Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Lance Nemark has been hired as GM.
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Indefinite New York Jets Official thread - **2025 season** - The indefinite rebuild continues (9 Viewers)
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zamboni
Footballguy
Didn't see it as official, but all signs point to a package Newmark/Glenn deal happening today.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'm not going to pretend to know if Aaron Glenn will be a good HC or not - obviously we all want an offensive minded coach for good reason - but if Glenn is able to bring in a creative OC (maybe someone that worked under Ben Johnson, maybe Brunell) it could still work out.
Obviously we've all been beaten down and are expecting the next disaster but as Tom Petty once said "even the losers get lucky sometimes."
Obviously we've all been beaten down and are expecting the next disaster but as Tom Petty once said "even the losers get lucky sometimes."
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jwb
Footballguy
Given what's out there, I feel like this is the best direction they could take.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I don't see anyway Aaron Rodgers is coming back to work with a rookie HC and staff - so there's that at least. 
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Those fans are idiots considering Goff had 4 turnovers including one that was returned for a TD.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
I mean Detroit was a bigger joke than the Jets and managed to turn it around - and these 2 guys were a solid part of it. Hopeful thing is they didnt even have to draft a top QB - they basically rejuvenated a QB everyone had one step away from the scrap heap. Its amazing how much better Goff looked with a creative OC, solid OL and weapons galore.
I think they take a break from the rookie QB carousel and go with a non Rodgers vet to compete with Tyrod - maybe Fields - also draft another developmental project. They have a solid core - everyone could see with less than horrific coaching/kicker they should have at least been a 8 win team last season even more. This is not a tear down to the studs job - if Glenn can get the stink off and motivate/coach better than Saleh (very low bar) and Newark adds to this core - no reason why they cant be playing meaningful games in december next year
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Now this would be very solid!
[Hughes]If the #Jets hire Aaron Glenn as head coach, a name I’ve heard associated with him as a defensive coordinator candidate is Steve Wilks. Long-time assistant with multiple stops as a DC who also has two stints as a head coach. That’s valuable experience for a first timer in Glenn.
RC94
Footballguy
This would be a great hire for DC. The OC hire is going to be critical.
While this GM and HC combo, along with strong coordinator hires, are cause for excitement, I remember it was basically the same thing when they hired Douglas and Saleh. It's always going to be Woody and/or his kids who will find a way to ruin even good hires, like he did with the previos GM and HC. Nemark/Glenn/Wilks is a great start. I feel like I should be more excited than I am.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Woody is not a good owner - but its getting overblown a bit.
He is known to give his hires time to implement their vision. He's kept some GM/coaches too long -
problem is after 2-3 seasons instead of just cutting the cord he gets antsy and starts meddling. Id like to think the huge embarrassment from the article as to his son and him would make him even more conservative. He's always there but Im not concerned hes going to meddle from day 1 - if the new HC/GM are still looking mid by year 3 then get ready for the Woody show.
RC94
Footballguy
I agree he will most likely give them a couple of years before he really starts meddling, like he did with the previous regime, but the problem is that this team needs more than 2 years to become a super bowl contender. As a result, it's a never-ending cycle. I'm even more concerned now about the meddling because his kids are old enough where he wants them more involved. I really don't think Woody or his kids care about what the fans or media think. I've always gotten the impression it's more like a fantasy team to them, especially his kids.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
The problem is that everyone that is crying about hiring Glenn is saying that that they hate it because we didn't interview/get a great offensive coach.
While I can agree with that sentiment, the problem is that the fans are not being rational. None of those guys wanted to interview with us - and you can't really blame them. This is where careers go to die. It's hard to get angry about not hiring a guy that didn't want your job.
However, laying beneath that rubble of anger is a lot of frustration about Woody and his organization structure. We can't really say that it's exaggerated when it's a common complaint by fans and people in the org. All we can do is hope Woody addresses it or sells the team. We can't pretend it's not an issue.
Btw, I just got a call that I'm not getting either job. Sounds like they are close to making the announcement.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Woody's not selling....there were no solid former HC available....the few decent OC's were not interested. Under the circumstances I think Glenn is the best hire they can make. Seems very different than Saleh.
I see your Ranger avatar - if Dolan can change and put out a winner(s) - why not Woody! Im choosing to be excited - Jets are champions of the offseason so why not be optimistic and enjoy landing one of the top coordinators in the NFL who is a former player and wants to be here - we have the actual season to be miserable! lol
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Dolan eventually got out of the way and let his hockey GMs/Presidents run the team. He meddled again several years ago when he fired his GM and President after getting upset that his team was too soft and was embarrassed by Tom Wilson of the Caps on national tv. He wasn't wrong, but may have been a bit rash in firing well respected John Davidson and Jeff Gorton.
Anyway,despite some middling success in making the playoffs, the new GM (Drury) hasn't been very good.
Well, I'm hoping Woody sees the error of his ways. Adding a President of Operations now would be a good start, but I'm not hearing anything about that now. We'll see.
zamboni
Footballguy
Ok Boomer
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Boomer, Chad Ford, and Colin Cowherd are always emphatically wrong.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
@Schultz_Report
Sources: Aaron Glenn has landed back in Detroit, via Woody Johnson’s plane.
No deal as of now, but sources say a substantial offer was made and the Jets’ job “is his if he wants it."
Glenn is currently constructing his potential staff, which would ideally include Lions quarterbacks coach Mark Brunell — if he doesn’t get the OC job in Detroit — who could be in play as the OC for Glenn.
I’m also told Glenn wants to bring in a veteran DC who has been a former NFL head coach. Glenn, sources say, is still putting his offensive staff together. Former Jets special teams coach Mike Westhoff could be an option, should he decide to come out of retirement.
Glenn is currently scheduled to interview with the Saints later this week.
Sources: Aaron Glenn has landed back in Detroit, via Woody Johnson’s plane.
No deal as of now, but sources say a substantial offer was made and the Jets’ job “is his if he wants it."
Glenn is currently constructing his potential staff, which would ideally include Lions quarterbacks coach Mark Brunell — if he doesn’t get the OC job in Detroit — who could be in play as the OC for Glenn.
I’m also told Glenn wants to bring in a veteran DC who has been a former NFL head coach. Glenn, sources say, is still putting his offensive staff together. Former Jets special teams coach Mike Westhoff could be an option, should he decide to come out of retirement.
Glenn is currently scheduled to interview with the Saints later this week.
RC94
Footballguy
It must not have been that substantial if he left without signing it. This sounds like his sources are memebers the NYJ ownership team, not Glenn's people.
zamboni
Footballguy
Certainly could be the case, or perhaps it’s Glenn wanting to do his full due diligence and see what the Saints have to offer. Hoping it’s the latter, but who knows.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Saleh did the same - left the building but took the job soon therafter - never made it to his next interview. If Glenn makes it to the Saints interview then all bets are off but weather delayed it a few days so theres time.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
So with Ben Johnson leaving are the Lions promoting Mark Brunnell? It seems like Johnson's departure hurts the Jets' Brunnell chances a bit.
zamboni
Footballguy
Kind of wild that the two leading OC mentions are former Jets journeyman QBs in Brunell and McCown. But that's how we roll.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
You would think Brunnell would have the inside track to a Lions promotion to OC but you never know - they may be eying up someone else. Have a feeling AG is a done deal but they gave him time to go home for a day or 2 to discuss and get a jump on his staff.
I like former QBs like Brunell and McCown as coaches - journeyman QBs make good coaches - Kingsbury and O'Connell - also stints with the Jets
Current Lions passing game coordinator Tanner Engstrand is considered the favorite for the Lions offensive coordinator. Brunell is one of a few that might be considered.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
Planning to take the job as early as yesterday - we hiring Aaron Glenn or Marty McFly?
NYRAGE
Footballguy
No need to warm up the DeLorean. It was just poorly written.
zamboni
Footballguy
Didn’t see official but enough reports saying it’s in place.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Didn’t see official but enough reports saying it’s in place.
I also saw that they are continuing their GM interviews.
Fat Clemenza
Footballguy
*** backwards Jets. I hope Glenn hires a good GM he can work with. 
zamboni
Footballguy
Did Glenn clog up the toilet or something in the Jets' locker room back in 1994? Not sure what Boomer's issues are.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Boomer is turning into his nickname
Chemical X
Footballguy
one of the many issues i have with the jest is how the gm and coach report separately in the chain of command. it leaves a lot of backstabbing and these 2 guys being out for themselves instead of being tied together. this is a big reason this team fails.
zamboni
Footballguy
I don't know how all teams operate - is this an unusual chain of command or is it just the individuals involved with the Jets why they can't play nice.
TLEF316
Footballguy
I believe the Jets are one of only 2 teams that doesn't have a Owner--->GM-----> HC chain of command.
zamboni
Footballguy
Which is the other team?
NYRAGE
Footballguy
I don't think it really matters. I guess they identified Glenn as the guy they had to have to change the culture of the team. The searches were done concurrently, so whatever GM candidates that they are looking at it must have indicated that they would like to work with Glenn. Vrabel, Johnson, and Glenn were the consensus leading candidates for most teams.
As bad as things are for us, imagine being a Jags fan. They are interviewing for coaches, but only after doing so, they realize that their GM is a detriment to the coaching hire. Now they fire their GM after conducting their interviews. What a s-show. They wanted Coen, but he said no thanks. I hope they end up with phony Saleh.
sheerterror
Footballguy
On paper, yes 100%. But in fairness to this most recent outstanding regime - JD and Saleh really didn't feel like they had that disconnect professionally and certainly not personally despite that paradigm. JD wasn't even the one who fired Saleh, and apparently Saleh was very upset when he found out they fired JD too. Having said that, JD was part of the hiring process for Saleh (quite the concept!) so that likely contributed to them having some personal allegiances towards each other even as Woody gradually injected himself into the mix as the tenure wore on.