Isn't it weird to donate for sick animals when we have sick kids? (1 Viewer)

[Otis]

So are Otis and I the only people that value human life over animals? The rest of you seem to be missing this point.

well, it's a lot easier to save the life of a dog than a child.

some of us rescue pets before they are euthanized, but not many are out there looking to adopt a kid who was orphaned or is living on the street homeless.

Exactly. That's pretty weird, isn't it?

How many sick orphans have you adopted?

As many as orphan dogs and dolphins I've taken in.

Exactly. At least the people who take in animals are helping something. You're not even doing that.

I'm shouldering the economy on my back, chubb. I'm the economic engine. Shut up and drive.

 

[Christo]

Its never going to get old responding to one of Otis's many home improvement threads that he should be spending that money on sick children instead.

But Otis shouldn't have to look at his neighbors.

 

[Otis]

Its never going to get old responding to one of Otis's many home improvement threads that he should be spending that money on sick children instead.

I just rented the new Transformers movie for 5.99 on demand. Marky Mark is in this? Whoah.

 

[Christo]

Or carry an extra key.

 

[jhib]

Time to shut down all the non-sick kid charities. Once we get the sick kid thing knocked out, we can move onto other things.

This doesn't strike me as all that ridiculous.

Assume every single donation to any charity gets diverted to children's illnesses until they are figured out and taken care of. How long do you think it takes for any other charity to get a dime?

Do you really think it would happen in your lifetime?

 

[NutterButter]

Its never going to get old responding to one of Otis's many home improvement threads that he should be spending that money on sick children instead.

I just rented the new Transformers movie for 5.99 on demand. Marky Mark is in this? Whoah.

sinner

 

[Otis]

Holy god they find the hottest chicks for these Transformers movies.

 

[NutterButter]

Its never going to get old responding to one of Otis's many home improvement threads that he should be spending that money on sick children instead.

But Otis shouldn't have to look at his neighbors.

They probably have sick children. Who wants to see that.

 

[Christo]

So are Otis and I the only people that value human life over animals? The rest of you seem to be missing this point.

well, it's a lot easier to save the life of a dog than a child.

some of us rescue pets before they are euthanized, but not many are out there looking to adopt a kid who was orphaned or is living on the street homeless.

Exactly. That's pretty weird, isn't it?

How many sick orphans have you adopted?

As many as orphan dogs and dolphins I've taken in.

Exactly. At least the people who take in animals are helping something. You're not even doing that.

I'm shouldering the economy on my back, chubb. I'm the economic engine. Shut up and drive.

I'm a lawyer and make a lot of money too. But in my practice I actually help people who need it rather than . . . what is it you do? Intellectual property?

 

[Otis]

So are Otis and I the only people that value human life over animals? The rest of you seem to be missing this point.

well, it's a lot easier to save the life of a dog than a child.

some of us rescue pets before they are euthanized, but not many are out there looking to adopt a kid who was orphaned or is living on the street homeless.

Exactly. That's pretty weird, isn't it?

How many sick orphans have you adopted?

As many as orphan dogs and dolphins I've taken in.

Exactly. At least the people who take in animals are helping something. You're not even doing that.

I'm shouldering the economy on my back, chubb. I'm the economic engine. Shut up and drive.

I'm a lawyer and make a lot of money too. But in my practice I actually help people who need it rather than . . . what is it you do? Intellectual property?

I toil. I churn. I generate.

I said drive.

 

[jamny]

Holy god they find the hottest chicks for these Transformers movies.

You could have fed a child for a month for the cost of that rental.

Shame!

 

[Otis]

Holy god Marky Mark's cihck in this movie is hot.

WTF this is supposed to be his daughter?

Whatever, she's smoking.

 

[Christo]

And I have fish.

 

[Christo]

So are Otis and I the only people that value human life over animals? The rest of you seem to be missing this point.

well, it's a lot easier to save the life of a dog than a child.

some of us rescue pets before they are euthanized, but not many are out there looking to adopt a kid who was orphaned or is living on the street homeless.

Exactly. That's pretty weird, isn't it?

How many sick orphans have you adopted?

As many as orphan dogs and dolphins I've taken in.

Exactly. At least the people who take in animals are helping something. You're not even doing that.

I'm shouldering the economy on my back, chubb. I'm the economic engine. Shut up and drive.

I'm a lawyer and make a lot of money too. But in my practice I actually help people who need it rather than . . . what is it you do? Intellectual property?

I toil. I churn. I generate.

I said drive.

Rich men's lackey.

 

[Otis]

Holy god she's hot.

 

[Otis]

Christo: don't turn on transformers. She's skinny and hot and is probably cleanly shaved.

Just saved you $5.99.

Go feed a cat imo?

 

[Christo]

Christo: don't turn on transformers. She's skinny and hot and is probably cleanly shaved.

Just saved you $5.99.

Go feed a cat imo?

http://38.media.tumblr.com/3d0aa6282a5d3a5d4b73361033245609/tumblr_mq5qnytz1j1rx4ivwo1_r1_400.gif

 

[Otis]

This chick is totally hotter than Megan Fox.

 

[Willie Neslon]

At supper tonight I asked my wife why do people give money to animal charities when they could be donating to charities for people instead? My wife thought for a second and said it is because humans are the only species that have the capability of giving to living things that are not like them. That is the definition of charity. She also said dogs help humans without being prompted so it is natural to do the same. I must admit not a bad answer.

 

[Willie Neslon]

After thinking about it again my answer is if we don't help the animals out, who will?

 

[jamny]

After thinking about it again my answer is if we don't help the animals out, who will?

Of course.

Unfortunately some people are too heartless to realize that.

 

[cstu]

At supper tonight I asked my wife why do people give money to animal charities when they could be donating to charities for people instead? My wife thought for a second and said it is because humans are the only species that have the capability of giving to living things that are not like them. That is the definition of charity. She also said dogs help humans without being prompted so it is natural to do the same. I must admit not a bad answer.

If it wasn't for humans training them they'd still be wolves trying to kill us.

 

[cstu]

I'd be curious for the pet nerds to rank animals in terms of importance.

I figure it goes something like this at the start, right?

1. dogs

2. cats

Here's where it gets weird though. Even though these animals aren't all THAT different from the rest of the animals in the world, because of recent history and custom, you folks put them on a pedestal. Fine. What do we do with the following?

whales

fish

cows

tigers

chickens

parakeets

parrots

turtles

hamsters

gerbils

mice

rats

butterflies

snails

worms

ants

spiders

monkeys

rhinoceros

elephants

tigers

lions

buffalo

I wonder how many of these you'd value over human strangers or other kids' children. "Duh, just dogs, because I read Ol' Yeller when I was 12 and man was I even more dumb and impressionable tahan than I am now."

Sometimes the truth just hurts.

Yes, yes it does. This thread is a testament to that.

 

[3C's]

Just pondering this as I saw one of those ASPCA commercials or whatever that talk about starving dogs and cats in shelters. Is it a little weird that we donate so much in the way of resources as a society to these animals, particularly when those resources could instead be focused on a more important class -- i.e., people? And while it's sad for older people to get sick and pass on, if I get sick and die in my forties, it will stink, but I would say I've lived a great and full life and it would hardly be tragic. But sick children are the class of need that to me hit the hardest and most powerfully. How the heck are people donating their time and money to fido when there are illnesses that kill children?

Let's debate.* I'll hang up and listen.

*The pit bull nerds don't have to express their view here, given that they promote the spread of a vicious and dangerous breed of animal that regularly attacks, maims, and kills children, so I think we know where they stand on this issue.

I'm with you, Otis. I love dogs, cats, etc., and about the only living thing I'll kill are plants (food, weeds), rodents and insects. That said, people >>>>>>> pets.

Others are correct in saying it doesn't need to be one or the other! But I personally have never understood how people will place themselves at the brink (financially), just so they can have ___ animals running around their house/property. It's almost like a certain part of people's brains don't fire. People just scraping by, barely paying their monthly bills, yet spending a few grand/year (if they're lucky, and their pets don't need lots of attention from a vet) on cats, dogs, fish, birds, etc. Even worse, keeping animals that can kill people (i.e. poisonous snakes).

I had a neighbor like that. Had two dogs, a cat, some fish, et al. Their garage is falling down. Their house needed paint ten years ago. Their furnace needed replacing. But "they couldn't afford it." Meanwhile, they were spending thousands on pet food, vet visits, etc. One of their dogs bit my wife (in OUR yard, lovely), so they had to shell-out hundreds to cover the doctor's visit, then had to put their dog down to get tested for rabies...since they couldn't afford to give it it's shots. Then that Winter, one of their children died of carbon monoxide poisoning in their basement. Due to? A faulty furnace. But hey, they've still got their other dogs, cat, fish, etc. Still have a garage that is falling down. Still have a house that desperately needs paint.

Rather than donating to ASPCA, I wish I could donate to a group that would research how to turn certain sections of people's brains on...to prevent needless suffering, injury and death going forward. Maybe then people could also form a foundation to help people like me learn a bit more compassion/empathy. But seriously, some people are just absolute morons when it comes to this stuff. Hearts the size of Texas...which is good/admirable! But it becomes a negative when they're creating needless, avoidable suffering for themselves, their family, their NEIGHBORS, et al.

my link

 

[Cliff Clavin]

So are Otis and I the only people that value human life over animals? The rest of you seem to be missing this point.

Pretty sure the point of the thread was Otis trying to tell people where they should spend their money. You know the guy who drops thousands on completly useless crap but looks down on people for donating to help out animals.

The point of the thread was to ask the question of why we are donating money to cats when we could donate money to human children. Why is this so hard for you? Setting aside the fact that you're being purposefully obtuse to try and score points on me in an internet messageboard.

I'm not. If a person had only $100 to donate and decided they wanted to give that to a sick cat instead of a kid, You may have a point that it is a little weird. But saying any donation to help animals is weird is just flat out wrong.

You don't seem to have a problem spending thousands on shrubs instead of helping sick kids. Why should it be weird if someone spends thousands helping animals?

 

[Mister Martie]

Time to shut down all the non-sick kid charities. Once we get the sick kid thing knocked out, we can move onto other things.

This doesn't strike me as all that ridiculous.

I know it doesn't.

 

[bigbottom]

The mission of the Chance for Hope Foundation is to provide support services for children with cancer and their families, funding for pediatric cancer research and treatment, and educational resources to the general public regarding pediatric cancer.

We launch in November. Hope we can count on your support, O!

 

[Otis]

The mission of the Chance for Hope Foundation is to provide support services for children with cancer and their families, funding for pediatric cancer research and treatment, and educational resources to the general public regarding pediatric cancer.

We launch in November. Hope we can count on your support, O!

You know you can, brother.

 

[Otis]

So are Otis and I the only people that value human life over animals? The rest of you seem to be missing this point.

Pretty sure the point of the thread was Otis trying to tell people where they should spend their money. You know the guy who drops thousands on completly useless crap but looks down on people for donating to help out animals.

The point of the thread was to ask the question of why we are donating money to cats when we could donate money to human children. Why is this so hard for you? Setting aside the fact that you're being purposefully obtuse to try and score points on me in an internet messageboard.

I'm not. If a person had only $100 to donate and decided they wanted to give that to a sick cat instead of a kid, You may have a point that it is a little weird.

That's the only question I was raising. Don't be mad, catguy. It's nothing personal.

 

[tom22406]

Now we have donation police?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

So are Otis and I the only people that value human life over animals? The rest of you seem to be missing this point.

Pretty sure the point of the thread was Otis trying to tell people where they should spend their money. You know the guy who drops thousands on completly useless crap but looks down on people for donating to help out animals.

The point of the thread was to ask the question of why we are donating money to cats when we could donate money to human children. Why is this so hard for you? Setting aside the fact that you're being purposefully obtuse to try and score points on me in an internet messageboard.

I'm not. If a person had only $100 to donate and decided they wanted to give that to a sick cat instead of a kid, You may have a point that it is a little weird.

That's the only question I was raising. Don't be mad, catguy. It's nothing personal.

How about answering the question you decided not to quote?

Do you find it weird that you're wasting money on shrubs instead of giving it to sick kids?

 

[Gene Sackman]

Love animals, but people always come first.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Do you find it weird that you're wasting money on shrubs instead of giving it to sick kids?

Not sticking up for Otis, but this is a really stupid tact to take. He's taking about how people DONATE their money. You are talking about never doing anything with your money other than giving it to charity. It's really just a snarky way of avoiding the question.

 

[Freelove]

So are Otis and I the only people that value human life over animals? The rest of you seem to be missing this point.

Pretty sure the point of the thread was Otis trying to tell people where they should spend their money. You know the guy who drops thousands on completly useless crap but looks down on people for donating to help out animals.

The point of the thread was to ask the question of why we are donating money to cats when we could donate money to human children. Why is this so hard for you? Setting aside the fact that you're being purposefully obtuse to try and score points on me in an internet messageboard.

I'm not. If a person had only $100 to donate and decided they wanted to give that to a sick cat instead of a kid, You may have a point that it is a little weird.

That's the only question I was raising. Don't be mad, catguy. It's nothing personal.

How about answering the question you decided not to quote?

Do you find it weird that you're wasting money on shrubs instead of giving it to sick kids?

Speaks directly to the point the OP requested we discuss.

I.e.: "How the heck are people donating their time and money to fido when there are illnesses that kill children?"

And the answer is because small individual donations do a great deal to help the problems that plague tragedy-stricken animals. But these same donations do little to nothing to solve the problems leading directly to the illnesses that kill children. Those are, primarily, pneumonia, diarrhea, and malaria, all of which are directly attributable to inequitable resource allocation. Those problems demand wholesale changes in the culture of individual families residing in unnecessarily posh and resource-intensive suburban enclaves.

You want to fix that problem? I didn't think so.

If you're sincere in this crusade, first work on fixing yourself, your family, and the system that put you in a position to get way more than your own share of the resources relative to the sick children you care so much about. Then worry about the people donating a hundred bucks here and there to save an animal's life. Because your own life is doing far, far, far more to cause and perpetuate sickness among children around the globe than most of the animal lovers' lives are.

 

[Freelove]

So are Otis and I the only people that value human life over animals? The rest of you seem to be missing this point.

Pretty sure the point of the thread was Otis trying to tell people where they should spend their money. You know the guy who drops thousands on completly useless crap but looks down on people for donating to help out animals.

The point of the thread was to ask the question of why we are donating money to cats when we could donate money to human children. Why is this so hard for you? Setting aside the fact that you're being purposefully obtuse to try and score points on me in an internet messageboard.

I'm not. If a person had only $100 to donate and decided they wanted to give that to a sick cat instead of a kid, You may have a point that it is a little weird.

That's the only question I was raising. Don't be mad, catguy. It's nothing personal.

It's not personal that we're calling you out for your ignorance and hypocrisy, either, child killer.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Do you find it weird that you're wasting money on shrubs instead of giving it to sick kids?

Not sticking up for Otis, but this is a really stupid tact to take. He's taking about how people DONATE their money. You are talking about never doing anything with your money other than giving it to charity. It's really just a snarky way of avoiding the question.

I'm calling out the hypocrisy of Otis who boasts about the money he spends on useless #### then tries to shame people who give money to a cause he doesn't agree with. It's pathetic.

 

[Otis]

Love animals, but people always come first.

Really all I was trying to get at. Thanks for making sense.

 

[Otis]

Do you find it weird that you're wasting money on shrubs instead of giving it to sick kids?

Not sticking up for Otis, but this is a really stupid tact to take. He's taking about how people DONATE their money. You are talking about never doing anything with your money other than giving it to charity. It's really just a snarky way of avoiding the question.

I'm calling out the hypocrisy of Otis who boasts about the money he spends on useless #### then tries to shame people who give money to a cause he doesn't agree with. It's pathetic.

Lol at "boast."

 

[Christo]

Do you find it weird that you're wasting money on shrubs instead of giving it to sick kids?

Not sticking up for Otis, but this is a really stupid tact to take. He's taking about how people DONATE their money. You are talking about never doing anything with your money other than giving it to charity. It's really just a snarky way of avoiding the question.

 

[Otis]

So are Otis and I the only people that value human life over animals? The rest of you seem to be missing this point.

Pretty sure the point of the thread was Otis trying to tell people where they should spend their money. You know the guy who drops thousands on completly useless crap but looks down on people for donating to help out animals.

The point of the thread was to ask the question of why we are donating money to cats when we could donate money to human children. Why is this so hard for you? Setting aside the fact that you're being purposefully obtuse to try and score points on me in an internet messageboard.

I'm not. If a person had only $100 to donate and decided they wanted to give that to a sick cat instead of a kid, You may have a point that it is a little weird.

That's the only question I was raising. Don't be mad, catguy. It's nothing personal.

How about answering the question you decided not to quote?Do you find it weird that you're wasting money on shrubs instead of giving it to sick kids?

Speaks directly to the point the OP requested we discuss. I.e.: "How the heck are people donating their time and money to fido when there are illnesses that kill children?"

And the answer is because small individual donations do a great deal to help the problems that plague tragedy-stricken animals. But these same donations do little to nothing to solve the problems leading directly to the illnesses that kill children. Those are, primarily, pneumonia, diarrhea, and malaria, all of which are directly attributable to inequitable resource allocation. Those problems demand wholesale changes in the culture of individual families residing in unnecessarily posh and resource-intensive suburban enclaves.

You want to fix that problem? I didn't think so.

If you're sincere in this crusade, first work on fixing yourself, your family, and the system that put you in a position to get way more than your own share of the resources relative to the sick children you care so much about. Then worry about the people donating a hundred bucks here and there to save an animal's life. Because your own life is doing far, far, far more to cause and perpetuate sickness among children around the globe than most of the animal lovers' lives are.

"Crusade"? I asked a question on a fantasy football messageboard.

 

[Otis]

Do you find it weird that you're wasting money on shrubs instead of giving it to sick kids?

Not sticking up for Otis, but this is a really stupid tact to take. He's taking about how people DONATE their money. You are talking about never doing anything with your money other than giving it to charity. It's really just a snarky way of avoiding the question.

This. Some weird reactions in here.

 

[Christo]

Do you find it weird that you're wasting money on shrubs instead of giving it to sick kids?

Not sticking up for Otis, but this is a really stupid tact to take. He's taking about how people DONATE their money. You are talking about never doing anything with your money other than giving it to charity. It's really just a snarky way of avoiding the question.

This. Some weird reactions in here.

 

[3C's]

Stupid animals always taking away from kids. <_<

 

[Fennis]

I would definitely save my dog over a drowning otis.

 

[TxBuckeye]

I'm calling out the hypocrisy of Otis who boasts about the money he spends on useless #### then tries to shame people who give money to a cause he doesn't agree with. It's pathetic.

Yep, get that. And this post was about 100x better at making the point. Should have just said it this way to begin with! Much more effective.

 

[Otis]

"There goes Otis again, boasting about those shrubs he's gonna buy."

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

What about midget charities? They ok?

 

[tjnc09]

Isn't it weird forums usually have flood control to prevent too many searches, but not any preventive measures on creating new threads?

 

[Stinger Ray]

"There goes Otis again, boasting about those shrubs he's gonna buy."

Don't be so angry, shrub boy.

 

[NutterButter]

"There goes Otis again, boasting about those shrubs he's gonna buy."

Weirdo