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Is D. Williams really the #2 RB in this draft? (1 Viewer)

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Let me start off by saying that I see Williams as the #2 back due to his many positives like college production, strength, vison, balance, recieiving ability and elusiveness. There are some serious concerns that some, not all, scouts or "experts" have voiced about him though. The negatives on him like lack of height, size and top end speed, along with questionable pass protection skills have been the ammunition that some scouts are using to donwgrade Williams and put some of the other backs in front of him. I've seen him ranked as low as 5th or 6th of the upcoming draft picks in this draft!!! (See NFL Network on Demand)

Many on this board seem to be really high on him, as shown by the numerous posts and the #12 overall dynasty ranking given to him just a week or so ago. Are the scouts correct that backs like White, Maroney and Addai will be better pro backs than Williams? What are people on this board seeing in him that some scouts aren't? Does his game translate to the NFL that will have him in the elite status of RBs?

Many of us are considering him in our upcoming rookie drafts and I want to have the order of talent a little clearer before I see what teams they go to. I don't want to reach for a player due to position over talent; as we saw in many drafts last year with JJ Arrrington.

 
My question is who are these "scouts" that you refer to? All i have heard is that several GMs and head coaches are absolutely in love with Deangelo Williams. This isnt blanket vague statements about what the "scouts" said, these are direct quotes from the likes of Floyd Reese, Jeff Fisher, Mike Nolan, and others. I think if anything NFL front offices are being hush-hush on Denagelo because IMO there are many teams desperately hoping that they can land him in the #15 to #25 range.

I personally feel that he grades out equally with Caddy coming out last year, and I actually think he will be a little bit better in the NFL because he has better vision and better strength in his lower body to take hits.

 
My question is who are these "scouts" that you refer to?  All i have heard is that several GMs and head coaches are absolutely in love with Deangelo Williams. 
I was thining the same thing. Probably the same scouts who were so high on Ryan Leaf & Freddie Mitchell.I think Williams may end being a better pro & a better FF RB than Bush, because he wants the ball every play & he's capable of 25+ touches a game. He's a legit receiving threat out of the backfield as well.I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
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There's little about this draft to which I'm certain. I have my opinion of the QBs and I know there's a good chance I could be wrong. Same with every position for that matter. But DeAngelo as RB2 is something I feel can be taken to the bank.

 
I believe Williams will be the 2nd Rb taken after Bush. And possibly higher than many mocks are projecting.

Maroney may end up in a better situation though which will cause fantasy owners to make a decision between talent and situation.

Williams has the best track record of all the Rbs. Better than Bush's really.

 
Thanks for all of the comments guys. I'm hoping for some discussion here.

The comment about GMs and Coaches praising him means nothing to me this time of year. I trust nothing they say about any player or who they like, etc. The question was made what scouts have been down on him. My answer is in three parts. After watching virtually all the ESPN and NFL Network coverage of the draft, I've heard from analysts like Mike Mayock, Mel Kiper, and others that his stock has been falling. In fact, Mayock has him as his #5 RB. Second, I have seen many draft sites and read every draft mag I can find at the grocery store, and I would say that more than half of the them have Williams outside of the top two RBs and some have him at 4th or 5th. Finally, if Williams is on par with Caddy from last year, then why isn't he being considered in the top 5? The top 10? The top 15? In fact, the earliest I've seen him projected is the Minnesota, with maybe an outside chance to Denver at 15 now that they've traded pick #22.

Look, I like Williams a lot. If my rookie draft were today, I'd lean towards Williams with the 2nd overall pick I have. It's just a lot of people out there are questioning him and I haven't seen this much dissension between the #2 RB and the #5 RB before. Any more input on this would be great!

 
I think there are two big factors scouts are looking at when it comes to D'Angelo:

1. He's small.

2. He's had injury issues in the past.

He is only 5'9, 214, and has had a broken foot, broken leg, a knee sprain, and an MCL tear in his left knee already. Usually with broken bones, it's usually from landing on it funny or having it get hit, broken bones mend over time. The knee injuries should have people concerned, though, especially with the mileage he's racked up at Memphis (Three 1000 yard seasons and almost 700 yards in his first season).

However, unlike Lawrence Maroney, they say D'Angelo is designed to be a smaller guy and he has a good build for his size, unlike Maroney, who is three inches taller and about the same weight and could stand adding about 5-10 pounds.

And unlike LenDale White, he's intellegent and has a reputation as an excellent team leader. Everyone raves about what a "good guy" he is.

D'Angelo, in my mind, is the 2nd best RB in the draft, and because of his intellegence and character, I believe presents the highest upside between him, LenDale, and Maroney. He'd be perfect in a Patriots uniform spelling Dillon while eventually taking over in mid-2007.

 
I think he's being overhyped. That doesn't mean he's going to be a bust, but I definitely think his value is being inflated on this board. I've seen a lot of mxied reviews on him among my various sources. Some people really like him, but others have him as low as 4-6 in their RB rankings. I personally think he's going to be a marginal to slightly above average starter in the NFL.

 
I think there are two big factors scouts are looking at when it comes to D'Angelo:

1. He's small.

2. He's had injury issues in the past.

He is only 5'9, 214, and has had a broken foot, broken leg, a knee sprain, and an MCL tear in his left knee already. Usually with broken bones, it's usually from landing on it funny or having it get hit, broken bones mend over time. The knee injuries should have people concerned, though, especially with the mileage he's racked up at Memphis (Three 1000 yard seasons and almost 700 yards in his first season).

However, unlike Lawrence Maroney, they say D'Angelo is designed to be a smaller guy and he has a good build for his size, unlike Maroney, who is three inches taller and about the same weight and could stand adding about 5-10 pounds.

And unlike LenDale White, he's intellegent and has a reputation as an excellent team leader. Everyone raves about what a "good guy" he is.

D'Angelo, in my mind, is the 2nd best RB in the draft, and because of his intellegence and character, I believe presents the highest upside between him, LenDale, and Maroney. He'd be perfect in a Patriots uniform spelling Dillon while eventually taking over in mid-2007.
I view him as Cadillac with more mileage and some injuries.
 
I think there are two big factors scouts are looking at when it comes to D'Angelo:

1. He's small.

2. He's had injury issues in the past.

He is only 5'9, 214, and has had a broken foot, broken leg, a knee sprain, and an MCL tear in his left knee already. Usually with broken bones, it's usually from landing on it funny or having it get hit, broken bones mend over time. The knee injuries should have people concerned, though, especially with the mileage he's racked up at Memphis (Three 1000 yard seasons and almost 700 yards in his first season).

However, unlike Lawrence Maroney, they say D'Angelo is designed to be a smaller guy and he has a good build for his size, unlike Maroney, who is three inches taller and about the same weight and could stand adding about 5-10 pounds.

And unlike LenDale White, he's intellegent and has a reputation as an excellent team leader. Everyone raves about what a "good guy" he is.

D'Angelo, in my mind, is the 2nd best RB in the draft, and because of his intellegence and character, I believe presents the highest upside between him, LenDale, and Maroney. He'd be perfect in a Patriots uniform spelling Dillon while eventually taking over in mid-2007.
I view him as Cadillac with more mileage and some injuries.
The Cadillac comparison is perfect. If I recall, didn't Cadillac have some injury issues himself?
 
I think he's being overhyped. That doesn't mean he's going to be a bust, but I definitely think his value is being inflated on this board. I've seen a lot of mxied reviews on him among my various sources. Some people really like him, but others have him as low as 4-6 in their RB rankings. I personally think he's going to be a marginal to slightly above average starter in the NFL.
This is my point exactly. I see him as a slight favorite to be the #2 back in this draft. But, maybe that's becuase the other backs outside of Bush are only average to above average. White, Maroney and Addai all have their own issues and their share of weaknesses. There aren't multiple backs in this draft that are coming out and lighting the NFL on fire. I realize that a lot of this comes down to team, teammates, system, coaches, schedule, etc. I am beginning to think that maybe this is a year to trade down to a lower pick or out of this draft if you get value, grab multiple firsts for next year and go after the backs in that draft.
 
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