IS FWP STILL A TOP RB#2... (1 Viewer)

[RamMan]

I drafetd FWP as my RB#2 a week or so after Cowher told the media that Parker would be the 3rd down back and also have a chance to earn the GL carries. After the first game vs. MIA in which Parker had 29 carries, I thought I had a gem of a RB#2. Now that Davenport is in town, and after only ONE GAME, it is clear that Cowher wants to limit FWP's carries (perhaps around 20/game) and utilize other options at the goal line.

Does this still make FWP a top RB#2 in your opinion? In other words, do you think he still finishes in the top 15?

 

[strong]

I drafetd FWP as my RB#2 a week or so after Cowher told the media that Parker would be the 3rd down back and also have a chance to earn the GL carries. After the first game vs. MIA in which Parker had 29 carries, I thought I had a gem of a RB#2. Now that Davenport is in town, and after only ONE GAME, it is clear that Cowher wants to limit FWP's carries (perhaps around 20/game) and utilize other options at the goal line. Does this still make FWP a top RB#2 in your opinion? In other words, do you think he still finishes in the top 15?

Why is it clear that FWP won't get the goalline carries?

 

[CrossEyed]

I drafetd FWP as my RB#2 a week or so after Cowher told the media that Parker would be the 3rd down back and also have a chance to earn the GL carries. After the first game vs. MIA in which Parker had 29 carries, I thought I had a gem of a RB#2. Now that Davenport is in town, and after only ONE GAME, it is clear that Cowher wants to limit FWP's carries (perhaps around 20/game) and utilize other options at the goal line.

Does this still make FWP a top RB#2 in your opinion? In other words, do you think he still finishes in the top 15?

Why is it clear that FWP won't get the goalline carries?

Good question. Why are people jumping to this conclusion?

 

[LawFitz]

I drafetd FWP as my RB#2 a week or so after Cowher told the media that Parker would be the 3rd down back and also have a chance to earn the GL carries. After the first game vs. MIA in which Parker had 29 carries, I thought I had a gem of a RB#2. Now that Davenport is in town, and after only ONE GAME, it is clear that Cowher wants to limit FWP's carries (perhaps around 20/game) and utilize other options at the goal line. Does this still make FWP a top RB#2 in your opinion? In other words, do you think he still finishes in the top 15?

You've got nothing to fear.Davenpoop will be hurt by week 5.

 

[TitusIII]

The Steelers didn't have many plays inside the Miami 5 (the only play I can remember was the Batch fumble), so it is too early to tell.

 

[imeimex]

Najeh Davenport-RB- Steelers Sep. 13 - 10:56 am et

Steelers head coach Bill Cowher is now hoping one of his running backs will fill the short-yardage role vacated by retired Jerome Bettis.

"Somebody will hopefully come in and fill that role," Cowher said. It sounds like he's not satisfied with Willie Parker taking the goal-line touches. Najeh Davenport, who reportedly could be active for Monday night's affair, is a candidate to take Bettis' old duties.

Source: Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

 

[TitusIII]

Nevermind, that quote pretty much says it all. NEvertheless, Parker is like Dunn in that he will get his TD's from outside the 10.

 

[RamMan]

I drafetd FWP as my RB#2 a week or so after Cowher told the media that Parker would be the 3rd down back and also have a chance to earn the GL carries. After the first game vs. MIA in which Parker had 29 carries, I thought I had a gem of a RB#2. Now that Davenport is in town, and after only ONE GAME, it is clear that Cowher wants to limit FWP's carries (perhaps around 20/game) and utilize other options at the goal line.

Does this still make FWP a top RB#2 in your opinion? In other words, do you think he still finishes in the top 15?

Why is it clear that FWP won't get the goalline carries?

I'm simply reading the tea leaves:1) Team loses short yardage and GL stud in off season

2) Team has smallish, quick RB who has never filled the 3rd down or GL role

3) Team then brings in 6'1", 250 lb. back who's spent most of his career as a short-yardage guy

4) Tea leaves not that hard to read in my opinion

 

[imeimex]

Nevermind, that quote pretty much says it all. NEvertheless, Parker is like Dunn in that he will get his TD's from outside the 10.

I don't know if it says it all, as you mentioned FWP didn't really get a shot on Thursday. He never really has been given a shot, but showed he could get tough yards against the Dolphins. I am assuming that quote is what the thread creator was referring to though. Personally I think it might still be up in the air. Davenport is a bigger back but never really proved to be a short yardage back for the Packers.

 

[strong]

Najeh Davenport-RB- Steelers Sep. 13 - 10:56 am et Steelers head coach Bill Cowher is now hoping one of his running backs will fill the short-yardage role vacated by retired Jerome Bettis."Somebody will hopefully come in and fill that role," Cowher said. It sounds like he's not satisfied with Willie Parker taking the goal-line touches. Najeh Davenport, who reportedly could be active for Monday night's affair, is a candidate to take Bettis' old duties.Source: Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

Okay... but everyone that watched the game saw Parker raise his hand to come out on the one yard line because he had just carried the ball a few times in a row... But there's still nothing to suggest Danevport will win the job from Parker... My guess is he might, but probably not to the extent Bettis did last year.

 

[RamMan]

No one has ventured an opinion yet as to whether or not FWP finsihes in the top 15 now that Davenport has been brought in.

 

[Lauryn]

at the parker owners in denial

"WHERE? WHERE DOES IT SAY IT! LINK! PROVE IT!"

 

[NoFBinLA]

No one has ventured an opinion yet as to whether or not FWP finsihes in the top 15 now that Davenport has been brought in.

I think he has a strong chance to - I think he puts up good yards and gets more than enough TDs from outside the goal line to warrant it.I suck at projections so I have no guess as to how his totals will look, but I think he'll do it.We'll see if Davenport can steal those goal line carries effectively too. If not -- how long can Pitt go signing or trading for every 3rd string RB in and out of the NFL? Parker didn't really get much of a chance Thursday -- but I dunno if he's built for the pounding....

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Didn't FWP finish as RB13 last year despite Bettis stealing much more than just goalline carries? Last I checked in 12 team leagues RB13 makes you THE top #2 RB and he is in a better situation now and has improved as a player as well.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

at the parker owners in denial"WHERE? WHERE DOES IT SAY IT! LINK! PROVE IT!"

I actually want to see something happen on the football field before making a judgement. also, I freakin hate it when someone posts rotoworld's commentary. First, everyone and their brother has been to rotoworld and seen it, second, those guys are guessing just like everyone else.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Gee Another Davenport thread.

As a FWP owner Im not worried.

Daveport isn't very good and is injury prone.

 

[Urinal Mint]

I'd rather have him get 20 touches a game and play 16 games as opposed to 30 touches a game and sitting out 4-5 games due to injury.

 

[bentley]

Didn't FWP finish as RB13 last year despite Bettis stealing much more than just goalline carries? Last I checked in 12 team leagues RB13 makes you THE top #2 RB and he is in a better situation now and has improved as a player as well.

This was the point I was coming in here to make. He has a year of experience, less competition for carries between the 20s and a less proven short yardage/goal line back. Maybe he's not a #2 that performs as a #1 now, but I still think he's a very solid #2. Wish I had him.

 

[Kyzersosik]

so Parker loses some goal line carries. He also will probabley get "only" 18-22 carries a game. Could actually work out to his and Pitts bebefit. A fresher Parker will play more games, keep his burst, and be more in the mix in the passing game. 1500+ total yds, 9-11 scores.

 

[jon_mx]

There was the 4th and 1 in the Pittsburg game, and guess who got the carry and made it?

 

[Bankerguy]

He looks good to me. He will continue to put up great #'s.

 

[RamMan]

There was the 4th and 1 in the Pittsburg game, and guess who got the carry and made it?

Davenport wasn't around at the time. Only lardass Staley.

 

[cr8f]

I drafetd FWP as my RB#2 a week or so after Cowher told the media that Parker would be the 3rd down back and also have a chance to earn the GL carries. After the first game vs. MIA in which Parker had 29 carries, I thought I had a gem of a RB#2. Now that Davenport is in town, and after only ONE GAME, it is clear that Cowher wants to limit FWP's carries (perhaps around 20/game) and utilize other options at the goal line.

Does this still make FWP a top RB#2 in your opinion? In other words, do you think he still finishes in the top 15?

Why is it clear that FWP won't get the goalline carries?

I'm simply reading the tea leaves:3) Team then brings in 6'1", 250 lb. back who's spent most of his career as a short-yardage guy

#3 really isn't true. Davenport was a relief back for Green and not a GL runner. He got some but less than Green. That isn't his forte although he can do it. He has speed and power but runs upright making him pretty easy to tackle.

 

[CalBear]

Parker had a grand total of 1 carry inside the 5 in 2005, and finished as RB#15 (a top RB#2).

 

[menobrown]

I drafetd FWP as my RB#2 a week or so after Cowher told the media that Parker would be the 3rd down back and also have a chance to earn the GL carries. After the first game vs. MIA in which Parker had 29 carries, I thought I had a gem of a RB#2. Now that Davenport is in town, and after only ONE GAME, it is clear that Cowher wants to limit FWP's carries (perhaps around 20/game) and utilize other options at the goal line. Does this still make FWP a top RB#2 in your opinion? In other words, do you think he still finishes in the top 15?

Why is it clear that FWP won't get the goalline carries?

Why would he when he did not get them before Davenport?

 

[Irish]

I drafetd FWP as my RB#2 a week or so after Cowher told the media that Parker would be the 3rd down back and also have a chance to earn the GL carries. After the first game vs. MIA in which Parker had 29 carries, I thought I had a gem of a RB#2. Now that Davenport is in town, and after only ONE GAME, it is clear that Cowher wants to limit FWP's carries (perhaps around 20/game) and utilize other options at the goal line. Does this still make FWP a top RB#2 in your opinion? In other words, do you think he still finishes in the top 15?

 

[None_More_Black]

When did cower ever say that FWP would be the third down back? It think it was clear that haynes(hayes?) would continue in that role. (which he did last thursday). I think fwp will get the goaline carries and that davenport is just cheap insurance. We will see after this week.

 

[walkwithme]

The season is early guys are over-reacting. If he plays all 16 games he is a top flight RB2 in a 12 team league. This is regardless of Najeh Davenport stealing some of his goaline Td's. Check his numbers in 15 games last year and see where he finished up with Bettis. He is one of the backs in the league that you know if he gets the ball 17-23 he will bust off a 30+yrd run. If you are playing in a TD only league or PPR league then I understand your grief but you should have known how the steelers planned on using him before your drafted him.

 

[stbugs]

I drafetd FWP as my RB#2 a week or so after Cowher told the media that Parker would be the 3rd down back and also have a chance to earn the GL carries. After the first game vs. MIA in which Parker had 29 carries, I thought I had a gem of a RB#2. Now that Davenport is in town, and after only ONE GAME, it is clear that Cowher wants to limit FWP's carries (perhaps around 20/game) and utilize other options at the goal line. Does this still make FWP a top RB#2 in your opinion? In other words, do you think he still finishes in the top 15?

Why is it clear that FWP won't get the goalline carries?

Why would he when he did not get them before Davenport?

Did you watch the game at all?He got a key 4th and 1 and converted. He also got a carry at the 7 yard line and gained 6 yards/almost scoring before the infamous fumble after Parker raised his hand for a breather or break.There were 5 offensive plays for the Steelers in the red zone. 2 passes (1 incomplete and 1 TD) and 3 runs of which Parker had 2 (6 yards each time) and Batch fumbled the handoff to Haynes. If Parker doesn't take a breather then he probably gets all 3 red zone rushes.I still don't understand the Najeh love. All I know for sure is that the Steelers like him more than Patrick Cobbs. Wow, that means he must be the perfect replacement for a HOF RB. Come on folks, be realistic. Yes, of course there is a chance that he becomes a 10 TD vulture, but let's not get him in the starting lineup when he couldn't even do that in Green Bay over Gado and Green both coming off bad injuries.

 

[None_More_Black]

Najeh Davenport-RB- Steelers Sep. 13 - 10:56 am et Steelers head coach Bill Cowher is now hoping one of his running backs will fill the short-yardage role vacated by retired Jerome Bettis."Somebody will hopefully come in and fill that role," Cowher said. It sounds like he's not satisfied with Willie Parker taking the goal-line touches. Najeh Davenport, who reportedly could be active for Monday night's affair, is a candidate to take Bettis' old duties.Source: Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

This quote was made before the season started, not when they signed davenport.

 

[shadow2k]

I'm looking at last years #'s, and he finished as RB #21 in my PPR league.

 

[dallas428]

Im not worried at all

 

[walkwithme]

I'm looking at last years #'s, and he finished as RB #21 in my PPR league.

That is what I am saying if you picked him in the second round in a ppr league he isn't that valuable because the Steelers already use Verron Haynes as a 3rd down back hence he won't receive many receptions. The thing you might need to look at is the difference between RB 13 and RB24 for a 12 team league. If he isn't that many points behind a couple players then it is pretty much a wash and he is just as good as the next RB #2.

 

[menobrown]

I drafetd FWP as my RB#2 a week or so after Cowher told the media that Parker would be the 3rd down back and also have a chance to earn the GL carries. After the first game vs. MIA in which Parker had 29 carries, I thought I had a gem of a RB#2. Now that Davenport is in town, and after only ONE GAME, it is clear that Cowher wants to limit FWP's carries (perhaps around 20/game) and utilize other options at the goal line. Does this still make FWP a top RB#2 in your opinion? In other words, do you think he still finishes in the top 15?

Why is it clear that FWP won't get the goalline carries?

Why would he when he did not get them before Davenport?

Did you watch the game at all?He got a key 4th and 1 and converted. He also got a carry at the 7 yard line and gained 6 yards/almost scoring before the infamous fumble after Parker raised his hand for a breather or break.There were 5 offensive plays for the Steelers in the red zone. 2 passes (1 incomplete and 1 TD) and 3 runs of which Parker had 2 (6 yards each time) and Batch fumbled the handoff to Haynes. If Parker doesn't take a breather then he probably gets all 3 red zone rushes.I still don't understand the Najeh love. All I know for sure is that the Steelers like him more than Patrick Cobbs. Wow, that means he must be the perfect replacement for a HOF RB. Come on folks, be realistic. Yes, of course there is a chance that he becomes a 10 TD vulture, but let's not get him in the starting lineup when he couldn't even do that in Green Bay over Gado and Green both coming off bad injuries.

I'm sorry but raising your hand is not a clear sign he wanted breather and he could very well have been raising his hand as if to ask, "me"? Him getting the carry on 4th and 1 meant nothing as he has a chance to break that for a long run. Tiki also stays in the game when the Giants are inside the 10 but usually comes out when they get inside the 5. Say what you want but I did watch that game and no RB in the league asks out on the one yard line.

 

[Godsbrother]

Davenport has yet to have a carry with the Steelers and people are already anoiting him the goal-line back and one guy in the other thread was saying he was one injury away from being the starter!

Calm down. The jury is still our on who (if any) Steeler RB assumes the role of goal line back. Davenport has an opportunity, what he does with it is still yet to be determined...

 

[Texican]

Does this still make FWP a top RB#2 in your opinion?

Nope. He's bottom RB#1

 

[shadow2k]

I'm looking at last years #'s, and he finished as RB #21 in my PPR league.

That is what I am saying if you picked him in the second round in a ppr league he isn't that valuable because the Steelers already use Verron Haynes as a 3rd down back hence he won't receive many receptions. The thing you might need to look at is the difference between RB 13 and RB24 for a 12 team league. If he isn't that many points behind a couple players then it is pretty much a wash and he is just as good as the next RB #2.

Well, let's put it this way. He finished 7pts behind Chris Brown. JJones, Caddy, Dunn, and McGahee weren't too far ahead (within 20pts). So...say he could easily have been #16. Upper half of RB 2's I guess.But then, you can do that for any player. So he could easily have been #28 going 20pts the other way.It all depends on the GL touches, because we know he's getting pulled on 3rd down. Either way, I think he's a solid #2 RB. Not like there are a ton of other better options out there that don't have other backs taking carries away, or catching tons of passes. Personally, I've got Foster/F.Taylor as my #2/#3 and I think Foster and/or Taylor could end up ahead of him at the end of the year.

 

[menobrown]

I'm looking at last years #'s, and he finished as RB #21 in my PPR league.

That is what I am saying if you picked him in the second round in a ppr league he isn't that valuable because the Steelers already use Verron Haynes as a 3rd down back hence he won't receive many receptions. The thing you might need to look at is the difference between RB 13 and RB24 for a 12 team league. If he isn't that many points behind a couple players then it is pretty much a wash and he is just as good as the next RB #2.

Well, let's put it this way. He finished 7pts behind Chris Brown. JJones, Caddy, Dunn, and McGahee weren't too far ahead (within 20pts). So...say he could easily have been #16. Upper half of RB 2's I guess.But then, you can do that for any player. So he could easily have been #28 going 20pts the other way.It all depends on the GL touches, because we know he's getting pulled on 3rd down. Either way, I think he's a solid #2 RB. Not like there are a ton of other better options out there that don't have other backs taking carries away, or catching tons of passes. Personally, I've got Foster/F.Taylor as my #2/#3 and I think Foster and/or Taylor could end up ahead of him at the end of the year.

To me it's real simple. If FWP got the goal line carries he is #1RB easy and if he's pulled at the GL he's still a solid #2 and maybe still a #1. He still has a few things going for him:1. The screen pass to him was something the Steelers starting using in the playoffs last year and appears to be much larger part of the offense this season. Getting the ball to him in the open field will be dangerous for opposing defenses and this helps him greatly in PPR leagues even with him coming out on third down. I think he's in line for a decent 40 catch season.2. He's simply better than last year and to me it's easy to see. His patience seems so much better. People forget how little he played in college so he both had a lot to learn and also build up his stamina which I believe he has done.3. He'll still score 8-10 TD's with no GL work.

 

[shadow2k]

I'm looking at last years #'s, and he finished as RB #21 in my PPR league.

That is what I am saying if you picked him in the second round in a ppr league he isn't that valuable because the Steelers already use Verron Haynes as a 3rd down back hence he won't receive many receptions. The thing you might need to look at is the difference between RB 13 and RB24 for a 12 team league. If he isn't that many points behind a couple players then it is pretty much a wash and he is just as good as the next RB #2.

Well, let's put it this way. He finished 7pts behind Chris Brown. JJones, Caddy, Dunn, and McGahee weren't too far ahead (within 20pts). So...say he could easily have been #16. Upper half of RB 2's I guess.But then, you can do that for any player. So he could easily have been #28 going 20pts the other way.It all depends on the GL touches, because we know he's getting pulled on 3rd down. Either way, I think he's a solid #2 RB. Not like there are a ton of other better options out there that don't have other backs taking carries away, or catching tons of passes. Personally, I've got Foster/F.Taylor as my #2/#3 and I think Foster and/or Taylor could end up ahead of him at the end of the year.

To me it's real simple. If FWP got the goal line carries he is #1RB easy and if he's pulled at the GL he's still a solid #2 and maybe still a #1. He still has a few things going for him:1. The screen pass to him was something the Steelers starting using in the playoffs last year and appears to be much larger part of the offense this season. Getting the ball to him in the open field will be dangerous for opposing defenses and this helps him greatly in PPR leagues even with him coming out on third down. I think he's in line for a decent 40 catch season.2. He's simply better than last year and to me it's easy to see. His patience seems so much better. People forget how little he played in college so he both had a lot to learn and also build up his stamina which I believe he has done.3. He'll still score 8-10 TD's with no GL work.

It's not just getting the GL touches. He has to convert them as well. I simply see him as a RB#2, regardless of GL, unless he's in there on 3rd down as well. But that won't happen.Obviously people will disagree though, he was drafted at 1.11 in my 12 team PPR league, right after the news about the GL carries got out.

 

[chris1969]

I drafetd FWP as my RB#2 a week or so after Cowher told the media that Parker would be the 3rd down back and also have a chance to earn the GL carries. After the first game vs. MIA in which Parker had 29 carries, I thought I had a gem of a RB#2. Now that Davenport is in town, and after only ONE GAME, it is clear that Cowher wants to limit FWP's carries (perhaps around 20/game) and utilize other options at the goal line.

Does this still make FWP a top RB#2 in your opinion? In other words, do you think he still finishes in the top 15?

He was a top #2 before he got the goal-line carries. He was a mid to late RB1 when they announced the goal-line stuff.Why is it clear that FWP won't get the goalline carries?

Good question. Why are people jumping to this conclusion?

Seems to me that everyone thought Staley was perfect for this role when Bettis was hurt and he wasn't even good enough to be activated for most games. Let's let Davenport carry the ball a few times before he is crowned the goal-line guy. Let's examine this, who came to Pittsburgh with better credentials Staley or Davenport. And before anyone says that with Pittsburgh's O-Line Davenport is a shoe-in, better talk to a few Steeler fans. I think there line was better when Staley was brought in. Not by alot, but if Staley couldn't do it with that O-line, what makes you think Davenport can do it with this one?

Davenport has yet to have a carry with the Steelers and people are already anoiting him the goal-line back and one guy in the other thread was saying he was one injury away from being the starter!

Calm down. The jury is still our on who (if any) Steeler RB assumes the role of goal line back. Davenport has an opportunity, what he does with it is still yet to be determined...

He's preaching to the choir! I got FWP in 4 of 7 leagues and I'm not worried. In every case I drafted him he was under-rated.This post is edited to show that I live in the land of fellow Browns fans, so FWP is almost always under-rated.

 

[Blueb]

This year, FWP will be an RB1, not an RB2, in any league with more than 8 teams in it.

LJ, SA, LT2, Ronnie Brown, Tiki, SJax, Rudi and Portis will all probably have better numbers. FWP will be far better than Lamont Jordan, Cadillac, McGahee, Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, Westbrook and any other RB that may have been taken in the 2nd round of your draft.

 

[chris1969]

This year, FWP will be an RB1, not an RB2, in any league with more than 8 teams in it.LJ, SA, LT2, Ronnie Brown, Tiki, SJax, Rudi and Portis will all probably have better numbers. FWP will be far better than Lamont Jordan, Cadillac, McGahee, Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, Westbrook and any other RB that may have been taken in the 2nd round of your draft.

I agree with all of the above, except for Westbrook, I have no clue how well he'll do this year.

 

[Koya]

I'm looking at last years #'s, and he finished as RB #21 in my PPR league.

That is what I am saying if you picked him in the second round in a ppr league he isn't that valuable because the Steelers already use Verron Haynes as a 3rd down back hence he won't receive many receptions. The thing you might need to look at is the difference between RB 13 and RB24 for a 12 team league. If he isn't that many points behind a couple players then it is pretty much a wash and he is just as good as the next RB #2.

Well, let's put it this way. He finished 7pts behind Chris Brown. JJones, Caddy, Dunn, and McGahee weren't too far ahead (within 20pts). So...say he could easily have been #16. Upper half of RB 2's I guess.But then, you can do that for any player. So he could easily have been #28 going 20pts the other way.It all depends on the GL touches, because we know he's getting pulled on 3rd down. Either way, I think he's a solid #2 RB. Not like there are a ton of other better options out there that don't have other backs taking carries away, or catching tons of passes. Personally, I've got Foster/F.Taylor as my #2/#3 and I think Foster and/or Taylor could end up ahead of him at the end of the year.

To me it's real simple. If FWP got the goal line carries he is #1RB easy and if he's pulled at the GL he's still a solid #2 and maybe still a #1. He still has a few things going for him:1. The screen pass to him was something the Steelers starting using in the playoffs last year and appears to be much larger part of the offense this season. Getting the ball to him in the open field will be dangerous for opposing defenses and this helps him greatly in PPR leagues even with him coming out on third down. I think he's in line for a decent 40 catch season.2. He's simply better than last year and to me it's easy to see. His patience seems so much better. People forget how little he played in college so he both had a lot to learn and also build up his stamina which I believe he has done.3. He'll still score 8-10 TD's with no GL work.

It's not just getting the GL touches. He has to convert them as well. I simply see him as a RB#2, regardless of GL, unless he's in there on 3rd down as well. But that won't happen.Obviously people will disagree though, he was drafted at 1.11 in my 12 team PPR league, right after the news about the GL carries got out.

Please name the 12 RBs you have ahead of Willie Parker. TIA.

 

[stbugs]

I drafetd FWP as my RB#2 a week or so after Cowher told the media that Parker would be the 3rd down back and also have a chance to earn the GL carries. After the first game vs. MIA in which Parker had 29 carries, I thought I had a gem of a RB#2. Now that Davenport is in town, and after only ONE GAME, it is clear that Cowher wants to limit FWP's carries (perhaps around 20/game) and utilize other options at the goal line. Does this still make FWP a top RB#2 in your opinion? In other words, do you think he still finishes in the top 15?

Why is it clear that FWP won't get the goalline carries?

Why would he when he did not get them before Davenport?

Did you watch the game at all?He got a key 4th and 1 and converted. He also got a carry at the 7 yard line and gained 6 yards/almost scoring before the infamous fumble after Parker raised his hand for a breather or break.There were 5 offensive plays for the Steelers in the red zone. 2 passes (1 incomplete and 1 TD) and 3 runs of which Parker had 2 (6 yards each time) and Batch fumbled the handoff to Haynes. If Parker doesn't take a breather then he probably gets all 3 red zone rushes.I still don't understand the Najeh love. All I know for sure is that the Steelers like him more than Patrick Cobbs. Wow, that means he must be the perfect replacement for a HOF RB. Come on folks, be realistic. Yes, of course there is a chance that he becomes a 10 TD vulture, but let's not get him in the starting lineup when he couldn't even do that in Green Bay over Gado and Green both coming off bad injuries.

I'm sorry but raising your hand is not a clear sign he wanted breather and he could very well have been raising his hand as if to ask, "me"? Him getting the carry on 4th and 1 meant nothing as he has a chance to break that for a long run. Tiki also stays in the game when the Giants are inside the 10 but usually comes out when they get inside the 5. Say what you want but I did watch that game and no RB in the league asks out on the one yard line.

Well, since neither of us is Bill Cowher or Willie Parker, then we will have to disagree on that. You seem to be ignoring the fact that Parker had 7 carries, 1 reception and 1 incomplete on that drive including two previous 6 yard red zone rushes just before the fumble at the 1, has been known to need breaks because he doesn't breath when he runs, and at that point had 27 touches already. To me, I take that and the fact that he ran the 4th and 1 to give him the benefit of the doubt that he either needed a breather or a break. There are times that RBs pull themselves out of a play because they get dinged and then they go right back in after one play. He just ran 2 times inside the 13 which usually means getting tackled by more than one guy since the safeties aren't exactly playing deep.Anyway, he may have been taken out as you said and it might have been just a freshness thing, i.e. same situation in the 1st quarter and he wouldn't get pulled, or same situation except it was 5 passes that got them down to the 1 and he wouldn't get pulled.What I am trying to say is that it is silly conjecture to anoint the pooper as anything more than depth right now and just a guy making the roster instead of Patrick Cobbs. The people saying FWP is done at the goal line or that Davenport is the #2 already are just fantasizing at this point. It could happen, but methinks a team that has Super Bowl aspirations isn't going to immediately rely on any waiver wire fodder until they have proven themselves.

 

[mbuehner]

So now that its obvious Parker will be benched and Davenport will be taking direct snaps from center 30 times a game, should i just cut Willie?

 

[mbuehner]

Say what you want but I did watch that game and no RB in the league asks out on the one yard line.

I've seen Edge do it on more than one occasion.

 

[trogg78]

Is FWP going to have a tought matchup against the Jags D? I am thinking of playing matchups and platooning him with Gore.

 

[AB in DC]

Davenport couldn't beat out Noah Herron and Samkon Gado, and now he's a threat to Willie Parker?

This whole thread is a joke.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Davenport couldn't beat out Noah Herron and Samkon Gado, and now he's a threat to Willie Parker?This whole thread is a joke.

Mods please combine the davenport love fest threads and promtly delete them.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Is FWP going to have a tought matchup against the Jags D? I am thinking of playing matchups and platooning him with Gore.

i benched parker for gore. hope i am not biased by having jags d (on another team)