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I found myself disagreeing with #4 pretty strongly, and I found myself wondering how the population in general views the topic, so thought I'd make a poll on it.
I think booing is more likely to alienate the players and make them want to play less.I think any fans, that want a front office that makes decisions based on booing, deserve the team they would get as a result.It isn't like fans don't have plenty of means of getting their disappointment or frustration across to a team. Actively deriding your players while they are playing just doesn't seem to me to be doing anything more than encouraging your players to care less about the game.
mrspree15 said:
I'm tired of hearing how McNabb carried this team from 2001-2004 and how he should have earned a long leash from the fans. Bullcrap. No player gets a long leash or a free pass and none should expect one. You play bad, you get boo'd. You play well you get cheered. You win a championship and you get immortalized. People speak of loyalty. I am loyal, to the team, not the players. The players come and go, the team and the fans remain.
So booing is disloyal, but no showing up at all is loyal?
It's only a matter of time though before those seats empty. There may be a grace period of everything being full and booing going on but eventually, those people will not show up and PAY top dollar to show up to these sporting events.So, if I'm an owner and there's booing going on, I would REALLY need to think about what's going on. I would hate to own a team and there's booing raining down in the stadium.
At some point.......supporting a team that's not loyal back to their fans becomes obvious.
My point is I can't stand sitting next to some hack fan who is booing, #####ing and moaning like some little school girl. If you don't like it stay home but all your booing, #####ing and moaning isn't going to change a thing.
But the same can be said about a players performance.
But the question isn't, "does booing change anything", I don't think anyone would argue that booing has the magical effect of turning back time. Booing is a tool to show displeasure. Just like in other countries whistling is used.
Groaning shows displeasure. Booing is an insult.
Depends on the person.
These guys are professionals - If they are too pansy-### to let booing affect their commitment to their profession and their level of play, then I don't want them on my team anyway. Real professionals may not like to be booed, but understand and accept when their play on the field deserves it. And guess what? If you man up like that as a professional, own it, and show that you can not only take it but raise your game, the booing tends to stop.In before the predictable "Yeah, but there still just human like you and me and they have families" comeback. Of course they are, and harassing family members for how the player is doing is never ever good. But the player accepted this line of work knowing the ups and downs that come with it, including the many millions of dollars associated with it. You gotta earn that money, and that includes putting up with some booing if your performance doesn't meet expectations.
That's fine unless the team owner decides to relocate because the franchise isn't profitable. My loyalty is to the team first. I was there before the players on the current roster & I'll be there long after they've gone. I'll take negativity over apathy any day (as long as it isn't over the top).
They're professionals, but they're also human beings. Most human beings don't like to be told there terrible at something by 33,000 people. When they’re heckled by opposing fans it’s easier to brush that off as heckling but when the hometown craps all over you’re performance your crazy if you don't think that it affects them. These guys are trained not to show it out but for the majority of them there’s no way it doesn't have an effect.
I agree..booing is your vote of no confidence in the current state of your sports team.it tells the owners/players/coaches that you don't appreciate the garbage they've put on the field, esp NFL games, where to cost fo a ticket is about $85 ( at least here at giants stadium it is). With the crapola the Mara's are putting on the field, they deserve to be booed, even better, we should leave the stadium empty, boycott a game or two.this NYG franchise is crumbling..its a load of garbage..they haven't won a SB since 1990, and only 1 NFC championship since then.., the Giants stunk for 30+ years from the 50's right up till the Parcells era..and its stunk ever since he left, save for one or two 'good' years since 1990..Anonymous Internet User said:
I agree. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that I don't OWE a team anything(especially loyalty). I'm loyal to my family and friends. Brand loyalty is an entirely different matter. At the point when I'm dissatisfied with what I've been purchasing, I have no problem with booing or discontinuing my financial support. Of course it's not really in my nature to boo so I generally don't but I do reserve the right. The main point here is that, as a paying customer, you don't OWE anything to any good or service provider. So, boo until your heart's content. I think the better option is to stop going to the games. Stop putting money in the pockets of those who own the team if you aren't satisfied with the job they're doing. It's really the only thing that they are going to listen to. Dan Snyder is raking in the bucks at Fedex field. THe only thing he's going to respond to is people not showing up.I agree..booing is your vote of no confidence in the current state of your sports team.it tells the owners/players/coaches that you don't appreciate the garbage they've put on the field, esp NFL games, where to cost fo a ticket is about $85 ( at least here at giants stadium it is). With the crapola the Mara's are putting on the field, they deserve to be booed, even better, we should leave the stadium empty, boycott a game or two.this NYG franchise is crumbling..its a load of garbage..they haven't won a SB since 1990, and only 1 NFC championship since then.., the Giants stunk for 30+ years from the 50's right up till the Parcells era..and its stunk ever since he left, save for one or two 'good' years since 1990..Anonymous Internet User said:
A boo is a sign of displeasure. You can be loyal to someone or something and yet displeased at their performance or a particular situation. I don't condone booing your wife, but certainly you've told her at one point or another that you're not happy with something in particular. This is no different, though with sports teams this expression of pleasure/displeasure becomes cheers and boos.
So, for example (sorry to bring a baseball example into the SP), Mike Schmidt is generally acknowledged as the greatest 3rd baseman of all time, yet he got booed a lot until near the end of his career. By your rationale, if he hadn't gotten booed, can we assume that he would have been the greatest player of all time? That the booing "held him back" to only being one of the 10-15 greatest players of all time? Look, he obviously didn't like getting booed (who would?), but he overcame it, didn't let it affect his overall play, the booing eventually stopped, and he became one of the most revered players in Philadelphia history.
No, it's called a fair weather fan.
So how about someone like, oh, I don't know....Santa Claus?That incident sticks in my mind as one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen. I love Philly fans, they're such curmudgeons.On focus though, I don't really boo my own team, aside from an obvious lack of effort.
Not really sure what your point is. If the Santa Claus the team strutted out looked and acted like Billy Bob Thornton in Bad Santa, it's not ok to boo?ETA: The depends on the person was in response to the definintion of groaning and booing. It wasn't meant to mean that it's only ok to boo certain people.
There really wasn't a point, other than Santa Claus got booed. Which is awesome. I don't see why McNabb is so angry, it's Philly for god sakes, they boo everyone. Except for Michael Irvin, they cheer when he breaks his neck.
Wrong. It's called a dissatisfied customer. Only an idiot would give unconditional loyalty to a sports team(or any other business). Sports is a business. Customers patronize a business only to the extent that they think they're getting their money's worth. The teams are the ones who need to be loyal to the fans(and by teams I mean ownership). Seems that some people around here have the relationship backwards. I haven't missed more than a few games since I started following the Redskins but I'm not going to waste my money going to see a bad team(and I'm not talking about a bad season or two. I'm talking about a team that's bad every year and is being grossely mismanaged). As it stands, I refuse to pay any cash to Snyder. If I'm going to a game,It's because somebody gave me tickets. I prefer the game on tv and if it gets to the point where I'm not being entertained, I won't even waste time watching on tv(unless, of course, there are fantasy implications).
Exactly! Cheering holds no meaning once the threat of booing is removed.
That sissy deserved every bit of the booing he got. Lindros sucks. He probably gives himself a concussion trying to wash his hair.The problem I have with Philly fans, and yes I am one, is that they will boo a guy unmercifully for almost the entire game, then he does something good and the loudest boo'ers are now leading the cheers. To me that isn't being a fan, that's being a crybaby. If you are going to boo a guy like Pat Burrell for 7 innings then he hits a HR to win the game - don't cheer - remember - they stink!! Same with McNabb, Schmidt, Lindross, etc..
Kinda reminds me of when a kid lays on the floor in the mall screaming and kicking their feet until their mom buys them a toy. Once they get it - everything is ok again.
