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im starting jordan todman vs buf over ? (1 Viewer)

bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Eviloutsider said:
I would assume MJD will play of he was close last week (testing it before the game). In that case, Todman is WW fodder in most leagues.
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close? he was listed as doubtful, when he hurt the hammy it looked like he could barely walk, heck the Jagq might shut him down, people are getting shut down left and right across the league
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Yeah He never even got in a limited practice last week

 
Rotoworld:

Maurice Jones-Drew (hamstring) did not practice Wednesday.

As expected. Don't look for Jones-Drew to practice much at all this week. Per John Oehser of the team's official website, MJD may not practice until Friday. That may even be a stretch. Jordan Todman has explosive speed around the edges and handled himself well in Jones-Drew's absence against the Bills, totaling 153 yards on 29 touches. Todman needs to be owned in all formats.
 
CBS had MJD red-lighted for practice, but they are saying he's "slated" to return Friday. Weird to say, but my deep league championship just might rest on Jordan Todman lol.

 
Todman may be worth starting even if mjd plays. No way mjd gets his normal reps and he's one play away from sitting back on the bench with that bad hammy

 
The Titans run defense, wow:

They've given up 1-2 TDs every single week to RBs except for the NYJ (week 4) and PIT (week 1, when they had LSH & Redman).

Todman actually had a TD against them week 10, without PPR he and MJD combined for 20.7 FFP vs TEN.

Without PPR, total FFP allowed to RB's (note this is combined, all RBs for a team vs TEN):

HOU 24.6

SD 21.1

NYJ 14.4

KC 31.0

SEA 31.1

SF 24.8

STL 30.9

Jax 20.7

IND 29.0

Oak 24.0

IND 17.2

DEN 31.6

ARI 35.6 (Mendenhall just put up 20.3 in 0.5 PPR)

 
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Kwai Chang Caine said:
bleachercreacher said:
I'm going back and forth between him and Chris Johnson. CJ has a good matchup, but I don't know if I can trust him.
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Is his matchup that good really? The Jags are improved. I have the same dilemma and every week I look for reasons sit Johnson but he usually produces something. This is a tricky one.
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The Jags are improved but he is that player that can get 20+ points in a quarter of football, that's what keeps us coming back for more. (I'll sit him this week, with ADP likely a go, or Toadman as a backup).

 
Right now, in over Peterson. If MJD sits, this is a damn tough call. Tennessee has given up so many points to the top RB/top 2 RBs (with splits), like 25-40 PPR points in close to every game since week 5, including to the Raiders, Colts, Arizona, Broncos and Jax, not exactly the stalwarts of the NFL. If MJD sits, I can't imagine Todman not being in line for 15 points in PPR as his floor. Cincy on the other hand has given up 1 TD to running backs since week 3 and that was last week and it was a 1 yard TD the play after recovering a Cincy fumble during a punt. Cincy has been stingy against the run and only given up PPR points via receptions and Peterson is only averaging 2 receptions per game, they aren't using him in the pass game much at all.

It is hard to sit Peterson, but man, if MJD doesn't play, Todman has one of the best matchups that might make me sit Peterson. Cincy 1 TD allowed to RBs since week 3 on a fluke 1 yard attempt versus Tenn 17 TDs allowed to RBs since week 3 and 8 RBs to have at least 100 total yards. The worst lead RB against Tennessee since week 3 was Powell in week 4 with 14 PPR points.

 
I'm looking at this pool of players and trying to figure out how to fit Todman into my lineup

RB: M. Forte, E. Lacy, S. Vereen, J. Todman, B. Rainey

WR: D. Thomas, A. Brown, K. Allen

Right now I am thinking about starting Forte, Lacy, Thomas, Brown, and either Allen or Todman. I'm leaning Todman.

 
stbugs said:
Right now, in over Peterson. If MJD sits, this is a damn tough call. Tennessee has given up so many points to the top RB/top 2 RBs (with splits), like 25-40 PPR points in close to every game since week 5, including to the Raiders, Colts, Arizona, Broncos and Jax, not exactly the stalwarts of the NFL. If MJD sits, I can't imagine Todman not being in line for 15 points in PPR as his floor. Cincy on the other hand has given up 1 TD to running backs since week 3 and that was last week and it was a 1 yard TD the play after recovering a Cincy fumble during a punt. Cincy has been stingy against the run and only given up PPR points via receptions and Peterson is only averaging 2 receptions per game, they aren't using him in the pass game much at all.

It is hard to sit Peterson, but man, if MJD doesn't play, Todman has one of the best matchups that might make me sit Peterson. Cincy 1 TD allowed to RBs since week 3 on a fluke 1 yard attempt versus Tenn 17 TDs allowed to RBs since week 3 and 8 RBs to have at least 100 total yards. The worst lead RB against Tennessee since week 3 was Powell in week 4 with 14 PPR points.
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We should know by Friday I hope.
 
Picked him up as a block to my opponent that has subpar RB's but now I'm thinking about flexing him. My options are:

Chris Johnson @ JAX

Andre Brown @ DET

Vincent Jackson @ STL

Jordan Todman vs TEN

Currently have CJ in there. Todman is a close 2nd though, assuming MJD doesn't play. The only thing I'm scared about CJ is that he's never had a good game when I've started him (hasn't been often).

 
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Considering him over Bush. The NYG and Titans give up about the same point per game. The Titans give them up on the ground, whereas the NYG give them up in the air though.

So, to me, this means Calvin will probably have a huge game and may limit Bush.

 
rjv said:
stbugs said:
Right now, in over Peterson. If MJD sits, this is a damn tough call. Tennessee has given up so many points to the top RB/top 2 RBs (with splits), like 25-40 PPR points in close to every game since week 5, including to the Raiders, Colts, Arizona, Broncos and Jax, not exactly the stalwarts of the NFL. If MJD sits, I can't imagine Todman not being in line for 15 points in PPR as his floor. Cincy on the other hand has given up 1 TD to running backs since week 3 and that was last week and it was a 1 yard TD the play after recovering a Cincy fumble during a punt. Cincy has been stingy against the run and only given up PPR points via receptions and Peterson is only averaging 2 receptions per game, they aren't using him in the pass game much at all.

It is hard to sit Peterson, but man, if MJD doesn't play, Todman has one of the best matchups that might make me sit Peterson. Cincy 1 TD allowed to RBs since week 3 on a fluke 1 yard attempt versus Tenn 17 TDs allowed to RBs since week 3 and 8 RBs to have at least 100 total yards. The worst lead RB against Tennessee since week 3 was Powell in week 4 with 14 PPR points.
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We should know by Friday I hope.
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Yeah, the problem for me is what if MJD is out and Peterson is active. Their matchups are such polar opposites that the risk of Peterson not finishing again versus what appears to be very nice floor for Todman without MJD. I honestly think I would go with Todman as crazy as it sounds.

 
Not to mention 8....8 targets against BUFF........which means he will be involved in their 2 minute/catch up mode packages as well!

 
dfwboiler said:
Considering him over Bush. The NYG and Titans give up about the same point per game. The Titans give them up on the ground, whereas the NYG give them up in the air though.

So, to me, this means Calvin will probably have a huge game and may limit Bush.
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I think I would make that call as well if NJD is inactive. Bush has been dinged lately and if the Lions get up early (the Giants will lay down without Cruz in that case), they could decide to run Bell a lot more touches the rest of the game.

 
if MJD is out I plan on using todman over S Jax (@ SF) and Sproles (@ car) in a 0.5 ppr

the espn beat writer for the jags had a blog today and he spoke to MJD, friday is going to be the day obviously...

http://espn.go.com/blog/jacksonville-jaguars/post/_/id/3062/jacksonville-jaguars-mailbag-14




@ESPNdirocco Is MJD going to play?

DiRocco: I talked to Maurice Jones-Drew on Thursday, and it doesn’t sound likely. He said he’s going to try, but it all depends on how the hamstring responds on Friday when he tests it for the first time this week. If it still doesn’t allow him to accelerate with power, prevents him from sudden changes of direction and robs him of his burst, he’s not going to play. Then we’d see another huge dose of Jordan Todman, who filled in pretty well for Jones-Drew last week.
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I have Todman rostered but would have to play him over Lacy or R. Bush at RB and I just can't see doing that with a title on the line.

At least my opponent (MJD owner) can't use him.

 
kOOk said:
Grace Under Pressure said:
Gore and Alf owners have tough decisions this week. Good matchups, but inconsistent recently.
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Seriously? Gore is auto this weekend.
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Gore's in my lineup currently, but he's been very mediocre for 6 weeks now: 11, 7, 4, 11, 11, 9.

Todman's last 6 weeks: 8, 2, 4, 5, 10, 17. And he was only the starter for the last game.

As I said, good matchup for Gore, but if MJD doesn't play then Todman could easily be a good call over Frank this week.

 
Grace Under Pressure said:
kOOk said:
Grace Under Pressure said:
Gore and Alf owners have tough decisions this week. Good matchups, but inconsistent recently.
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Seriously? Gore is auto this weekend.
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Gore's in my lineup currently, but he's been very mediocre for 6 weeks now: 11, 7, 4, 11, 11, 9.

Todman's last 6 weeks: 8, 2, 4, 5, 10, 17. And he was only the starter for the last game.

As I said, good matchup for Gore, but if MJD doesn't play then Todman could easily be a good call over Frank this week.
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You're right. i misunderstood you. I just think gore is going to go off against atlanta. its been tough sledding for him in some of those matchups you reference. this is a whole other world with atl. and i think jim will let the big dog eat finally. partly a gut decision but i can see some stats padded or what have you.

 
kOOk said:
Grace Under Pressure said:
kOOk said:
Grace Under Pressure said:
Gore and Alf owners have tough decisions this week. Good matchups, but inconsistent recently.
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Seriously? Gore is auto this weekend.
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Gore's in my lineup currently, but he's been very mediocre for 6 weeks now: 11, 7, 4, 11, 11, 9.

Todman's last 6 weeks: 8, 2, 4, 5, 10, 17. And he was only the starter for the last game.

As I said, good matchup for Gore, but if MJD doesn't play then Todman could easily be a good call over Frank this week.
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You're right. i misunderstood you. I just think gore is going to go off against atlanta. its been tough sledding for him in some of those matchups you reference. this is a whole other world with atl. and i think jim will let the big dog eat finally. partly a gut decision but i can see some stats padded or what have you.
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I think so too, and ultimately think Gore has a pretty sure shot at a TD this week. That's making it kind of tough there.

Same with Alf. Great matchup, but he's been pretty pedestrian lately. 14, 9, 5, 11, 3, 11 in his last 6, but he should have a good game against allas.

 
i will be shocked i tell ya if Gwar doesn't put up at least 100 and a touch.

i havent had my eye on alf so can't say much there besides the mess they are in. that alone would give me pause. sf otoh is a big going away party on mnf.

 
If MJD is out, Todman is a top 5 play this week. Titans give up the 3rd most points to the RB this year. Combine that with the 25 carries and 8 targets he got last week and this is a no brainer. Only guys I wouldn't start him over are McCoy, Lacy, Forte, and Charles. Opportunity meets volume with a hungry, young, FAST running back.

 
Braktastic said:
I'm looking at this pool of players and trying to figure out how to fit Todman into my lineup

RB: M. Forte, E. Lacy, S. Vereen, J. Todman, B. Rainey

WR: D. Thomas, A. Brown, K. Allen

Right now I am thinking about starting Forte, Lacy, Thomas, Brown, and either Allen or Todman. I'm leaning Todman.
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Been trying the same to get him in there.

Right now its Moreno, Lacy and Bush...like another in here...considering it for Bush, but thats hard to do right now.

 
Insein said:
If MJD is out, Todman is a top 5 play this week. Titans give up the 3rd most points to the RB this year. Combine that with the 25 carries and 8 targets he got last week and this is a no brainer. Only guys I wouldn't start him over are McCoy, Lacy, Forte, and Charles. Opportunity meets volume with a hungry, young, FAST running back.
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And add in a TD.

 
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