Is Clinton Portis being undervalued? (1 Viewer)

[timschochet]

This is my 5th year of fantasy football and I never drafted Portis before, because he always got taken in the first round (last year, 2nd round.) I always figured that was too high for a guy who never seemed to finish the year.

But this year there he was in the middle of my draft, so I grabbed him up. And it seems to me that though he was never what I wanted as an RB1, he is very satisfactory as low RB2/RB3. He really has very little competition for carries. Shanahan loves to run the ball. Of course injuries are always a concern, but if he can stay healthy I think he could be very productive this year. In a year where there are so many untested guys being hyped (and with good reason, don't get me wrong) this 29 year old experienced RB may be a consistent producer for much of the season.

Anyone agree?

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

Criminally.

McNabb leans on his RB, and leans hard. No idea whether CP can still get it done on the ground in a meaningful way. But 8 out of every 10 pass plays, McNabb is going to check all the way down to his TE or RB, and Portis doesn't look to me like he's going to be sharing a lot of those opportunities with other RB's on that roster.

I think he may struggle, and even fail, to reach 1000 yards on the ground. But I'd wager he sets a career mark for receptions and receiving yards, and provides Addai-type value this season.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

Just to add, I think this comes to fruition whether the Skins try to give McNabb an offense similar to what he's already comfortable in or not. If they throw lots of quick hit stuff a la Reid, then this happens by default. If they try to make him run a real pro style offense, then I think McNabb panics all year and it ends up like this anyway.

 

[zamboni]

The opportunity is clearly there, but the main concern Portis is clearly starting to show some wear and tear.

He could have a renaissance comeback or could be yet another former stud that fades very quickly a la LT last year or Sean Alexander - hard to say right now.

All that said, if you can get him on the cheap, the risk/reward certainly seems worth it.

 

[Phurfur]

I grabbed him in the 8th because he was still there. He has been going 5-6 in my other drafts.

The reasons I don't like him are:

1. He will not stay healthy, he has too many miles on is legs.

2. Rat Face

I am happy with him as my #4 RB.

 

[VICK-tory]

Ankle or not, you just cant undervalue that kind of mileage; 2010 could be the year Portis falls to 3.2 yds per carry and then gets released in March. No, he's being drafted right where he should be.

 

[mdlane]

My main concern isn't injury - it's Shanahan and the fact that there are at least 4 RB options on the roster for Shanahan to play games with (LJ, Torain, Williams, and Portis - I'm not counting FWP).

As of now, I would have no confidence starting Portis on any given week.

 

[jurb26]

I just went through my redraft this past weekend and I could not believe how far Portis dropped. I ended up taking him as my RB3 in the 7th round and that was a steal IMO. I know there are a lot of concerns with Portis as this stage of his career; age, workload, injuries and just being a Redskin. However there are a few things that are true about him that should still be making him go well before that. He is easily the most talented RB in Wash still, he is entrenched as the starter and Shanny WILL run the ball effectively.

Actually, I've got a sneaking suspicion that Shanny is going to run the legs off of Portis this year and ship him away or cut him after the season.

 

[Wally Cleaver]

If healthy, and obviously that is a big if, I dont think top fifteen and even top ten numbers are out of the question. He still has way more talent than anyone currently on the roster, so I just dont see Shanny shuffling him in and out, and he plays for a coach who has always had success running the ball and focuses on it. McNabb and the passing game will do well enough to keep the defenses more than honest and he is said to be in great shape for the first time in a long while.

He has every opportunity to have a big season imho....

 

[Shutout]

Its a different time and age but the history that is written when these two are on the same team in this offense tells me that this could be a fine year to own Portis relative to where he is being drafted. I think he easily exceeds his ADP more than almost any other player. He knows the system and coach, has a legit threat at QB (if he can do what he did with the other QBs, I think his opportunities improve now), has shown that he can be a top 10-15 RB while playing with injuries.

In short, I really think he has been overly downgraded because of age, the mileage, etc, but there are just some guys that always fit the mold for being done, yet never are (Thomas Jones, Curtis Martin). He just fits the mold to me of being that type of guy that is going to have a higher floor than most and I like his suporting team better now than at any other time he has been in Washington.

 

[jude]

I was flamed last year around week 4 (iirc) that portis was donzo. nothing has changed since that time except his age.

that elephant LJ has more left in the tank than old sheriff gonna getcha.

 

[taz]

Its a different time and age but the history that is written when these two are on the same team in this offense tells me that this could be a fine year to own Portis relative to where he is being drafted. I think he easily exceeds his ADP more than almost any other player. He knows the system and coach, has a legit threat at QB (if he can do what he did with the other QBs, I think his opportunities improve now), has shown that he can be a top 10-15 RB while playing with injuries.In short, I really think he has been overly downgraded because of age, the mileage, etc, but there are just some guys that always fit the mold for being done, yet never are (Thomas Jones, Curtis Martin). He just fits the mold to me of being that type of guy that is going to have a higher floor than most and I like his suporting team better now than at any other time he has been in Washington.

I'm cautiously optimistic. Even though he's got a lot of mileage, he's still only 28, is playing in a better system, and just two years ago was fourth in the league in rushing. Also reading he's in much better shape than at any time last year. Hopefully he won't take another shot to the head, but it's not like he's rehabbing a knee injury. It's premature to assume he has absolutely nothing left in the tank.

 

[Todem]

Huge Portis fan. I have been following him since his UM days.

He is done. What made Portis so special was his burst. He had that rare gift of exploding past the line and once he got to the second level he was more than likley gone. He has lacked that burst for 2 straight years and this will be his last as a starting RB. I would not be depending on Clinton Portis for a full season. I think he can have some value for about 7-8 weeks as a nice RB 3. By virtue of his touches he should be able to give you 7-10 points a game. But the problem with Portis is he has worn down rapidly during the last 2 seasons (yes injuries) and he can't recover like he used to. He is not quick anymore....at all.

He was a great one though.

 

[shader]

I think Portis could do well this year. The concussions scare me, but he could have a bit of a re-birth in a Shanahan system.

He's about to turn 29, so I think he may have a year or two left if he can keep his head clear.

 

[Fantaholic]

There are just a few players flying way under the radar this year, and he is one of them. The injury to him and Mcnabb has dropped him even lower than where he was. I did a draft last night with some friends. It's a new league with some newbies for sure. I got Portis in the 13th round!!!!

I know this isn't indicative of where he will go in most drafts, but there was a definite reluctance to draft him. If you're drafting Portis as your 4th RB or beyond that's a steal.

 

[Nightly Mistake]

Portis has SOD written all over him. He's one of the few RB1's with no real competition on the roster for carries. That alone, in this age of RBBC, gives him a huge leg up in value in FF, especially when you're talking about a guy running in Shanahan's offense. Even this talk about Portis having "lost a step" doesn't bother me given that he's not "slow", and he's always used his blockers very well. He'll be in a lot on 3rd downs due to his blocking, but that will also mean receptions and some easier rushing yards too, and McNabb likes to dump off to his RB's as well.

If he can handle the load, and Portis is NOT a fragile RB overall, then I think he has top 10 potential on that team. That's an absolute steal for a guy who's being drafted as a RB2 or lower in terms of ADP.

 

[Desert_Power]

I was able to grab Portis as my RB4 in both of my leagues, and couldn't be happier. I have no doubt that he will outperform his ADP, if healthy.

 

[Cenobite]

Went WR early and often and grabbed Portis in the 9th (12 teams). I was never a fan but could not pass up the value. He could have a decent year (top 20) or be in the 30-40 range. That is the gamble I think you need to take in round 9.

 

[Fat Nick]

I traded Moreno and M. Floyd for Boldin and Portis a few weeks ago and I still love the deal.

Portis was a guy who was going as a weak RB1 two years ago, and an RB2 last year...What's happend since?

+ He's in a REAL offensive system, not Jim Zorn's 3-and-out brainchild of a game-plan.

+ He's got a veteran QB under center (no, McNabb isn't the savior, but it's an upgrade)

+ He hasn't played football since last November...he's old and he's got a ton of carries, but he's had a longer rest than ever.

+ He's going into the season relatively healthy (remember 2 years ago he messed himself up in the pre-season and was never the same)

- He's another year older

- He's had concussion issues (As have many players)

- LJ is there. (But so was Betts in years past)

I think Portis is a steal at his ADP. I'm not saying he's a week-in-week-out starter, but he's coming off the board with guys like Fred Jackson, Darren McFadden, and Donald Brown...And this is a guy who is the clear #1 and has rushed for 1,200 yards every season he hasn't missed substantial time due to injury (6 of 8). He now finds himself on a team with the best starting QB in at least 5 years, and argueably the best OL the team has had in 3 years (although still mediocre by NFL standards), and a run-blocking scheme he made his name with.

Is there risk? Sure, but at his ADP, those are the risks that win championships.

 

[dgreen]

He's one of the few RB1's with no real competition on the roster for carries.

That's the way I see it, too, but we've all been assuming a pretty healthy split between Portis and Johnson all offseason. My first projections for the Redskins was a 200:150 split in carries between Portis and Johnson. Right now, I'm definitely ok with going to 250:100. Do you see more than that? Do you see Portis possibly getting to 300 carries?

 

[Thumper]

This is my 5th year of fantasy football and I never drafted Portis before, because he always got taken in the first round (last year, 2nd round.) I always figured that was too high for a guy who never seemed to finish the year. But this year there he was in the middle of my draft, so I grabbed him up. And it seems to me that though he was never what I wanted as an RB1, he is very satisfactory as low RB2/RB3. He really has very little competition for carries. Shanahan loves to run the ball. Of course injuries are always a concern, but if he can stay healthy I think he could be very productive this year. In a year where there are so many untested guys being hyped (and with good reason, don't get me wrong) this 29 year old experienced RB may be a consistent producer for much of the season. Anyone agree?

There is a lot of risk involved with Portis. If you take him as a flyer you can't go wrong, but I wouldn't take him as someone I needed to depend on.

 

[Shutout]

There is a lot of risk involved with Portis. If you take him as a flyer you can't go wrong, but I wouldn't take him as someone I needed to depend on.

I think people are casually tossing out the "a lot of risk" line on Portis. Any RB has a lot of risk...on every play. I get the injuries and age concerns, etc, but the one difference I see in Portis that offsets that is that DESPITE all the terrible surroundings the past few years, this guy has flat out produced and he's done it while being injured a great deal of the time. This is by far the best offense/surrounding teammates he has had bu more importantly, this is by far the healthiest he has been in about three years. I'm not saying go crazy and expect top 12 production; I'm saying be thrilled to grab him as a RB3 or RB4 and don't be surprised if he DOES finish in that top 12 range (especially in ppr).

 

[Grahamburn]

He's a steal, again.

 

[JMJ]

Portis was a target for me in both my drafts, only got him in one however.

I think LJ is pretty much done. He hasn't looked good in years and just seems so slow and average-at-best these days. Is there any chance should Portis suffer a significant injury that Keiland Williams and not LJ would become the handcuff to have?

Skins fans?

 

[Nightly Mistake]

He's one of the few RB1's with no real competition on the roster for carries.

That's the way I see it, too, but we've all been assuming a pretty healthy split between Portis and Johnson all offseason. My first projections for the Redskins was a 200:150 split in carries between Portis and Johnson. Right now, I'm definitely ok with going to 250:100. Do you see more than that? Do you see Portis possibly getting to 300 carries?

Compute it the other way - how many carries will this offense support? I think they're going to have, at a minimum, 475-500 rushing attempts as a team. Assuming the low end at 475, who's going to have the other 225 if you assume Portis has 250? I think Portis will end up with 275-290 attempts, which is the neighborhood he was in when he played for Shanny. McNabb will have another 30-40, and then the remaining 160-180 or so will be split between LJ and Williams, again assuming nobody suffers a major injury and misses lots of time.

 

[BigJim®]

Totally agree. Just another example of FF discarding guys who recently underperformed ADP and replacing them with flavor of the month, situational changes be damned. I got Portis @ 8.6 in one redraft, and handcuffed him with Larry Johnson @ 16.8. I've read here that Portis and Johnson have loist a step. To that I say:

Olandis Gary

Mike Anderson

Clinton Portis

Reuben Droughns

Mike Anderson/Tatum Bell

Tatum Bell/Mike Bell

So what if Johnson and Portis have lost a step, and so what if Portis was not as productive in Jim Zorn's offense. This combo is still much higher talent levels than what Shanahan has worked with in successful rushing seasons, and it is a proven recipe for production with regard to how Shanahan used Portis in Denver. In this RBBC day and age, Shanahan has a track record of relying on a bellcow. How can Portis not be value in the 7th round? I feel like I've stolen candy to get him as my 4th RB behind Turner, Greene, Spiller.

 

[dgreen]

He's one of the few RB1's with no real competition on the roster for carries.

That's the way I see it, too, but we've all been assuming a pretty healthy split between Portis and Johnson all offseason. My first projections for the Redskins was a 200:150 split in carries between Portis and Johnson. Right now, I'm definitely ok with going to 250:100. Do you see more than that? Do you see Portis possibly getting to 300 carries?

Compute it the other way - how many carries will this offense support? I think they're going to have, at a minimum, 475-500 rushing attempts as a team. Assuming the low end at 475, who's going to have the other 225 if you assume Portis has 250? I think Portis will end up with 275-290 attempts, which is the neighborhood he was in when he played for Shanny. McNabb will have another 30-40, and then the remaining 160-180 or so will be split between LJ and Williams, again assuming nobody suffers a major injury and misses lots of time.

I did compute it the other way. I started with 1010 plays, 440 of which were rushing. It broke down like this a couple months ago:

Rushing		  ATT   YDS   YPA   TDPortis	200   850   4.3	7Johnson   150   625   4.2	5McNabb	 35   170   4.9	1Torain	 30   115   3.8	1Austin	  5	40   8.0	0Sellers	10	35   3.5	0Thomas	  5	30   6.0	0Moss		2	10   5.0	0Grossman	3	10   3.3	0TOTAL	 440  1885   4.3   14

Not sure I'd say 475 is a low end, but I can see that as a possibility. If I went with 475, I'd probably project:

Rushing		  ATT   YDS   YPA   TDPortis	260  1125   4.3	9Johnson   120   480   4.0	3QBs		40   190   4.8	1Williams   35   135   3.9	2WRs		10	70   7.0	0Other RBs  10	40   4.0	0TOTAL	 475  2040   4.3   15

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Compute it the other way - how many carries will this offense support? I think they're going to have, at a minimum, 475-500 rushing attempts as a team. Assuming the low end at 475, who's going to have the other 225 if you assume Portis has 250? I think Portis will end up with 275-290 attempts, which is the neighborhood he was in when he played for Shanny. McNabb will have another 30-40, and then the remaining 160-180 or so will be split between LJ and Williams, again assuming nobody suffers a major injury and misses lots of time.

4 teams had more than 500 rushing attempts last year. 2 more teams had between 475-500 rushing attempts. I recognize that Shanahan likes to run the ball, but will the Skins be effective enough running the ball that they can control the clock and run 500 times this year?

 

[Fat Nick]

Compute it the other way - how many carries will this offense support? I think they're going to have, at a minimum, 475-500 rushing attempts as a team. Assuming the low end at 475, who's going to have the other 225 if you assume Portis has 250? I think Portis will end up with 275-290 attempts, which is the neighborhood he was in when he played for Shanny. McNabb will have another 30-40, and then the remaining 160-180 or so will be split between LJ and Williams, again assuming nobody suffers a major injury and misses lots of time.

4 teams had more than 500 rushing attempts last year. 2 more teams had between 475-500 rushing attempts. I recognize that Shanahan likes to run the ball, but will the Skins be effective enough running the ball that they can control the clock and run 500 times this year?

I agree here. I think 475 is high just based on statistical averages. The Skins will be better, but they're still a below-par football team who will be playing catch-up a lot. That said, I also would eliminate the McNabb rushes from that total, no? Shouldn't we focus on DESIGNED run plays in that count? I doubt they call many designed QB runs. I could be wrong, but that's where I'd head with it.

 

[Nightly Mistake]

Compute it the other way - how many carries will this offense support? I think they're going to have, at a minimum, 475-500 rushing attempts as a team. Assuming the low end at 475, who's going to have the other 225 if you assume Portis has 250? I think Portis will end up with 275-290 attempts, which is the neighborhood he was in when he played for Shanny. McNabb will have another 30-40, and then the remaining 160-180 or so will be split between LJ and Williams, again assuming nobody suffers a major injury and misses lots of time.

4 teams had more than 500 rushing attempts last year. 2 more teams had between 475-500 rushing attempts. I recognize that Shanahan likes to run the ball, but will the Skins be effective enough running the ball that they can control the clock and run 500 times this year?

I agree here. I think 475 is high just based on statistical averages. The Skins will be better, but they're still a below-par football team who will be playing catch-up a lot. That said, I also would eliminate the McNabb rushes from that total, no? Shouldn't we focus on DESIGNED run plays in that count? I doubt they call many designed QB runs. I could be wrong, but that's where I'd head with it.

In most seasons, even post-Elway, Shanny's offenses ran more than 475 times in a season, though in 2007-8 they ran fewer than that and Kyle Shanahan called fewer than that (425) last year for Houston. I think it's an open question, especially with an unreliable line and a poor WR corps as a group and McNabb's injury history, but I suspect a heavier reliance upon the run. The NFC East has some elite pass rushers. Also, I'd figure there will be a tendency towards close, intermediate scoring (17-24 points) games that lend themselves more to ball control than airing it out. Anyway, that's the reasoning behind those numbers.

 

[Nightly Mistake]

He's one of the few RB1's with no real competition on the roster for carries.

That's the way I see it, too, but we've all been assuming a pretty healthy split between Portis and Johnson all offseason. My first projections for the Redskins was a 200:150 split in carries between Portis and Johnson. Right now, I'm definitely ok with going to 250:100. Do you see more than that? Do you see Portis possibly getting to 300 carries?

Compute it the other way - how many carries will this offense support? I think they're going to have, at a minimum, 475-500 rushing attempts as a team. Assuming the low end at 475, who's going to have the other 225 if you assume Portis has 250? I think Portis will end up with 275-290 attempts, which is the neighborhood he was in when he played for Shanny. McNabb will have another 30-40, and then the remaining 160-180 or so will be split between LJ and Williams, again assuming nobody suffers a major injury and misses lots of time.

I did compute it the other way. I started with 1010 plays, 440 of which were rushing. It broke down like this a couple months ago:

Rushing		  ATT   YDS   YPA   TDPortis	200   850   4.3	7Johnson   150   625   4.2	5McNabb	 35   170   4.9	1Torain	 30   115   3.8	1Austin	  5	40   8.0	0Sellers	10	35   3.5	0Thomas	  5	30   6.0	0Moss		2	10   5.0	0Grossman	3	10   3.3	0TOTAL	 440  1885   4.3   14

Not sure I'd say 475 is a low end, but I can see that as a possibility. If I went with 475, I'd probably project:

Rushing		  ATT   YDS   YPA   TDPortis	260  1125   4.3	9Johnson   120   480   4.0	3QBs		40   190   4.8	1Williams   35   135   3.9	2WRs		10	70   7.0	0Other RBs  10	40   4.0	0TOTAL	 475  2040   4.3   15

I don't mind this breakdown, and I certainly think it makes the point. Portis is going to be heavily used, especially in this day and age, and I suspect that would land him in the top 10, especially when you add in his receiving numbers.

 

[Fat Nick]

In most seasons, even post-Elway, Shanny's offenses ran more than 475 times in a season, though in 2007-8 they ran fewer than that and Kyle Shanahan called fewer than that (425) last year for Houston. I think it's an open question, especially with an unreliable line and a poor WR corps as a group and McNabb's injury history, but I suspect a heavier reliance upon the run. The NFC East has some elite pass rushers. Also, I'd figure there will be a tendency towards close, intermediate scoring (17-24 points) games that lend themselves more to ball control than airing it out. Anyway, that's the reasoning behind those numbers.

Fair enough. I think the league in general has gone much more to the pass than the run in recent years, and Kyle's recent numbers would back that trend. I do definately agree that they will be looking for a tempo of intermediate scoring close games given their lack of a game-breaker and that ball-control will be the key, so that pushes the needle back up. As an owner of Portis AND Moss, I just hope the offense clicks.

 

[two_dollars]

Corey Dillon..

Curtis Martin..

Clinton Portis??

 

[Nightly Mistake]

In most seasons, even post-Elway, Shanny's offenses ran more than 475 times in a season, though in 2007-8 they ran fewer than that and Kyle Shanahan called fewer than that (425) last year for Houston. I think it's an open question, especially with an unreliable line and a poor WR corps as a group and McNabb's injury history, but I suspect a heavier reliance upon the run. The NFC East has some elite pass rushers. Also, I'd figure there will be a tendency towards close, intermediate scoring (17-24 points) games that lend themselves more to ball control than airing it out. Anyway, that's the reasoning behind those numbers.

Fair enough. I think the league in general has gone much more to the pass than the run in recent years, and Kyle's recent numbers would back that trend. I do definately agree that they will be looking for a tempo of intermediate scoring close games given their lack of a game-breaker and that ball-control will be the key, so that pushes the needle back up. As an owner of Portis AND Moss, I just hope the offense clicks.

Keep in mind that this offense has neither Brandon Marshall nor Andre Johnson, or anything remotely approaching those guys. Its best receivers are Cooley and Davis, and two-TE sets lend themselves just as much to running as passing. Injury keeps Portis out of the top 10 this year, but not much else.

 

[JMJ]

Portis was a target for me in both my drafts, only got him in one however.I think LJ is pretty much done. He hasn't looked good in years and just seems so slow and average-at-best these days. Is there any chance should Portis suffer a significant injury that Keiland Williams and not LJ would become the handcuff to have?Skins fans?

Skins fans? Little help here, please?

 

[dgreen]

Portis was a target for me in both my drafts, only got him in one however.I think LJ is pretty much done. He hasn't looked good in years and just seems so slow and average-at-best these days. Is there any chance should Portis suffer a significant injury that Keiland Williams and not LJ would become the handcuff to have?Skins fans?

Skins fans? Little help here, please?

Any chance? Sure. But, to give a strong opinion either way at this point would be crazy. There just isn't enough info right now to be able to say.

 

[Fat Nick]

Portis was a target for me in both my drafts, only got him in one however.I think LJ is pretty much done. He hasn't looked good in years and just seems so slow and average-at-best these days. Is there any chance should Portis suffer a significant injury that Keiland Williams and not LJ would become the handcuff to have?Skins fans?

Skins fans? Little help here, please?

This.If you're handcuffing Portis, you've got bigger issues.Truthfully, if Portis goes down, I think you'll just see a mess of a backfield consisting of LJ, Williams, random FA's, maybe the beer guy and a sprinkle or two of one of the Hog-ettes carrying the rock.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Anyone rolling with Portis vs DAL???

A combination of DAL looking bad this year, WAS coming strong out of the gates (and Portis especially) and my other option being CAR Steve Smith who hasnt been on the field in 9 months has me considering Portis this week.

 

[zoonation]

people saying that Portis is going to be a top ten back barring injury need a serious reaqlity check. He was done last year. He is going to split carries. He is a marginal RB 3 at best and if you are starting him you have big problems.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

people saying that Portis is going to be a top ten back barring injury need a serious reaqlity check. He was done last year. He is going to split carries. He is a marginal RB 3 at best and if you are starting him you have big problems.

I'd be interested to hear more about why you think this.The Redskins offense last year under Zorn reminds me of the Raiders offense a few years back (the year before they traded away Moss), when they had one of the worst offensive schemes in modern history. The Skins were nearly equally inept last year. The Zorn offense was pathetically predictable -- and it's not at all a stretch to suggest that affected Portis.It was also clear that Portis considered Zorn a joke and didn't come into the season in good shape. We have good reason to expect a Portis rebound.

 

[Kenny Powers]

people saying that Portis is going to be a top ten back barring injury need a serious reaqlity check. He was done last year. He is going to split carries. He is a marginal RB 3 at best and if you are starting him you have big problems.

I think most people ended up being able to get Portis as their RB4. At that point, he's all upside whether he finishes Top 10 or not. If he's stays healthy, he's more like a marginal RB3 at WORST.As for teh splitting carries thing, I think Portis ends up with a greater % of teh WAS carries than some would believe. I might not call him the workhorse, but I also think WAS will be far from a RBBC

 

[Nightly Mistake]

people saying that Portis is going to be a top ten back barring injury need a serious reaqlity check. He was done last year. He is going to split carries. He is a marginal RB 3 at best and if you are starting him you have big problems.

I think most people ended up being able to get Portis as their RB4. At that point, he's all upside whether he finishes Top 10 or not. If he's stays healthy, he's more like a marginal RB3 at WORST.As for teh splitting carries thing, I think Portis ends up with a greater % of teh WAS carries than some would believe. I might not call him the workhorse, but I also think WAS will be far from a RBBC

 

[TwinTurbo]

The ADP for Portis in drafts this year was absolute thievery. He was drafted around RB#35 on average which usually was 8th round in 12 team leagues. He was always the last starting RB to be drafted and several RBBC backs were drafted ahead of him. Huge value in the 8th round for sure and he should get 250+ carries if healthy.

 

[Voodoo Rage]

9th round for me on a roster absolutely begging for RB depth, I'll take him. But honestly, I really hope I'm never in a position where I really need to start him...

 

[Steed]

People were saying 3rd round last year for him was thievery too, that didn't work out so well. Keiland's the play here.

 

[qimqam]

This is my 5th year of fantasy football and I never drafted Portis before, because he always got taken in the first round (last year, 2nd round.) I always figured that was too high for a guy who never seemed to finish the year. But this year there he was in the middle of my draft, so I grabbed him up. And it seems to me that though he was never what I wanted as an RB1, he is very satisfactory as low RB2/RB3. He really has very little competition for carries. Shanahan loves to run the ball. Of course injuries are always a concern, but if he can stay healthy I think he could be very productive this year. In a year where there are so many untested guys being hyped (and with good reason, don't get me wrong) this 29 year old experienced RB may be a consistent producer for much of the season. Anyone agree?

I agree ... Let's just pretend Portis didn't have under 500 yds and 1 td rushing last year And Larry Johnson with 800 less touches isn't on the team And Keiland Williams the rookie who shannie loves doesn't existAnd he is totally healthy and doesn't really have a bad ankle.and it's 2008 Steal of the draft

 

[Nightly Mistake]

This is my 5th year of fantasy football and I never drafted Portis before, because he always got taken in the first round (last year, 2nd round.) I always figured that was too high for a guy who never seemed to finish the year. But this year there he was in the middle of my draft, so I grabbed him up. And it seems to me that though he was never what I wanted as an RB1, he is very satisfactory as low RB2/RB3. He really has very little competition for carries. Shanahan loves to run the ball. Of course injuries are always a concern, but if he can stay healthy I think he could be very productive this year. In a year where there are so many untested guys being hyped (and with good reason, don't get me wrong) this 29 year old experienced RB may be a consistent producer for much of the season. Anyone agree?

I agree ... Let's just pretend Portis didn't have under 500 yds and 1 td rushing last year And Larry Johnson with 800 less touches isn't on the team And Keiland Williams the rookie who shannie loves doesn't existAnd he is totally healthy and doesn't really have a bad ankle.and it's 2008 Steal of the draft

You're going to feel silly for posting this by mid-year. For starters, your "analysis" consists of retrospective, only. Classic mistake.

 

[qimqam]

This is my 5th year of fantasy football and I never drafted Portis before, because he always got taken in the first round (last year, 2nd round.) I always figured that was too high for a guy who never seemed to finish the year. But this year there he was in the middle of my draft, so I grabbed him up. And it seems to me that though he was never what I wanted as an RB1, he is very satisfactory as low RB2/RB3. He really has very little competition for carries. Shanahan loves to run the ball. Of course injuries are always a concern, but if he can stay healthy I think he could be very productive this year. In a year where there are so many untested guys being hyped (and with good reason, don't get me wrong) this 29 year old experienced RB may be a consistent producer for much of the season. Anyone agree?

I agree ... Let's just pretend Portis didn't have under 500 yds and 1 td rushing last year And Larry Johnson with 800 less touches isn't on the team And Keiland Williams the rookie who shannie loves doesn't existAnd he is totally healthy and doesn't really have a bad ankle.and it's 2008 Steal of the draft

You're going to feel silly for posting this by mid-year. For starters, your "analysis" consists of retrospective, only. Classic mistake.

Retrospective? I think u should read it again

 

[dgreen]

Portis had 18 of the 21 RB rush attempts. The Redskins only ran 55 offensive plays (25:57 of possession). I'd guess, on average, they'll be more in the 60-65 range and have the ball 4 more minutes. So, I think Portis can easily be around 20 touches per game. But, what can he do with those touches? Unfortunately, the run blocking wasn't very impressive. For most of the game, there weren't many holes. Towards the end of the game they were better, but they need to improve there. Also, McNabb was a little off (and receivers were dropping balls). The passing game will need to be more productive to help open some holes. Of course, that was a tough D they played, so overall I think we can still be positive about Portis 2010.