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I think this might be a Honda.

But in case your thread isn't, you can boot this from a thumb drive that runs everything in RAM using the Tor network.

This might not be good for Homer.

 
I think this might be a Honda.

But in case your thread isn't, you can boot this from a thumb drive that runs everything in RAM using the Tor network.

This might not be good for Homer.
I'm scared of all this stuff. I can be plenty depraved on the regular tubes, thank you very much. No need to go any deeper.
 
Just did a quick search for the word 'darknet' and didn't see anything, so apologies if this has already been posted. Really fascinating article.http://thenewsjunkie.com/inside-the-deep-web-my-journey-through-the-new-underground/I can't cut and paste it so you're just gonna have to click the link.
Oh my. The UN should regulate this stuff or something!
 
I think this might be a Honda.

But in case your thread isn't, you can boot this from a thumb drive that runs everything in RAM using the Tor network.

This might not be good for Homer.
And I have no idea what this means. :thumbup:
Tails is an operating system based in Linux that can run off a flash drive that doesn't store anything on your computer. You can boot it from the flash drive on any PC before it loads into the OS. It runs in RAM, not on a hard drive. When you log off or shut down the Tails session, it clears the session data from the RAM. It uses the Tor network which helps mask your IP. You go through several 'hops' to connect. If you are in Omaha, Nebraska, it looks like you are in Austria or any other country to any website or network. You can use Tor within your OS (on Mac, PC, or Linux) too. Tails just adds another layer of anonymity because it runs off a flash drive.

 
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So is this a very good way to have Internet security, or is it only for deviant purposes? I guess what I am asking is, are there any mainstream uses for this?

 
So is this a very good way to have Internet security, or is it only for deviant purposes? I guess what I am asking is, are there any mainstream uses for this?
The purpose of its being seems to be based in web anonymity, and all the things you'd want it for. Which, speaking generally, are probably leaning towards devious intent. Performance wise, it's very slow too. This is because of how they're keeping your activity anonymous. Your requests/receipts jump tens/hundreds of times around the world to shield your activity. It was interesting to see the underbelly of the internet, but I'm enough entertained above ground. I don't need drugs/guns/someone offed/match fixing requests. All of which are there.
 
So is this a very good way to have Internet security, or is it only for deviant purposes? I guess what I am asking is, are there any mainstream uses for this?
Tor has a page saying who it is useful for:https://www.torproject.org/about/torusers.html.enBasically for those extremely worried about privacy or who have the absolute need to have their online activities be untraceable (i.e. foreign operatives, for example.) For "normal" people, basically for doing things that would get you in trouble if you did them on the normal web. I've logged on only to kinda see what was available, but didn't really want to click on much of what I found, some of which was pretty out there.
 
FBI Snags Silk Road Boss With Own Methods

By Greg Farrell - Oct 3, 2013 3:00 AM PT

From an Internet café in San Francisco, a 29-year-old free-market evangelist who called himself “Dread Pirate Roberts” used untraceable web services, an international network of servers and anonymous digital currency to run a global online exchange of cocaine and heroin beyond the reach of the law.

For two years, cybercrime experts from the FBI pored over the secretive online drug bazaar known as Silk Road -- an underground operation that had become, by the time the FBI shut it down this week, the venue for $1 billion worth of illegal transactions, according to prosecutors. Seeking the mastermind behind it, investigators began picking up clues: an anonymous posting to a website devoted to hallucinogenic mushrooms, recurring references to an Austrian school of economics, and early clues left on public sites including Google and LinkedIn.

Enlarge image FBI Captures Alleged Silk Road Pirate Boss Using His Own Methods

For two years, cybercrime experts from the FBI pored over the secretive online drug bazaar known as Silk Road -- an underground operation that had become, by the time the FBI shut it down this week, the venue for $1 billion worth of illegal transactions, according to prosecutors. Photographer: Chih Hsueh Tseng/Getty Images

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Oct. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Bitcoin, the digital currency, has gained prominence this year for its wild price swings and for piquing the interest of regulators from New York to Germany. Bloomberg's Stephanie Baker reports. (Source: Bloomberg)

A big break came in July, when a routine inspection of inbound mail from Canada turned up a parcel containing nine counterfeit IDs -- each with a different name, but all featuring the photograph of the same man.

According to a 33-page criminal complaint unsealed yesterday in Manhattan federal court, the man in the ID photos was Ross Ulbricht, Silk Road’s alleged overseer. FBI agents arrested Ulbricht in San Francisco the same day at the Glen Park library in San Francisco, where he had gone to log onto a computer, according to a person briefed on the matter.

The criminal complaint against Ulbricht depicts the dark side of Internet commerce. In it, special agent Christopher Tarbell of the FBI’s New York office described Silk Road as “the most sophisticated and extensive criminal marketplace on the Internet today” -- a virtual bazaar where buyers could find everything from heroin and hacking software to contact information for hit men in more than 10 different countries.

The Charges

Ulbricht stands accused of narcotics trafficking, money laundering, computer-hacking conspiracy and, in an indictment unsealed yesterday in Maryland, of attempted murder.

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The genius of Silk Road’s design and the reason it eluded the FBI’s grasp for so long, according to the complaint, was its impenetrability. The site was accessible only on a so-called tor network, which is designed to conceal the true Internet addresses of computers using it. Its exclusive reliance on Bitcoin, an anonymous digital currency, added another layer of protection for its buyers and sellers.

Since November 2011, Tarbell’s team made more than 100 purchases of drugs from Silk Road vendors, accepting shipments of ecstasy, cocaine, heroin, LSD and other drugs posted from 10 different countries, including the U.S., according to the complaint.

Magic Mushrooms

In the FBI’s bid to identify the individual behind Silk Road, an agent on Tarbell’s team combed through Internet postings and discovered the earliest mention of the site on shroomery.org, an informational website for consumers of “magic mushrooms,” in January 2011.

What in the World Is Bitcoin?

The posting, from someone with the username altoid, alerted the site’s visitors to Silk Road and asked if anyone had tried it. Two days later, someone using the same username posted a similar message on “bitcointalk.org,” a discussion forum for the virtual currency.

“The two postings created by ’altoid’ on Shroomery and Bitcoin Talk appear to be attempts to generate interest in the site,” Tarbell wrote. “The fact that ’altoid’ posted similar messages about the site on two very different discussion forums, two days apart, indicates that ’altoid’ was visiting various discussion forums…and seeking to publicize the site among the forum users -- which, based on my training and experience, is a common online marketing tactic for new websites.”

Austrian Connection

In October 2011, altoid surfaced again on the Bitcoin forum, seeking an “IT pro” to help build a Bitcoin startup company and directing potential job candidates to the Gmail account of someone named Ross Ulbricht. From a Google profile associated with the account, the FBI learned that Ulbricht had an interest in the Austrian school of economics and the Auburn, Alabama-based Ludwig von Mises Institute. According to the group’s website, it functions as a center of Libertarian political and social theory.

Similar sentiments are voiced on a page of professional networking site LinkedIn that is also attributed to Ulbricht, according to the complaint. In a LinkedIn profile accessed yesterday, a user identified as Ross Ulbricht describes himself as an “investment adviser and entrepreneur” and lists his interests as “trading, economics, physics, virtual worlds, liberty.”

Seeks Hit

Agents made a connection between Ulbricht and Silk Road: The site’s webmaster, who identified himself as Dread Pirate Roberts, made regular references to Austrian economic theory and the teachings of Mises to justify Silk Road’s existence.

The New York FBI agents weren’t the only lawmen gunning for Silk Road. In April 2012, a federal agent in Maryland began communicating with Dread Pirate Roberts in an undercover capacity, posing as a drug dealer.

In January, the undercover agent completed the sale of a small quantity of cocaine to a Silk Road employee and was paid the equivalent of $27,000 in Bitcoin currency. According to the Maryland indictment, Dread Pirate Roberts subsequently asked the undercover agent to murder an employee the site overseer believed to have stolen money from Silk Road.

During this time, Tarbell’s team in New York tracked the Silk Road webmaster’s online logins to an Internet café on Laguna Street in San Francisco, near an apartment where Ulbricht had moved.

Intercepted Mail

Meanwhile, on July 10 of this year, customs officials intercepted the package from Canada as part of what the complaint characterized as a routine inspection. The package, addressed to an apartment on 15th Street in San Francisco, contained nine counterfeit IDs, each in a different name, but all featuring a photo of the same person.

Agents from Homeland Security Investigations arrived on July 26 at the 15th Street address. There, according to the complaint, they encountered Ross Ulbricht, whose photo matched those on all nine fake IDs.

Confronted with a fake California driver’s license bearing his photo and birthdate but a different name, Ulbricht avoided answering questions about the purchase of false IDs, according to the complaint. Instead, he volunteered that “hypothetically” anyone could go onto a website named Silk Road and purchase any drugs or counterfeit IDs they wanted. Ulbricht then produced his real ID, a Texas driver’s license, according to the complaint, and explained that he was subletting a room in the apartment for $1,000 a month. According to the complaint, he also said the roommates knew him as “Josh.”

Fake ID

Following the confrontation, Tarbell and his team learned that in the weeks leading up to the discovery of the counterfeit identity papers, Dread Pirate Roberts had sent a series of private e-mails suggesting that he “needed a fake ID,” according to the complaint.

All the while, word of Silk Road and its bazaar of illicit goods and services spread around the Internet. In August, Forbes.com posted an interview with Dread Pirate Roberts that it said was conducted via messages sent through the site. “The highest levels of government are hunting me,” the cyber entrepreneur said, adding: “I can’t take any chances.”

Yesterday afternoon, Ulbricht surfaced at San Francisco’s Glen Park library, a small branch facility where public computers are located in front of the check-out desk. There, according to the person familiar with the matter, he was arrested by the FBI.

The criminal case is U.S. v. Ulbricht, 13-mg-023287; the civil forfeiture case is U.S. v. Ulbricht, 13-cv-06919, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York (Manhattan).
 
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The murder-for-hire part makes me not feel sorry for him at all, he ruined his chance of people feeling sorry for him with that.

He legit thought he arranged to kill 5 people. They ended up Fed setups but he believed he actually did it and wasn't phased.

 
The murder-for-hire part makes me not feel sorry for him at all, he ruined his chance of people feeling sorry for him with that.

He legit thought he arranged to kill 5 people. They ended up Fed setups but he believed he actually did it and wasn't phased.
I can understand this point of view, but we really don't know the full background behind those situations, or whether or not he was phased by them. :shrug:

Life in prison to a guy that young just seems so brutally unfair. I think most of it is just an attempt to send a message to dissuade future market owners. Obviously won't work, such a massive waste of resources.

 
The murder-for-hire part makes me not feel sorry for him at all, he ruined his chance of people feeling sorry for him with that.

He legit thought he arranged to kill 5 people. They ended up Fed setups but he believed he actually did it and wasn't phased.
I can understand this point of view, but we really don't know the full background behind those situations, or whether or not he was phased by them. :shrug:

Life in prison to a guy that young just seems so brutally unfair. I think most of it is just an attempt to send a message to dissuade future market owners. Obviously won't work, such a massive waste of resources.
You can read his chat logs where he discussed the hits and aftermath online. He 100% believed he had 5 people killed.

 
Life in prison is ridiculous. This guy isn't violent and he's not a threat to society. No need to keep him locked up for 60+ years. To me it looks like government exerting control where they had none before.

 
The murder-for-hire part makes me not feel sorry for him at all, he ruined his chance of people feeling sorry for him with that.

He legit thought he arranged to kill 5 people. They ended up Fed setups but he believed he actually did it and wasn't phased.
I can understand this point of view, but we really don't know the full background behind those situations, or whether or not he was phased by them. :shrug:

Life in prison to a guy that young just seems so brutally unfair. I think most of it is just an attempt to send a message to dissuade future market owners. Obviously won't work, such a massive waste of resources.
You can read his chat logs where he discussed the hits and aftermath online. He 100% believed he had 5 people killed.
Agree with you - that part makes it seem not as crazy for him to get life.

 
On what planet is life in prison an inappropriate sentence for a murder for hire? This is the sort of person that prisons exist for, not nonviolent drug dealers.

 
On what planet is life in prison an inappropriate sentence for a murder for hire? This is the sort of person that prisons exist for, not nonviolent drug dealers.
This. WTF is wrong with some of you. I know it's cool to yell 'victimless crime' or 'prison industrial complex' whenever drug offenses are prosecuted but this is different.
 
On what planet is life in prison an inappropriate sentence for a murder for hire? This is the sort of person that prisons exist for, not nonviolent drug dealers.
This. WTF is wrong with some of you. I know it's cool to yell 'victimless crime' or 'prison industrial complex' whenever drug offenses are prosecuted but this is different.
I didn't know he did murder for hire. So my mistake on that.

Having said that, I don't think any 31 year old should be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.

 
On what planet is life in prison an inappropriate sentence for a murder for hire? This is the sort of person that prisons exist for, not nonviolent drug dealers.
This. WTF is wrong with some of you. I know it's cool to yell 'victimless crime' or 'prison industrial complex' whenever drug offenses are prosecuted but this is different.
I didn't know he did murder for hire. So my mistake on that.

Having said that, I don't think any 31 year old should be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.
Any? That's quite a statement.
 
On what planet is life in prison an inappropriate sentence for a murder for hire? This is the sort of person that prisons exist for, not nonviolent drug dealers.
This. WTF is wrong with some of you. I know it's cool to yell 'victimless crime' or 'prison industrial complex' whenever drug offenses are prosecuted but this is different.
I didn't know he did murder for hire. So my mistake on that.

Having said that, I don't think any 31 year old should be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.
Any? That's quite a statement.
I'm quite a person.

And not really. What's the harm in giving someone life with the possibility of parole?

 
Not trying to defend murder for hire.

Ultimately, no one was murdered, there is no way to prove it was him behind the alias when those conversations took place, and as far as I've read he wasn't charged with anything related to that.

He's a 31 year old man who is spending the rest of his life in prison because he ran Craigslist for drugs.

 
Not trying to defend murder for hire.

Ultimately, no one was murdered, there is no way to prove it was him behind the alias when those conversations took place, and as far as I've read he wasn't charged with anything related to that.

He's a 31 year old man who is spending the rest of his life in prison because he ran Craigslist for drugs.
Of course there is a way to prove things like this. They had his laptop and they had admin access after they took it from him and he had logged in as his superuser name. Just like this site knows the ip adress of people using screennames and can put 2+2 together on alias usage and shared accounts, I would bet the techies at the FBI can handle things of that nature. You would be better served saying that they entrapped him with the murder for hire parts then to say that he was an innocent person. Read the part of the story where he tries to get a Hells Angle leader (or so he thinks) to kill multiple people and you might change that story. Don't forget that he paid them with bitcoins, which are totally traceable.

 
On what planet is life in prison an inappropriate sentence for a murder for hire? This is the sort of person that prisons exist for, not nonviolent drug dealers.
This. WTF is wrong with some of you. I know it's cool to yell 'victimless crime' or 'prison industrial complex' whenever drug offenses are prosecuted but this is different.
I didn't know he did murder for hire. So my mistake on that.

Having said that, I don't think any 31 year old should be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.
Any? That's quite a statement.
I'm quite a person.

And not really. What's the harm in giving someone life with the possibility of parole?
So you don't think anyone deserves live without parole? How about a 31-year old rapist/serial killer with 20 victims and no remorse?

 
Ulbricht was naive in thinking he could take on the USG directly and win.

But let's not kid ourselves: his "crimes" were against the state. That's why he received such a harsh sentence following a show trial.

Rapists and murderers get lighter sentences. Those are real crimes with actual victims.

 
On what planet is life in prison an inappropriate sentence for a murder for hire? This is the sort of person that prisons exist for, not nonviolent drug dealers.
This. WTF is wrong with some of you. I know it's cool to yell 'victimless crime' or 'prison industrial complex' whenever drug offenses are prosecuted but this is different.
I didn't know he did murder for hire. So my mistake on that.

Having said that, I don't think any 31 year old should be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.
LOL, well, you'd be wrong

 
On what planet is life in prison an inappropriate sentence for a murder for hire? This is the sort of person that prisons exist for, not nonviolent drug dealers.
This. WTF is wrong with some of you. I know it's cool to yell 'victimless crime' or 'prison industrial complex' whenever drug offenses are prosecuted but this is different.
I didn't know he did murder for hire. So my mistake on that.

Having said that, I don't think any 31 year old should be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.
LOL, well, you'd be wrong
How am I wrong?

 
On what planet is life in prison an inappropriate sentence for a murder for hire? This is the sort of person that prisons exist for, not nonviolent drug dealers.
This. WTF is wrong with some of you. I know it's cool to yell 'victimless crime' or 'prison industrial complex' whenever drug offenses are prosecuted but this is different.
I didn't know he did murder for hire. So my mistake on that.

Having said that, I don't think any 31 year old should be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.
Any? That's quite a statement.
I'm quite a person.

And not really. What's the harm in giving someone life with the possibility of parole?
So you don't think anyone deserves live without parole? How about a 31-year old rapist/serial killer with 20 victims and no remorse?
Correct. Life with the possibility of parole.

 
Ulbricht was naive in thinking he could take on the USG directly and win.

But let's not kid ourselves: his "crimes" were against the state. That's why he received such a harsh sentence following a show trial.

Rapists and murderers get lighter sentences. Those are real crimes with actual victims.
Are any of you actually reading the articles of what he did, or are you just following the narrative. I posted a link in here with multiple emails of him paying to have people killed who he felt did him wrong.

 
On what planet is life in prison an inappropriate sentence for a murder for hire? This is the sort of person that prisons exist for, not nonviolent drug dealers.
This. WTF is wrong with some of you. I know it's cool to yell 'victimless crime' or 'prison industrial complex' whenever drug offenses are prosecuted but this is different.
I didn't know he did murder for hire. So my mistake on that.

Having said that, I don't think any 31 year old should be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.
Any? That's quite a statement.
I'm quite a person.

And not really. What's the harm in giving someone life with the possibility of parole?
So you don't think anyone deserves live without parole? How about a 31-year old rapist/serial killer with 20 victims and no remorse?
Correct. Life with the possibility of parole.
Now you're just being silly.

 
On what planet is life in prison an inappropriate sentence for a murder for hire? This is the sort of person that prisons exist for, not nonviolent drug dealers.
This. WTF is wrong with some of you. I know it's cool to yell 'victimless crime' or 'prison industrial complex' whenever drug offenses are prosecuted but this is different.
I didn't know he did murder for hire. So my mistake on that.

Having said that, I don't think any 31 year old should be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.
Any? That's quite a statement.
I'm quite a person.

And not really. What's the harm in giving someone life with the possibility of parole?
So you don't think anyone deserves live without parole? How about a 31-year old rapist/serial killer with 20 victims and no remorse?
Correct. Life with the possibility of parole.
Do those 20 victims get the possibility of not having ever been raped/murdered in the future? Otherwise there's no reason for this hypothetical guy to ever have the possibility of parole.

 
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Ulbricht was naive in thinking he could take on the USG directly and win.

But let's not kid ourselves: his "crimes" were against the state. That's why he received such a harsh sentence following a show trial.

Rapists and murderers get lighter sentences. Those are real crimes with actual victims.
Are any of you actually reading the articles of what he did, or are you just following the narrative. I posted a link in here with multiple emails of him paying to have people killed who he felt did him wrong.
You would think he would have been charged with such a crime then. :shrug:

I understand folks are all caught up on the murder for hire aspect of this story, but it's irrelevant to his sentencing. There is simply no way to prove he was the person behind the keyboard when those conversations took place.

 
this whole thing is crazy i read the atrticles and this isway over my paygrade but i will say this if you are a purveyor of drugs then you are aiding the violence up and down the whole drug trade chain even if you are making the end delivery safer and at the end of the day people died because of the drugs this jerkalope aided them to get so life without parole seems pretty aok to me do the crime do the time take that ot the bank bromigos

 
Below, a few snippets from this article: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/founder-silk-road-drug-marketplace-195900814.html

"I'm not the man I was when I created Silk Road," Ulbricht told the court before the sentencing. "I wish I could go back and convince myself to take a different path."

Parents of drug-overdose victims reportedly spoke before sentencing, and Ulbricht started crying as he apologized.
"I never wanted that to happen," he said.

"Even now I understand what a terrible mistake I made," he wrote. "I've had my youth, and I know you must take away my middle years, but please leave me my old age. Please leave me a small light at the end of the tunnel, an excuse to stay healthy, an excuse to dream of better days ahead, and a chance to redeem myself in the free world before I meet my maker."

While Ulbricht's defense attorney, Joshua Dratel, never denied that Ulbricht had founded Silk Road, he argued that Ulbricht left the site at its peak for quite some time and only rejoined right before his arrest.

Dratel repeatedly claimed that somebody else took over the site after Ulbricht started and expanded it into the massive narcotics emporium it became. :rolleyes: However, the defense struggled throughout the trial to come up with alternative Dread Pirate Roberts, or DPRs — especially as the journal entries and chat logs found on Ulbricht's laptop (in which he refers to Silk Road as a "criminal enterprise") continue to incriminate him.

Dratel insisted the murder-for-hire charges were fabricated, and that there was no way to link any drug-related deaths to Silk Road. If anything, he argued, the website had provided a platform for buying and selling drugs that was "far safer" than traditional drug-dealing on the street. :thumbup:

Dratel refuted the prosecution's characterization of Ulbricht as a ruthless drug kingpin by capitalizing on the 31-year-old's compassionate nature and admirable personal traits. In its sentencing memorandum, the defense noted how Ulbricht was an Eagle Scout and "excelled in school," and has "a unique set of skills and traits that will enable him to become a valuable asset to his community."

The memorandum included letters from Ulbricht's fellow inmates, who described how Ulbricht had taught them yoga and meditation while tutoring others in math and physics.

 

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