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Is LJ basically untradeable? (1 Viewer)

I say "yes". I waived Larry Johnson in order to sign Glen Coffee this week in a 12-team redraft.

Admittedly, my league has a total of 1-2 trades over the entire season, so a deal wasn't likely.

 
Pretty much yes. I'm holding him in dynasty but plan to drop him before rookie draft next year. In my league he has zero value.

 
I agree, if not for injuries to other players, he'd already be cut from my dynasty league. In redraft, his value is nearly nothing. He'll still get some carries, but he looked used up.

 
One owner in my league traded him to another owner who was carrying 2 DST's for some reason (he got the Niners DST for LJ)...so I guess it's not exactly "nothing"

 
I tried unloading him during the offseason, but no go. Perhaps I was asking too much. I'm not even sure if I can get crap picks in next year's draft for him at this point. His value was low coming into the season, but is exceptionally low now with the horrible performance that he and KC have put up. I saw it coming though, since their schedule was very rough at the start...

 
I'm trying to trade LJ to an owner who only has 3 RBs on his roster (Turner, K.smith, and J.Stewart) for Donnie Avery (his WR4 in a start 3 WR league) no luck yet, but he is thinking it over.

LJ is boarderline droppable and will only return another boarderline droppable player

 
I couldn't move LJ either. Going into the season I was thinking of taking a chance and using LJ as my rb2. Would have been a big mistake. I wound up drafting a lot of RB depth so I have the luxury of keeping him on the bench and hoping he picks it up and I can trade him for a missing piece later. Not dumping him at this point though.

 
The LJ owner floated the idea to me of LJ for Chester Taylor (he has AP). Not an official offer, but I don't think I'd do it.

 
I kinda glad LJ got his big contract before the wheels fell off. If he's smart he'll live off that for the rest of his life.

 
I tried to trade him for anything in my league and its just guys that are getting tossed to the WW that get sent to ya. You can drp LJ and he may not even get picked up. ( Probally will as long as he still starts ). Absolutley untradable.

 
I went with the package deal to upgrade at another position. LJ (after his decent game against Oakland) and Hines Ward for Boldin in a PPR league. Went after an owner that was short at RB. Might try that approach. LJ still has a little name value..........

 
Here are the best pitches to use to increase LJ's value

- He is still one of the few backs that touches the ball 20 times a game.

- Cassel missed some time in the pre-season and should be hitting stride soon which will lead to more GL looks

- The most Dynamic player on the team (Bowe) is back and healthy. He will help keep drives alive and move the ball downfield

- The O-Line has two new starters that are getting better every game

 
Sabertooth said:
I agree, if not for injuries to other players, he'd already be cut from my dynasty league. In redraft, his value is nearly nothing. He'll still get some carries, but he looked used up.
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Before Week 3, I rolled up Pennington/LJ/Charles for JStew to a QB-less team with only 1 startable RB (due to injuries) in my start 2QBs dynasty league.I consider myself incredibly lucky, considering what happened to Penny.

In my other dynasty where I own LJ, I can't even get a 4th round pick for him right now.

 
I have on the bench in a 10 team 14 player redraft. I like him for spot starts in weeks 13-15 but if injuries pile up, he'll be the first to get jettisoned.

 
I unloaded him just before last weekends games.

I gave Eli and LJ and got Slaton.

The other owner really needed a QB and was frustrated by Slaton's slow start. And LJ has some added value in our league b/c its .25 per rush attempt.

But I dont think he'd do that deal this week. Now Im still concerned about Slaton and how sluggish he's looked but I do have to say I like his prospects for the rest of the year a lil bit better than LJ's. Okay, a lot better.

 
Just dropped him today for Jerome Harrison. That's fine if he blows up in one game, but he'd be on my bench at the time anyway. I also have no faith in his ability to string together a run of games where he does well.

 
I was offered Cutler or Flacco for LJ a week ago and passed. Not looking too smart right now. I don't think I could trade him for Brady Quinn at this point.

 
Dynasty i traded him for Andre Caldwell today .

I think Caldwell and Palmer developed good chemestry together and he could become a important player in CIN offense.

 
A few days ago I traded LJ and Bennett for Hightower in a 12 team PPR league (keep 2). I was thrilled to be able to make this deal. I like Bennett this year for PPR but I desperately needed to ugrade my RB3. I would not underestimate the significance of byes. This guy had his WR1 (Fitz) and WR2 (Carolina's S Smith) on bye and saw Timmy on bye as well and he's 0-3 so I think he said F it, I need to win a game or I'm done. Opportunities and situations can arise to offset LJ's suckitude - look for them!

 
Eviloutsider said:
Tomlinson still has top 15 value (Ryan Grantish). Jamal Lewis on the other hand is not a player would want to rely on.
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I'm actually thinking about trying to acquire Johnson as a RB 2/3 for me to replace McFadden :shrug: in a platoon with Leon Washington in a 14 team league and am interested in what his current value might be and how he is being used is KC.I'm not expecting the world, but he could be a low cost trade that will give me steady, if unspectacular, points for me and after McFadden I'd take steady.

 
RushHour said:
If not, what kind player would you target?
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Yes, he is the most untradeable player in FF.He is:Untradeable.Drop him and whoever you add.... that's what you would get in a trade for him. That is a trade.Having said that I dropped him a couple weeks ago and he got picked right up.I dropped him for MSW.
 
He wouldn't be as untradeable if the Chiefs decided to run the ball in short yardage situations. They ran the ball to the 1 yard line, then passed twice. Then later in the 4th they passed again after one run by LJ.

He was close to getting 2 TDs, and his value would have spiked a bit.

 
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He's had a pretty brutal schedule so far though? He hasn't been producing against these tough teams, for sure, but he got alot of yards against the Raiders. If he had a touchdown or two from one of the short yardage situations, he would be right in the mix with a bunch of other rb3 ish, matchup type of RBs. Not expecting big numbers, but this is probably as low as it will get unless he loses his job.

Someone in my league just dropped him, and I'm pretty sure I will drop DMC's sweet negative yardage for LJ.

 
Hasn't he been up against some good D's though? I would think if you are wanting to trade him, wait for a couple of soft defensive games first. If you are wanting to buy, buy now. No?

( ETA- I guess fozzy was writing at the same time I started. )

 
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Just traded for him

16 team IDP Dynasty league

Sent

Bracket and early 3rd RD pick

for

Larry Johnson and Larry Foote

I may never use him (Forte and Moreno), but with a playoff schedule of Bills, Browns, Bengals he could be a top RB for those 3 weeks.

 
Call me crazy, but I actually think he is a great buy low right now. He draws Buffalo, Cleveland and Cincy weeks 14-16 and still has the talent to put up solid numbers. If the o-line can get it together even slightly, he can be a rb2/3 for most teams. There doesn't seem to be another back nipping at his heels and he is even catching passes out of the backfield. I have been giving some thought to starting him at my flex spot over Addai this week, based purely on a hunch that he gashes the Cowboys this weekend.

 
Avery said:
Eviloutsider said:
Tomlinson still has top 15 value (Ryan Grantish). Jamal Lewis on the other hand is not a player would want to rely on.
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I'm actually thinking about trying to acquire Johnson as a RB 2/3 for me to replace McFadden :lmao: in a platoon with Leon Washington in a 14 team league and am interested in what his current value might be and how he is being used is KC.I'm not expecting the world, but he could be a low cost trade that will give me steady, if unspectacular, points for me and after McFadden I'd take steady.
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I'm in the same boat. I'm considering buying him as replacement at RB3/spot flex filler in place of McFadden. I know his owner in this particular league is TOTALLY over him and will likely give him away for magic beans at this point.

He has a couple matchups looming that SHOULD be productive (Chargers twice, Oakland, hell even the Jags and Cowboys aren't great vs. the run).....but as of yet I just haven't talked myself into it.

 
Steel Town said:
Call me crazy, but I actually think he is a great buy low right now. He draws Buffalo, Cleveland and Cincy weeks 14-16 and still has the talent to put up solid numbers. If the o-line can get it together even slightly, he can be a rb2/3 for most teams. There doesn't seem to be another back nipping at his heels and he is even catching passes out of the backfield. I have been giving some thought to starting him at my flex spot over Addai this week, based purely on a hunch that he gashes the Cowboys this weekend.
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That's a pretty strong case for buying him cheap, when you add in the couple games vs. San Diego and the Oakland matchup too.Hmmm...
 
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montana_grizzly_bears said:
I traded Lj last week for SD def (i only had Washington), than the owner I traded him to sent him to a different team this week for Bowe.
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I've actually got both of 'em from KC. :coffee:
Steel Town said:
Call me crazy, but I actually think he is a great buy low right now. He draws Buffalo, Cleveland and Cincy weeks 14-16 and still has the talent to put up solid numbers. If the o-line can get it together even slightly, he can be a rb2/3 for most teams. There doesn't seem to be another back nipping at his heels and he is even catching passes out of the backfield. I have been giving some thought to starting him at my flex spot over Addai this week, based purely on a hunch that he gashes the Cowboys this weekend.
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That's the thing I've been hoping for. Especially with Cassell slowed early, and their monstrous schedule--what little he managed week 4 was actually pretty good against the Giants, and that playoff schedule looks sweeeeeeet!! He's my occasional flex/bye week filler so unless something really good comes up I'll likely hold on...
 
Max Power said:
Here are the best pitches to use to increase LJ's value- He is still one of the few backs that touches the ball 20 times a game. - Cassel missed some time in the pre-season and should be hitting stride soon which will lead to more GL looks- The most Dynamic player on the team (Bowe) is back and healthy. He will help keep drives alive and move the ball downfield- The O-Line has two new starters that are getting better every game
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Hmmm, if I'm an LJ owner I'd1: copy bullet points above2: compose e-mail entitled "Larry Johnson - the key to your FF season"3: paste bullet points from above4: send to other owners in your league5: sit back and wait for boatloads of offers
 
Forget untradeable. Is he droppable? I say yes. He was taking up space on my precious 5 person bench. Needed to stream(bye week fillin) his position to hold onto other assets such as Donald Brown and Ahmad Bradshaw and the likes. Another bench spot is dedicated to my 2nd qb. Thats 3. Then spots 4 and 5 are held for my normal starters who are on bye.

What say you? Keep hoping for a couple good games here and there. Or drop him and add some other bye week fill in for those certain spot starts to gain 3-5 points. Or some other weekly lottery ticket with more upside.

Also when he does come up with a big week. The following week, when you do start him, he will drop another 3-5 point week on you.

 
The only team I have him on is a lock for the playoffs, and he's behind Ronnie, Benson, Rice, Caddy and Mendenhall right now but there's no way I move him. He's solid depth for the playoffs if I need it. If all the above are healthy before the trade deadline, I may move him to a RB desperate team. I think he gets a value spike at some point this season and for rosters more than 16 deep, I'd advise against selling low right now.

 
Just traded for him in a three player keeper league.

Gave away Sanchez( who I was going to cut anyway due to roster limitations now that I am through McNabb/Kolb's bye) so he didn't cost me anything.

Seems like a reasonable risk. :confused:

 
Cookiemonster said:
The only team I have him on is a lock for the playoffs, and he's behind Ronnie, Benson, Rice, Caddy and Mendenhall right now but there's no way I move him. He's solid depth for the playoffs if I need it. If all the above are healthy before the trade deadline, I may move him to a RB desperate team. I think he gets a value spike at some point this season and for rosters more than 16 deep, I'd advise against selling low right now.
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There are a few possible reasons LJ's numbers improve going forward.1/ Easier schedule. KC's schedule has been brutal thus far.2/ Matt Cassel is healthy and is starting to get comfortable in the offense3/ Dwayne Bowe will be healthy. If healthy he is a legit weapon defenses would have to respect4/ The O-line can only get better going forward.5/ He is going to get a lot of touches this season.6/ Great playoff schedule.I think LJ is a decent buy low right now as long as you understand you are getting a #3 rb and not that Larry Johnson from 4/5 years ago... That said I think he has some upside.
 
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