don't have the right.

Yes it is. You don't have to go through hoops not have an officer's finger in your ###. That's the point.

Because that's exactly what the cop who wrote the article was talking about--fingers in asses during a traffic stop.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

The Constitution is an outdated document

created by a bunch of slave-owning aristocratic white men that didn't want to pay their taxes.

And yet it still frowns on a warrantless search lacking probable cause and doesn't agree with the notion that "if you haven't done anything wrong, you should just comply with an officer".

No surprise you don't get the movie reference

 

[Christo]

The Constitution is an outdated document

created by a bunch of slave-owning aristocratic white men that didn't want to pay their taxes.

And yet it still frowns on a warrantless searchlacking probable cause and doesn't agree with the notion that "if you haven't done anything wrong, you should just comply with an officer".

No surprise you don't get the movie reference

Alright, alright, alright!

 

[MikeIke]

You keep talking about a car. I very clearly said "finger in your ###."

sig material right there

 

[Josie Maran]

If everyone does that then the Constitution goes out the window and cops will just stop everyone until they find the criminals, because hey, everyone else is cool with it!

This is paranoia bull####.

No, it's not. The "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" argument is frequently made by people defending incursions on privacy. Most people who advocate for our Bill of Rights find it horrifying.

I don't think anybody is DEFENDING incursions on privacy. We're saying that sometimes it's more logical to just suffer said incursion (which really has no lasting impact on an innocent person) than to deal with the potential consequences of a one-man mini-revolt against law enforcement for a moral stand for rights.

If you feel that they should be allowed to do this, do you really have the right?

Sure. I can choose to NOT let them search...and by doing so I willingly accept that a cop might be a #### to me and make life a lot harder on me. I know I'm innocent, so I don't really care if they search, so I WILLINGLY tell them they can search.

It's no different than owning a gun. I have a constitutional right to own a gun, but that doesn't mean the government has to make it easy for me. A lot of people choose not to go through the hassle of owning a gun becuase of the hoops you have to jump through. That doesn't mean they don't have the right.

Yes it is. You don't have to go through hoops not have an officer's finger in your ###. That's the point.

Because that's exactly what the cop who wrote the article was talking about--fingers in asses during a traffic stop.

Cop: Do you mind if I search your vehicle, sir?

Christo: Ummmm, is fatgirl porn legal in this state?

Cop: Yes sir, it is.

Christo: Search away!

 

[Christo]

If everyone does that then the Constitution goes out the window and cops will just stop everyone until they find the criminals, because hey, everyone else is cool with it!

This is paranoia bull####.

No, it's not. The "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" argument is frequently made by people defending incursions on privacy. Most people who advocate for our Bill of Rights find it horrifying.

I don't think anybody is DEFENDING incursions on privacy. We're saying that sometimes it's more logical to just suffer said incursion (which really has no lasting impact on an innocent person) than to deal with the potential consequences of a one-man mini-revolt against law enforcement for a moral stand for rights.

If you feel that they should be allowed to do this, do you really have the right?

Sure. I can choose to NOT let them search...and by doing so I willingly accept that a cop might be a #### to me and make life a lot harder on me. I know I'm innocent, so I don't really care if they search, so I WILLINGLY tell them they can search.

It's no different than owning a gun. I have a constitutional right to own a gun, but that doesn't mean the government has to make it easy for me. A lot of people choose not to go through the hassle of owning a gun becuase of the hoops you have to jump through. That doesn't mean they don't have the right.

Yes it is. You don't have to go through hoops not have an officer's finger in your ###. That's the point.

Because that's exactly what the cop who wrote the article was talking about--fingers in asses during a traffic stop.

Cop: Do you mind if I search your vehicle, sir?

Christo: Ummmm, is fatgirl porn legal in this state?

Cop: Yes sir, it is.

Christo: Search away!

Silly Josie. That stays on my laptop at home. Even the ones with fingers in their asses.

 

[Da Guru]

My best friend growing up has been a Detroit Cop for 24 years(one year to go) who has made thousands of stops. Many times he has said that he has never seen any kind of incident when people just follow instructions.

I got pulled over by a State Trooper in Kentucky in a rental car last year. It was around midnight and I opened the door..he pulled his gun and said hands on the wheel. I put both hands on top of the steering wheel and waited for him to walk up. It was not that hard to comply and I did not want to be a stat. In retrospect I should not have opened the door but I was totally sober and not concerned. The police do not know this though so it did not bother me. The guy just wants to go home to his family after work like all of us.

 

[msommer]

My best friend growing up has been a Detroit Cop for 24 years(one year to go) who has made thousands of stops. Many times he has said that he has never seen any kind of incident when people just follow instructions.

I got pulled over by a State Trooper in Kentucky in a rental car last year. It was around midnight and I opened the door..he pulled his gun and said hands on the wheel. I put both hands on top of the steering wheel and waited for him to walk up. It was not that hard to comply and I did not want to be a stat. In retrospect I should not have opened the door but I was totally sober and not concerned. The police do not know this though so it did not bother me. The guy just wants to go home to his family after work like all of us.

Are we to assume that those instructions always are lawful?

 

[fantasycurse42]

If I get pulled over at nighttime (which I haven't in prob 6-7 years), I instantly turn all of the lights in my car on and keep my hands on the steering wheel until the cop is at my window. Instantly sets the tone that I am a law abiding citizen with zero to hide and makes the interaction as easy on both of us as possible.

This is a good starting point for not only "not starting ####" but also being easy to deal with.

Sounds like something else should be expected in Ferguson...

2. Black people account for most arrests in Ferguson

Last year, black residents accounted for 86% of the vehicle stops made by Ferguson police and nearly 93% of the arrests made from those stops, according to the state attorney general. FBI statistics show that 85% of the people arrested by Ferguson police are black, and that 92% of people arrested specifically for disorderly conduct are black.

Are you quoting this to say I don't get pulled over bc I'm white and not that I wear a seatbelt & obey traffic laws?

i'm saying that you might feel differently if you got pulled over a lot more than you have been. you might feel differently if you stood a greater chance of being *arrested* for "disorderly conduct", which i think we all can agree is kind of overly broad. you might feel differently if you car was searched more often.systemic problem there in Ferguson, obviously. we can be cavalier if we want, saying "don't do stupid ####" and how we need to "respect" the authority of the police but it all rings a little hollow in light of this kind of data reporting.

What about in NYC, you're aware white officers are not the majority, yet blacks and Hispanics make up the large majority of arrests? Must be racism

 

[Henry Ford]

If everyone does that then the Constitution goes out the window and cops will just stop everyone until they find the criminals, because hey, everyone else is cool with it!

This is paranoia bull####.

No, it's not. The "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" argument is frequently made by people defending incursions on privacy. Most people who advocate for our Bill of Rights find it horrifying.

I don't think anybody is DEFENDING incursions on privacy. We're saying that sometimes it's more logical to just suffer said incursion (which really has no lasting impact on an innocent person) than to deal with the potential consequences of a one-man mini-revolt against law enforcement for a moral stand for rights.

If you feel that they should be allowed to do this, do you really have the right?

Sure. I can choose to NOT let them search...and by doing so I willingly accept that a cop might be a #### to me and make life a lot harder on me. I know I'm innocent, so I don't really care if they search, so I WILLINGLY tell them they can search.

It's no different than owning a gun. I have a constitutional right to own a gun, but that doesn't mean the government has to make it easy for me. A lot of people choose not to go through the hassle of owning a gun becuase of the hoops you have to jump through. That doesn't mean they don't have the right.

Yes it is. You don't have to go through hoops not have an officer's finger in your ###. That's the point.

Because that's exactly what the cop who wrote the article was talking about--fingers in asses during a traffic stop.

I'm glad someone else caught that.

 

[Da Guru]

My best friend growing up has been a Detroit Cop for 24 years(one year to go) who has made thousands of stops. Many times he has said that he has never seen any kind of incident when people just follow instructions.

I got pulled over by a State Trooper in Kentucky in a rental car last year. It was around midnight and I opened the door..he pulled his gun and said hands on the wheel. I put both hands on top of the steering wheel and waited for him to walk up. It was not that hard to comply and I did not want to be a stat. In retrospect I should not have opened the door but I was totally sober and not concerned. The police do not know this though so it did not bother me. The guy just wants to go home to his family after work like all of us.

Are we to assume that those instructions always are lawful?

When you are at the mercy of two police officers with guns who cares? Any time I have been stopped for anything it is easier to comply.

 

[msommer]

My best friend growing up has been a Detroit Cop for 24 years(one year to go) who has made thousands of stops. Many times he has said that he has never seen any kind of incident when people just follow instructions.

I got pulled over by a State Trooper in Kentucky in a rental car last year. It was around midnight and I opened the door..he pulled his gun and said hands on the wheel. I put both hands on top of the steering wheel and waited for him to walk up. It was not that hard to comply and I did not want to be a stat. In retrospect I should not have opened the door but I was totally sober and not concerned. The police do not know this though so it did not bother me. The guy just wants to go home to his family after work like all of us.

Are we to assume that those instructions always are lawful?

When you are at the mercy of two police officers with guns who cares? Any time I have been stopped for anything it is easier to comply.

So, where do you draw the line in your constitutional rights?

Two guys with guns and they are all out of the window or just some. If the latter, which.

 

[Zow]

The Constitution is an outdated document

created by a bunch of slave-owning aristocratic white men that didn't want to pay their taxes.

And yet it still frowns on a warrantless searchlacking probable cause and doesn't agree with the notion that "if you haven't done anything wrong, you should just comply with an officer".

No surprise you don't get the movie reference

 

[Abraham]

I love the people who say "I know my rights!" When the fact is that the vast majority of them do not, In fAct, know their rights.

 

[Politician Spock]

My best friend growing up has been a Detroit Cop for 24 years(one year to go) who has made thousands of stops. Many times he has said that he has never seen any kind of incident when people just follow instructions.

I got pulled over by a State Trooper in Kentucky in a rental car last year. It was around midnight and I opened the door..he pulled his gun and said hands on the wheel. I put both hands on top of the steering wheel and waited for him to walk up. It was not that hard to comply and I did not want to be a stat. In retrospect I should not have opened the door but I was totally sober and not concerned. The police do not know this though so it did not bother me. The guy just wants to go home to his family after work like all of us.

Are we to assume that those instructions always are lawful?

When you are at the mercy of two police officers with guns who cares? Any time I have been stopped for anything it is easier to comply.

I don't need their mercy.... unless the constitution is dead.

 

[Abraham]

As a practical matter, yes, you do. The vast majority of police officers are trained for and looking for voluntary compliance. This means getting the person to understand the issue or citation and then move along. Actually hauling you to jail is a pain for the officer as well and in most cases they don't want that any more than you do. Cool, you got a video on YouTube showing how witty you are. For every one of those there are dozens of people who get shot and killed because they couldn't just follow directions. There is a reason police officers have the authorization to use lethal force if they feel threatened. Why? Because it's a job where feeling threatened often = being threatened.

Regardless of race, situation, city or time of day, the best way to avoid getting shot or taZed is to follow directions and be respectful. You don't want to? You don't "Have" to because you "know your rights?" That's fine too. Just remember that being right isn't worth much when you're dead.

 

[msommer]

As a practical matter, yes, you do. The vast majority of police officers are trained for and looking for voluntary compliance. This means getting the person to understand the issue or citation and then move along. Actually hauling you to jail is a pain for the officer as well and in most cases they don't want that any more than you do. Cool, you got a video on YouTube showing how witty you are. For every one of those there are dozens of people who get shot and killed because they couldn't just follow directions. There is a reason police officers have the authorization to use lethal force if they feel threatened. Why? Because it's a job where feeling threatened often = being threatened.

Regardless of race, situation, city or time of day, the best way to avoid getting shot or taZed is to follow directions and be respectful. You don't want to? You don't "Have" to because you "know your rights?" That's fine too. Just remember that being right isn't worth much when you're dead.

When I've been travelling in parts of Africa, South America, and the Middle East I've always operated under such rules.

Pity that the US is now joining the ranks where you must comply with cops trampling your rights for fear of your life

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

trampling of rights will continue.

Just recently in michigan, a 14 year old white girl was murdered in small town about 30 miles north of detroit.

Police have no leads, so they basically set up traffic stops around the town asking every person in a car questions. Not legal in michigan to have these road blocks.

Yet they did it an people complied.

 

[Abraham]

As a practical matter, yes, you do. The vast majority of police officers are trained for and looking for voluntary compliance. This means getting the person to understand the issue or citation and then move along. Actually hauling you to jail is a pain for the officer as well and in most cases they don't want that any more than you do. Cool, you got a video on YouTube showing how witty you are. For every one of those there are dozens of people who get shot and killed because they couldn't just follow directions. There is a reason police officers have the authorization to use lethal force if they feel threatened. Why? Because it's a job where feeling threatened often = being threatened.

Regardless of race, situation, city or time of day, the best way to avoid getting shot or taZed is to follow directions and be respectful. You don't want to? You don't "Have" to because you "know your rights?" That's fine too. Just remember that being right isn't worth much when you're dead.

When I've been travelling in parts of Africa, South America, and the Middle East I've always operated under such rules.Pity that the US is now joining the ranks where you must comply with cops trampling your rights for fear of your life

How is it "trampling my rights" to ask me to step out of my vehicle? (For example)

 

[msommer]

As a practical matter, yes, you do. The vast majority of police officers are trained for and looking for voluntary compliance. This means getting the person to understand the issue or citation and then move along. Actually hauling you to jail is a pain for the officer as well and in most cases they don't want that any more than you do. Cool, you got a video on YouTube showing how witty you are. For every one of those there are dozens of people who get shot and killed because they couldn't just follow directions. There is a reason police officers have the authorization to use lethal force if they feel threatened. Why? Because it's a job where feeling threatened often = being threatened.

Regardless of race, situation, city or time of day, the best way to avoid getting shot or taZed is to follow directions and be respectful. You don't want to? You don't "Have" to because you "know your rights?" That's fine too. Just remember that being right isn't worth much when you're dead.

When I've been travelling in parts of Africa, South America, and the Middle East I've always operated under such rules.Pity that the US is now joining the ranks where you must comply with cops trampling your rights for fear of your life

How is it "trampling my rights" to ask me to step out of my vehicle? (For example)

I asked this up the thread but then mr martie decided not to play

What are your limit on trampled constitutional rights?

Car search?

Yard search?

House search?

Being frisked?

Strip search?

Cop's finger up your ###?

Driving while black?

Walking while black?

Erroneous no-knock entry?

 

[lod01]

If everyone does that then the Constitution goes out the window and cops will just stop everyone until they find the criminals, because hey, everyone else is cool with it!

This is paranoia bull####.

The guy definitely has mental issues. That much is certain based on his posts over the last few days.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I will gladly comply with reasonable requests and I'll always be respectful. I won't waive my constitutional rights for the sake of convenience though.

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[Officer Pete Malloy]

I love the people who say "I know my rights!" When the fact is that the vast majority of them do not, In fAct, know their rights.

What about those of us that do?

 

[Abraham]

I love the people who say "I know my rights!" When the fact is that the vast majority of them do not, In fAct, know their rights.

What about those of us that do?

Then you are smart enough to know that an officer saying, "hey, can you stop so I can talk to you" may not be the right ditch to die in.

 

[Politician Spock]

I love the people who say "I know my rights!" When the fact is that the vast majority of them do not, In fAct, know their rights.

What about those of us that do?

Then you are smart enough to know that an officer saying, "hey, can you stop so I can talk to you" may not be the right ditch to die in.

That's not a violation of anyone's rights for a cop to do that.

 

[TakiToki]

Privacy arguments just mask the real problem -- caging people for drugs. No one is going to say, "Man, that guy followed every traffic law to a T. It's BS that they pulled him over and found a murdered body in the trunk."

 

[Abraham]

I love the people who say "I know my rights!" When the fact is that the vast majority of them do not, In fAct, know their rights.

What about those of us that do?

Then you are smart enough to know that an officer saying, "hey, can you stop so I can talk to you" may not be the right ditch to die in.

That's not a violation of anyone's rights for a cop to do that.

That's my point.

 

[msommer]

I love the people who say "I know my rights!" When the fact is that the vast majority of them do not, In fAct, know their rights.

What about those of us that do?

Then you are smart enough to know that an officer saying, "hey, can you stop so I can talk to you" may not be the right ditch to die in.

That's not a violation of anyone's rights for a cop to do that.

That's my point.

Your point is outside the scope of the discussion though

 

[Politician Spock]

I love the people who say "I know my rights!" When the fact is that the vast majority of them do not, In fAct, know their rights.

What about those of us that do?

Then you are smart enough to know that an officer saying, "hey, can you stop so I can talk to you" may not be the right ditch to die in.

That's not a violation of anyone's rights for a cop to do that.

That's my point.

It's my right to answer "no".