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Indefinite New York Jets Official thread - **2025 season** - The indefinite rebuild continues (4 Viewers)

I like these moves. Q and Sauce made some nice plays on occasion, but honestly, the Jets were terrible with these guys. Even with the decent defensive rankings the last few years, did any of you ever feel we had a great D that could shut down the other team when needed? I sure didn't. I could see the new regime thinking they weren't good fits, overrated, or simply wanted to turn them into (pretty excellent) draft capital.
 
name me quinnen williams’ top 3 plays as a jet? he’s a 28 year old interior lineman making a boat load. not gonna win on his timeline, may as well reset. maybe someone wants sherwood?
Agreed, no different than when we cashed out on Leonard Williams, except we're doing it a year "too early" and getting a nice return.
 
Jets are killing it. Insane draft capital.
2026: 2 1sts NYJ, IND
2026: 2 2nds NYJ, Dal
2027 3 1sts NYJ, Dal, IND
2027 1 2nd: NYJ

Mougey better make that count.
And cleared a ton of $.

Lord I hope they move GW to a team with a good passing offense.
If i'm the GM Wilson is the most untouchable player along with the OTs. Pretty much anyone else is on the table for the right price. I'd be shocked if Wilson was moved.
@Connor_J_Hughes
Spoke to a team that called the #Jets recently about WR Garrett Wilson. With Sauce Gardner dealt, feeling around the NFL is anyone can be had. Not the case with Wilson. Conversations did not progress. He's untouchable.
 
Jets are killing it. Insane draft capital.
2026: 2 1sts NYJ, IND
2026: 2 2nds NYJ, Dal
2027 3 1sts NYJ, Dal, IND
2027 1 2nd: NYJ

Mougey better make that count.
And cleared a ton of $.

Lord I hope they move GW to a team with a good passing offense.
If i'm the GM Wilson is the most untouchable player along with the OTs. Pretty much anyone else is on the table for the right price. I'd be shocked if Wilson was moved.
@Connor_J_Hughes
Spoke to a team that called the #Jets recently about WR Garrett Wilson. With Sauce Gardner dealt, feeling around the NFL is anyone can be had. Not the case with Wilson. Conversations did not progress. He's untouchable.
As I said - I think this is about a shift - dump the defensive studs for capital and invest in the O....as such they keep GW and Breece to give the new QB weapons with a solid OL. Enough capital to draft QB and another top WR. Also hope one of the 2 lotto WRs acquired can be #3 WR and the O is now NFL level. AG can coach up the D - they have shown they can land solid role players for reasonable $/picks
 
1st look on overthecap -

Jets to have over $100M cap space in 2026 and $210M in 2027 - more than enough to extend Breece and JJ plus a ton more.

Throw in 2 1sts and 2 2ds in 2026 along with 3 1sts in 2027

Like it or hate it - its a much better position to rebuild
I love what the Jets did, mainly because they desperately need a QB and now they have plenty of ammo to get one.
 
1st look on overthecap -

Jets to have over $100M cap space in 2026 and $210M in 2027 - more than enough to extend Breece and JJ plus a ton more.

Throw in 2 1sts and 2 2ds in 2026 along with 3 1sts in 2027

Like it or hate it - its a much better position to rebuild
I love what the Jets did, mainly because they desperately need a QB and now they have plenty of ammo to get one.
Its an offensive league and without one a team has little shot. If they do t his right and use all the high capital on QB, WR, etc they can finally put together a good O - then with all the cap space and sneaky trades plus AG schemes then the d can be good enough.

Sick of going all in on defense - it was time for a change
 
Jets are killing it. Insane draft capital.
2026: 2 1sts NYJ, IND
2026: 2 2nds NYJ, Dal
2027 3 1sts NYJ, Dal, IND
2027 1 2nd: NYJ

Mougey better make that count.
And cleared a ton of $.

Lord I hope they move GW to a team with a good passing offense.
If i'm the GM Wilson is the most untouchable player along with the OTs. Pretty much anyone else is on the table for the right price. I'd be shocked if Wilson was moved.
@Connor_J_Hughes
Spoke to a team that called the #Jets recently about WR Garrett Wilson. With Sauce Gardner dealt, feeling around the NFL is anyone can be had. Not the case with Wilson. Conversations did not progress. He's untouchable.
As I said - I think this is about a shift - dump the defensive studs for capital and invest in the O....as such they keep GW and Breece to give the new QB weapons with a solid OL. Enough capital to draft QB and another top WR. Also hope one of the 2 lotto WRs acquired can be #3 WR and the O is now NFL level. AG can coach up the D - they have shown they can land solid role players for reasonable $/picks
Agreed and I'm on board with it. How long have the Jets been built around a solid defense with no QB, no real offensive identity or talent? It feels like it's been that way forever. Let's build an offense that scores points and then worry about defense second.
 
I see Ja'sir Taylor added too.
Guy needs to cut his hair and recognize it's a sport he's playing.

NFL guidelines on hair- not longer than your girlfriend's
 
All 3 players they brought in today are young/cheap contracts with some upside. Not expected to be good but definite upgrades at WR and depth at CB/DL. They hit on Bri's Brownlee so hopefully one or two others hit as well.
 
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Congratulations on your team's impressive haul of draft picks today. This team will look a lot different 1,2,3 years from now. Hang in there.

Yeah, they might be able to spend those picks on an all-pro corner, a 1,000 Yard WR, one of the top RB's in the league and a productive pass rusher.....just like they did last time......

Seriously though....until one of those picks turns into a top 1/2 of the league QB, literally nothing else matters. This has been clear for a very long time and it seems like this regime recognizes that.
 
Crazy idea, but with all of this draft capital, I wonder if they can tempt HOU into trading Stroud.
Ive read they may not draft a QB this year and the 3 1st rders are for the better 2027 QB class. I could live with that and use the draft capital to add a #2 stud WR to go with GW and shore up the interior OL. Only concern is if AG has another awful year he may not survive it.

I wouldnt mind trading for an established young QB with some of the capital - not sure i love Stroud at what it would cost to get him. Maybe Mac Jones could be had for a 2d or 3rd to take a swing. Id love to find a young franchise QB while keeping all those 1srs to shore up other positions. If not draft one
 
Crazy idea, but with all of this draft capital, I wonder if they can tempt HOU into trading Stroud.
Ive read they may not draft a QB this year and the 3 1st rders are for the better 2027 QB class. I could live with that and use the draft capital to add a #2 stud WR to go with GW and shore up the interior OL. Only concern is if AG has another awful year he may not survive it.

I wouldnt mind trading for an established young QB with some of the capital - not sure i love Stroud at what it would cost to get him. Maybe Mac Jones could be had for a 2d or 3rd to take a swing. Id love to find a young franchise QB while keeping all those 1srs to shore up other positions. If not draft one

With the type of tear down the Jets GM just did, he'll probably give Glenn more leash.
 
Crazy idea, but with all of this draft capital, I wonder if they can tempt HOU into trading Stroud.
Ive read they may not draft a QB this year and the 3 1st rders are for the better 2027 QB class. I could live with that and use the draft capital to add a #2 stud WR to go with GW and shore up the interior OL. Only concern is if AG has another awful year he may not survive it.

I wouldnt mind trading for an established young QB with some of the capital - not sure i love Stroud at what it would cost to get him. Maybe Mac Jones could be had for a 2d or 3rd to take a swing. Id love to find a young franchise QB while keeping all those 1srs to shore up other positions. If not draft one

With the type of tear down the Jets GM just did, he'll probably give Glenn more leash.
Completely agree - yesterday was a vote of confidence for the new regime - just know how the media will be if they stink again next year lol
 
Crazy idea, but with all of this draft capital, I wonder if they can tempt HOU into trading Stroud.
Ive read they may not draft a QB this year and the 3 1st rders are for the better 2027 QB class. I could live with that and use the draft capital to add a #2 stud WR to go with GW and shore up the interior OL. Only concern is if AG has another awful year he may not survive it.

I wouldnt mind trading for an established young QB with some of the capital - not sure i love Stroud at what it would cost to get him. Maybe Mac Jones could be had for a 2d or 3rd to take a swing. Id love to find a young franchise QB while keeping all those 1srs to shore up other positions. If not draft one
I'd be on board with making a modest trade for Mac Jones to be a bridge QB next year and then waiting for the right time to draft the next QB. As you said, use your draft capital to build the offense around the QB. This is more along the lines of the Detroit blueprint Glenn loves to talk about. That way when they do actually bring in the guy it is in an offense built for them to succeed in, not one with a turnstile OL or sorely lacking weapons.

I don't see a QB like Stroud getting pried loose without it being a massive overpay and then that defeats the purpose. Please no to Kylar Murray, that's not the way to go. I've heard people mention Burrow's name on X and I just have to laugh. When was the last time a franchise QB in his prime was dealt? The Jets would have to trade their next 3 drafts and that still might not get it done. Here's my answer to the possibility of that ever happening:

 
Crazy idea, but with all of this draft capital, I wonder if they can tempt HOU into trading Stroud.
Ive read they may not draft a QB this year and the 3 1st rders are for the better 2027 QB class. I could live with that and use the draft capital to add a #2 stud WR to go with GW and shore up the interior OL. Only concern is if AG has another awful year he may not survive it.

I wouldnt mind trading for an established young QB with some of the capital - not sure i love Stroud at what it would cost to get him. Maybe Mac Jones could be had for a 2d or 3rd to take a swing. Id love to find a young franchise QB while keeping all those 1srs to shore up other positions. If not draft one
I'd be on board with making a modest trade for Mac Jones to be a bridge QB next year and then waiting for the right time to draft the next QB. As you said, use your draft capital to build the offense around the QB. This is more along the lines of the Detroit blueprint Glenn loves to talk about. That way when they do actually bring in the guy it is in an offense built for them to succeed in, not one with a turnstile OL or sorely lacking weapons.

I don't see a QB like Stroud getting pried loose without it being a massive overpay and then that defeats the purpose. Please no to Kylar Murray, that's not the way to go. I've heard people mention Burrow's name on X and I just have to laugh. When was the last time a franchise QB in his prime was dealt? The Jets would have to trade their next 3 drafts and that still might not get it done. Here's my answer to the possibility of that ever happening:

Same page - Mac Jones reminds me of Goff (not as accomplished of course) - but hes young - has shown he can play and lead. 1st rd pedigree. Would probably only take a 2d at best for him and hes cost controlled for another year - probably would agree to a modest extension. Fields can be backup with his last yr of contract.

2026 draft upgrade the O around them - Maybe take a rookie flyer in the 4th rd. Fill the holes in the Def through Fa and trades like hes been doing. If Mac looks legit then jackpot - they can use their 3 1sts to upgrade the team to playoff contender in 2027. If he whiffs then they have the ammo to land a high 1st rd QB.

If thats the plan Woody has to give the new regime at least 3 years - I can live with it as long as there is a plan and we see improvement even if not in wins.
 
Crazy idea, but with all of this draft capital, I wonder if they can tempt HOU into trading Stroud.
Ive read they may not draft a QB this year and the 3 1st rders are for the better 2027 QB class. I could live with that and use the draft capital to add a #2 stud WR to go with GW and shore up the interior OL. Only concern is if AG has another awful year he may not survive it.

I wouldnt mind trading for an established young QB with some of the capital - not sure i love Stroud at what it would cost to get him. Maybe Mac Jones could be had for a 2d or 3rd to take a swing. Id love to find a young franchise QB while keeping all those 1srs to shore up other positions. If not draft one
I'd be on board with making a modest trade for Mac Jones to be a bridge QB next year and then waiting for the right time to draft the next QB. As you said, use your draft capital to build the offense around the QB. This is more along the lines of the Detroit blueprint Glenn loves to talk about. That way when they do actually bring in the guy it is in an offense built for them to succeed in, not one with a turnstile OL or sorely lacking weapons.

I don't see a QB like Stroud getting pried loose without it being a massive overpay and then that defeats the purpose. Please no to Kylar Murray, that's not the way to go. I've heard people mention Burrow's name on X and I just have to laugh. When was the last time a franchise QB in his prime was dealt? The Jets would have to trade their next 3 drafts and that still might not get it done. Here's my answer to the possibility of that ever happening:

Same page - Mac Jones reminds me of Goff (not as accomplished of course) - but hes young - has shown he can play and lead. 1st rd pedigree. Would probably only take a 2d at best for him and hes cost controlled for another year - probably would agree to a modest extension. Fields can be backup with his last yr of contract.

2026 draft upgrade the O around them - Maybe take a rookie flyer in the 4th rd. Fill the holes in the Def through Fa and trades like hes been doing. If Mac looks legit then jackpot - they can use their 3 1sts to upgrade the team to playoff contender in 2027. If he whiffs then they have the ammo to land a high 1st rd QB.

If thats the plan Woody has to give the new regime at least 3 years - I can live with it as long as there is a plan and we see improvement even if not in wins.

The Jets could have had Mac Jones for 2 years, $7M last offseason. Instead they signed Fields for 2 years, $20M. Trading a 2nd or 3rd for Jones now is crazy talk. Just run with Fields and then after the 2026 season, sign Jones in FA if you don't draft a QB. Maybe sign him anyway and do like Minnesota did with Darnold.
 
Crazy idea, but with all of this draft capital, I wonder if they can tempt HOU into trading Stroud.
Ive read they may not draft a QB this year and the 3 1st rders are for the better 2027 QB class. I could live with that and use the draft capital to add a #2 stud WR to go with GW and shore up the interior OL. Only concern is if AG has another awful year he may not survive it.

I wouldnt mind trading for an established young QB with some of the capital - not sure i love Stroud at what it would cost to get him. Maybe Mac Jones could be had for a 2d or 3rd to take a swing. Id love to find a young franchise QB while keeping all those 1srs to shore up other positions. If not draft one
I'd be on board with making a modest trade for Mac Jones to be a bridge QB next year and then waiting for the right time to draft the next QB. As you said, use your draft capital to build the offense around the QB. This is more along the lines of the Detroit blueprint Glenn loves to talk about. That way when they do actually bring in the guy it is in an offense built for them to succeed in, not one with a turnstile OL or sorely lacking weapons.

I don't see a QB like Stroud getting pried loose without it being a massive overpay and then that defeats the purpose. Please no to Kylar Murray, that's not the way to go. I've heard people mention Burrow's name on X and I just have to laugh. When was the last time a franchise QB in his prime was dealt? The Jets would have to trade their next 3 drafts and that still might not get it done. Here's my answer to the possibility of that ever happening:

Same page - Mac Jones reminds me of Goff (not as accomplished of course) - but hes young - has shown he can play and lead. 1st rd pedigree. Would probably only take a 2d at best for him and hes cost controlled for another year - probably would agree to a modest extension. Fields can be backup with his last yr of contract.

2026 draft upgrade the O around them - Maybe take a rookie flyer in the 4th rd. Fill the holes in the Def through Fa and trades like hes been doing. If Mac looks legit then jackpot - they can use their 3 1sts to upgrade the team to playoff contender in 2027. If he whiffs then they have the ammo to land a high 1st rd QB.

If thats the plan Woody has to give the new regime at least 3 years - I can live with it as long as there is a plan and we see improvement even if not in wins.

The Jets could have had Mac Jones for 2 years, $7M last offseason. Instead they signed Fields for 2 years, $20M. Trading a 2nd or 3rd for Jones now is crazy talk. Just run with Fields and then after the 2026 season, sign Jones in FA if you don't draft a QB. Maybe sign him anyway and do like Minnesota did with Darnold.
teams could have had Darnold and Baker for cheap as well - they obviously whiffed on Fields. Mac has now shown to be very solid in Jax and now SF. If they think he could be a franchise QB Id be ok taking a shot at him. I do agree the main hope if for Fields to look better and run with him next year as hes under contract already
 
Apparently quincy Williams, who is a FA this summer and could have probably fetched a draft pick yesterday has been benched for underperformance

Make it make sense
 
Apparently quincy Williams, who is a FA this summer and could have probably fetched a draft pick yesterday has been benched for underperformance

Make it make sense
I wonder if the "underperformance" line is a cover for "disgruntled because your brother was traded and you weren't?" I heard the Jets and Cowboys were talking about a deal that would send both brothers to Dallas but it didn't work out.
 
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Garrett Wilson said Adonai Mitchell had “a hell of a day at practice” today.

“He can go up and get the ball. He’s hard to tackle and then you watch him move and you’re like: Oh, he don’t move like his size. He has great body control … we’re gonna use that boy. I’m excited to see what he does because he’s got it all.”
 
I fully expect people to complain about ruining the tank, ST TDs, Fields still being a terrible QB and beating teams from Ohio not being all that much of an accomplishment. I get all that, but the team played hard for Glenn out of the bye and after they made 2 huge trades that essentially threw up the white flag on the season. The defense was pretty good again despite losing arguably its 2 best players, ST was great, the OL held its own against a really good defense and one of the best pass rushers in the sport, Hall was great again and Glenn continues to show improvement in game management. They haven't lost in 3 weeks, I'll choose to enjoy it.

Wilson getting reinjured and Fields being terrible were the low points though obviously.
 
At first I didn't like the Sauce trade, but thinking about it like this makes me feel better about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvcqcphJjdU

Yeah, I've been reluctant to comment but I think I like the deals. My only qualm is who is implementing the systems and drafting the picks, and I think the jury is out on Mougey and Glenn (I'm still not ready to completely shut my mind about them).

Thanks for posting. This is a good segment.

My technical problem is that man-to-man might be dead in the NFL. That's going to be a problem, I think. Everything is Fangio and Cover 2+ and zone. That's what has killed offenses.
 
I fully expect people to complain about ruining the tank, ST TDs, Fields still being a terrible QB and beating teams from Ohio not being all that much of an accomplishment. I get all that, but the team played hard for Glenn out of the bye and after they made 2 huge trades that essentially threw up the white flag on the season. The defense was pretty good again despite losing arguably its 2 best players, ST was great, the OL held its own against a really good defense and one of the best pass rushers in the sport, Hall was great again and Glenn continues to show improvement in game management. They haven't lost in 3 weeks, I'll choose to enjoy it.

Wilson getting reinjured and Fields being terrible were the low points though obviously.
Agreed - im exhausted as to tanking and as we've seen it doesnt even promise you the best QB unless there is a generational prospect which there is not and even if there is as we've seen with Trevor its no sure thing. They have plenty of ammo to trade for or up for a QB at this point

It is much more valuable to build a positive culture - the losses will come as they just dont have the talent that most of these teams have but there are more than a few winnable games on the schedule and id like to see some wins....even ugly ones like yesterday!
 
Agreed - im exhausted as to tanking and as we've seen it doesnt even promise you the best QB unless there is a generational prospect which there is not and even if there is as we've seen with Trevor its no sure thing. They have plenty of ammo to trade for or up for a QB at this point

It is much more valuable to build a positive culture - the losses will come as they just dont have the talent that most of these teams have but there are more than a few winnable games on the schedule and id like to see some wins....even ugly ones like yesterday!
We had this same discussion with the Lions in Dan Campbell's first year when we were 0-10-1. We won 3 of our last 6. That was the Trevor Lawrence draft. We dropped to the 7th pick and got stuck drafting Penei Sewell.
 

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