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Is Mike Alstott a HOF candidate? (1 Viewer)
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Sweet Love
IBL Representative
I was wondering who was the last FB (and not necessarily last one voted in, but last one to play) voted into the HOF. I think he should be in due to the fact there has not been a FB with his skillset in the last 20 years that I know of. Now, could he block like Lorenzo Neal, of course not (he is a guy that should get in when you look at his track record), but no pure FB ran the ball like Alstott since I have been an active fan.The real question is how will he be viewed by the voters? Is he a RB in FB's clothing?? If that is how he is viewed, he does not have a prayer. But if he is viewed as a true FB, there is a chance that in the NEXT 20 years, no FB puts up his type of numbers...and then, I can't see how you keep someone like that out of the HOF. He has a ring too which plays into voters minds and was part of the crew that put that franchise on the map.ETA: I voted he will not get in, because I am not sure how he will be viewed by the voting population, although now that I think about it, he was pretty media friendly and that does not hurt, so who knows.
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Fighting flu and groggy, I really think there's a major oversight here but can't think of who. Probably JWB will name someone and we'll think "oh yeah"
Sweet Love
IBL Representative
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
This.
bentley
Footballguy
Agreed. Guy was a slow tailback that scored a lot of short TDs.
gianmarco
Footballguy
I saw Jim Brown, but listing Brown as a FB is ridiculous. I think we can all agree on that.
I think casual fans will vote for a scoring FB over a blocking FB every chance they get so...not sure how much the pro bowl merits consideration in this comparison
there ya go GM-good call Chase.Also Chase, an old time Miami FB maybe?
gianmarco
Footballguy
I already saw Jim Brown as I said but had dismissed him, again, because he was clearly a RB and not a FB. Technically speaking, yes, but that's just not accurate IMO.As for Csonka, he had 5 Pro Bowls and 2 All-Pros. The thing about Alstott is that while he ran more than most traditional FB's, he definitely did more blocking and traditional FB jobs than what any normal RB is expected to do. He really was a true hybrid. Are there not others like him because there's no need or because not many can function as both and be as successful as he was. That's what makes him so unique to me.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
He doesn't even make the Hall of Very Good.
Tau837
Footballguy
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Sorry for the delay.
Sorry for the delay.
CalBear
Footballguy
Larry Csonka was top-5 in rushing yards 4 time. Alstott never sniffed the top 5 in rushing yardage or combined yardage in any season. Csonka is #37 all-time in rushing yardage; Alstott is not in the top 100. If they're comparable players, they're only comparable in a sentence such as "Larry Csonka sure was a better running back than Mike Alstott, don't you think?"
Footballhead
WWPRD?
A big NO !
Adebisi
Footballguy
obxlegends
Footballguy
I'll cure cancer before Mike Alstott makes the NFL Hall of Fame.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
In an age where fullbacks where more or less completely ignored as ball carriers, he was only mostly ignored. Because of this he has some numbers compared to his contemporaries. He then became Chris Berman's obsession. That doesn't make him a HOF. Were i a G.M. I would much rather have Neal or William Henderson from his contemporaries, and that is giving the matter only minimal thought.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Not much to add in this thread that Chase and JWB haven't already covered. Alstott was a fish out of water, which is why he got those PB and AP nods. How many times did you wince when you saw Alstott's name on the Pro Bowl roster and think, "really?" It was simply a case of name recognition at a position with very little love in the box score.
He was a good player in that he offered value to the Bucs and did quite a few things well enough. But, to my mind, he's not even in the conversation for induction into the Pro Football HOF.
He was a good player in that he offered value to the Bucs and did quite a few things well enough. But, to my mind, he's not even in the conversation for induction into the Pro Football HOF.
identikit
Footballguy
Go Alstott!!!ETA I'm a 'pro-cure' kind of guy...
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Why? Brown teamed with future HOFer Bobby Mitchell in the early 60s who was the flash to his power. Brown was a FB, but a HB. But FBs are RBs.
dagogrease
Footballguy
I believe Franco Harris is also listed as a fullback where Rocky Bleier was the "tailback".
Tau837
Footballguy
Just to be clear, the 6 players I identified in my post are the only 6 modern era players identified on the Pro Football HOF site as FBs; there are actually 3 other FBs in the HOF who played in the pre-modern era (Hinkle, Nagurski, and Nevers). Harris is listed as a RB.
Man In The Box
Footballguy
Oh Christ. Please stop.CanadianNFLJunkie
Footballguy
Heck if Ray Guy can't make it in and he clearly was the best ever at his position, then why would a player like Alstott sneak in? NO WAY would or should he get in the HOF.
Tau837
Footballguy
Ray Guy is not clearly the best ever at his position. This has been discussed numerous times in the Shark Pool. However, you are correct about Alstott.
Please stop the madness. The fact that Mike Alstott gets mentioned in the same conversation as Jim Brown should be a huge friggin red flag. Seriously, do you want to see Alstott standing on a stage next to Jim Brown wearing funny jackets? I might throw up. He was a pretty good touchdown vulture and nothing else. And even at that he couldn't carry Jerome Bettis's jock, and the only HoF Bettis is gettin in is the Bolwing HoF (which is oddly true).
