Is Michael Floyd underrated? (3 Viewers)

[Raider Nation]

Fitz is not looking good for this week. But if you need this bum on Sunday, it would actually be better for him to be in the lineup. Otherwise, Floyd is gonna have Sherman in his shirt all day, and that will not end well.

 

[BringItOn]

I dropped him. I still aint looking back with AJ, OBD, Randle and based god Gordon on my roster.

Prefer him over Randle, particularly in Dynasty. His Talent is there.... Opportunity is coming....

 

[cstu]

(FFToday)"It would take a miracle" for Larry Fitzgerald to play. Currently a game-time decision.

Analysis: Fitzgerald missed practice this week and will likely be on the Inactive list when the Cardinals play the Seahawks in a late- afternoon game. Michael Floyd and John Brown would be the starting receivers if Fitzgerald sits.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Speaking Monday, Cardinals coach Bruce Arians conceded he "should have done a better job finding ways to get Michael Floyd open" in Sunday's loss.

Floyd was targeted twice in Seattle, catching zero passes. Truth be told, there probably wasn't much Arians could have done to get Floyd more looks against the Seahawks' elite secondary with Drew Stanton at quarterback, but it's encouraging he's at least acknowledged the fact that Floyd should be more involved. Arians had previously been ambivalent about increasing Floyd's targets. Regardless of Arians' intentions, Floyd has been reduced to boom-or-bust WR4 status with Stanton replacing Carson Palmer.

Source: Darren Urban on Twitter
Nov 24 - 2:34 PM

 

[just_want_2_win]

Rotoworld:

Speaking Monday, Cardinals coach Bruce Arians conceded he "should have done a better job finding ways to get Michael Floyd open" in Sunday's loss.

Floyd was targeted twice in Seattle, catching zero passes. Truth be told, there probably wasn't much Arians could have done to get Floyd more looks against the Seahawks' elite secondary with Drew Stanton at quarterback, but it's encouraging he's at least acknowledged the fact that Floyd should be more involved. Arians had previously been ambivalent about increasing Floyd's targets. Regardless of Arians' intentions, Floyd has been reduced to boom-or-bust WR4 status with Stanton replacing Carson Palmer.

Source: Darren Urban on Twitter

Nov 24 - 2:34 PM

But I thought that Arians says they don't go out of there way to force the ball anyone's way.

Floyd is waiver fodder.

 

[Godsbrother]

Rotoworld:

Speaking Monday, Cardinals coach Bruce Arians conceded he "should have done a better job finding ways to get Michael Floyd open" in Sunday's loss.

Floyd was targeted twice in Seattle, catching zero passes. Truth be told, there probably wasn't much Arians could have done to get Floyd more looks against the Seahawks' elite secondary with Drew Stanton at quarterback, but it's encouraging he's at least acknowledged the fact that Floyd should be more involved. Arians had previously been ambivalent about increasing Floyd's targets. Regardless of Arians' intentions, Floyd has been reduced to boom-or-bust WR4 status with Stanton replacing Carson Palmer.

Source: Darren Urban on Twitter

Nov 24 - 2:34 PM

But I thought that Arians says they don't go out of there way to force the ball anyone's way.

Floyd is waiver fodder.

Not a single catch without Fitzgerald in the lineup. Crazy...

 

[just_want_2_win]

Rotoworld:

Speaking Monday, Cardinals coach Bruce Arians conceded he "should have done a better job finding ways to get Michael Floyd open" in Sunday's loss.

Floyd was targeted twice in Seattle, catching zero passes. Truth be told, there probably wasn't much Arians could have done to get Floyd more looks against the Seahawks' elite secondary with Drew Stanton at quarterback, but it's encouraging he's at least acknowledged the fact that Floyd should be more involved. Arians had previously been ambivalent about increasing Floyd's targets. Regardless of Arians' intentions, Floyd has been reduced to boom-or-bust WR4 status with Stanton replacing Carson Palmer.

Source: Darren Urban on Twitter

Nov 24 - 2:34 PM

But I thought that Arians says they don't go out of there way to force the ball anyone's way.

Floyd is waiver fodder.

Not a single catch without Fitzgerald in the lineup. Crazy...

Guy's a lineup killer. Yeah, he could get you 2 TDs but more than likely is going to give you a goose egg. No thanks.

 

[Koya]

Wow. To think I got crap when trading for him in week two for crapfadden... And that I actually second guessed myself when I then dropped him... And THEN wondered if I should have picked him up last week with fitz out.

Garbage.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Easily the most disappointing player of 2014?

The first game he had a goose egg I lost by a single point. Just ten yards and I would have won and it could very well cost me the playoffs. A single stinking point...

 

[mnmplayer]

Rotoworld:

Speaking Monday, Cardinals coach Bruce Arians conceded he "should have done a better job finding ways to get Michael Floyd open" in Sunday's loss.

Floyd was targeted twice in Seattle, catching zero passes. Truth be told, there probably wasn't much Arians could have done to get Floyd more looks against the Seahawks' elite secondary with Drew Stanton at quarterback, but it's encouraging he's at least acknowledged the fact that Floyd should be more involved. Arians had previously been ambivalent about increasing Floyd's targets. Regardless of Arians' intentions, Floyd has been reduced to boom-or-bust WR4 status with Stanton replacing Carson Palmer.

Source: Darren Urban on Twitter

Nov 24 - 2:34 PM

But I thought that Arians says they don't go out of there way to force the ball anyone's way.

Floyd is waiver fodder.

Not a single catch without Fitzgerald in the lineup. Crazy...

Guy's a lineup killer. Yeah, he could get you 2 TDs but more than likely is going to give you a goose egg. No thanks.

Torrey Smith must have worked out with him in the off season.

 

[cstu]

Floyd loves week 17:

2012: 8/166/1

2013: 6/91/0

2014: 8/153/2

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Michael Floyd - WR - Cardinals

Michael Floyd secured 8-of-12 targets for 153 yards and two touchdowns in the Cardinals' Week 17 loss to the 49ers.

Floyd finally showed what he's capable of when given a lot of passing-game volume. He's a true "No. 1" receiver; the Cardinals to this point just hadn't utilized him as one. Floyd made spectacular sideline catches in this one and repeatedly abused San Francisco's secondary. The Cardinals will need more of where this game from to have a shot at upsetting Carolina in the Wild Card round.

Dec 28 - 7:45 PM

 

[cstu]

Floyd loves week 17:

2012: 8/166/1

2013: 6/91/0

2014: 8/153/2

 

[Zyphros]

Whats the consensus on him right now? Is he due for a comeback next year? Too many mouths to feed that Floyd only gets ~4 targets a game next year? Arians is coach of the year, so his scheme likely isn't going anywhere. Depends on what Fitz does in regards to pay cut or just being cut? I'm finding it really hard to gauge his value right now.

 

[cstu]

Whats the consensus on him right now? Is he due for a comeback next year? Too many mouths to feed that Floyd only gets ~4 targets a game next year? Arians is coach of the year, so his scheme likely isn't going anywhere. Depends on what Fitz does in regards to pay cut or just being cut? I'm finding it really hard to gauge his value right now.

Completely depends on Fitz, IMO.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Whats the consensus on him right now? Is he due for a comeback next year? Too many mouths to feed that Floyd only gets ~4 targets a game next year? Arians is coach of the year, so his scheme likely isn't going anywhere. Depends on what Fitz does in regards to pay cut or just being cut? I'm finding it really hard to gauge his value right now.

Completely depends on Fitz, IMO.

I agree for the most part. Getting Palmer to play 16 games would probably help too. Not that his numbers were all that stellar with Palmer. (only played in 6 games together this year. 17/260/2)

Fitz/Floyd/Brown all need one of the others to get hurt, go away, something. Fitz and Brown got 103 targets, Floyd 99. Ellington got 64 in 12 games too (that's 85/year pace). Just too many mouths to feed.

I'm not all that optimistic on Floyd for 2015 assuming Fitz is coming back. Floyd is a UFA after this year. I would think he would want to get out asap.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Whats the consensus on him right now? Is he due for a comeback next year? Too many mouths to feed that Floyd only gets ~4 targets a game next year? Arians is coach of the year, so his scheme likely isn't going anywhere. Depends on what Fitz does in regards to pay cut or just being cut? I'm finding it really hard to gauge his value right now.

Completely depends on Fitz, IMO.

Agree.

I think John Brown is/will be better than Floyd for fantasy PPR purposes when Fitz is gone. I think Floyd can still be a 1000 yard receiver again (when Fitz is gone). I just don't think he'll be consistent with catches/production. Not a great route runner and too slow for my liking out of his breaks.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Cardinals coach Bruce Arians says he wants to see more "consistency" from Michael Floyd in his fourth NFL season.
Arians called Floyd a "victim" of Arizona's 2014 revolving door at quarterback, but indicated the jury is still out on the 13th pick in the 2012 draft. "I think some frustration went into his play at times," said Arians. "But he still needs to hit a consistency level. He's a thousand-yard player every year. He should have had a thousand, easily, last year." The Cardinals must soon decide whether to exercise Floyd's 2016 option year. Floyd turned 25 late last November.

Source: Mike Jurecki on Twitter
Mar 29 - 2:25 PM

 

[cstu]

Can't even move Floyd for a 1st right now.

Waiting to see if they pick up his 5th year option (average salary of the 3rd-25th WR's).

December 29: Option exercise period begins for fifth-year option for first-round selections from the 2012 NFL Draft. To exercise the option, the club must give written notice to the player on or after December 29, 2014 but prior to May 3, 2015.

 

[Shutout]

Guy has burned me at every turn so far in his career. So I am biased for sure but I think he is likely to be a bit more consistent this year but not as much of a fantasy producer as people were thinking he would be last year at this time.

 

[Danish Bengal]

His value is all over the place. I included him in a counter with other players for my 1.03 and other players. The guy told me he wouldn't even move Floyd alone for the 1.03

 

[shady inc]

offered my floyd for his 1.08 and was rejected. i thought that was about fair value, guess not

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

The Cardinals haven't decided if they want to pick up Michael Floyd's fifth-year option for 2016.

Floyd is coming off a meager 47-841-6 season and the option is worth $7.3 million. But that lack of production stemmed partly from the Cardinals' quarterback woes and partly from the boom-or-bust way that Floyd was used. Floyd, a physically imposing and gifted receiver, is the kind of player that still has blowup potential at age 25. The Cardinals must make a decision by May 3.

Source: Mike Jurecki on Twitter
Apr 23 - 7:44 AM

 

[cstu]

Cardinals pick up Floyd's option

The Cardinals told Floyd they’re picking up the 2016 option, Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic reports.

Arizona chose Floyd with the 13th overall pick in the 2012 NFL draft, and he has played fairly well. But there was some talk that the team didn’t think he had played well enough to justify the $7.3 million salary that Floyd will now earn in 2016.

Of course, if Floyd has a disappointing 2015 season, the Cardinals can still cut him and not pay a dime of that $7.3 million, as long as he isn’t injured. So picking up the fifth-year option isn’t a big risk. It’s a move that makes a lot of sense.

 

[cstu]

It's not a huge deal since there's little risk for the Cardinals but it is a sign they still see potential in him.

 

[AngryPatriot]

Unless Palmer is healthy and throws to Floyd, he is doomed fantasy wise!! lol... Floyd needs to be a regular part of the offense so at this point he is worthless. It's like he was in the doghouse or something... and crap QB play doesn't help. John Brown might be the play here.

So no, he is not underrated.

 

[Raider Nation]

My biggest problem with this guy is that I don't see the drive to WANT to be great. He seems to readily accept mediocre performances. I hate guys like that.

 

[Dezbelief]

My biggest problem with this guy is that I don't see the drive to WANT to be great. He seems to readily accept mediocre performances. I hate guys like that.

Fitzgerald called him out on his lack of effort when they started practicing together.

 

[Raider Nation]

My biggest problem with this guy is that I don't see the drive to WANT to be great. He seems to readily accept mediocre performances. I hate guys like that.

Fitzgerald called him out on his lack of effort when they started practicing together.

Not surprising.

 

[FF Ninja]

Unless Palmer is healthy and throws to Floyd, he is doomed fantasy wise!! lol... Floyd needs to be a regular part of the offense so at this point he is worthless. It's like he was in the doghouse or something... and crap QB play doesn't help. John Brown might be the play here.

So no, he is not underrated.

I agree with the first part. Is there any reason to believe that Palmer isn't going to be healthy? If Palmer is healthy then Floyd is going to be underrated (speaking solely about redraft). Floyd is the deep threat in a Bruce Arians offense. Palmer throws a great deep ball. Think Mike Wallace/Big Ben. He's currently going in the 7th round as WR31. Looks to be a steal to me.

 

[amicsta]

Unless Palmer is healthy and throws to Floyd, he is doomed fantasy wise!! lol... Floyd needs to be a regular part of the offense so at this point he is worthless. It's like he was in the doghouse or something... and crap QB play doesn't help. John Brown might be the play here.

So no, he is not underrated.

I agree with the first part. Is there any reason to believe that Palmer isn't going to be healthy? If Palmer is healthy then Floyd is going to be underrated (speaking solely about redraft). Floyd is the deep threat in a Bruce Arians offense. Palmer throws a great deep ball. Think Mike Wallace/Big Ben. He's currently going in the 7th round as WR31. Looks to be a steal to me.

Floyd was worse with Palmer than without last year. Palmer was obviously banged up so I'm not saying that's repeatable, I just think the issue goes deeper than the quarterback. They may not be calling as many deep shots, or those deep shots are going to John Brown often enough to affect Floyd way negatively. I thought Floyd was going to pop off last season and he disappointed me. As a result, I have a lot of dynasty stock in him. I'm holding and hopeful, but I'm still concerned.

 

[ol blues]

Unless Palmer is healthy and throws to Floyd, he is doomed fantasy wise!! lol... Floyd needs to be a regular part of the offense so at this point he is worthless. It's like he was in the doghouse or something... and crap QB play doesn't help. John Brown might be the play here.

So no, he is not underrated.

I agree with the first part. Is there any reason to believe that Palmer isn't going to be healthy? If Palmer is healthy then Floyd is going to be underrated (speaking solely about redraft). Floyd is the deep threat in a Bruce Arians offense. Palmer throws a great deep ball. Think Mike Wallace/Big Ben. He's currently going in the 7th round as WR31. Looks to be a steal to me.

Floyd was worse with Palmer than without last year. Palmer was obviously banged up so I'm not saying that's repeatable, I just think the issue goes deeper than the quarterback. They may not be calling as many deep shots, or those deep shots are going to John Brown often enough to affect Floyd way negatively. I thought Floyd was going to pop off last season and he disappointed me. As a result, I have a lot of dynasty stock in him. I'm holding and hopeful, but I'm still concerned.

Yes he was and that's concerning. Logically, his production figured to take a nice pop with Palmer back and the opposite occurred. I'm unsure whether it's the diversity of the weapons available in the passing attack or other variables, but, despite the strong skill set, you have to be concerned that Floyd may never emerge into the player he should be.

 

[Shutout]

The team was a bit of a train wreck at times last year. I don't put that on Floyd.

 

[TheFanatic]

The team was a bit of a train wreck at times last year. I don't put that on Floyd.

I'm a Floyd owner and that's the way I see it. I wasn't counting on him to start, but let him ride the pine until he could get this thing figured out. Still not counting on him in 2 different dynasty leagues. Hopefully a healthy Palmer, another offseason with Fitz, will turn him into 1200 and 10 this year...

 

[cstu]

Cardinals accepting trade offers.

 

[Faust]

Are Cardinals listening to offers on Michael Floyd?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000489890/article/are-cardinals-listening-to-offers-on-michael-floyd

 

[Madden Curse]

Are Cardinals listening to offers on Michael Floyd?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000489890/article/are-cardinals-listening-to-offers-on-michael-floyd

I like Floyd better with Arians than with most other coaches, even as the current WR2. But I am not sure whether this means he has actually, officially been bumped to their WR3 after Brown.

 

[cstu]

How low is his value?

I offered Floyd for the 2.7...

It was rejected and the owner drafted Ajayi.

 

[One More Rep]

How low is his value?

I offered Floyd for the 2.7...

It was rejected and the owner drafted Ajayi.

Interesting. I would gladly take Floyd for the 2.7

 

[burnall]

i would also take the risk on floyed over 2.7 more talent, higher chance to acctually see my starting lineup.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

How low is his value?

I offered Floyd for the 2.7...

It was rejected and the owner drafted Ajayi.

Lucky they rejected the offer. Even after last season, Floyd is easily worth more than 2.7... at least to me.

 

[cstu]

How low is his value?

I offered Floyd for the 2.7...

It was rejected and the owner drafted Ajayi.

Lucky they rejected the offer. Even after last season, Floyd is easily worth more than 2.7... at least to me.

I thought it was extremely generous (have a lot of top WR's) but wanted someone there. He later offered the 2.12 for Floyd which kind of ticked me off.

 

[Eminence]

I'm over him.

 

[jeaton6]

Guy just paid 2016 1 and 2016 2 and 3.3. People still value him as a 4th or 5th round startup pick..

 

[JamesTheScot]

My biggest problem with this guy is that I don't see the drive to WANT to be great. He seems to readily accept mediocre performances. I hate guys like that.

Fitzgerald called him out on his lack of effort when they started practicing together.

Not surprising.

Are you guys talking about his first year? I haven't heard anything about a lack of effort since then.

As far as the want to be great, I don't know what anyone has seen that warrants that kind of criticism. I suspect the thing that kept him from breaking 1000 yards last year is the same thing that kept any player not named Ellington from breaking 1000 yards last season.

He led the team in TD's and in receiving yardage and in yards per reception.

And he came in a near third in terms of targets despite being the deep threat in that offense. He had 99 targets to Fitz's 103 and Brown's 102. Had Fitz not missed two games, I suspect that he might be second.

I think some of this is remembering Palmer not from his Arizona days but his Cincy days. If you look at Palmer last year, his yards per completion was 11.5, that was worse than both Stanton and Lindley. Palmer didn't play bad, per se, but I suspect he played more conservative than we remember him playing. And with as good as the Cardinal D was last year, it would make sense that he favored more high % short to mid-range throws than risky shots down field. I haven't gone to check the numbers but that's kinda my impression.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Cardinals coach Bruce Arians has been impressed with Michael Floyd's conditioning in OTAs.

The Cardinals are beginning the process of building Floyd back up after word leaked he was available via trade. Standing in at 6-foot-3, Floyd shed some weight before his rookie year, but his conditioning has never been known to be an issue. Floyd knows 2015 is a critical year for his career. A motivated offseason would serve all parties well.

Source: Darren Urban on Twitter
May 19 - 1:50 PM

 

[Dragon1952]

Floyd made great strides in year 2 from year 1. He went from 45 catches out of 86 targets for 562 yds and 2 TD's to 66 catches on 113 targets for 1054 yds and 5 TD's. You can throw out year 3 IMO. I have to believe he would have progressed even further if not for the QB issues. Yeah he didn't do any better with Palmer last year but for one, you don't know how healthy Palmer actually was when he came back, and two they couldn't have had the quality practice time they would have realized had Palmer been healthy from the get go. I just took a chance and traded Jarvis Landry straight up for Floyd because I not only think Landry may regress stat-wise, but if Floyd is going to break out it's likely to be this year.

 

[Our Gang]

39/688/4 are his stats of you throw out his last game. Not saying that he's not underrated, but that is a warning sign to me. He caught 1 pass 3x and 2 passes 3x.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Michael Floyd - WR - Cardinals

Cardinals coach Bruce Arians said Sunday that fourth-year WR Michael Floyd needs to be "just more consistent."

"He should be a big-time player," Arians said. "He needs to be a big-time player in big games. Those 50-50 balls, start coming down with them." Floyd was utilized as a low-volume vertical streaker last season, leading to frustrating fantasy weeks. While Floyd figures to take a step forward with his efficiency, he seems unlikely to become a 70-catch player in Arians' offense.

Source: Mike Jurecki on Twitter

Aug 2 - 11:52 AM

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Updating a previous item, Michael Floyd is only expected to miss around a month following Wednesday's left-hand injury.

A source told the Arizona Republic Floyd escaped with "dislocated fingers" as opposed to fractures. The originally-reported timeline was six weeks, which almost certainly would've sidelined Floyd into the season. Floyd may now be ready for Week 1, though he's still going to miss all of training camp and the preseason while Carson Palmer builds trust with John "Smokey" Brown.

Source: Kent Somers on Twitter