Is it ever OK to overturn a trade based on injury? (1 Viewer)

[Sack-Religious]

IMO, owners are responsible for doing their homework prior to offering, or accepting a deal. I generally have the "a card laid is a card played" philosophy.

I was contacted by 2 owners in my league who made a deal last night.

At 6:30 pm last night Team A offers: Peyton Manning, Cedric Benson and Steve Smith

Team B would give up: Derek Anderson, Larry Johnson and Greg Jennings

Team B accepts this trade offer around 10 pm last night.

Team A emails Team B (and me) this morning saying he wasn't aware of LJ's injury status and he wants the trade cancelled.

Considering he proposed the deal on a Tuesday, he really doesn't have a leg to stand on, does he?

FWIW - Team B has told me, privately, that if the other owner "babies it up" that I can cancel the trade, but that his preference would be for it to go through.

Thoughts?

 

[dagwood]

IMO, owners are responsible for doing their homework prior to offering, or accepting a deal. I generally have the "a card laid is a card played" philosophy.I was contacted by 2 owners in my league who made a deal last night.At 6:30 pm last night Team A offers: Peyton Manning, Cedric Benson and Steve SmithTeam B would give up: Derek Anderson, Larry Johnson and Greg JenningsTeam B accepts this trade offer around 10 pm last night.Team A emails Team B (and me) this morning saying he wasn't aware of LJ's injury status and he wants the trade cancelled.Considering he proposed the deal on a Tuesday, he really doesn't have a leg to stand on, does he? FWIW - Team B has told me, privately, that if the other owner "babies it up" that I can cancel the trade, but that his preference would be for it to go through.Thoughts?

Wow...member number 4....

 

[jaana1us]

it should be cancelled since its not fair trade if lj is out-the other owners should complain-

 

[dagwood]

IMO, owners are responsible for doing their homework prior to offering, or accepting a deal. I generally have the "a card laid is a card played" philosophy.I was contacted by 2 owners in my league who made a deal last night.At 6:30 pm last night Team A offers: Peyton Manning, Cedric Benson and Steve SmithTeam B would give up: Derek Anderson, Larry Johnson and Greg JenningsTeam B accepts this trade offer around 10 pm last night.Team A emails Team B (and me) this morning saying he wasn't aware of LJ's injury status and he wants the trade cancelled.Considering he proposed the deal on a Tuesday, he really doesn't have a leg to stand on, does he? FWIW - Team B has told me, privately, that if the other owner "babies it up" that I can cancel the trade, but that his preference would be for it to go through.Thoughts?

But to your question...thats a slippery slope you really don't want to go down...trade should stand...

 

[SigEp316]

it should be cancelled since its not fair trade if lj is out-the other owners should complain-

that's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

 

[HF21]

I'd let it stand. If he proposed the trade yesterday (tuesday), then he should have noticed that LJ was injured.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I think if the injury happened after the trade, then the trade is valid.

I think if the trade happened after the injury and the owner was trying to take advantage of poor owner, then I don't think the trade is valid.

What really should happen and it depends on how your league handles "lopsided" trades is the other owners should get a chance to vote the trade down.

 

[Robbie Cooper]

Stands.

Tell the whining boy to quit his whining and do his due diligence next time. Your job as commish is not to protect others from their own inherent stupidity.

 

[wudaben]

To me collusion is the only acceptable reason to veto a trade. Owner B should have paid attention since the news has been everywhere since Sunday.

With that said...I have LJ and wouldn't have offered up trades until I had some sort of definitive answer regarding his situation to avoid this type of thing.

 

[Warhogs]

Whew. The LJ news was not super secret AND he offered the trade!

I would think I would have to let this trade go through. Shame on that owner for not researching things before offering that trade.

 

[Da Guru]

IMO, owners are responsible for doing their homework prior to offering, or accepting a deal. I generally have the "a card laid is a card played" philosophy.

I was contacted by 2 owners in my league who made a deal last night.

At 6:30 pm last night Team A offers: Peyton Manning, Cedric Benson and Steve Smith

Team B would give up: Derek Anderson, Larry Johnson and Greg Jennings

Team B accepts this trade offer around 10 pm last night.

Team A emails Team B (and me) this morning saying he wasn't aware of LJ's injury status and he wants the trade cancelled.

Considering he proposed the deal on a Tuesday, he really doesn't have a leg to stand on, does he?

FWIW - Team B has told me, privately, that if the other owner "babies it up" that I can cancel the trade, but that his preference would be for it to go through.

Thoughts?

My league has been together a long time.#1 When you offer or accept a deal make sure you have done your homework.

Once a deal is accepted by both parties it is a done deal.

This deal was done on Tuesday night? The guy has only himself to blame. In our league this would never even go to the commish.

 

[One]

IMO, owners are responsible for doing their homework prior to offering, or accepting a deal. I generally have the "a card laid is a card played" philosophy.I was contacted by 2 owners in my league who made a deal last night.At 6:30 pm last night Team A offers: Peyton Manning, Cedric Benson and Steve SmithTeam B would give up: Derek Anderson, Larry Johnson and Greg JenningsTeam B accepts this trade offer around 10 pm last night.Team A emails Team B (and me) this morning saying he wasn't aware of LJ's injury status and he wants the trade cancelled.Considering he proposed the deal on a Tuesday, he really doesn't have a leg to stand on, does he? FWIW - Team B has told me, privately, that if the other owner "babies it up" that I can cancel the trade, but that his preference would be for it to go through.Thoughts?

Was the trade put through or under review/vote?I'd reverse the trade since both sides agree to nullify ...if it's still under review. If it's already officially put through then no dice. They can agree to make another trade back. This isn't your problem.

 

[BelichicksRevenge]

I would be pi$$ed if I was another owner. I would make sure the dumb owner was not invited back next year. Who doesn't check up on players before acquiring them?

 

[Ace Matherton]

People should be responsible for what they accept, you DONT accept a trade without knowing ALL the health status' of the players involved.

 

[Warpig]

I say the trade goes through.

And when team A decides to quit, I'll take his place.

 

[jaana1us]

a lopsided trade hurts others not just the teams involved-? how much money is involved-the other owners should reject it takes away from your league

 

[Max Power]

I have never been a fan of the whole doing your homework line. An owner who knows about this site can come on and usually get the most up to date info without even trying. Owners who rely on the more mainstream sites CBS, ESPN, SI, ect... dont get the *Unconfirmed* reports.

However this case is slightly different. No one knows what the deal with LJ is. So owner A obviously didnt even read the mainstream reports. Therefor He cant claim any information that just came out is why he wants to cancel the trade.

Im never one to say your SOL to an owner, so you should put it to a league vote.

 

[The Shizzle]

IMO, owners are responsible for doing their homework prior to offering, or accepting a deal. I generally have the "a card laid is a card played" philosophy.I was contacted by 2 owners in my league who made a deal last night.At 6:30 pm last night Team A offers: Peyton Manning, Cedric Benson and Steve SmithTeam B would give up: Derek Anderson, Larry Johnson and Greg JenningsTeam B accepts this trade offer around 10 pm last night.Team A emails Team B (and me) this morning saying he wasn't aware of LJ's injury status and he wants the trade cancelled.Considering he proposed the deal on a Tuesday, he really doesn't have a leg to stand on, does he? FWIW - Team B has told me, privately, that if the other owner "babies it up" that I can cancel the trade, but that his preference would be for it to go through.Thoughts?

Wow...member number 4....

And not Admin?

 

[JimboJim]

I think the question is a little more complicated... how does your league handle trades? Do the owners just have to email the commish or do they have to propose/accept online.

We had an issue in my league earlier this year where two owners verbally agreed to a deal on Monday when CBSSportline was locked. Tuesday morning, one of the owners backed out based on an injury that occured during the Monday night game.

The owner who backed out said it was never official because it had never been formally proposed/accepted on the site. The other owner was livid saying that a deal was a deal and it should stand.

As commish, I ruled that based on our league charter, the trade had never occured because it hadn't been processed on the website, and even though the owner who backed might have pulled a tool move, he still had the right to at that point in time.

 

[shadyridr]

trade clearly goes thru since LJ got hurt on Sunday.

 

[Sack-Religious]

I think the question is a little more complicated... how does your league handle trades? Do the owners just have to email the commish or do they have to propose/accept online.We had an issue in my league earlier this year where two owners verbally agreed to a deal on Monday when CBSSportline was locked. Tuesday morning, one of the owners backed out based on an injury that occured during the Monday night game.The owner who backed out said it was never official because it had never been formally proposed/accepted on the site. The other owner was livid saying that a deal was a deal and it should stand.As commish, I ruled that based on our league charter, the trade had never occured because it hadn't been processed on the website, and even though the owner who backed might have pulled a tool move, he still had the right to at that point in time.

Trades are proposed and accepted on-line at our league hosting site, AOL. AOL is usually pretty on top of injury reporting.We've got a rule that unless a trade is collusive, all trades go through. However, once a trade is accepted it does have to go through "final approval" by the commissioner. That being said, once a trade has been accepted, an email goes out to the entire league advising them of which teams traded which players.That's the current status of the trade. From work, I don't have access to the league site, or my home email so I don't know if other owners have said anything about it.

 

[mad sweeney]

it should be cancelled since its not fair trade if lj is out-the other owners should complain-

Worst post everDo your homework before you hit accept. He got hurt on Sunday, if you can't check up on him you get screwed. If it was me and got overturned I'd quit the league.

 

[KellysHeroes]

trade clearly goes thru since LJ got hurt on Sunday.

Yeap... I have to agree; LJ got hurt in the game; I generally don't like to makes these type of offers how to I hear about a players status or if they practiced. Because that team didn't take 30 secs to check up on LJ; thats season is crushed.They will learn from this and become a better FF player.

 

[JimboJim]

Trades are proposed and accepted on-line at our league hosting site, AOL. AOL is usually pretty on top of injury reporting.We've got a rule that unless a trade is collusive, all trades go through. However, once a trade is accepted it does have to go through "final approval" by the commissioner. That being said, once a trade has been accepted, an email goes out to the entire league advising them of which teams traded which players.That's the current status of the trade. From work, I don't have access to the league site, or my home email so I don't know if other owners have said anything about it.

If the trade has been accepted by both owners online, I would process it as is and inform the league that policy states once a trade has been processed in AOL by both owners, as comissioneer, the only time you can overturn a trade is if it is blatant collusion.

 

[Sack-Religious]

IMO, owners are responsible for doing their homework prior to offering, or accepting a deal. I generally have the "a card laid is a card played" philosophy.I was contacted by 2 owners in my league who made a deal last night.At 6:30 pm last night Team A offers: Peyton Manning, Cedric Benson and Steve SmithTeam B would give up: Derek Anderson, Larry Johnson and Greg JenningsTeam B accepts this trade offer around 10 pm last night.Team A emails Team B (and me) this morning saying he wasn't aware of LJ's injury status and he wants the trade cancelled.Considering he proposed the deal on a Tuesday, he really doesn't have a leg to stand on, does he? FWIW - Team B has told me, privately, that if the other owner "babies it up" that I can cancel the trade, but that his preference would be for it to go through.Thoughts?

Wow...member number 4....

And not Admin? :(

A staff member (Bob Henry, IRRC) put his member number up for "auction," with the proceeds going to Parkinson's research (hence my sig). FBG's set up a PayPal account and everyone who wanted in could pledge $5 for a roll ofa 1000 sided dice. My number happened to come up and this is how I got #4. SofaKinds got #5 the same way.

 

[MarcO]

Stands.

Tell the whining boy to quit his whining and do his due diligence next time. Your job as commish is not to protect others from their own inherent stupidity.

normally I would agree with this philosophy but I think this case merits closer attention. While you cannot protect others from their own stupidity - you are responsible for protecting the integrity of the league. I guess I have a problem with knowingly putting the injured player on the block and hoping someone hasn't heard the news yet. To take it to an extreme - he offers LJ and say Philip Rivers for Tom Brady and Priest Holmes - without knowledge of the injury this could be a feasable trade - with knowledge of the injury it becomes so one sided that threatens the league. In your mind the trade stands - end of story. If I was an owner in this league I would be upset enough to not come back. That is where the commissioner's responisibility comes in to protect the league.

I'd suggest holding up this trade until definitive news of the injury to Larry Johnson.

 

[Nate]

This trade should absolutely stand! Are people forgetting that LJ was injured SUNDAY, not Tuesday night. You deal for an injured player before knowing the extent, that's the risk you take.

 

[Godsbrother]

What really should happen and it depends on how your league handles "lopsided" trades is the other owners should get a chance to vote the trade down.

No, No, NO!!! Leagues that allow other owners to vote on trades suck.

By the way, the trade should stay. LJ was hurt on Sunday and it was pretty big news. Too bad for the uy that didn't do his homework.

 

[Krewe]

Incredble thread. In that--- I can't believe some would consider nixing the deal.

This one has to stand.

If owner A cries, and since he doesnt check injury reports, tell him that Steve Smith is now a question mark so

that makes it a wash, of sorts.

No brainer for commish.

Next.

 

[Sack-Religious]

Stands.

Tell the whining boy to quit his whining and do his due diligence next time. Your job as commish is not to protect others from their own inherent stupidity.

normally I would agree with this philosophy but I think this case merits closer attention. While you cannot protect others from their own stupidity - you are responsible for protecting the integrity of the league. I guess I have a problem with knowingly putting the injured player on the block and hoping someone hasn't heard the news yet. To take it to an extreme - he offers LJ and say Philip Rivers for Tom Brady and Priest Holmes - without knowledge of the injury this could be a feasable trade - with knowledge of the injury it becomes so one sided that threatens the league. In your mind the trade stands - end of story. If I was an owner in this league I would be upset enough to not come back. That is where the commissioner's responisibility comes in to protect the league.

I'd suggest holding up this trade until definitive news of the injury to Larry Johnson.

One thing to note is that the LJ owner DID NOT put LJ on the trading block, hoping to find a partner who hadn't heard the news.The other owner, offered a trade to acquire LJ.

The idea of holding the trade until detailed information comes out is appealing and might appease both owners and any potential flack from other owners.

If LJ does not go on IR, the trade goes through.

If LJ goes on IR, the trade is nullified.

I guess another question is in regards to the ethics of Team B in this situation. Does he bear any responsibility for this? Should he have contacted Team A and asked if he knew about LJ's injury situation? Personally, I would have contacted the other team, but I don't expect all owners to do the same and I can't dictate how they act.

 

[Max Power]

ok, tackle this angle. (sorry bout the hijack)

Say a FBG posts info from an inside source that a player has a season ending injury but the team wont be announcing it for 24. Nothing happend in a game, and this injury was like that Rookies player who disloacted his shoulder taking groceries up stairs.

Owner A, who has the player unloads him for slightly under face value. Owner B, thinks he is getting a good deal. No other info is out there other than the FBG inside source.

Should that trade stand?

 

[cartel]

a lopsided trade hurts others not just the teams involved-? how much money is involved-the other owners should reject it takes away from your league

Reversing trades made and accaepted in good faith also hurts the league. Unless there is collusion NEVER reverse a trade. Just had an owner in my dynasty league get R Bush for ALexander a late first rounder. Yea I think it is BS but I sure do not want others reversing trades I make because they do not agree with it.

 

[SuperJohn96]

IMO, owners are responsible for doing their homework prior to offering, or accepting a deal. I generally have the "a card laid is a card played" philosophy.I was contacted by 2 owners in my league who made a deal last night.At 6:30 pm last night Team A offers: Peyton Manning, Cedric Benson and Steve SmithTeam B would give up: Derek Anderson, Larry Johnson and Greg JenningsTeam B accepts this trade offer around 10 pm last night.Team A emails Team B (and me) this morning saying he wasn't aware of LJ's injury status and he wants the trade cancelled.Considering he proposed the deal on a Tuesday, he really doesn't have a leg to stand on, does he? FWIW - Team B has told me, privately, that if the other owner "babies it up" that I can cancel the trade, but that his preference would be for it to go through.Thoughts?

Wow...member number 4....

He used to be member #389 but with he's Canadian and improved with the strength of our dollar.In a couple weeks he'll be member #1.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

What cave was owner A living in that he didnt hear about LJ? Being that owner A instigated the trade, it stands.

 

[2and2is5]

ok, tackle this angle. (sorry bout the hijack)Say a FBG posts info from an inside source that a player has a season ending injury but the team wont be announcing it for 24. Nothing happend in a game, and this injury was like that Rookies player who disloacted his shoulder taking groceries up stairs.Owner A, who has the player unloads him for slightly under face value. Owner B, thinks he is getting a good deal. No other info is out there other than the FBG inside source.Should that trade stand?

to end the hijack, no i think FBG insider info is fair game, it's all part of fantasy football, i dumped lamont jordan off cheaper than usual knowing he is either getting cut or not starting anymore...pick up a quick #2-3 WR for him and be outto answer OP question, trades gotta stand, plus an injured LJ is about as valuable as benson anyway so in the end it's a wash anywayi dont really like your wait to hear news idea...

 

[mad sweeney]

Stands.

Tell the whining boy to quit his whining and do his due diligence next time. Your job as commish is not to protect others from their own inherent stupidity.

normally I would agree with this philosophy but I think this case merits closer attention. While you cannot protect others from their own stupidity - you are responsible for protecting the integrity of the league. I guess I have a problem with knowingly putting the injured player on the block and hoping someone hasn't heard the news yet. To take it to an extreme - he offers LJ and say Philip Rivers for Tom Brady and Priest Holmes - without knowledge of the injury this could be a feasable trade - with knowledge of the injury it becomes so one sided that threatens the league. In your mind the trade stands - end of story. If I was an owner in this league I would be upset enough to not come back. That is where the commissioner's responisibility comes in to protect the league.

I'd suggest holding up this trade until definitive news of the injury to Larry Johnson.

One thing to note is that the LJ owner DID NOT put LJ on the trading block, hoping to find a partner who hadn't heard the news.The other owner, offered a trade to acquire LJ.

The idea of holding the trade until detailed information comes out is appealing and might appease both owners and any potential flack from other owners.

If LJ does not go on IR, the trade goes through.

If LJ goes on IR, the trade is nullified.

I guess another question is in regards to the ethics of Team B in this situation. Does he bear any responsibility for this? Should he have contacted Team A and asked if he knew about LJ's injury situation? Personally, I would have contacted the other team, but I don't expect all owners to do the same and I can't dictate how they act.

SLAM DUNK!! This shouldn't even be in question if team B sought out LJ. Shouldn't be either way but in this case B has absolutely zero leverage to complain at all. It wasn't a secret injury, it's all over the news and he went after him. You might have a few owners that are a little upset at how the trade strengthens one team but that's too bad, they'll get over it.

 

[TeddyKGB]

ok, tackle this angle. (sorry bout the hijack)Say a FBG posts info from an inside source that a player has a season ending injury but the team wont be announcing it for 24. Nothing happend in a game, and this injury was like that Rookies player who disloacted his shoulder taking groceries up stairs.Owner A, who has the player unloads him for slightly under face value. Owner B, thinks he is getting a good deal. No other info is out there other than the FBG inside source.Should that trade stand?

Absolutely. Maybe Owner B should stop being cheap and subscribe to FBG.

 

[Jersey35]

As commish in my league, I would think about this a little bit, ask a my assistant commish what they think, and then ultimately let this trade go through, stating that the only fair way is to the let the trade stand.

1) LJ's injury was widely publicized

2) Team B made the offer for cripes sake

3) If you nix this deal, you start down a slippery slope where foolish owners who are unhappy with their trades can now complain to you to get them reversed. Particularly bad in this case, since most evidence points to a VERY foolish move by owner B. You're setting a precedent that from now on YOU will be responsible for the homework and research that your owners should be doing.

It's gotta stand.

 

[MarcO]

Stands.

Tell the whining boy to quit his whining and do his due diligence next time. Your job as commish is not to protect others from their own inherent stupidity.

normally I would agree with this philosophy but I think this case merits closer attention. While you cannot protect others from their own stupidity - you are responsible for protecting the integrity of the league. I guess I have a problem with knowingly putting the injured player on the block and hoping someone hasn't heard the news yet. To take it to an extreme - he offers LJ and say Philip Rivers for Tom Brady and Priest Holmes - without knowledge of the injury this could be a feasable trade - with knowledge of the injury it becomes so one sided that threatens the league. In your mind the trade stands - end of story. If I was an owner in this league I would be upset enough to not come back. That is where the commissioner's responisibility comes in to protect the league.

I'd suggest holding up this trade until definitive news of the injury to Larry Johnson.

One thing to note is that the LJ owner DID NOT put LJ on the trading block, hoping to find a partner who hadn't heard the news.The other owner, offered a trade to acquire LJ.

The idea of holding the trade until detailed information comes out is appealing and might appease both owners and any potential flack from other owners.

If LJ does not go on IR, the trade goes through.

If LJ goes on IR, the trade is nullified.

I guess another question is in regards to the ethics of Team B in this situation. Does he bear any responsibility for this? Should he have contacted Team A and asked if he knew about LJ's injury situation? Personally, I would have contacted the other team, but I don't expect all owners to do the same and I can't dictate how they act.

in that case, I don't see how you could not let the trade stand and the owner really has no basis for complaining. If your league has some kind of "fair trade" agreement or committee it could be a case for that, but as a commish I don't think you get involved.

 

[yellowdog]

Some of you aren't paying attention. The team that got LJ was the one that offered the deal. The commish's job is not to protect the league from stupid owners. He should veto trades of collusion only. The trade should stand.

 

[Utter Chaos]

As commish in my league, I would think about this a little bit, ask a my assistant commish what they think, and then ultimately let this trade go through, stating that the only fair way is to the let the trade stand.

1) LJ's injury was widely publicized

2) Team B made the offer for cripes sake

3) If you nix this deal, you start down a slippery slope where foolish owners who are unhappy with their trades can now complain to you to get them reversed. Particularly bad in this case, since most evidence points to a VERY foolish move by owner B. You're setting a precedent that from now on YOU will be responsible for the homework and research that your owners should be doing.

It's gotta stand.

It was Team A that made the offer, not Team B

 

[md8]

I think the trade should definatly stand. The only way i'd see overturning it is if team A had proposed the trade before sundays game, then after LJs injury, team B accepted it.

Someone did that in one league a few years ago, 10 mins after Culpepper injured his knee.

 

[pats3in4]

As commish in my league, I would think about this a little bit, ask a my assistant commish what they think, and then ultimately let this trade go through, stating that the only fair way is to the let the trade stand.

1) LJ's injury was widely publicized

2) Team B made the offer for cripes sake

3) If you nix this deal, you start down a slippery slope where foolish owners who are unhappy with their trades can now complain to you to get them reversed. Particularly bad in this case, since most evidence points to a VERY foolish move by owner B. You're setting a precedent that from now on YOU will be responsible for the homework and research that your owners should be doing.

It's gotta stand.

It was Team A that made the offer, not Team B

Repeating for emphasis:It was Team A that made the offer, not Team B

Team A can't whine about LJ...he made the offer for him on Tuesday.

 

[The Rook]

It should stand.

Besides, it's not that lopsided of a deal even with the injury. you could argue that peyton manning and derek anderson are a wash this year. Giving up Benson to get an injured Larry Johnson isn't that big of a change (LJ could still be back late this year depending on if the out for the season rumors are true). Is this a redraft league?

And I'm not sure I wouldn't rather have Greg Jennings down the stretch instead of Steve Smith anyway.

 

[Pnishthm]

a lopsided trade hurts others not just the teams involved-? how much money is involved-the other owners should reject it takes away from your league

Actually, if you don't look at the names and just on how these guys have played this season, is it that unfair of a trade even with LJ out? D. Anderson is outscoring Manning by 14 pts in my CBS league, C. Benson is almost worthless (as would LJ) and Jennings has scored TDs in 5 straight games while S. Smith has about that many catches in his last 5 with Carr at QB. Add to that D. Anderson playing Jets, Bill, Bungles in most teams playoff weeks and this trade still looks ok to me.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Agree with all the people saying to let it stand. It should stand regardless, but the fact that the guy who initially offered the trade is the one whining makes it even more ridiculous.

 

[Black]

Player doesn't watch football on Sundays or have access to a TV, internet, radio, newspaper?

I'd say it sticks.

If the team that traded LJ posed the trade Sunday afternoon right after learning that LJ was hobbled, that kind of sucks, but seems that the trade should stand.

 

[Sweeper]

IMO, owners are responsible for doing their homework prior to offering, or accepting a deal. I generally have the "a card laid is a card played" philosophy.I was contacted by 2 owners in my league who made a deal last night.At 6:30 pm last night Team A offers: Peyton Manning, Cedric Benson and Steve SmithTeam B would give up: Derek Anderson, Larry Johnson and Greg JenningsTeam B accepts this trade offer around 10 pm last night.Team A emails Team B (and me) this morning saying he wasn't aware of LJ's injury status and he wants the trade cancelled.Considering he proposed the deal on a Tuesday, he really doesn't have a leg to stand on, does he? FWIW - Team B has told me, privately, that if the other owner "babies it up" that I can cancel the trade, but that his preference would be for it to go through.Thoughts?

Wow...member number 4....

This guy must know his ####. He should be giving advice, not asking for it.

 

[Pipes]

It should stand.Besides, it's not that lopsided of a deal even with the injury. you could argue that peyton manning and derek anderson are a wash this year. Giving up Benson to get an injured Larry Johnson isn't that big of a change (LJ could still be back late this year depending on if the out for the season rumors are true). Is this a redraft league? And I'm not sure I wouldn't rather have Greg Jennings down the stretch instead of Steve Smith anyway.

If someone offered me Jennings for Smith I'd take it in a heartbeat.

 

[faulkfan]

it should be cancelled since its not fair trade if lj is out-the other owners should complain-

I would need some more reasoning behind this to begin to even fathom what you are saying.