iPad (3 Viewers)

[Slapdash]

Yay a new toy.

 

[[icon]]

The higher res screen will probably make the ipad3 worth it for me over the ipad2.

How much memory do you guys use on your current ipads? And can you sync with more than one computer, or is it like the iphone?

With iCloud and iTunes Match, I don't think I'd ever spend the money for anything more than 16GB

Depends on what you use it for. I travel extensively and not all flights have GoGo wifi internet. For that reason I keep my 32GB iPhone stocked with music as a fallback and use Spotify Premium for unlimited music access when I'm within a data connection.

ALSO:

With the improved rseolution of the iPhone's camera and ability to shoot HD video, the files for both are larger. If you're planning on using it for those purposes I'd plan on something a little bigger as well.

IMO a 32GB is the sweet spot. I wish I had gone 64GB with my iPhone. It's already almost full with music/pics/videos/apps.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The higher res screen will probably make the ipad3 worth it for me over the ipad2.

How much memory do you guys use on your current ipads? And can you sync with more than one computer, or is it like the iphone?

With iCloud and iTunes Match, I don't think I'd ever spend the money for anything more than 16GB

Depends on what you use it for. I travel extensively and not all flights have GoGo wifi internet. For that reason I keep my 32GB iPhone stocked with music as a fallback and use Spotify Premium for unlimited music access when I'm within a data connection.

ALSO:

With the improved rseolution of the iPhone's camera and ability to shoot HD video, the files for both are larger. If you're planning on using it for those purposes I'd plan on something a little bigger as well.

IMO a 32GB is the sweet spot. I wish I had gone 64GB with my iPhone. It's already almost full with music/pics/videos/apps.

I mean i will mostly use this as an eReader, web browser, and to watch netflix/crackle/etc. in bed or on the road. I do have a trip to Italy this summer, so I might want to load movies onto it rather than rely on USAirways wifi.Do you have to download movies, or can you rip DVDs onto the ipad?

 

[NewlyRetired]

The higher res screen will probably make the ipad3 worth it for me over the ipad2.

How much memory do you guys use on your current ipads? And can you sync with more than one computer, or is it like the iphone?

With iCloud and iTunes Match, I don't think I'd ever spend the money for anything more than 16GB

Depends on what you use it for. I travel extensively and not all flights have GoGo wifi internet. For that reason I keep my 32GB iPhone stocked with music as a fallback and use Spotify Premium for unlimited music access when I'm within a data connection.

ALSO:

With the improved rseolution of the iPhone's camera and ability to shoot HD video, the files for both are larger. If you're planning on using it for those purposes I'd plan on something a little bigger as well.

IMO a 32GB is the sweet spot. I wish I had gone 64GB with my iPhone. It's already almost full with music/pics/videos/apps.

I mean i will mostly use this as an eReader, web browser, and to watch netflix/crackle/etc. in bed or on the road. I do have a trip to Italy this summer, so I might want to load movies onto it rather than rely on USAirways wifi.Do you have to download movies, or can you rip DVDs onto the ipad?

For DVD's1) You rip/decrypt to computer.

2) You convert to the ipad format on computer

3) You download from computer to ipad when syncing via itunes.

Note that a 2 hour movie will roughly take up a little over 2 gigs of space.

 

[CrossEyed]

The higher res screen will probably make the ipad3 worth it for me over the ipad2.

How much memory do you guys use on your current ipads? And can you sync with more than one computer, or is it like the iphone?

With iCloud and iTunes Match, I don't think I'd ever spend the money for anything more than 16GB

Depends on what you use it for. I travel extensively and not all flights have GoGo wifi internet. For that reason I keep my 32GB iPhone stocked with music as a fallback and use Spotify Premium for unlimited music access when I'm within a data connection.

ALSO:

With the improved rseolution of the iPhone's camera and ability to shoot HD video, the files for both are larger. If you're planning on using it for those purposes I'd plan on something a little bigger as well.

IMO a 32GB is the sweet spot. I wish I had gone 64GB with my iPhone. It's already almost full with music/pics/videos/apps.

True. I don't consider my phone my camera or camcorder, other than a backup. I did buy a 32GB iPhone, but now that I've subscribed to iTunes Match, I wish I wouldn't have spent the extra money. I have an unlimited data plan through Verizon (grandfathered) so I really have very little need to store a ton of stuff on my device. So I'm going 16GB when I get an iPad.

 

[culdeus]

The higher res screen will probably make the ipad3 worth it for me over the ipad2.

How much memory do you guys use on your current ipads? And can you sync with more than one computer, or is it like the iphone?

With iCloud and iTunes Match, I don't think I'd ever spend the money for anything more than 16GB

Depends on what you use it for. I travel extensively and not all flights have GoGo wifi internet. For that reason I keep my 32GB iPhone stocked with music as a fallback and use Spotify Premium for unlimited music access when I'm within a data connection.

ALSO:

With the improved rseolution of the iPhone's camera and ability to shoot HD video, the files for both are larger. If you're planning on using it for those purposes I'd plan on something a little bigger as well.

IMO a 32GB is the sweet spot. I wish I had gone 64GB with my iPhone. It's already almost full with music/pics/videos/apps.

I mean i will mostly use this as an eReader, web browser, and to watch netflix/crackle/etc. in bed or on the road. I do have a trip to Italy this summer, so I might want to load movies onto it rather than rely on USAirways wifi.Do you have to download movies, or can you rip DVDs onto the ipad?

For DVD's1) You rip/decrypt to computer.

2) You convert to the ipad format on computer

3) You download from computer to ipad when syncing via itunes.

Note that a 2 hour movie will roughly take up a little over 2 gigs of space.

That's a bit of an overstatement for DVD. Rule of thumb is ~20MB/Min for DVD format unless you feel compelled for some reason to get the iso.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Are there clues in that invitation? Some are saying the size of the icons are quite big and that could mean iTV.

 

[NewlyRetired]

The higher res screen will probably make the ipad3 worth it for me over the ipad2.

How much memory do you guys use on your current ipads? And can you sync with more than one computer, or is it like the iphone?

With iCloud and iTunes Match, I don't think I'd ever spend the money for anything more than 16GB

Depends on what you use it for. I travel extensively and not all flights have GoGo wifi internet. For that reason I keep my 32GB iPhone stocked with music as a fallback and use Spotify Premium for unlimited music access when I'm within a data connection.

ALSO:

With the improved rseolution of the iPhone's camera and ability to shoot HD video, the files for both are larger. If you're planning on using it for those purposes I'd plan on something a little bigger as well.

IMO a 32GB is the sweet spot. I wish I had gone 64GB with my iPhone. It's already almost full with music/pics/videos/apps.

I mean i will mostly use this as an eReader, web browser, and to watch netflix/crackle/etc. in bed or on the road. I do have a trip to Italy this summer, so I might want to load movies onto it rather than rely on USAirways wifi.Do you have to download movies, or can you rip DVDs onto the ipad?

For DVD's1) You rip/decrypt to computer.

2) You convert to the ipad format on computer

3) You download from computer to ipad when syncing via itunes.

Note that a 2 hour movie will roughly take up a little over 2 gigs of space.

That's a bit of an overstatement for DVD. Rule of thumb is ~20MB/Min for DVD format unless you feel compelled for some reason to get the iso.

I am missing something.~20MB/Min for DVD

120 minutes for a 2 hour movie

20MB/min * 120 minutes = ~2400MB total or ~2.4GB

How did I overstate it? I must be screwing up my math (and likely 100 of vids I have encoded all of which come out to roughly the size I mentioned in my first post).

Let me know because I would love to save some hard drive space.

 

[moderated]

Are there clues in that invitation? Some are saying the size of the icons are quite big and that could mean iTV.

Do you mean the rumored tv or the current apple tv box?Close to zero chance it's an actual television as parts would have leaked.

 

[Judge Smails]

The higher res screen will probably make the ipad3 worth it for me over the ipad2.

How much memory do you guys use on your current ipads? And can you sync with more than one computer, or is it like the iphone?

With iCloud and iTunes Match, I don't think I'd ever spend the money for anything more than 16GB

Depends on what you use it for. I travel extensively and not all flights have GoGo wifi internet. For that reason I keep my 32GB iPhone stocked with music as a fallback and use Spotify Premium for unlimited music access when I'm within a data connection.

ALSO:

With the improved rseolution of the iPhone's camera and ability to shoot HD video, the files for both are larger. If you're planning on using it for those purposes I'd plan on something a little bigger as well.

IMO a 32GB is the sweet spot. I wish I had gone 64GB with my iPhone. It's already almost full with music/pics/videos/apps.

I mean i will mostly use this as an eReader, web browser, and to watch netflix/crackle/etc. in bed or on the road. I do have a trip to Italy this summer, so I might want to load movies onto it rather than rely on USAirways wifi.Do you have to download movies, or can you rip DVDs onto the ipad?

Trip to Italy this summer? Me too. Florence July 1-8, Rome July 8-13. Let's compare notes. And I'm the last person on earth without an IPad. No more. Love my iPhone, and getting this baby as soon as it's released..

 

[Mario Kart]

If iPad 2's fall to $299, I'm in. It would be a test model to get ready for the iPad 4 which will be sweet. Will either wait for the iPad 4 or the iPad mini while using the 2 to get acclimated to the format. For me, I think 16 would be good as I would not put much music on it (have a phone, iPod, or computer for that) so it would be work apps, game apps, and such.

That said, I doubt the 2's go to $299.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The higher res screen will probably make the ipad3 worth it for me over the ipad2.

How much memory do you guys use on your current ipads? And can you sync with more than one computer, or is it like the iphone?

With iCloud and iTunes Match, I don't think I'd ever spend the money for anything more than 16GB

Depends on what you use it for. I travel extensively and not all flights have GoGo wifi internet. For that reason I keep my 32GB iPhone stocked with music as a fallback and use Spotify Premium for unlimited music access when I'm within a data connection.

ALSO:

With the improved rseolution of the iPhone's camera and ability to shoot HD video, the files for both are larger. If you're planning on using it for those purposes I'd plan on something a little bigger as well.

IMO a 32GB is the sweet spot. I wish I had gone 64GB with my iPhone. It's already almost full with music/pics/videos/apps.

I mean i will mostly use this as an eReader, web browser, and to watch netflix/crackle/etc. in bed or on the road. I do have a trip to Italy this summer, so I might want to load movies onto it rather than rely on USAirways wifi.Do you have to download movies, or can you rip DVDs onto the ipad?

Trip to Italy this summer? Me too. Florence July 1-8, Rome July 8-13. Let's compare notes. And I'm the last person on earth without an IPad. No more. Love my iPhone, and getting this baby as soon as it's released..

Ive been holding out for a tablet as well. This will likely be my pickup. Rome may 26-29. Capri may 29 - june 3

 

[CrossEyed]

Best Buy knocked their iPad 2 price down to $449.

 

[shader]

Best Buy knocked their iPad 2 price down to $449.

I doubt any iPads are selling right now. Probably the worst possible time to buy one. Even at 449, you'd have to be really out of touch to buy one right now.Pretty clear a massive price drop is coming.

 

[CrossEyed]

Best Buy knocked their iPad 2 price down to $449.

I doubt any iPads are selling right now. Probably the worst possible time to buy one. Even at 449, you'd have to be really out of touch to buy one right now.Pretty clear a massive price drop is coming.

Agreed. I just like that the drop has started already.

 

[thecatch]

The higher res screen will probably make the ipad3 worth it for me over the ipad2.

How much memory do you guys use on your current ipads? And can you sync with more than one computer, or is it like the iphone?

With iCloud and iTunes Match, I don't think I'd ever spend the money for anything more than 16GB

Depends on what you use it for. I travel extensively and not all flights have GoGo wifi internet. For that reason I keep my 32GB iPhone stocked with music as a fallback and use Spotify Premium for unlimited music access when I'm within a data connection.

ALSO:

With the improved rseolution of the iPhone's camera and ability to shoot HD video, the files for both are larger. If you're planning on using it for those purposes I'd plan on something a little bigger as well.

IMO a 32GB is the sweet spot. I wish I had gone 64GB with my iPhone. It's already almost full with music/pics/videos/apps.

I mean i will mostly use this as an eReader, web browser, and to watch netflix/crackle/etc. in bed or on the road. I do have a trip to Italy this summer, so I might want to load movies onto it rather than rely on USAirways wifi.Do you have to download movies, or can you rip DVDs onto the ipad?

Trip to Italy this summer? Me too. Florence July 1-8, Rome July 8-13. Let's compare notes. And I'm the last person on earth without an IPad. No more. Love my iPhone, and getting this baby as soon as it's released..

I made that trip last fall and the iPad was a life saver on the 10 hour flights. Ripped through a bunch of breaking bad episodes and forgot I was even on a plane (battery lasted the whole time). I really don't use it much other than for traveling anymore, but it was well worth it even just for that purpose.

 

[beer 30]

so I've got some Homeland rips on my computer in avi format. How do I get them on my iPad?

 

[culdeus]

so I've got some Homeland rips on my computer in avi format. How do I get them on my iPad?

google videora

 

[belljr]

so I've got some Homeland rips on my computer in avi format. How do I get them on my iPad?

There is a free version of something called Any Video Converter that converts anything you have. I like it.I actually bought the full version and

Spoiler

have been recording live streaming

I'm not sure what formats things need to be for IPAD. But putting crap on my phone has never been easier

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I know this is an iPad thread, but my questions are getting me ready to use this thing that I plan on ordering day 1. When you rip a DVD are you able to still access the special features (director commentary etc.) or is it just the movie. What about blurays?

 

[belljr]

I know this is an iPad thread, but my questions are getting me ready to use this thing that I plan on ordering day 1. When you rip a DVD are you able to still access the special features (director commentary etc.) or is it just the movie. What about blurays?

It depends on the software. I know ones in the past that I used you can select what you want, no French subtitles, etc (save space)No idea about blu-rays. And all my use has been converting crap to put on my phone or old zen player so I can't talk for any limitations Apple products may or may not have in that regard. I think though you can rip move to your itunes library and move it to ipad.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I know this is an iPad thread, but my questions are getting me ready to use this thing that I plan on ordering day 1. When you rip a DVD are you able to still access the special features (director commentary etc.) or is it just the movie. What about blurays?

If you rip the entire DVD/BluRay, you can then choose any item you want to encode, from movie, to specific subtitle tracks, to certain sound tracks, to special features.

 

[NewlyRetired]

The higher res screen will probably make the ipad3 worth it for me over the ipad2.

How much memory do you guys use on your current ipads? And can you sync with more than one computer, or is it like the iphone?

With iCloud and iTunes Match, I don't think I'd ever spend the money for anything more than 16GB

Depends on what you use it for. I travel extensively and not all flights have GoGo wifi internet. For that reason I keep my 32GB iPhone stocked with music as a fallback and use Spotify Premium for unlimited music access when I'm within a data connection.

ALSO:

With the improved rseolution of the iPhone's camera and ability to shoot HD video, the files for both are larger. If you're planning on using it for those purposes I'd plan on something a little bigger as well.

IMO a 32GB is the sweet spot. I wish I had gone 64GB with my iPhone. It's already almost full with music/pics/videos/apps.

I mean i will mostly use this as an eReader, web browser, and to watch netflix/crackle/etc. in bed or on the road. I do have a trip to Italy this summer, so I might want to load movies onto it rather than rely on USAirways wifi.Do you have to download movies, or can you rip DVDs onto the ipad?

For DVD's1) You rip/decrypt to computer.

2) You convert to the ipad format on computer

3) You download from computer to ipad when syncing via itunes.

Note that a 2 hour movie will roughly take up a little over 2 gigs of space.

That's a bit of an overstatement for DVD. Rule of thumb is ~20MB/Min for DVD format unless you feel compelled for some reason to get the iso.

I am missing something.~20MB/Min for DVD

120 minutes for a 2 hour movie

20MB/min * 120 minutes = ~2400MB total or ~2.4GB

How did I overstate it? I must be screwing up my math (and likely 100 of vids I have encoded all of which come out to roughly the size I mentioned in my first post).

Let me know because I would love to save some hard drive space.

Culdeus, could you please comment on this? I really want to know if I am wasting memory space.

 

[belljr]

The higher res screen will probably make the ipad3 worth it for me over the ipad2.

How much memory do you guys use on your current ipads? And can you sync with more than one computer, or is it like the iphone?

With iCloud and iTunes Match, I don't think I'd ever spend the money for anything more than 16GB

Depends on what you use it for. I travel extensively and not all flights have GoGo wifi internet. For that reason I keep my 32GB iPhone stocked with music as a fallback and use Spotify Premium for unlimited music access when I'm within a data connection.

ALSO:

With the improved rseolution of the iPhone's camera and ability to shoot HD video, the files for both are larger. If you're planning on using it for those purposes I'd plan on something a little bigger as well.

IMO a 32GB is the sweet spot. I wish I had gone 64GB with my iPhone. It's already almost full with music/pics/videos/apps.

I mean i will mostly use this as an eReader, web browser, and to watch netflix/crackle/etc. in bed or on the road. I do have a trip to Italy this summer, so I might want to load movies onto it rather than rely on USAirways wifi.Do you have to download movies, or can you rip DVDs onto the ipad?

For DVD's1) You rip/decrypt to computer.

2) You convert to the ipad format on computer

3) You download from computer to ipad when syncing via itunes.

Note that a 2 hour movie will roughly take up a little over 2 gigs of space.

That's a bit of an overstatement for DVD. Rule of thumb is ~20MB/Min for DVD format unless you feel compelled for some reason to get the iso.

I am missing something.~20MB/Min for DVD

120 minutes for a 2 hour movie

20MB/min * 120 minutes = ~2400MB total or ~2.4GB

How did I overstate it? I must be screwing up my math (and likely 100 of vids I have encoded all of which come out to roughly the size I mentioned in my first post).

Let me know because I would love to save some hard drive space.

Culdeus, could you please comment on this? I really want to know if I am wasting memory space.

Glad I'm not the only one confused. He seems to disagree but then his post supports yours

 

[NewlyRetired]

I'm not sure what formats things need to be for IPAD. But putting crap on my phone has never been easier

I use H.264 and it is very good. Here is the formal list the iPad supportsVideo formats supported: H.264 video up to 1080p, 30 frames per second, High Profile level 4.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; MPEG-4 video up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file formatIf people are looking for a free encoding program, I recommend Handbrake. You will still need to hunt down a decrypters. There are a few decent free ones out there, just google.

 

[belljr]

I'm not sure what formats things need to be for IPAD. But putting crap on my phone has never been easier

I use H.264 and it is very good. Here is the formal list the iPad supportsVideo formats supported: H.264 video up to 1080p, 30 frames per second, High Profile level 4.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; MPEG-4 video up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file formatIf people are looking for a free encoding program, I recommend Handbrake. You will still need to hunt down a decrypters. There are a few decent free ones out there, just google.

Thanks. I don't have an IPAD so I didn't know but the free ware I posted is pretty basic but does a great job for me (you need a different program to rip). The paid version has it all in one

 

[beer 30]

so I've got some Homeland rips on my computer in avi format. How do I get them on my iPad?

There is a free version of something called Any Video Converter that converts anything you have. I like it.I actually bought the full version and

Spoiler

have been recording live streaming

I'm not sure what formats things need to be for IPAD. But putting crap on my phone has never been easier

I think I actually have that software someplace. Thanks all for the responses!

 

[NewlyRetired]

I'm not sure what formats things need to be for IPAD. But putting crap on my phone has never been easier

I use H.264 and it is very good. Here is the formal list the iPad supportsVideo formats supported: H.264 video up to 1080p, 30 frames per second, High Profile level 4.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; MPEG-4 video up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file formatIf people are looking for a free encoding program, I recommend Handbrake. You will still need to hunt down a decrypters. There are a few decent free ones out there, just google.

Thanks. I don't have an IPAD so I didn't know but the free ware I posted is pretty basic but does a great job for me (you need a different program to rip). The paid version has it all in one

Agreed. There is plenty of sw packages out there that you can buy for a small price that will do the job nicely. I was just mentioning handbrake because it does everything the paid versions do for free.Handbrake is not just for the Ipad though, it is a general encoding program that you can use for anything. I use it to encode vids for my ipad and to stream to my bluray player and my ps3.As you mentioned, you still need to get the decrypter/ripper part before you can encode.

 

[matuski]

i have always had an ipad, now ipad2 provided by my company... i guess im missing something, but $800 for these things would be ridiculous.

 

[CrossEyed]

i have always had an ipad, now ipad2 provided by my company... i guess im missing something, but $800 for these things would be ridiculous.

I think very few people need a 64GB iPad with 3G/LTE/whatever. I plan on buying a 16GB with wifi. And hopefully I can get an iPad 2 with those specs for under $400 here very soon.

 

[beer 30]

What I've found with mine is I'm in enough spots where wifi isn't available that it becomes a PITA sometimes. The flipside is I don't really want to pay for 3G but if you use it constantly for business I would make the investment.

 

[shader]

i have always had an ipad, now ipad2 provided by my company... i guess im missing something, but $800 for these things would be ridiculous.

I think very few people need a 64GB iPad with 3G/LTE/whatever. I plan on buying a 16GB with wifi. And hopefully I can get an iPad 2 with those specs for under $400 here very soon.

I'm thinking 299 for iPad 2.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

What I've found with mine is I'm in enough spots where wifi isn't available that it becomes a PITA sometimes. The flipside is I don't really want to pay for 3G but if you use it constantly for business I would make the investment.

But you can tether your iphone now, right? Is that at an extra cost?

 

[CrossEyed]

What I've found with mine is I'm in enough spots where wifi isn't available that it becomes a PITA sometimes. The flipside is I don't really want to pay for 3G but if you use it constantly for business I would make the investment.

But you can tether your iphone now, right? Is that at an extra cost?

Extra, unless you jailbreak your phone, I believe.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I downloaded some movies that have the mp4 designation. They play fine on my iPad, but not on my iPhone 3GS, as it says it doesn't support the format (though it does play other/older mp4s). Anyone know anything about this?

 

[beer 30]

What I've found with mine is I'm in enough spots where wifi isn't available that it becomes a PITA sometimes. The flipside is I don't really want to pay for 3G but if you use it constantly for business I would make the investment.

But you can tether your iphone now, right? Is that at an extra cost?

Extra, unless you jailbreak your phone, I believe.

What he said, I looked into it, not worth the $$$.

 

[belljr]

I downloaded some movies that have the mp4 designation. They play fine on my iPad, but not on my iPhone 3GS, as it says it doesn't support the format (though it does play other/older mp4s). Anyone know anything about this?

What's the resolution they were downloaded at?Could be a few things - resolution to high, fps too high, used an xvid codec instead of H264

 

[CrossEyed]

Latest rumor is that Apple will introduce an 8GB iPad 2 along with the iPad 3. I hope that's not their solution for competing in the lower cost market. Because 8GB would fill up way too fast for me to consider a purchase. Still hoping the 16GB get a significant reduction in price.

 

[[icon]]

Latest rumor is that Apple will introduce an 8GB iPad 2 along with the iPad 3. I hope that's not their solution for competing in the lower cost market. Because 8GB would fill up way too fast for me to consider a purchase. Still hoping the 16GB get a significant reduction in price.

I don't see apple going to 299 with the 16GB 9" iPad 2. They are not big on competing with themselves and they're not big on cluttering the product segment. Plus I have to bet that cutting 40% off the price would leave them with noway near the margins they like. Not a terrible move to offer a lower-margin item to fight off market share gains by competitors, but that's not usually the game they play. I say usually because they HAVE set the precedent with the iPhone 4 / iPhone 4s.... but in that case the margin cut wasn't as much because most of the cost is still subsidized by the carrier. Their net price on the phone may have dropped from $699 to $599 to give the carrier room to drop from $199 to $99 subsidized cost to consumer. In this case you're talking about a real cut of 40% into their revenue which flirts with break-even on this product IIRC.

IMO I see them closing out the iPad2s.... but not introducing a "low cost" ipad unless they drop a 7" model without retina display. I can see them selling that at 199-299 and maintaining sufficient margin while not cannibalizing their own iPad3 sales.

 

[goonsquad]

Latest rumor is that Apple will introduce an 8GB iPad 2 along with the iPad 3. I hope that's not their solution for competing in the lower cost market. Because 8GB would fill up way too fast for me to consider a purchase. Still hoping the 16GB get a significant reduction in price.

I don't see apple going to 299 with the 16GB 9" iPad 2. They are not big on competing with themselves and they're not big on cluttering the product segment. Plus I have to bet that cutting 40% off the price would leave them with noway near the margins they like. Not a terrible move to offer a lower-margin item to fight off market share gains by competitors, but that's not usually the game they play. I say usually because they HAVE set the precedent with the iPhone 4 / iPhone 4s.... but in that case the margin cut wasn't as much because most of the cost is still subsidized by the carrier. Their net price on the phone may have dropped from $699 to $599 to give the carrier room to drop from $199 to $99 subsidized cost to consumer. In this case you're talking about a real cut of 40% into their revenue which flirts with break-even on this product IIRC.

IMO I see them closing out the iPad2s.... but not introducing a "low cost" ipad unless they drop a 7" model without retina display. I can see them selling that at 199-299 and maintaining sufficient margin while not cannibalizing their own iPad3 sales.

They did set precedence with the "free" iPhone 3GS in addition to the iPhone 4 and 4S. The more I think about it, an 8GB iPad 2 would make great sense as the lower capacity would help keep it from competing directly with the larger capacity iPad 3. Makes moving up to the higher price tier more attractive.

 

[culdeus]

The higher res screen will probably make the ipad3 worth it for me over the ipad2.

How much memory do you guys use on your current ipads? And can you sync with more than one computer, or is it like the iphone?

With iCloud and iTunes Match, I don't think I'd ever spend the money for anything more than 16GB

Depends on what you use it for. I travel extensively and not all flights have GoGo wifi internet. For that reason I keep my 32GB iPhone stocked with music as a fallback and use Spotify Premium for unlimited music access when I'm within a data connection.

ALSO:

With the improved rseolution of the iPhone's camera and ability to shoot HD video, the files for both are larger. If you're planning on using it for those purposes I'd plan on something a little bigger as well.

IMO a 32GB is the sweet spot. I wish I had gone 64GB with my iPhone. It's already almost full with music/pics/videos/apps.

I mean i will mostly use this as an eReader, web browser, and to watch netflix/crackle/etc. in bed or on the road. I do have a trip to Italy this summer, so I might want to load movies onto it rather than rely on USAirways wifi.Do you have to download movies, or can you rip DVDs onto the ipad?

For DVD's1) You rip/decrypt to computer.

2) You convert to the ipad format on computer

3) You download from computer to ipad when syncing via itunes.

Note that a 2 hour movie will roughly take up a little over 2 gigs of space.

That's a bit of an overstatement for DVD. Rule of thumb is ~20MB/Min for DVD format unless you feel compelled for some reason to get the iso.

I am missing something.~20MB/Min for DVD

120 minutes for a 2 hour movie

20MB/min * 120 minutes = ~2400MB total or ~2.4GB

How did I overstate it? I must be screwing up my math (and likely 100 of vids I have encoded all of which come out to roughly the size I mentioned in my first post).

Let me know because I would love to save some hard drive space.

Culdeus, could you please comment on this? I really want to know if I am wasting memory space.

No, I may have both a math error and/or a simple error. I need to check the bit rates of iso vs divx vs mkv. It just doesn't seem that movies I have are in the 2GB range for 2 hrs, but I've heard that 20MB/min and it seems to be the uniform standard. It is possible the movies I have are broken down to a lower transfer rate. I routinely see 700-900MB as the normal size for a movie for me in DVD quality. 2GB is closing in on 720p capture from what I have seen out there.One issue is storage size just isn't a large concern of mine so I'm not really monitoring it that closely.

 

[NewlyRetired]

The higher res screen will probably make the ipad3 worth it for me over the ipad2.

How much memory do you guys use on your current ipads? And can you sync with more than one computer, or is it like the iphone?

With iCloud and iTunes Match, I don't think I'd ever spend the money for anything more than 16GB

Depends on what you use it for. I travel extensively and not all flights have GoGo wifi internet. For that reason I keep my 32GB iPhone stocked with music as a fallback and use Spotify Premium for unlimited music access when I'm within a data connection.

ALSO:

With the improved rseolution of the iPhone's camera and ability to shoot HD video, the files for both are larger. If you're planning on using it for those purposes I'd plan on something a little bigger as well.

IMO a 32GB is the sweet spot. I wish I had gone 64GB with my iPhone. It's already almost full with music/pics/videos/apps.

I mean i will mostly use this as an eReader, web browser, and to watch netflix/crackle/etc. in bed or on the road. I do have a trip to Italy this summer, so I might want to load movies onto it rather than rely on USAirways wifi.Do you have to download movies, or can you rip DVDs onto the ipad?

For DVD's1) You rip/decrypt to computer.

2) You convert to the ipad format on computer

3) You download from computer to ipad when syncing via itunes.

Note that a 2 hour movie will roughly take up a little over 2 gigs of space.

That's a bit of an overstatement for DVD. Rule of thumb is ~20MB/Min for DVD format unless you feel compelled for some reason to get the iso.

I am missing something.~20MB/Min for DVD

120 minutes for a 2 hour movie

20MB/min * 120 minutes = ~2400MB total or ~2.4GB

How did I overstate it? I must be screwing up my math (and likely 100 of vids I have encoded all of which come out to roughly the size I mentioned in my first post).

Let me know because I would love to save some hard drive space.

Culdeus, could you please comment on this? I really want to know if I am wasting memory space.

No, I may have both a math error and/or a simple error. I need to check the bit rates of iso vs divx vs mkv. It just doesn't seem that movies I have are in the 2GB range for 2 hrs, but I've heard that 20MB/min and it seems to be the uniform standard. It is possible the movies I have are broken down to a lower transfer rate. I routinely see 700-900MB as the normal size for a movie for me in DVD quality. 2GB is closing in on 720p capture from what I have seen out there.One issue is storage size just isn't a large concern of mine so I'm not really monitoring it that closely.

I think you can encode a video such that the size is smaller but much of the time, you give up some quality for size. I am pretty sure I use one of the best encoding mechanisms I can find and 2.4G for 2 hours of vid seems pretty standard.

 

[Mario Kart]

If Apple offers a $299 model with only 8 GB that is a high price point with such low memory. No way that model sells much. If they sell a 16 GB at that price there will be many more converts. They will only be able to do that if the new iPads come in 32, 64, and 128 GB's. I see/want that to happen.

 

[HellToupee]

If Apple offers a $299 model with only 8 GB that is a high price point with such low memory. No way that model sells much. If they sell a 16 GB at that price there will be many more converts. They will only be able to do that if the new iPads come in 32, 64, and 128 GB's. I see/want that to happen.

I'm feeling the 2's will be 16GB for $349 . An 8GB would work as their version of the Fire , a streaming entertainment & ereader but I can't see them wanting to compete on the lower level rhe Fire resides at

 

[Mario Kart]

If Apple offers a $299 model with only 8 GB that is a high price point with such low memory. No way that model sells much. If they sell a 16 GB at that price there will be many more converts. They will only be able to do that if the new iPads come in 32, 64, and 128 GB's. I see/want that to happen.

I'm feeling the 2's will be 16GB for $349 . An 8GB would work as their version of the Fire , a streaming entertainment & ereader but I can't see them wanting to compete on the lower level rhe Fire resides at

I could see $299 with the 32 GB iPads at $399. I can only see that if they want the supplies of the iPad 2's gone and to promote the 3's full throttle. That will only happen if the 3's are leaps and bounds better than the 2's. I could see it happening but it won't... I don't think.

 

[goonsquad]

If Apple offers a $299 model with only 8 GB that is a high price point with such low memory. No way that model sells much. If they sell a 16 GB at that price there will be many more converts. They will only be able to do that if the new iPads come in 32, 64, and 128 GB's. I see/want that to happen.

Highly disagree, a $299 iPad 2 would sell like hot cakes, even with only 8 GB of memory. The Fire is selling well enough with only 8 GB; another $100 to jump up to an iPad with a larger screen, expanded functionality and the Apple ecosystem would be highly attractive to buyers.

 

[Mario Kart]

If Apple offers a $299 model with only 8 GB that is a high price point with such low memory. No way that model sells much. If they sell a 16 GB at that price there will be many more converts. They will only be able to do that if the new iPads come in 32, 64, and 128 GB's. I see/want that to happen.

Highly disagree, a $299 iPad 2 would sell like hot cakes, even with only 8 GB of memory. The Fire is selling well enough with only 8 GB; another $100 to jump up to an iPad with a larger screen, expanded functionality and the Apple ecosystem would be highly attractive to buyers.

Consumers are dumb. There are currently no iPad 2's with only 8gb so they would either have to redo the 2's (unlikely) or use the new 3's with an 8gb model (unlikely). They only way Apple does a 8gb iPad is if they come out with a smaller one this time around (possible). If they do a $299 price point 16gb that supplies will drain quickly which will open up marketing to the 3's. But, Apple is not in need of money so the $349 price point seems more up their orchard.

 

[Mr. Ected]

If Apple offers a $299 model with only 8 GB that is a high price point with such low memory. No way that model sells much. If they sell a 16 GB at that price there will be many more converts. They will only be able to do that if the new iPads come in 32, 64, and 128 GB's. I see/want that to happen.

Highly disagree, a $299 iPad 2 would sell like hot cakes, even with only 8 GB of memory. The Fire is selling well enough with only 8 GB; another $100 to jump up to an iPad with a larger screen, expanded functionality and the Apple ecosystem would be highly attractive to buyers.

How about a $299 8 GB iPad2 with an enticement towards iCloud? In theory (in their eyes) this should cover some issues with the smaller amount of memory. Just a thought.

 

[CrossEyed]

If Apple offers a $299 model with only 8 GB that is a high price point with such low memory. No way that model sells much. If they sell a 16 GB at that price there will be many more converts. They will only be able to do that if the new iPads come in 32, 64, and 128 GB's. I see/want that to happen.

Agreed. I'd buy a 16GB for $299 the day it's announced. Buy an 8GB for $299? Not gonna happen.

 

[goonsquad]

If Apple offers a $299 model with only 8 GB that is a high price point with such low memory. No way that model sells much. If they sell a 16 GB at that price there will be many more converts. They will only be able to do that if the new iPads come in 32, 64, and 128 GB's. I see/want that to happen.

Highly disagree, a $299 iPad 2 would sell like hot cakes, even with only 8 GB of memory. The Fire is selling well enough with only 8 GB; another $100 to jump up to an iPad with a larger screen, expanded functionality and the Apple ecosystem would be highly attractive to buyers.

Consumers are dumb. There are currently no iPad 2's with only 8gb so they would either have to redo the 2's (unlikely) or use the new 3's with an 8gb model (unlikely). They only way Apple does a 8gb iPad is if they come out with a smaller one this time around (possible). If they do a $299 price point 16gb that supplies will drain quickly which will open up marketing to the 3's. But, Apple is not in need of money so the $349 price point seems more up their orchard.

There are two different discussions here. 1) Would consumers purchase an 8GB iPad 2 for $299? In your first post you said they would not, as the price would be too high for only 8GB. To which I disagreed. Completely seperate discussion is 2) Would Apple produce and sell an 8GB iPad 2 for $299? I tend to think they would do so if they could a) maintain a healthy margin on them and b) don't believe that that 8GB would negatively impact the ownership experience. I tend to agree with you that $349 seems a more likely price, and I still think it would sell well. What you won't see is Apple promoting a deep discount on the iPad 2 just to clear stock. Apple has historically been great at clearing the product channel before the launch of a new product and tends to let retailers play the discount game. They may funnel excess inventory to the WalMarts of the world to move on the cheap, but Apple themselves will be completely focused on the iPad 3.