Is Kurt Warner the starter next season? (1 Viewer)

[Da Guru]

Warner has played pretty good the last 6-7 weeks with torn ligements in his elbow and thumb.

It is obvious that the Cards are more effective of offense with him in the lineup. Does Warner come into next season the starter?

Fitz and Boldin for the most part were useless with Leinart starting. They would have to be downgraded if Leinart is named the started again.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Last on the Audible, we discussed this very topic.

My take: There should at least be an open competition, if not Warner entering camp as the incumbent. If Leinart can't win the job in camp, then the struggle will be character-building (and presumably they would be playing the better QB, Warner, after over a month of looking at them side by side), and if the demotion crushes him, then he was never meant to be your franchise QB anyway. Meanwhile, if Warner had started from week 1 on this year, we'd probably be talking the Cards going to the playoffs.

 

[FUBAR]

No chance. Arizona brought in the kid from USC to be the franchise, they won't be using the 50 year old bagger any longer than they have to.

Hope you took advantage of the situation, but it will not continue.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

No chance. Arizona brought in the kid from USC to be the franchise, they won't be using the 50 year old bagger any longer than they have to.

Whisenhunt didnt seem to respect that logic when he benched Leinart for parts of games earlier this year. Leinart has to bring the work habits and professionalism demanded of a starter, or he won't start, I think that has been established.

 

[bcr8f]

Last on the Audible, we discussed this very topic. My take: There should at least be an open competition, if not Warner entering camp as the incumbent. If Leinart can't win the job in camp, then the struggle will be character-building (and presumably they would be playing the better QB, Warner, after over a month of looking at them side by side), and if the demotion crushes him, then he was never meant to be your franchise QB anyway. Meanwhile, if Warner had started from week 1 on this year, we'd probably be talking the Cards going to the playoffs.

I agree completely. Let Leinart sit and learn if he can't win the job outright.

 

[bcr8f]

No chance. Arizona brought in the kid from USC to be the franchise, they won't be using the 50 year old bagger any longer than they have to.Hope you took advantage of the situation, but it will not continue.

REALLY. How did that thinking work in Chicago when they kept Benson over TJ?

 

[saintsfan]

No chance. Arizona brought in the kid from USC to be the franchise, they won't be using the 50 year old bagger any longer than they have to.Hope you took advantage of the situation, but it will not continue.

If it doesn't continue, it should not continue because Leinart takes the job from Warner, not because Leinart has been labled "the franchise." If Leinart really is your franchise, he will respond well to this and come out blazing next season and leave Warner in the dust. If he doesn't respond like this, he's not your franchise QB.See the Matt Hasselbeck and Trent Dilfer situation for a similar circumstance. Hass was thrown out there because he was the chosen one and he failed. Sitting and watching Trent Dilfer do it energized Hass and he hasn't looked back since.

 

[KellysHeroes]

No chance. Arizona brought in the kid from USC to be the franchise, they won't be using the 50 year old bagger any longer than they have to.

Whisenhunt didnt seem to respect that logic when he benched Leinart for parts of games earlier this year. Leinart has to bring the work habits and professionalism demanded of a starter, or he won't start, I think that has been established.

Leinart isn't Whisenhunts pick... hes owes nothing to Matt. Warner looked finished when Denny Green was the coach, but this yr the table turned and Warner revived the offense. Warner will be in his final yr of his deal, set to earn $4 Million... if zona has no intention of allowing him to atleast compete w/ Lienart; they should cut him. Even if Lienart outright beats him in camp, then they should let Warner go... $4 Million is a ton for a guy past mid 30s and on the Bench.

 

[bcr8f]

No chance. Arizona brought in the kid from USC to be the franchise, they won't be using the 50 year old bagger any longer than they have to.

Hope you took advantage of the situation, but it will not continue.

If it doesn't continue, it should not continue because Leinart takes the job from Warner, not because Leinart has been labled "the franchise." If Leinart really is your franchise, he will respond well to this and come out blazing next season and leave Warner in the dust. If he doesn't respond like this, he's not your franchise QB.

See the Matt Hasselbeck and Trent Dilfer situation for a similar circumstance. Hass was thrown out there because he was the chosen one and he failed. Sitting and watching Trent Dilfer do it energized Hass and he hasn't looked back since.

Absolutely. If he wins the job he is ready to be the #1. If he doesn't he'll have more work to do.

 

[KellysHeroes]

No chance. Arizona brought in the kid from USC to be the franchise, they won't be using the 50 year old bagger any longer than they have to.

Hope you took advantage of the situation, but it will not continue.

REALLY. How did that thinking work in Chicago when they kept Benson over TJ?

This happens way too much in football... Management get a little to pig headed and refuse to admit that their draft choice has failed... even at the point where they just force the job to a kid that is clearly not ready.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

I've been thinking about this since I have Warner in my dynasty league. I'm holding him for now and will see what happens. Lienart was so lost prior to getting injured...I'm not ready to call him a bust yet, but he may be one of those guys who needs extra time learning to 'get it'. I could see Warner being the starter next year with Lienart coming in at times for more learning.

 

[Homer]

Has anybody noticed that Kurt Warner has been a pretty bad real-life NFL QB this year? Sure, he can move the team down the field well, but fumbles and interceptions make it a zero-sum game. Mistake free football would have that team playing MUCH better.

BTW, though, MAJOR kudos to Warner for playing with that injury. It must be agonizingly painful. But he hasn't been any better in YEARS even without injuries, so not sure what people would expect for next year.

Kurt Warner is not going to take an NFL team anywhere, and I'm sure the Cardinals know that already.

 

[[scooter]]

Has anybody noticed that Kurt Warner has been a pretty bad real-life NFL QB this year? Sure, he can move the team down the field well, but fumbles and interceptions make it a zero-sum game. Mistake free football would have that team playing MUCH better.

Because if there's any phrase that's closely associated with the Arizona Cardinals, it's "mistake free football".

 

[Tom Cody]

The talk on local AZ radio is that Whisenhunt just doesn't trust young QBs(read some of Big Bens comments on last years problems with the Steeler offense). He doesn't allow any audibles or give a young QB the chance to free lance at all. That's why early in the year Warner was coming in for the 2 minute offense because Whisenhunt didn't think Leinart could run the offense quickly enough. That being said, the local opinion seems to be that Leinart will open camp as the starter and Warner would have to beat him out for the job. Also, the fear is that if they don't take the reins off of Leinart and let him run the entire offense then it could cause a rift between coach and QB that can't be fixed.

 

[LHUCKS]

No

 

[Kiddnets]

Picked up Leinart off the WW for this exact reason - after spending a high 1st and a ton of cash on him there is no way it isn't at least an open competition next year with Leinart getting every benefit of the doubt. You would think that this year was a humiliating experience for Hollywood Matt - splitting series with old man Warner before being knocked out and watching the team respond to another QB..

Its now or never for Leinart - I think he has too much talent to completely bust which is what he would be if he is not starting next year - he has weapons and a good situation if he can get the coaches to trust him - that will have to be done on the field - its a huge offseason for Arizona!

 

[[scooter]]

The talk on local AZ radio is that Whisenhunt just doesn't trust young QBs(read some of Big Bens comments on last years problems with the Steeler offense). He doesn't allow any audibles or give a young QB the chance to free lance at all. That's why early in the year Warner was coming in for the 2 minute offense because Whisenhunt didn't think Leinart could run the offense quickly enough. That being said, the local opinion seems to be that Leinart will open camp as the starter and Warner would have to beat him out for the job. Also, the fear is that if they don't take the reins off of Leinart and let him run the entire offense then it could cause a rift between coach and QB that can't be fixed.

So, there are people in this country who are actually thinking about giving a quarterback more playing time so that his feelings won't get hurt?

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Leinart did not play well enough to enter next season as the undisputed starter. Warner clearly outplayed him.

 

[Pai Mei]

and if the demotion crushes him, then he was never meant to be your franchise QB anyway.

Hahahaha. That's a terrible way to manage players. Your job as a coach or as talent development is to understand that all players have strengths and weaknesses, to then figure out your players' strengths, and then put them into a position to win. Your job is NOT to break their spirit, to think about ways to to discourage them, to make them think they suck. You'd be fired in a second if I was running a team and you said that.Let me tell you something else. Good players don't go to the Patriots and turn into crappy players only to be reclaimed elsewhere. Its the other way around. Players that everyone thinks are a bust go to the Pats and become great, like Randy Moss, because Belichick isn't focusing on why the player sucks, he's focusing on taking the talent on-hand and putting it in the best possible position to win.

 

[[scooter]]

and if the demotion crushes him, then he was never meant to be your franchise QB anyway.

Hahahaha. That's a terrible way to manage players. Your job as a coach or as talent development is to understand that all players have strengths and weaknesses, to then figure out your players' strengths, and then put them into a position to win. Your job is NOT to break their spirit, to think about ways to to discourage them, to make them think they suck.

Huge difference between "breaking their spirit" and "having an open competition for the starting job".If Leinart's "spirit" is "broken" simply because he actually has to compete for a starting job then he truly was never meant to be a franchise QB.

 

[Todem]

Fact of the matter is the only thing that has held back Warner the past few years was health. We are talking about a QB who was a league and Super Bowl MVP. He obviously has his mojo back.

He is the Cards starter as long as he continues to light it up and stay healthy. What the heck has Matt Leinart done in this league thus far?

 

[Bri]

Last on the Audible, we discussed this very topic. My take: There should at least be an open competition, if not Warner entering camp as the incumbent. If Leinart can't win the job in camp, then the struggle will be character-building (and presumably they would be playing the better QB, Warner, after over a month of looking at them side by side), and if the demotion crushes him, then he was never meant to be your franchise QB anyway. Meanwhile, if Warner had started from week 1 on this year, we'd probably be talking the Cards going to the playoffs.

I agree with thisMaybe a trade offer to hard to resist comes up but otherwise this is how I think they should roll. It would be good for Whis to say so soon so Leinart can get that motivation going already. He clearly needs to raise his game. It's very likely he will never have as good WRs as he has this early on in his career and I'm sure every NFL GM knows that. When he's a FA....

 

[Homer]

Re: Warner "lighting it up" and "clearly outplaying" Leinart, why isn't that reflected in the team's record? What I SAW was Warner mistakes shooting his team in the foot, and then being forced to sling the ball all over the field to try to stay in the game. Good for fantasy owners (in leagues that don't count fumbles, anyway), bad for people whose jobs depend on Arizona WINNING.

 

[slayer666]

Does Warner come into next season the starter?

No.The team was 4-6 with Warner as the starter and he turned the ball over 19 times in those 10 games.

 

[Liquid Tension]

No chance. Arizona brought in the kid from USC to be the franchise, they won't be using the 50 year old bagger any longer than they have to.Hope you took advantage of the situation, but it will not continue.

REALLY. How did that thinking work in Chicago when they kept Benson over TJ?

I know it is real easy to rag on Benson, but keeping TJ would have been a horrible GM job. TJ is a below average RB in teh NFL. TJ's YPC was 3.58 with 1 TD this year while Bensons was an also weak 3.44 with 4 TD's. Benson was better than his backup which is not something TJ can say. Maybe TJ is SLIGHTLY better than Benson, but I think Benson is getting a raw deal because that OL and QB play was awful

 

[Traders2001]

No chance. Arizona brought in the kid from USC to be the franchise, they won't be using the 50 year old bagger any longer than they have to.Hope you took advantage of the situation, but it will not continue.

Except that the 50 years old bagger is a much better QB then the kid from USC . Leinart in his first two years played poorly ( Very poorly ) It s not because he waschosen in the first round that he will become a star , the Cards made a mistake by selecting him ( He will be a bust like a Ryan Leaf ). Its ok those things happen they just have to put this mistake behind and look ahead , Warner gives them the best chance to win no doubt .

 

[Traders2001]

Has anybody noticed that Kurt Warner has been a pretty bad real-life NFL QB this year? Sure, he can move the team down the field well, but fumbles and interceptions make it a zero-sum game. Mistake free football would have that team playing MUCH better.BTW, though, MAJOR kudos to Warner for playing with that injury. It must be agonizingly painful. But he hasn't been any better in YEARS even without injuries, so not sure what people would expect for next year.Kurt Warner is not going to take an NFL team anywhere, and I'm sure the Cardinals know that already.

So is Leinart and the Crads know that also .

 

[Traders2001]

Re: Warner "lighting it up" and "clearly outplaying" Leinart, why isn't that reflected in the team's record? What I SAW was Warner mistakes shooting his team in the foot, and then being forced to sling the ball all over the field to try to stay in the game. Good for fantasy owners (in leagues that don't count fumbles, anyway), bad for people whose jobs depend on Arizona WINNING.

Cause they have zero defense and the running game lacks a big play guy ( Edge is ok but he wont make a difference in a game anymore ).

 

[Gopher State]

Last on the Audible, we discussed this very topic. My take: There should at least be an open competition, if not Warner entering camp as the incumbent. If Leinart can't win the job in camp, then the struggle will be character-building (and presumably they would be playing the better QB, Warner, after over a month of looking at them side by side), and if the demotion crushes him, then he was never meant to be your franchise QB anyway. Meanwhile, if Warner had started from week 1 on this year, we'd probably be talking the Cards going to the playoffs.

I agree completely. Let Leinart sit and learn if he can't win the job outright.

Leinart is not ready to be a starting NFL quarterback, who knows if he ever will. Warner is AZ's best shot at the playoffs

 

[Bears_Man2]

Leinart will be the starter in 2008. As much more fluid the offense moved with Warner this year, they want to play like they did under Leinart (establish the run to set up the pass).

Warner has been solid the 2nd half of the year, but he still makes too many errant throws (trying to force things in coverage vs. just throwing the ball out of bounds).

As unimpresive/tentative/confused as Leinart looked this year, he'll enter 2008 as the starter. Their might be a 'camp competition', but Leinart is the heavy favorite to win, make no mistake about it. There are no excuses for Matt in 2008. He's had the entire year to sit back and get the playbook down (it looked to me when he was in there, he just didn't know where to go with the ball). Looked completely overwhelmed, taking a big step back from 2006.

The Cardinals did not make the playoffs in 2007 (obviously). If you take a look at their schedule, things were lined up perfectly for them to do so with Warner under center.

 

[Couch Potato]

and if the demotion crushes him, then he was never meant to be your franchise QB anyway.

Hahahaha. That's a terrible way to manage players. Your job as a coach or as talent development is to understand that all players have strengths and weaknesses, to then figure out your players' strengths, and then put them into a position to win. Your job is NOT to break their spirit, to think about ways to to discourage them, to make them think they suck. You'd be fired in a second if I was running a team and you said that.Let me tell you something else. Good players don't go to the Patriots and turn into crappy players only to be reclaimed elsewhere. Its the other way around. Players that everyone thinks are a bust go to the Pats and become great, like Randy Moss, because Belichick isn't focusing on why the player sucks, he's focusing on taking the talent on-hand and putting it in the best possible position to win.

Hey Pai Mei, I saw you in Kill Bill and that's not what you did at all! You were all for crushing the spirit to build it up again then. What's changed??!!

 

[FUBAR]

No chance. Arizona brought in the kid from USC to be the franchise, they won't be using the 50 year old bagger any longer than they have to.

Hope you took advantage of the situation, but it will not continue.

REALLY. How did that thinking work in Chicago when they kept Benson over TJ?

This happens way too much in football... Management get a little to pig headed and refuse to admit that their draft choice has failed... even at the point where they just force the job to a kid that is clearly not ready.

you're right, and Benson/TJ has no bearing whatsoever in this situation. Brees/Rivers would be a better comparison, San Diego chose the young gun over a proven stud. Difference here is Warner is 36 and throws about as many INTs as TDs whereas Brees was 26 and a pro bowler. The only saving grace for Warner is he's not going to cost much, so he'll be back.

In order for him to be the starter, he will have to far outplay Leinart, instead of this being a "best man wins" competition.

 

[FUBAR]

Last on the Audible, we discussed this very topic.

My take: There should at least be an open competition, if not Warner entering camp as the incumbent. If Leinart can't win the job in camp, then the struggle will be character-building (and presumably they would be playing the better QB, Warner, after over a month of looking at them side by side), and if the demotion crushes him, then he was never meant to be your franchise QB anyway. Meanwhile, if Warner had started from week 1 on this year, we'd probably be talking the Cards going to the playoffs.

REALLY? Leinart was 3-2, Warner 4-6

 

[[scooter]]

Last on the Audible, we discussed this very topic.

My take: There should at least be an open competition, if not Warner entering camp as the incumbent. If Leinart can't win the job in camp, then the struggle will be character-building (and presumably they would be playing the better QB, Warner, after over a month of looking at them side by side), and if the demotion crushes him, then he was never meant to be your franchise QB anyway. Meanwhile, if Warner had started from week 1 on this year, we'd probably be talking the Cards going to the playoffs.

REALLY? Leinart was 3-2, Warner 4-6

Leinart was benched in favor of Warner for 2 of those 3 wins.Leinart was 1-2 as the primary QB. Warner was 6-5. (Rattay was 0-1)

 

[bryan215]

The biggest problem with Matt is his arm friggin sucks. His deep balls make even Chad Pennington laugh.

Warner is not a solid starter in the league, just to old and been banged up to much(Mike Martz FTW), but he is a very very good backup.

It will be Matt's job to lose and if he doesn't look good then next year could be his last season. Luckily for Matt is that if they do keep Warner and Matt is the starter, Kurt will support and try and help him 100%.

I wouldnt be surprised if the Cards draft a QB in the latter rounds just hoping to possibly strike gold/have a backup plan.

They really good use a Willie Parker type back to go along with Edge who is basically a better version of Davenport.

Cards shoulda drafted Cutler

 

[BobbyLayne]

Competition at a position is a good thing. They ought to stick with whatever they decide in August 2008, but until then, it should an open competition.

My gut says they will continue to give Leinart every chance to suceed. It's human nature to keep dwelling on the sunk cost. Warner has to outplay the youngster by a country mile to get the job; if they are close, they will go with the future.

I think this year they thought they had a legitimate shot at the playoffs (weak conference, very weak division), so they were inclined to go with the field general who gave them the best shot at winning NOW. The season ending injury was a blessing, really. A full season of rotating would have shattered what little confidence Leinart had by the end of Week 6.

 

[Bri]

and if the demotion crushes him, then he was never meant to be your franchise QB anyway.

Hahahaha. That's a terrible way to manage players. Your job as a coach or as talent development is to understand that all players have strengths and weaknesses, to then figure out your players' strengths, and then put them into a position to win. Your job is NOT to break their spirit, to think about ways to to discourage them, to make them think they suck. You'd be fired in a second if I was running a team and you said that.

You haven't ever been to a Bill Parcells training camp then. I can all but assure you if you feel like buying some books or googling for stories, you'll find some of it very interesting. Many coaches break down players to build them back up. Bad habits, egos too big, fals confidence...lots of reasons for it. John Wooden never would have but everyone has their style. I think Wooden's always positive approach is much less common than Parcells'.Many Giants, Curtis Martin, Meshawn, ...number of players would say his training camp and the mind games he plays makes the season seem easy. Leinart could use some "breaking down and building backup". He came into the league with the "biggest" ego in quite some time, all hollywood and all too. Maybe his QB struggles have grounded him but if not he needs to realize he's gotta learn and eat some humble pie

 

[[scooter]]

You haven't ever been to a Bill Parcells training camp then. I can all but assure you if you feel like buying some books or googling for stories, you'll find some of it very interesting. Many coaches break down players to build them back up. Bad habits, egos too big, fals confidence...lots of reasons for it. John Wooden never would have but everyone has their style. I think Wooden's always positive approach is much less common than Parcells'.

Even Wooden wouldn't be so foolish as to anoint Leinart the starter in training camp. And if Leinart pouted, Wooden would have just said "So sorry that your feelings were hurt. Feel free to come back to practice when you get over it."

 

[Bri]

Pai Mei

http://books.google.com/books?id=xmcqRONBz...zNraM#PPA113,M1

 

[DinkinFlicka]

How does the organization see Levi Brown and his RT position in relation to having a right handed or left handed QB? I'm just wondering if anything said about Brown indicates if they are building for a lefty QB or if it makes no difference.

 

[KellysHeroes]

you're right, and Benson/TJ has no bearing whatsoever in this situation. Brees/Rivers would be a better comparison, San Diego chose the young gun over a proven stud. Difference here is Warner is 36 and throws about as many INTs as TDs whereas Brees was 26 and a pro bowler. The only saving grace for Warner is he's not going to cost much, so he'll be back. In order for him to be the starter, he will have to far outplay Leinart, instead of this being a "best man wins" competition.

INTs didn't seem to be Warner's problem this year... his Yds and TDs seemed good. It was his 2 fumbles a game that seemed to kill the team at times... also; the Defense let down on some crappy teams. See the SF game.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

Kurt Warner, circa 2007, is a significantly better NFL QB than Matt Leinert. A few of his fumbles were invariably a result of playing the position with one arm for half the season.

A tough call. The Cards will be a "win now" team in 2008 trying to build on an 8-8 record this year (hopefully). I think that 1 more year of Warner is the way to go. They can easily be a playoff team with Warner next year, while Leinert is work-in-process. Warner gets hurt a lot, so Leinert may very well see the field next year anyway.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Announce Warner as your starter going into camp and make the kid earn it back.

 

[Colin Dowling]

While I realize that fans are eager for picks to turn in to Pro-Bowlers overnight, it simply isn't the case many times at QB. Unfortunately for Leinart, he can't fail again when he takes over as starter. If he plays to a level that gets him benched again, that's it. That's what happened with Boller, what happened with Losman, and appears to be happening with Grossman. So, it's in Leinart's best interests and presumably the best interest of the franchise not to roll him out there again until he is ready to keep the job for good.

 

[MDSkinner]

It seems to me that Warner has not been all that spectacular, really. Over the last 7 weeks, the guy has had pretty gaudy fantasy numbers but look at who he has played....Detroit, Cincy, Cleveland, Seattle, New Orleans, Atlanta. Out of that bunch the only two that are not in the bottom 10 pass defenses are Seattle (16th) and Atlanta (20th) and against Seattle Warner threw 5 picks.

I am not a Leinart fan, but to light up bad defenses does not lead me to believe that Warner is "the guy".

 

[KellysHeroes]

This is very similar to what we have going on in NYJ... Penny and Warner are 2 very different QBs; but both give their teams a better chance to win "today." I wouldn't be shocked if NY rolls Penny out of town while Zona may find it in their best interests to give Warner the rock for one more yr... I personally believe he didn't have a fair shake in 06; Zona was a very bad team that yr with a terrible o-line. Allow Warner one more chance... if he goes 4 - 5, then hes done.

 

[kflo]

I want to chim ein here. I own both Matt and Kurt in a keeper league. I would want Matt to come in a light it up and Kurt disappear but I dont think that is going to happen. I think Lineart needs to focus on being a NFL qb (which I read he stays at the complex watching tape and such now) and stop qworrying about commericals, partying and everything else. Warner fantasy wise was really good, NFL wise he was average. Def not good enough to be HANDED anything and Lineart shouldnot be HANDED anything either just cause they spent a high pick on him. I think the Cards should lean more turn giving the job to Lineart because he has more upside and more of a future in the NFL.Also why do you say Linearty has a weak arm have you seen any of his games? He doesnt have a cannon but it is FAR from weak. Watch some Jet games, I know high school qb's with better arms.I think when camp opens next year there will be a open comp between both qb's with Lineart winning the job if he looks at least slightly improved from this year.

The biggest problem with Matt is his arm friggin sucks. His deep balls make even Chad Pennington laugh.Warner is not a solid starter in the league, just to old and been banged up to much(Mike Martz FTW), but he is a very very good backup. It will be Matt's job to lose and if he doesn't look good then next year could be his last season. Luckily for Matt is that if they do keep Warner and Matt is the starter, Kurt will support and try and help him 100%.I wouldnt be surprised if the Cards draft a QB in the latter rounds just hoping to possibly strike gold/have a backup plan.They really good use a Willie Parker type back to go along with Edge who is basically a better version of Davenport.Cards shoulda drafted Cutler

 

[kflo]

The biggest problem with Matt is his arm friggin sucks. His deep balls make even Chad Pennington laugh.Warner is not a solid starter in the league, just to old and been banged up to much(Mike Martz FTW), but he is a very very good backup. It will be Matt's job to lose and if he doesn't look good then next year could be his last season. Luckily for Matt is that if they do keep Warner and Matt is the starter, Kurt will support and try and help him 100%.I wouldnt be surprised if the Cards draft a QB in the latter rounds just hoping to possibly strike gold/have a backup plan.They really good use a Willie Parker type back to go along with Edge who is basically a better version of Davenport.Cards shoulda drafted Cutler

 

[snarfsnarf]

Does Warner come into next season the starter?

No.The team was 4-6 with Warner as the starter and he turned the ball over 19 times in those 10 games.

How is this even a question. Go with the kid and see what you have. What are you missing out on, a 4-6 record?

 

[Kiddnets]

update on this...

Only minutes after the Cardinals beat the Rams 48-19 in the season finale Sunday, coach Ken Whisenhunt was asked about his starting quarterback in 2008.

Will it be Kurt Warner, who threw 27 touchdown passes this year? Or Matt Leinart, who suffered a broken collarbone in the fifth game and missed the rest of the season?

Whisenhunt made it clear that Leinart has the inside track.

"I don't believe in a player losing his job because of an injury, which is what happened with Matt," Whisenhunt said.

That apparently doesn't mean that Leinart can't lose the job, however.

"We have an off-season to evaluate that (the position), and we will go back and look at the entire season and how Matt played and how Kurt played," Whisenhunt said. "Both of those men played good football for us at times this year."

Warner, who is under contract for another season, smiled when asked if he hoped to be the starter in 2008.

"Gee, I hope so," he said. "I don't have any anticipations as far as that's concerned. There's no doubt that Matt is the future. Hopefully, I made it a little bit harder on him.

"Do I want to play? Sure I do. Do I think that I've proven that I can still play at a high level? I think I have. I'm going to be here to do whatever they call me to do: if that's starting, if that's backing up, if that's being the backup, if that's switching off with Matt like we did earlier this year. Whatever that is, I'm open to it."