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Indefinite New York Jets Official thread - **2025 season** - The indefinite rebuild continues (4 Viewers)

i see alot of optimism here about the jest and i am still skeptical. simply being a lifelong fan makes me a skeptic, until i see wins. the defensive backfield remains a sieve, as this franchise hates safeties. as long as stephens is on the field it negates gardner, as teams have an easy way around. i am encouraged by the OL, but i’d be happier if 2 premium picks weren’t wasted on bec(weighs a)ton and avt. would love another wr this century, having hall operate as wr2 will cause problems for fields. i disagree with @Ministry of Pain , as i see 5-12. i don’t see NE nor Mia sweeps, maybe a split in the best scenario. i think this team has a chance for an 0-6 start, with 3 of those at home.
Did you watch Miami this past Sunday, it's a dumpster fire right now
 
i see alot of optimism here about the jest and i am still skeptical. simply being a lifelong fan makes me a skeptic, until i see wins. the defensive backfield remains a sieve, as this franchise hates safeties. as long as stephens is on the field it negates gardner, as teams have an easy way around. i am encouraged by the OL, but i’d be happier if 2 premium picks weren’t wasted on bec(weighs a)ton and avt. would love another wr this century, having hall operate as wr2 will cause problems for fields. i disagree with @Ministry of Pain , as i see 5-12. i don’t see NE nor Mia sweeps, maybe a split in the best scenario. i think this team has a chance for an 0-6 start, with 3 of those at home.
Did you watch Miami this past Sunday, it's a dumpster fire right now

I can see 7 or 8 wins for the Jets.
 
i see alot of optimism here about the jest and i am still skeptical. simply being a lifelong fan makes me a skeptic, until i see wins. the defensive backfield remains a sieve, as this franchise hates safeties. as long as stephens is on the field it negates gardner, as teams have an easy way around. i am encouraged by the OL, but i’d be happier if 2 premium picks weren’t wasted on bec(weighs a)ton and avt. would love another wr this century, having hall operate as wr2 will cause problems for fields. i disagree with @Ministry of Pain , as i see 5-12. i don’t see NE nor Mia sweeps, maybe a split in the best scenario. i think this team has a chance for an 0-6 start, with 3 of those at home.
To quote someone here about Mia "I don't think I've seen a team give up before the season started"

I see two ways the jets lose to Mia. One, total house sweep of Mia before their game or Jets are playoff darlings and they just need to beat an easy opponent to clinch something and irony exists. Otherwise MIA is playing for Manning and whoever the next head coach is.
 
Guys, I have good news. Twitter is going nuts after watching the game film of our last two OL draft picks. Membou and Fashanu are getting raves. Membou didn't give up a single pressure and was lined up against Watt most of the day. Some of the things they're pointing out are quite insane.

We should be thrilled to have these guys. They're just doing work. Gives me hope.
 
didn't throw a single pass over 20 yards in the air
I had mentioned Smith’s game plan was all short passes to DK and the TEs and let them run after the catch but didn’t realize it was that drastic.
Also hard to get the deep routes developing when the LT lets the Jet player run past them. Steelers, maybe they know their flaws, and had to run the quick hitting stuff. HAving Metcalf run after a catch is never a bad thing. If its a TE centric west coast offense, I am fine with that. Jonnu isnt a bad player to run that with.
The Steelers OL, basically LT, is going to be an issue every game. I think the other 4 OL did okay, didnt run the ball worth a crap, but that pass rush, or lack of blocking the pass rush, can be dangerous. Hate to think what Myles Garrett is gonna do to Brod Jones. 😱
I thought Bro Jones was a stud and Pitt/Belichick conspired to screw over the hapless Jets that were asleep at the switch and after missing out on Jones panicked and reached for a project in Will McDonald lol

I know its fun to "grade" a draft right after but this is a good reminder to let things play out - yes AVT/Becton were busts but this one played out well at least so its not all doom.
For sure, I was happy when the Steelers got Jones, his college tape, while limited in snaps, looked like high potential. He has been moved around the first 2 years, playing RT instead of LT, so vs the Jets was his first real action at LT. So maybe there is some chance he becomes decent, but I doubt the Steelers will be extending him his 5th yr option, at least not for now.
So if the QB draft plan doesnt work out, they could move to OT.
 
This cat Gipson had ten fumbles in thirty-five games? I think releasing him now doesn’t really address what should have been addressed before and at the appropriate time. Why is the universally panned CB2 out there getting toasted while the dude that stymied everybody when he played was cut and then claimed by Cleveland?

You want to give these new guys grace because if they manage to develop a QB and install an offense that averages twenty-two or so points a game I’ll give them a bunch of free passes, but one sort of hopes they learn extraordinarily quickly and that there aren’t learned lessons but prevented ones.
 
Actually, if they do that with the offense I’ll have keys to any city they want made and shipped to them (or personally delivered). The fantasy amateur scouts are in love with the Jets’ offensive designs and plays. I’ll pull some Twitter quotes and post here. It’s really exciting—not gonna lie.


Ian Hartitz

@Ihartitz
·Sep 9

Jets with Justin Fields + Tanner Engstrand:-Pre-snap shift/motion: Jets were bottom-10 offense (45%) in this last season, but ranked sixth in Week 1 (66%).-Dropback rate over expected: NFL's fourth-most pass-heavy offense in 2024 (+4.1%), now easily the most run heavy (-20%)
https://x.com/ScoopCityShow
Scoop City
https://x.com/ScoopCityShow
@ScoopCityShow
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Sep 9


It was the Jets' 𝙤𝙛𝙛𝙚𝙣𝙨𝙚 that looked so Lions-esque in New York's first game under Aaron Glenn, says
@DMRussini
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@ChaseDaniel
breaks down how Tanner Engstrand unlocked the best qualities of Justin Fields: https://youtube.com/watch?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhtwitter&utm_content=app.dashsocial.com%2Fscoop-city%2Flibrary%2Fmedia%2F579825615&v=FAFp7XBAZdM

Ryan Heath

@RyanJ_Heath
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Sep 8

Week 1 play action and during-snap motion rates for teams who've played so far, via
@FantasyPtsData
- Klint Kubiak (Seahawks) having the lowest play action rate was not on my bingo card- Tanner Engstrand (Jets) might be sharp- Patullo (Eagles) and Caley (Texans) look rough

 
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Wild that we almost traded for Parsons. Apparently the deal fell through due to his contract demands. This is a wild story. I'm not sure we would have been any better. We have a lot of holes.


Almost traded??? Here is Jerry's exact quote: “Just frankly, (they) didn’t have the resources to entertain conversation,”

I think different people are reporting different things then.

Oh, Connor Hughes had to edit what he posted before.


Yeah, the previous link goes nowhere because Hughes (at least to me) reported that the Jets had agreed to a deal but then their negotiations with Parsons got too expensive. I think that my understanding of what Hughes wrote was commonly shared, which is probably why he deleted the tweet and posted a new one.

This is the new one. He says he needed to edit it. I'm pretty sure he did because I'm not just thinking things and it struck me as odd that they would proceed in that order, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

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Connor Hughes

@Connor_J_Hughes

Editing this to make it more clear.

The #Cowboys, Micah Parsons had verbally agreed to a deal with $150m GTD. Then things fell apart between them.

The #Jets were never going to go that high, so the brief talks between them ended. No trade was ever agreed to. All else a moot point.

Jerry Jones spoke to @GaryMyersNY yesterday about talks between NYJ, Dallas before Parsons was ultimately traded to Green Bay.

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So yeah, I wasn't wrong nor inaccurate when I posted what Hughes said. Here's a comment from the new one, even, which I have no idea why these comments are still there. And take it easy, RAGE, or people will get this idea that you're some kind of angry guy. Here are comments from people that are evidence that what I thought isn't far off and that it's likely Hughes's fault (I can read, even early on Sunday morning).

The Buffalo Jet Fan
@BuffaloJetFan
·2h

So the Jets were willing to send Q and two 1s but not meet Parsons $ demnands?

BB
@burnerman_86 ·2h

How did you possibly word that so poorly the first time if that’s what you were trying to say
 
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Ooooweeeee. Aaron is wound so tightly that I'm not sure that's going to work. You need to thread the needle to coach the Jets. You'd better have your sense of humor and wits about you. Parcells couldn't even take us to a Super Bowl and never really did solve the quarterback riddle. Testaverde was good for him, but he had his fatal flaw of age and we wound up sick to our stomachs and rooting for Ray Lucas.

You need to have a deep sense of irony and acceptance that things along the way might be cruel and ****ty, but that it'll be worth it in the end.
 
Knew the game was over after the clemens penalty and the fumble. Turned it off 5 mins into the 2nd half.

Hate that I skipped a golf day to watch that slop. Won't make the same mistake next week. I get that the bills are super bowl good, but this was an absolute disaster effort plagued by the same discipline problems of the prior regime.

So glad I don't live and die by this team. Can't imagine what's that's like
 
Wild that we almost traded for Parsons. Apparently the deal fell through due to his contract demands. This is a wild story. I'm not sure we would have been any better. We have a lot of holes.


Almost traded??? Here is Jerry's exact quote: “Just frankly, (they) didn’t have the resources to entertain conversation,”

I think different people are reporting different things then.

Oh, Connor Hughes had to edit what he posted before.


Yeah, the previous link goes nowhere because Hughes (at least to me) reported that the Jets had agreed to a deal but then their negotiations with Parsons got too expensive. I think that my understanding of what Hughes wrote was commonly shared, which is probably why he deleted the tweet and posted a new one.

This is the new one. He says he needed to edit it. I'm pretty sure he did because I'm not just thinking things and it struck me as odd that they would proceed in that order, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes

Editing this to make it more clear.

The #Cowboys, Micah Parsons had verbally agreed to a deal with $150m GTD. Then things fell apart between them.

The #Jets were never going to go that high, so the brief talks between them ended. No trade was ever agreed to. All else a moot point.

Jerry Jones spoke to @GaryMyersNY yesterday about talks between NYJ, Dallas before Parsons was ultimately traded to Green Bay.

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So yeah, I wasn't wrong nor inaccurate when I posted what Hughes said. Here's a comment from the new one, even, which I have no idea why these comments are still there. And take it easy, RAGE, or people will get this idea that you're some kind of angry guy. Here are comments from people that are evidence that what I thought isn't far off and that it's likely Hughes's fault (I can read, even early on Sunday morning).

The Buffalo Jet Fan
@BuffaloJetFan
·2h

So the Jets were willing to send Q and two 1s but not meet Parsons $ demnands?

BB
@burnerman_86 ·2h

How did you possibly word that so poorly the first time if that’s what you were trying to say
Not really looking to battle over semantics, but it was wrong because we didn't almost trade for Parsons. That feckless ginger is never right. For god's sake, he's finally watching the Sopranos after all these years. It's hard to take that guy seriously if you see the drivel he posts.

Anyway, yes, I am an angry person, specifically between the hours of 12-3 pm CST on Sundays. Garbage product today. As soon as the game ends, I'm moving on to fantasy football. To be honest, even when I'm watching the Jets and I haven't missed a game in over 30 years, I'm still mostly thinking about fantasy football.

The most disappointing part has to be why can't management see stuff that is clear to the rest of us? Last week, Gipson and Stephens. This week Clemons. He shouldn't be on the team. I've been saying that since the beginning of man like the scenes from 2001 A Space Odyssey. He set the tone today with that moronic penalty. When you make a career out of stupid penalties,then how can anyone be shocked when he commits another one today at a crucial moment.

Hey Mougey and Glenn, that lion has bit the heads off of anyone that puts it in the lion's mouth. Mougey and Glenn: No, today will be different. Head gets chomped. Ask Siegfried and Roy how that worked out.

Anyway, so much for making an example out of people hurting the team. My friend swore that he had played his last down of the game. I said, I'll believe it when I see it. It didn't take long. Clemons was back in on the following series. Anyway, any bum off of anyone's practice squad would be better.

Why is Lazard still on the team? At some point he will finally play and drop a key pass to lose the game. It's inevitable.

There is nothing good to say about today's game. We were awful from start to finish and worse than Buffalo in every aspect.
 
Not really looking to battle over semantics, but it was wrong because we didn't almost trade for Parsons

Oh, it was clearly wrong what he wrote. I was saying, in effect, "Don't blame me, man!" I took him at his reported word. Regardless, I'm not soft-boned or thin-skinned so it's okay.

I stopped watching the game intently immediately after—not the Bills scoring but right away—the Clemons penalty. I've been a fan for so long that I've seen how that movie ends. You're exactly right. When somebody who doesn't know the X's and O's of football like me can see the problem from light years away, there's not excuse for a Glenn or a Mougey to miss the painfully obvious. I know we've both (you mainly) complained about it repeatedly, so then there is no reason to trust the guys with the X's and O's knowledge when they miss basic stuff like that. It's as if by virtue of being an expert they suddenly become stupid, or there's another reason, and it's something you and I gently debated a few months ago. And that is this: this team has a serious talent deficit on the roster. This is a team filled with a whole lot of guys in a whole lot of positions on the roster that are NFL dregs. We have a very good cornerback, a very good wide receiver, a very good running back, a hell of a defensive tackle, a very good pass rushing EDGE, one very good linebacker and an undersized but decent second linebacker, a possibly preternaturally gifted left tackle and burgeoning offensive line in general. That's twelve guys that are above league-average players. We're beginning to put the pieces together, but brother, the rest of this team is or can be el stinko. Like embarrassingly bad. I just shook my head at Justin Fields today. It was awful. His QBR was 1.1. But forget that. Let's wipe the slate clean for him and add Isaiah Davis to the list of quality players, and maybe say we have fourteen guys that are NFL guys that you look at and go, "Heck, we got something." But we need a whole lot more than fourteen.

I will say this: I am seeing a lot of red flags but I at least trust the earnestness of the people running the show. They're all new to this, too. I'm going to give Mougey his mulligan for a draft pick like Arian Smith. I'm going to be gracious about a bunch of errors because they're learning as they go. But even though I hate Glenn's treatment of the press, at least I can see that these are guys that want it done the right way and will hold people accountable for their effort and intangibles. We had a coach in Saleh and a GM in Douglas (A GM who I did kind of like a bunch, but hear me out) who might have not been the most stalwart, high-character guys you hope for. Now, maybe I'm asking too much of these men who make quite a bit of money and have quite a bit of prestige and riches to lose, but you would have hoped that Douglas would have told ownership a thing or two about what was appropriate and what he would or wouldn't do. Saleh I knew was a lost cause from the jump and I've explained why I on this board and I don't know if my memory is playing tricks on me so I'll go no further, but if you use the search engine for "Saleh, brother" and select the commenter as me, you'll see it. I never trusted him and I'm all over these threads saying it. Something was really wrong with that guy and I don't care if he's DC in San Francisco. He's their ******** problem again.

Anyway, let's see how the organization and its players respond to today. One of the worst things for an organization is instability and we've got some guys with character; let's hope they have the football knowledge, scouting, foresight, and overall intelligence to make this happen for once. Clear the runway, Jets are taking flight.
 
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Wild that we almost traded for Parsons. Apparently the deal fell through due to his contract demands. This is a wild story. I'm not sure we would have been any better. We have a lot of holes.


Almost traded??? Here is Jerry's exact quote: “Just frankly, (they) didn’t have the resources to entertain conversation,”

I think different people are reporting different things then.

Oh, Connor Hughes had to edit what he posted before.


Yeah, the previous link goes nowhere because Hughes (at least to me) reported that the Jets had agreed to a deal but then their negotiations with Parsons got too expensive. I think that my understanding of what Hughes wrote was commonly shared, which is probably why he deleted the tweet and posted a new one.

This is the new one. He says he needed to edit it. I'm pretty sure he did because I'm not just thinking things and it struck me as odd that they would proceed in that order, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

_________________________________

Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes

Editing this to make it more clear.

The #Cowboys, Micah Parsons had verbally agreed to a deal with $150m GTD. Then things fell apart between them.

The #Jets were never going to go that high, so the brief talks between them ended. No trade was ever agreed to. All else a moot point.

Jerry Jones spoke to @GaryMyersNY yesterday about talks between NYJ, Dallas before Parsons was ultimately traded to Green Bay.

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So yeah, I wasn't wrong nor inaccurate when I posted what Hughes said. Here's a comment from the new one, even, which I have no idea why these comments are still there. And take it easy, RAGE, or people will get this idea that you're some kind of angry guy. Here are comments from people that are evidence that what I thought isn't far off and that it's likely Hughes's fault (I can read, even early on Sunday morning).

The Buffalo Jet Fan
@BuffaloJetFan
·2h

So the Jets were willing to send Q and two 1s but not meet Parsons $ demnands?

BB
@burnerman_86 ·2h

How did you possibly word that so poorly the first time if that’s what you were trying to say
Not really looking to battle over semantics, but it was wrong because we didn't almost trade for Parsons. That feckless ginger is never right. For god's sake, he's finally watching the Sopranos after all these years. It's hard to take that guy seriously if you see the drivel he posts.

Anyway, yes, I am an angry person, specifically between the hours of 12-3 pm CST on Sundays. Garbage product today. As soon as the game ends, I'm moving on to fantasy football. To be honest, even when I'm watching the Jets and I haven't missed a game in over 30 years, I'm still mostly thinking about fantasy football.

The most disappointing part has to be why can't management see stuff that is clear to the rest of us? Last week, Gipson and Stephens. This week Clemons. He shouldn't be on the team. I've been saying that since the beginning of man like the scenes from 2001 A Space Odyssey. He set the tone today with that moronic penalty. When you make a career out of stupid penalties,then how can anyone be shocked when he commits another one today at a crucial moment.

Hey Mougey and Glenn, that lion has bit the heads off of anyone that puts it in the lion's mouth. Mougey and Glenn: No, today will be different. Head gets chomped. Ask Siegfried and Roy how that worked out.

Anyway, so much for making an example out of people hurting the team. My friend swore that he had played his last down of the game. I said, I'll believe it when I see it. It didn't take long. Clemons was back in on the following series. Anyway, any bum off of anyone's practice squad would be better.

Why is Lazard still on the team? At some point he will finally play and drop a key pass to lose the game. It's inevitable.

There is nothing good to say about today's game. We were awful from start to finish and worse than Buffalo in every aspect.
as a fan, i already knew this season was gonna be hot garbage, but i wanted to give it a game or 2 before i bailed on wasting my sundays. luckily the games here are at 7p. today i was able to completely fill my bingo card quickly; clemons roughing penalty, fields fumble, josh allen rush over 25 yards and quinnen williams seemingly inactive. i hate quinnen just so everyone knows. i don’t have to watch anymore and i can wait for my 0-6 prediction to come accurate. couple of late meaningless wins and another crappy wasted pick between 10-15. i don’t blame mougey and glenn, douglas left them bereft of talent, but roostering clemons and stephens and gipson are on them. also, without a qb (and fields isn’t it), they go nowhere anyway.
 
Wild that we almost traded for Parsons. Apparently the deal fell through due to his contract demands. This is a wild story. I'm not sure we would have been any better. We have a lot of holes.


Almost traded??? Here is Jerry's exact quote: “Just frankly, (they) didn’t have the resources to entertain conversation,”

I think different people are reporting different things then.

Oh, Connor Hughes had to edit what he posted before.


Yeah, the previous link goes nowhere because Hughes (at least to me) reported that the Jets had agreed to a deal but then their negotiations with Parsons got too expensive. I think that my understanding of what Hughes wrote was commonly shared, which is probably why he deleted the tweet and posted a new one.

This is the new one. He says he needed to edit it. I'm pretty sure he did because I'm not just thinking things and it struck me as odd that they would proceed in that order, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

_________________________________

Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes

Editing this to make it more clear.

The #Cowboys, Micah Parsons had verbally agreed to a deal with $150m GTD. Then things fell apart between them.

The #Jets were never going to go that high, so the brief talks between them ended. No trade was ever agreed to. All else a moot point.

Jerry Jones spoke to @GaryMyersNY yesterday about talks between NYJ, Dallas before Parsons was ultimately traded to Green Bay.

_____________________________________________________________________________

So yeah, I wasn't wrong nor inaccurate when I posted what Hughes said. Here's a comment from the new one, even, which I have no idea why these comments are still there. And take it easy, RAGE, or people will get this idea that you're some kind of angry guy. Here are comments from people that are evidence that what I thought isn't far off and that it's likely Hughes's fault (I can read, even early on Sunday morning).

The Buffalo Jet Fan
@BuffaloJetFan
·2h

So the Jets were willing to send Q and two 1s but not meet Parsons $ demnands?

BB
@burnerman_86 ·2h

How did you possibly word that so poorly the first time if that’s what you were trying to say
Not really looking to battle over semantics, but it was wrong because we didn't almost trade for Parsons. That feckless ginger is never right. For god's sake, he's finally watching the Sopranos after all these years. It's hard to take that guy seriously if you see the drivel he posts.

Anyway, yes, I am an angry person, specifically between the hours of 12-3 pm CST on Sundays. Garbage product today. As soon as the game ends, I'm moving on to fantasy football. To be honest, even when I'm watching the Jets and I haven't missed a game in over 30 years, I'm still mostly thinking about fantasy football.

The most disappointing part has to be why can't management see stuff that is clear to the rest of us? Last week, Gipson and Stephens. This week Clemons. He shouldn't be on the team. I've been saying that since the beginning of man like the scenes from 2001 A Space Odyssey. He set the tone today with that moronic penalty. When you make a career out of stupid penalties,then how can anyone be shocked when he commits another one today at a crucial moment.

Hey Mougey and Glenn, that lion has bit the heads off of anyone that puts it in the lion's mouth. Mougey and Glenn: No, today will be different. Head gets chomped. Ask Siegfried and Roy how that worked out.

Anyway, so much for making an example out of people hurting the team. My friend swore that he had played his last down of the game. I said, I'll believe it when I see it. It didn't take long. Clemons was back in on the following series. Anyway, any bum off of anyone's practice squad would be better.

Why is Lazard still on the team? At some point he will finally play and drop a key pass to lose the game. It's inevitable.

There is nothing good to say about today's game. We were awful from start to finish and worse than Buffalo in every aspect.
as a fan, i already knew this season was gonna be hot garbage, but i wanted to give it a game or 2 before i bailed on wasting my sundays. luckily the games here are at 7p. today i was able to completely fill my bingo card quickly; clemons roughing penalty, fields fumble, josh allen rush over 25 yards and quinnen williams seemingly inactive. i hate quinnen just so everyone knows. i don’t have to watch anymore and i can wait for my 0-6 prediction to come accurate. couple of late meaningless wins and another crappy wasted pick between 10-15. i don’t blame mougey and glenn, douglas left them bereft of talent, but roostering clemons and stephens and gipson are on them. also, without a qb (and fields isn’t it), they go nowhere anyway.

I want to be positive, but I feel all of this and then some. I really did quit watching as soon as Clemons did that. I simply shook my head and proceeded to type a few pissed off things into the game thread and I stopped watching the game. I feel similarly to you. ****, you're more exacting than I am with your bingo card. You at least make it show you a pattern. I see one thing and I know that it's a distilled essence of suck. So many things have to be fundamentally wrong with the organization for that play to happen that I'm reminded it's not worth my spirit or attention.

I mean, I know that he shouldn't be out there. NYRAGE has been saying the same thing about this dude for at least two if not three years. NYRAGE is not rage. You don't get your average, decent fan to say things like, "shoot this guy into the sun and make sure he never comes back" if there isn't something obviously wrong with the player he's speaking of and the situation they've created with him. And if the Jets organization either a) can't figure out up close what people over a thousand miles away can see, or b) they have figured it out, but they're so bereft of talent that they have to let this person operate, then I really want nothing to do with the organization until they either straighten it out and live up to their big talk about character, or they ditch the character concerns and put a cold-blooded team of winners on the field. And I only offer the second part as an option because I've already half sold my soul by supporting and cheering for A-aron at one point.

It's all disgusting, really, and at least you, Chemical X, have a beautiful country to enjoy while dealing with this cursed fandom—or at least I think you have Italy as your backdrop—I don't necessarily get to keep up all the time with your visa exploits (heh), which, incidentally, I hope are going well. But man, in my mind at least you have the Italian countryside, or some sort of habitable dwelling in Italy from which to operate while folks like us this past Sunday had the privilege (?) of sorting through morbid and absurdly violent and unnecessary current events that some us loathe in every way, but are forced to pay attention to while a bunch of jackals shove the pressing news nobody wants into our consciousness; all this while we're simply trying to just watch an obviously flawed football team that two years ago had us attuned and dabbling in understanding things like the sociocultural leanings of the Pat McAfee phenomenon and then whispers about false flag school shootings that were given life by our slightly loony quarterback either in a fit of wildly awful humor or dead seriousness; or, sadly, that our loopy quarterback was possibly a mark for salacious rumors and stories like that floating around about him that people believed because he was what you might call enigmatic at best.

So this organization we're speaking of—with its horrendous, nepo-pushing ambassador of garbage in and garbage out that doubles as its owner—has not quite earned my own Sunday time, and I treat it with a flicker here and there of a stupidly pure hope every so often, but I realize that it's really just my entry into discussions and participation in fantasy football, where if I'm to be felled by idiocy, at least it is my own.

I'm not even angry as I type this, nor do I try and protest too much or get angsty about it—it's just a **** organization and I know it. So I don't invest the days in it. I move on like you. Anyway, ciao, brother. Thanks for giving me an ear and I hope you keep on keeping on.
 
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And that is this: this team has a serious talent deficit on the roster
rock pretty much nailed it here. I have little doubt that Glenn and Co. will have this team heading in the right direction, and if they don’t, they’ll be sent packing. But that can only get you so far when you’re bereft of talent at many key positions relative to so many other teams in the conference. The concern is that some of the highly paid guys - who are safe on the roster - start jawboning and things get out of control (again).
 
After a long day at Met Life I am physically, mentally and spiritually drained. Sitting between the just about 50% crowd of raucous Bills fans taking over the stadium was exhausting. Watching the Jets play a game that may as well been coached by Bowles, Gase, Saleh, Ulrich is my biggest gripe.

The bar is set extremely low as we saw last week's backslapping still even after blowing yet another game they should win. All I want to see is clean, well coached competitive football while looking competent on both sides of the ball. What we got yesterday was awful and unacceptable. AG gets a pass as its his 1st disaster as a HC and they played an all world team but the Jets looked like they didnt want to be near that field.

First cracks in AG armor - Penalties galore after preaching discipline as a core. Just like Gipson had not business on the roster - clemmons should follow yet he remains along with a few others. Biggest concern was the presser. I get he wants to be the anti-Saleh and spar with the media but Parcells knew how to keep it a reasonable level and always had a playful respectful relationship with the press. He needs to adapt a bit or the press is gonna be out for him early.

As Rex Ryan did - bury this gameball and move on -
 
And that is this: this team has a serious talent deficit on the roster
rock pretty much nailed it here. I have little doubt that Glenn and Co. will have this team heading in the right direction, and if they don’t, they’ll be sent packing. But that can only get you so far when you’re bereft of talent at many key positions relative to so many other teams in the conference. The concern is that some of the highly paid guys - who are safe on the roster - start jawboning and things get out of control (again).
the garrett wilson comments, with piles of “i don’t knows” was telling. i have many many issues but, this team is short offencively, especially without a franchise qb. if the defence is a literal sieve, then all those defensive number ones are wasted and you have to start building the d again. rinse repeat.
 
fyi, between 2014-17 the jest had 34 draft picks. 2 are still in the league. 2!!!

extra credit if you can name them.

one of those drafts was the immortal idzik. i think that draft class was instantly out of the league.
 
Glad I spent the day at a music festival instead of being subjected to that game.

Who did you see?
Sea Hear Now Festival in my hometowm, Asbury Park, this weekend.

Bands I saw.

Saturday

Inhaler
UB40
ZZ Top
De La Soul
Alabama Shakes
LCD Soundsystem
Hozier

Sunday

Neal Francis
4 Non Blondes
Spoon
Public Enemy
TV on the Radio
Lenny Kravitz
Sublime
Blink-182
 
Just not worth getting worked up about it. We all know how this ends.

Thankfully I have some other things to do the next few weekends. Any excuse not to watch this crap
i think the worst thing for a pro team from its fans is apathy. i see people in the stands and i know the cost and the effort just to get to that hideous stadium. i get the feeling that the apathy is getting worse. games already feel 50/50. i’ve said this countless times, but a horrid team can’t afford to play 17 road games.
 
fyi, between 2014-17 the jest had 34 draft picks. 2 are still in the league. 2!!!

extra credit if you can name them.

one of those drafts was the immortal idzik. i think that draft class was instantly out of the league.
To be fair, the average NFL tenure is like 3 years, but that would be giving this team a lifeline they don’t deserve.

I thought Darnold might be one but he was 2018.
 
fyi, between 2014-17 the jest had 34 draft picks. 2 are still in the league. 2!!!

extra credit if you can name them.

one of those drafts was the immortal idzik. i think that draft class was instantly out of the league.
To be fair, the average NFL tenure is like 3 years, but that would be giving this team a lifeline they don’t deserve.

I thought Darnold might be one but he was 2018.
leonard (low impact) williams
jamal (patch) adams
 
after watching this team for 45 years, its really not a big deal anymore. I get hyped enjoy the off-season and when it crashes and burns I just flip to redzone and my fantasy team. I enjoyed going to camp this year, but glad I am not sinking any real money into this product.
 
Just not worth getting worked up about it. We all know how this ends.

Thankfully I have some other things to do the next few weekends. Any excuse not to watch this crap
i think the worst thing for a pro team from its fans is apathy. i see people in the stands and i know the cost and the effort just to get to that hideous stadium. i get the feeling that the apathy is getting worse. games already feel 50/50. i’ve said this countless times, but a horrid team can’t afford to play 17 road games.
could not agree more, apathy is a killer and we are there now.. just can't care that much and each year I check out earlier and earlier in the season.
 
fyi, between 2014-17 the jest had 34 draft picks. 2 are still in the league. 2!!!

extra credit if you can name them.

one of those drafts was the immortal idzik. i think that draft class was instantly out of the league.

I would guess some offensive lineman. Those guys can usually hang around the league.
 
As a Jets fan of 50 years, it's painful after 2 games to be getting the typical Jets coachspeak.

We need to execute better.
We're going to watch the tape and work hard.
Blah blah blah.

Eventually, that gets old after he says it every single week for 3 months....then the pitchforks and torches come out.
 
Glad I spent the day at a music festival instead of being subjected to that game.

Who did you see?
Sea Hear Now Festival in my hometowm, Asbury Park, this weekend.

Bands I saw.

Saturday

Inhaler
UB40
ZZ Top
De La Soul
Alabama Shakes

LCD Soundsystem
Hozier

Sunday


Neal Francis
4 Non Blondes
Spoon
Public Enemy
TV on the Radio
Lenny Kravitz
Sublime

Blink-182
Extremely jealous, especially of the bolded. We looked into tickets but it was an already busy weekend for us and by the time we were ready to commit it was sold out.
 
Per q Williams, the Jets d made a pact that they won't allow 200 yards rushing in a game again.

So that settles that.

Just not a serious franchise at all. Just play decent football. Nobody wants to hear anything. Just put a product on the field that is watchable.
 
Per q Williams, the Jets d made a pact that they won't allow 200 yards rushing in a game again.

So that settles that.

Just not a serious franchise at all. Just play decent football. Nobody wants to hear anything. Just put a product on the field that is watchable.
But "Big ships turn slow. Every day we're going to chop wood". Fantastic. The Jets pr guy was was very proud of our next t-shirt.
 
Per q Williams, the Jets d made a pact that they won't allow 200 yards rushing in a game again.

So that settles that.

Just not a serious franchise at all. Just play decent football. Nobody wants to hear anything. Just put a product on the field that is watchable.
But "Big ships turn slow. Every day we're going to chop wood". Fantastic. The Jets pr guy was was very proud of our next t-shirt.
It's only been since 1969. We need to have more patience.
 
They could have quit. Will McDonald made a play like I've never seen. That is just raw athleticism. If he could play run defense he'd easily be an All-Pro. Wow.

Incredible.

But Jets gonna Jet. Sauce concussed on a tackling effort. Sort of didn't show up for a while. 0-3. Better than that thing we did against Buffalo.

eta* I shouldn’t say that. I’ve def seen Polamalu do it—and others—but I’ve never seen a Jet do anything remotely that athletic, disruptive, and smooth.
 
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Jeez. Watching the highlights and that was just an unbelievable individual effort by McDonald.

Bunch of last-minute blocks today. Coaches need to tighten up their special teams protection and make sure the guys are actually blocking like they mean it.
 
I can't take much positive away from this game tbh despite them making it close. Still way too many mental mistakes and penalties. Still can't get off the field on third down on defense. Got destroyed on the same blitz play seemingly a dozen times without an adjustment. Still look like a really bad football team more than half of the time. I want to believe in Glenn, but i still haven't seen the signs of change I'm looking for.
 
I can't take much positive away from this game tbh despite them making it close. Still way too many mental mistakes and penalties. Still can't get off the field on third down on defense. Got destroyed on the same blitz play seemingly a dozen times without an adjustment. Still look like a really bad football team more than half of the time. I want to believe in Glenn, but i still haven't seen the signs of change I'm looking for.

I hear you. Tampa didn't help out with game flow. Their team was much more undisciplined. Todd Bowles. Hah. LOL.
 
I don't even know what to say about today's game. That's all. Ha.

Ok, I'll try. Nice play by Will. Not for a second did I think we were going to win. I'm conditioned to think the worst....and for good reason.

Everyone seems mad by AG's dance. Can't blame him for being excited. It was a crucial play at the time.

Oh yeah, almost forgot to mention that Clemons stinks. Oh, and Sauce is overrated. Oh and Stephens sucks. And Tyler Johnson is not good. And even dopey Lazard can make an average play difficult with his butterfingers. And Poor gutsy Tyrod is going to wake up sore. He hung in there on every pass and got walloped as he threw the pass. May God (if he/she exists) have mercy on our loyal masochistic souls.
 
Missed the first 3 quarters playing golf.....glad I did. The 4th quarter was fun (although I'm pretty sure Lazard dropped that TD) and the McDonald play was great....but we all knew what was coming.

To be fair, I'm guessing most teams would have a hard time not giving up a FG attempt with that much time on the clock, but with this franchise it was a certainty that it would be less than 40 yards and that they would make it.

dont see a QB worth tanking for yet, so whatever.
 

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